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How is the nexus 5X on Verizon? I'm coming from the HTC One M8, and I've never had an unlocked phone before. Since the M8 has a nano sim i've heard that you can just pop it in the 5X and be up and running.
I've found no issue with my 5X on Verizon. I was previously using a 2013 Moto X so I simply removed the nano SIM from my Moto X and popped it into my 5X. It connected right up to Verizon's network and I was able to make/receive calls and use the Internet as expected. I've not attempted to setup HD Voice or simultaneous voice/data - but it's currently doing everything my Moto X was doing before the SIM swap.
Came from an S6, and I've had no issues so far. Just popped my nano sim in and I was up and running. There's an option under Cellular Network Settings called Enhanced 4G LTE Mode, which activates VoLTE and it works great. Only thing I've noticed is that it looks like VZW is blocking the latest OTA's...they can easily be sideloaded, but it's still annoying.
Mine works perfectly, in fact data has been more consistent than my old phone I bought that was locked to verizon. I did have to get a new sim card but I got it set up and it hasn't had any problems whatsoever.
I was trying 5x and moto x pure (2015) side by side and moto x reported better signal consistently. I even RMAed the 5x thinking there was a hardware issue, but the second unit had similar signal strength.
The moto x was on lollipop so there could have been a difference in the reporting of signal ? (Not sure) But the 5x did however drop to 3g more often than the moto x, but the 5x quickly regained lte.
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Thanks for the feedback everyone! My 5X should arrive in a few days, can't wait lol
So Verizon is no longer blocking any phone that has an ESN that isn't in their system already?
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I'm on my 3rd device now on vzw. My problem has been 100% software however. The phone has struggled and failed to receive mms (primarily group messaging) on both previous devices. On the device I got today I didn't insert my sim until the device was set up and the device had an OTA waiting. I installed the software update and viola, no more mms problems. It is worth noting that my previous device was on an older build and reported no updates so I would recommend setting up on WiFi before popping the sim in
Ok so I have never owned a Nexus device but am seriously thinking about replacing my Moto X 2014 with a 5X. This may be a dumb question but does buying the 5X for use on Verizon result in any of the crappy lockdowns/restrictions/bloatware from Verizon ending up on the phone? I ask because even though I bought my MX14 (not an upgrade) directly from Moto it still ended up with vzw bloatware, no tethering, no updates etc. due to it being a Verizon device. Are the Nexus phones "immune" to this? After the Verizon/Moto flap over not updating the MX14 I am looking for a phone that will get updates and bug fixes in a timely manner not whenever Verizon feels like it.
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Ok so I have never owned a Nexus device but am seriously thinking about replacing my Moto X 2014 with a 5X. This may be a dumb question but does buying the 5X for use on Verizon result in any of the crappy lockdowns/restrictions/bloatware from Verizon ending up on the phone? I ask because even though I bought my MX14 (not an upgrade) directly from Moto it still ended up with vzw bloatware, no tethering, no updates etc. due to it being a Verizon device. Are the Nexus phones "immune" to this? After the Verizon/Moto flap over not updating the MX14 I am looking for a phone that will get updates and bug fixes in a timely manner not whenever Verizon feels like it.
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I don't know that I would say it is "immune"; but I initially used my 5X on Verizon, and I do not recall any of the Verizon-related apps being installed on my 5X.
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Ok so I have never owned a Nexus device but am seriously thinking about replacing my Moto X 2014 with a 5X. This may be a dumb question but does buying the 5X for use on Verizon result in any of the crappy lockdowns/restrictions/bloatware from Verizon ending up on the phone? I ask because even though I bought my MX14 (not an upgrade) directly from Moto it still ended up with vzw bloatware, no tethering, no updates etc. due to it being a Verizon device. Are the Nexus phones "immune" to this? After the Verizon/Moto flap over not updating the MX14 I am looking for a phone that will get updates and bug fixes in a timely manner not whenever Verizon feels like it.
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I just received my N5X yesterday and activated it on Verizon. Since it is the exact same phone that is used for all carriers, there is not a single app related to Verizon pre-installed on this thing.
I turned it on and got an update prompt as soon as I got to the home screen, but I wanted to manually flash the latest release anyways so I didn't bother to see what version it was trying to upgrade me to.
With the Nexus devices, Google will release the updates publicly, so I would recommend learning how to apply them yourself rather than waiting for an OTA on the phone.
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I just received my N5X yesterday and activated it on Verizon. Since it is the exact same phone that is used for all carriers, there is not a single app related to Verizon pre-installed on this thing.
I turned it on and got an update prompt as soon as I got to the home screen, but I wanted to manually flash the latest release anyways so I didn't bother to see what version it was trying to upgrade me to.
With the Nexus devices, Google will release the updates publicly, so I would recommend learning how to apply them yourself rather than waiting for an OTA on the phone.
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Not taking OTA updates is an interesting thought. That would not have occurred to me. Do the OTA's come from Google or VZW?
JoeHockey said:
Not taking OTA updates is an interesting thought. That would not have occurred to me. Do the OTA's come from Google or VZW?
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The OTAs would come from Google. Verizon is very hands-off on this device (they don't even have a thumbnail image for it under your account page on their website).
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This may be a dumb question but does buying the 5X for use on Verizon result in any of the crappy lockdowns/restrictions/bloatware from Verizon ending up on the phone? I ask because even though I bought my MX14 (not an upgrade) directly from Moto it still ended up with vzw bloatware, no tethering, no updates etc. due to it being a Verizon device. Are the Nexus phones "immune" to this?
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You'd order the 5X from Google (or whoever) and it will be the general U.S. device -- same one you would use on AT&T, etc. All you need to do is put a VZW nano sim w/ NFC in it (either a preexisting one you have, or a corporate store will give you one for free if you are a current customer). So, there will be no pre-installed VZW bloat. The only thing I would be careful of is the Play Store -- it will have a record of all prior apps installed, some of which (unless your remove them from your account history) will be VZW bloat. I would be careful to set up your phone as a new device during initial set up and also be careful about what you allow the Play Store to do automatically. Presumably if it did install bloat from your account history you could just uninstall but why risk it.
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Not taking OTA updates is an interesting thought. That would not have occurred to me. Do the OTA's come from Google or VZW?
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They come from Google. Carriers have a limited ability to delay Android version updates but not security updates. Google's official policy statement is here (scroll down to "Timing for software updates" | "Nexus devices"). For what it is worth, I am on VZW and I received the March update over-the-air on the first or second day it was available. You can always sideload via stock recovery in any event -- you don't need to be rooted or unlock your bootloader, but you do need a USB A-to-C cable (unless your computer has a USB C port).
No doubt I am guilty of resurrecting an old thread but this is the question I have. The N5X has a few different model numbers and I need to make sure I buy one that works on Verizon, or a Verizon MVNO. The inclusive list is: H790 (TD-LTE), H791 (TD-LTE), H791F (LTE-A), and the H798 (TD-LTE). The 790 & 798 feature CDMA bands so I suspect it is these...
People selling these have no clue...
Can anyone help me answer this question?
So I got my phone yesterday and it did some updating while I was setting it up and noticed that the latest firmware it installed was NDE63X not V. I bought this from Google not Verizon paid all the money up front so it is fully mine. I have Verizon service, did they just hijack my phone? I have Googled a bit on it and can't find an answer. This worries me since I avoided buying from Verizon so they had no say on updates. I have not gotten any of the Verizon apps automatically added toy phone yet. Thanks for any answer.
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If you have a Verizon SIM in the phone, it will get Verizon firmware images regardless of where you bought the phone.
I would recommend flashing the Google OTA's yourself when they release.
Don't worry. You got the verizon firmware because you have a verizon sim. The reverse is true for people who bought their phones from verizon and went to another carrier. Their phones updated to the US firmware automatically.
Verizon bootloaders cannot be unlocked. That is the only difference. Firmware versions are completely independent of this fact.
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So I got my phone yesterday and it did some updating while I was setting it up and noticed that the latest firmware it installed was NDE63X not V. I bought this from Google not Verizon paid all the money up front so it is fully mine. I have Verizon service, did they just hijack my phone? I have Googled a bit on it and can't find an answer. This worries me since I avoided buying from Verizon so they had no say on updates. I have not gotten any of the Verizon apps automatically added toy phone yet. Thanks for any answer.
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No. The software sees that you are using a Verizon sim and downloads the version that is optimized for Verizon networks.
Makes the radio work more efficiently with the bands Verizon uses and such things like that. Maybe downloads a set of unique Verizon apps you may want to use for your convenience. You can dismiss these apps or run some other firmware if you wish. It is not hijacking your phone and turning it into an evil, screwed up monster with a locked bootloader or rendering it unrootable.
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Thanks, just the info I needed. If I switched carriers or traveled internationally and switched sim cards would this cause the phone issues?
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ahent said:
Thanks, just the info I needed. If I switched carriers or traveled internationally and switched sim cards would this cause the phone issues?
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No.
Thanks again, I love XDA.
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You may get slightly better performance overseas or on another carrier with different firmware due to the slight differences in the radio, but it will function the same otherwise.
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If I have a Verizon version unlocked and take the Verizon firmware update is it possible for them to relock the bootloader? UPDATE - I looked on the forum and it seems like every agrees that it isn't possible for VZ to relock bootloader with firmware updates. Just want to confirm this is correct.
Bought a Pixel XL from Bestbuy. I unlocked the bootloader and disabled updates. Having second thoughts about keeping over the Google Store version. Since it's unlocked would you just keep it or flash stock, relock, and return and wait out google on my Note 3? I like flashing custom roms but don't want to have issues down the road with a bad flash and trying to fix a bootloop.
I do have a small scuff on the corner so I'm not sure if Bestbuy would even take it back.
Well, I bought mine from google store in hope for it to stay untouched from the corporate greedy hands of vzw, but unfortunately the first update I installed was vzw-exclusive update pushed to my google bought XL
On the other hand, fortunately, I already unlocked it before taking in the update, so for now I am safe. After doing a little research, it turns out that I am not the only one bought from google/fi and received vzw's 63X update.
So, pixel phones (whether bought from google/fi/bb/vzw) on vzw network is like your first used car(vzw exclusive update), you don't want it, but daddy's (vzw) gonna give it to you anyway! Therefore, personally I don't think it would be beneficial to return bb and buy from google since you gonna get the same updates anyway.
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Well, I bought mine from google store in hope for it to stay untouched from the corporate greedy hands of vzw, but unfortunately the first update I installed was vzw-exclusive update pushed to my google bought XL
On the other hand, fortunately, I already unlocked it before taking in the update, so for now I am safe. After doing a little research, it turns out that I am not the only one bought from google/fi and received vzw's 63X update.
So, pixel phones (whether bought from google/fi/bb/vzw) on vzw network is like your first used car(vzw exclusive update), you don't want it, but daddy's (vzw) gonna give it to you anyway! Therefore, personally I don't think it would be beneficial to return bb and buy from google since you gonna get the same updates anyway.
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If you put in Vzw sim you will get a Vzw version of the update. It's nothing sinister apparently. Just fine tunes your device to work more efficiently with the VZW network. Mostly the radios. Also you may get several VZW applications that you are free to remove or use. So chillax and enjoy. If you put in AT&T sim you will get the GSM version of the updates instead.
I bought the phone from Google directly, but I popped my Verizon sim in immediately when I got it.
When I update the phone is there any fear of getting Verizon updates that could lock the bootloader? Or how is it handled?
Hobox10 said:
I bought the phone from Google directly, but I popped my Verizon sim in immediately when I got it.
When I update the phone is there any fear of getting Verizon updates that could lock the bootloader? Or how is it handled?
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Bootloader locking is dependent on the IMEI not software installed.
which one you get from google, the vzw model or the other model?
The bootloader from the vzw version is almost indefinitely locked. Unless someone comes up with an unlock for it. Even the Verizon pixel 1 is still locked.
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No, Verizon cannot lock your Pixel 2 XL purchased from Google via the Play Store.
I've been checking it since yesterday. No luck so far
No for me I'm still on DP2 still nothing
My Pixel 2 XL isn't a Verizon one, but the Pixel 2 phones we just got in for work did get 8.1 today.
Still no OTA over dp2 here either... VZW
Can't the Verizon phone use the Google Ota. If so just download the Ota.zip and sideload adb and install it.
I'm on Verizon and still haven't received the update yet.
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Can't the Verizon phone use the Google Ota. If so just download the Ota.zip and sideload adb and install it.
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For various valid reasons, that's not always an option or a preference for some people.
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Can't the Verizon phone use the Google Ota. If so just download the Ota.zip and sideload adb and install it.
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I don't think so. I tried it and it kept failing. Looking at the list of OTAs there are separate 8.0 files for Verizon so I think we need to wait.
Just because they were separate one month, doesn't mean that will be the case the next month. The separate builds might come together into a unified build and then split again the month after.
In the case of the December build, there is one build for all carriers. Verizon's support page has the same build number listed as what's on the Google OTA page. https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/google-pixel-2-xl-update/
Yes and no
I have not, interestingly enough, my wife got it yesterday morning. We have the same exact phone, through Verizon, Pixel 2 XL 128GB. I even try to update manually (through System Update), but I keep getting the same response, "Your system is up to date, Android Version: 8.0.0, Security patch level: November 5, 2017"
Still waiting here. I get message that I'm up to date when using system update, patched to Nov 7th.
Verizon is my carrier, but I bought the non-Verizon 128GB
I'm on DP2 and got my 8.1 final last night. Unlocked from Google on Verizon.
Also, if you bought your phone from Verizon, you CAN sideload the OTA. There were people on here with Verizon bought phones that sideloaded the non-Verizon OTA for the November security update. Plus, some Verizon users have gotten the update. I'm *thinking* Google just released one version this time.
I received it yesterday late afternoon. 64GB version bought from Verizon.
Just got it this morning, beta program, Pixel 2 XL 128GB Verizon.
still nothing for me... unlocked google store version on vzw network
What are the noteworthy upgrades that come with 8.1?
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fixxxer0 said:
still nothing for me... unlocked google store version on vzw network
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Received update yesterday. I was running DP2, unlocked Google Store version on Vzw network.
I received mine last night.
64GB purchased from Verizon.
Haven't had a chance to test the Bluetooth issues I've been having with my Gear S3 Frontier and my vehicle to see if they have been resolved.
Noticed that once in a while my screen will flash white when I grab it while the Always On display is active(4 times in the past 24 hours). Didn't have that behavior with 8.0.
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I have not, interestingly enough, my wife got it yesterday morning. We have the same exact phone, through Verizon, Pixel 2 XL 128GB. I even try to update manually (through System Update), but I keep getting the same response, "Your system is up to date, Android Version: 8.0.0, Security patch level: November 5, 2017"
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Considering it's through Verizon I'm surprised your wife got it. Does Verizon now actually allow Google to be in control of the updates instead of Verizon having to approve it?
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Considering it's through Verizon I'm surprised your wife got it. Does Verizon now actually allow Google to be in control of the updates instead of Verizon having to approve it?
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You got me on that one...and I am still waiting on the update. Just to clarify, got them at Best Buy (each about a month apart), Verizon is my carrier. Then I come to read that some people had ordered the phones, through Verizon last week, received the phone on Monday, and got the update Wednesday...oh well.