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I've looked around and can't find my exact issue, so I'm hoping I can get some help if I make a new post!
I unlocked my bootloader through HTC, rooted my device, and then was trying to install Cyanogenmod 13 on it. I have TWRP 3.0.0-0 since the latest one didn't work. It kept giving me errors, and too late, I figured out it was because I still had Android 5.1 on it. I found this out however after I deleted everything except TWRP from the phone. Now that's the only folder that shows up if I plug it into my computer. I do have an SD card, and the files on there seem to be safe. I'm also using a Mac. I presume I need to reflash the stock OS on it, am I correct? If so, how?? I found the RUU file on HTC's website, but I'm not sure how to manually flash it onto the phone, and the files are all .exe, which of course don't run on Mac. I do have the free trial of Crossover, is that compatible?
EDIT: I'm on the AT&T US version if that matters.
I hope this all makes sense haha. Thanks for any help!
You can download cm13 and put it on your SD-Card and flash it from there in TWRP. Or you can use adb and Sideload to flash it. I dont see a reason why you have to go back to Stock before
The latest version of Twrp can flash Zip of Rom bigger as 2 Go but need a new script for the flash , so you have to use older version as 3.0.0. or below to flash rom' s zip with older script.
As Adromir write , no need to be back stock...
He any way needs Android 6 Firmware for CM13 to run properly. As he's on 5.1.1 Firmware, and - just guessing - S-ON, he hast to flash an RUU to Upgrade to Android 6 first.
Send by the swarm intelligence of my coffee machine ?.
Are there detailed instructions somewhere on how to manually flash the RUU file? Can I do it on a Mac with or without Crossover? I could use my spouse's PC, but I'd prefer not to. (I'm still a n00b at all this, haha.)
And yes, S-ON appears in the bootloader.
When I was trying to install CM13, I kept getting a "No MD5 file found", and I found an MD5 hash on the CM wiki, but I have no idea what to do with it.
I haven't updated my phone in around a year so I'm trying to update to either Android 5 or 6. Whenever I try to update the ROM to anything newer than 4, I get an error with the rom binaries. I read somewhere that this has to do with the Recovery being outdated which makes since as I'm on TWRP 2.8.0. However, I tried to update to TWRP 3.0.0 and then 2.8.4 and both times my phone got stuck in the Recovery boot process. I also read somewhere that this might be due to an outdated firmware. After more reading, I'm confused on how to update the firmware or what I should do to remedy these other problems. I tried to use RUU_M8_UL_K44_SENSE60_ATT_SECURITY_Cingular_US_1.58.502.1_Radio_1.16.21331931.LA11G_20.31A.4145.02L_release_368350_signed_2 to update my phone off of a guide I found, but it failed. Any help or suggestions would be really appreciated.
I have the ATT m8 and I'm running Android 4.4.4 with CyanogenMod 11-20150106-Nightly-m8 and TWRP 2.8.0. Heres the results from running adb getvar all on my phone
i.imgur.com/QPSAEAY.png
I noticed at some point my phone had radio invalid and basically every peripheral had stopped working; no reception, wifi, bluetooth, or camera. I tried oem lock command then to unlock it with the binary downloaded from htcdev. At that point everything besides the external sd card decided to become unmountable and now only the bootloader and TWRP works. Soooooo......... any help would be appreciated
edit: So I flashed stock recovery and did a factory reset This fixed this particular problem so my phone is at least working. then reinstalled TWRP. Unfortunately, I was only able to install 2.8.0 because of the problem described above so I'm back to square one
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I also read somewhere that this might be due to an outdated firmware. After more reading, I'm confused on how to update the firmware or what I should do to remedy these other problems. I tried to use RUU_M8_UL_K44_SENSE60_ATT_SECURITY_Cingular_US_1.58.502.1_Radio_1.16.21331931.LA11G_20.31A.4145.02L_release_368350_signed_2 to update my phone
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This is the same firmware as the hboot number in your photo would indicate.
Relock the bootloader and run the Lollipop 4.28.502 RUU as linked in my AT&T M8 Index thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751432
Then unlock the bootloader again, wipe cache and try to install TWRP 3.0.0.0
redpoint73 said:
This is the same firmware as the hboot number in your photo would indicate.
Relock the bootloader and run the Lollipop 4.28.502 RUU as linked in my AT&T M8 Index thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751432
Then unlock the bootloader again, wipe cache and try to install TWRP 3.0.0.0
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Thanks, this fixed it. I don't know how many different articles and stuff I read, but I must have missed locking the boot loader.
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Thanks, this fixed it. I don't know how many different articles and stuff I read, but I must have missed locking the boot loader.
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You're very welcome.
So you were able to unlock the bootloader again, update to TWRP 3.0.0.0, and flash a current ROM?
Yeah, flashed TWRP 3.0 then the latest cyanogenmod nightly. Everything works great
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Yeah, flashed TWRP 3.0 then the latest cyanogenmod nightly. Everything works great
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Nice work.
Hi, I have bought used here in Italy a op3, when turn on in the display I can see a message about the bootloader unlock, and so I think that the previously owner have unlocked the unit. Now I have a problem with the update, I have tried with ota and with USB but the phone stop the update and show me the message installation failed, then I can only reboot. How I can relock the Bootloader? Thanks in advance for your help.
before you re-lock the bootloader you should make sure that you are running the stock oxygenOS rom and receovery, see below:
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...lus-3-and-go-back-completely-to-stock.456232/
thanks for your reply, I, think that the phone now running with OxygenOS 3.2.2 stock, so I can directly relock the bootloader? If I do an hard reset the bootloader will be relocked?
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thanks for your reply, I, think that the phone now running with OxygenOS 3.2.2 stock, so I can directly relock the bootloader? If I do an hard reset the bootloader will be relocked?
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you might be running OOS 3.2.2 stock but still have a custom recovery - boot into recovery first just to confirm that you have the stock recovery as well
still if you have a custom recovery, it's easier to get update. Just download the full rom and flash it with TWRP (I don't think there is another custom recovery), it won't wipe the data. Even if the previous owner did a slight modification on OOS 3.2.2, it will overwrite it.
updates can be downloaded many days before the OTA appear on the phone.
Ok I think that I have a custom recovery, TWRP working with non rooted phone? I have checked and my phone not have root. Please can you explain how I can update through TWRP?
if you want to stay unlocked and use TWRP that's fine, but note that you will need to MANUALLY UPDATE every time if you're on the stock OOS ROM.
if you are not comfortable with this, follow the instructions on the link i sent you to get back to full stock with stock recovery as well, so updates OTA work correctly.
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...lus-3-and-go-back-completely-to-stock.456232/
2x4 thanks for your help, I not have any problem to keep my phone unlocked, but I don't able to update not even in manual way, maybe I wrong something.
I have enabled usb debug on op3, have connected the phone to my laptop and opened minimal ADB, then have downloaded the oxygenOS 3.2.4 put the phone in sideload mode, cecked the connection with adb devices command and the phone is connected. Then writed adb sideload and have dragged the oxigenOs .3.2.4 . but nothing happen in adb minimal and on the phone. After a bit the phone give me the same message that appears when I try to uptade through ota, installation failed an I can only reboot. Thanks again for your suggestions.
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2x4 thanks for your help, I not have any problem to keep my phone unlocked, but I don't able to update not even in manual way, maybe I wrong something.
I have enabled usb debug on op3, have connected the phone to my laptop and opened minimal ADB, then have downloaded the oxygenOS 3.2.4 put the phone in sideload mode, cecked the connection with adb devices command and the phone is connected. Then writed adb sideload and have dragged the oxigenOs .3.2.4 . but nothing happen in adb minimal and on the phone. After a bit the phone give me the same message that appears when I try to uptade through ota, installation failed an I can only reboot. Thanks again for your suggestions.
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sorry, im not really sure what you mean, but if you're following the instructions on that post step by step and verifying what you get it should work.
You need to successfully flash the full zip to get the stock rom+recovery on there
ok sorry for my confusion. Please can you explain to me the right way to update a bootloader unlocked phone?
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ok sorry for my confusion. Please can you explain to me the right way to update a bootloader unlocked phone?
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the bootloader being locked or unlocked is irrelevant - your issue is your non-stock recovery.
the full Oxygen OS zip includes the stock recovery from OnePlus, which OTA updates are programmed to use to automatically update your phone.
since you have TWRP recovery instead, you'll need to download and manually flash OxygenOS
download the full ZIP for 3.2.4 from this thread and flash it via TWRP recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/how-to/oxygen-os-3-2-4-released-t3437911
So, I have a Sprint HTC 10. It was rooted, and then an OTA update came out about a week or so ago, version 1.80.651.10.
I unrooted and installed it, since I have TWRP it seems to take over the install process, but more or less does install it correctly.
Once my phone rebooted, it complained that the download was corrupt like it always does (likely due to TWRP) but this has happened before and the update always actually does install successfully. Going to system settings I can confirm that I am on version 1.80.651.10.
However, this time, it seems hell-bent on assuming that the update didn't install. It keeps putting an update notification in the notification bar that refuses to go away. If I go to check for updates, it confirms that I am up to date and the notification disappears.... for a short while, but then appears again asking me to install the update.
How can I get rid of this annoying thing? I haven't even gotten around to re-rooting my phone yet, as been confirmed by root and safetynet checkers, the ROM is basically at stock right now.
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So, I have a Sprint HTC 10. It was rooted, and then an OTA update came out about a week or so ago, version 1.80.651.10.
I unrooted and installed it, since I have TWRP it seems to take over the install process, but more or less does install it correctly.
Once my phone rebooted, it complained that the download was corrupt like it always does (likely due to TWRP) but this has happened before and the update always actually does install successfully. Going to system settings I can confirm that I am on version 1.80.651.10.
However, this time, it seems hell-bent on assuming that the update didn't install. It keeps putting an update notification in the notification bar that refuses to go away. If I go to check for updates, it confirms that I am up to date and the notification disappears.... for a short while, but then appears again asking me to install the update.
How can I get rid of this annoying thing? I haven't even gotten around to re-rooting my phone yet, as been confirmed by root and safetynet checkers, the ROM is basically at stock right now.
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If you have twrp installed it wont update the firmware only software. You need to flash firmware seperatly with fastboot.
So I would need to extract the firmware or something out of the OTA file and flash that manually? What partitions would the firmware be updating?
And I am assuming this would overwrite TWRP and I would have to reinstall it?
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So I would need to extract the firmware or something out of the OTA file and flash that manually? What partitions would the firmware be updating?
And I am assuming this would overwrite TWRP and I would have to reinstall it?
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Correct.:good:
Can somebody please explain how to flash the firmware with fastboot?
So I have to flash the OTA with TWRP, afterwards I have to extract the firmware file out of the OTA.zip and flash it with fastboot. But which commands are necessary in fastboot?
To get this out of the way, you can only flash firmware over fastboot if you're S-OFF. Otherwise, you'll need to restore completely to stock via custom recovery or RUU then update by OTA.
The best guide I've found for this is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/2016-05-27-fastboot-flashing-firmware-t3387520.
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To get this out of the way, you can only flash firmware over fastboot if you're S-OFF. Otherwise, you'll need to restore completely to stock via custom recovery or RUU then update by OTA.
The best guide I've found for this is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/2016-05-27-fastboot-flashing-firmware-t3387520.
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Thats not true. You flash in ruu mode when S - ON. If your are S - Off you can do it from download mode. I think you are a little confused with that thread. Those firmwares are modified and for S -Off phones only.
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Thats not true. You flash in ruu mode. If soff you can do it from download mode.
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Ah, you're right! Sorry. To flash while S-ON, the CID and MID must match the zip + the bootloader must be locked, right?
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Ah, you're right! Sorry. To flash while S-ON, the CID and MID must match the zip + the bootloader must be locked, right?
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Im not sure about locked or relocked bootloader, i think it will work with unlocked but i could be wrong.
yldlj said:
Im not sure about locked or relocked bootloader, i think it will work with unlocked but i could be wrong.
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I just had another thought, correct me if I'm wrong. You can flash the OTA manually through the stock recovery as a ZIP.
The OTA ZIP can either be downloaded in various places online, or you can download it on the phone as usual then find it in /data/data/com.htc.updater/files (if your device is rooted). More info at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66548846&postcount=3.
You can then flash the OTA through recovery if you have;
* 100% unmodified system (can be restored from TWRP backup)
* Stock recovery
kjjejones42 said:
I just had another thought, correct me if I'm wrong. You can flash the OTA manually through the stock recovery as a ZIP.
The OTA ZIP can either be downloaded in various places online, or you can download it on the phone as usual then find it in /data/data/com.htc.updater/files (if your device is rooted). More info at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66548846&postcount=3.
You can then flash the OTA through recovery if you have;
* 100% unmodified system (can be restored from TWRP backup)
* Stock recovery
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Correct. Also unmodified boot. But if your flashing unmodified system image, boot and stock recovery you may aswell just boot to android and take the ota.
Hey there,
I've got my first HTC device some days ago (-> HTC 10), but coming from a Nexus 5 where things are handled differently, I'm currently quite confused on how all of this works with my HTC 10.
I'd like to apologize in advance if the following questions seem to be stupid or unnecessary, but I'd like to use my device to the fullest and therefore I need your help.
My device is not branded (as far as I can tell) and I've already unlocked it via the steps on htcdev.com + I've installed TWRP + SuperSU (thanks to my previous knowledge with my N5 this was somewhat easy).
Now I got my first OTA update and this is when things got complicated. Several questions popped up and I tried to answer them myself while looking over here, but after reading all those threads I'm even more confused than before :/
My questions are the following:
1) Is there any way to manually update your device with the newest OTA update WITHOUT losing any data? (see question 2)
2) Do I need a microSD card in order to do so? I've seen several YT videos where they did a backup of the current system, but there still was a data wipe after flashing, so why even bother doing a backup at all?
3) My device is unlocked but with S-ON. Do I need S-OFF after all? As far as I can tell I don't need this, but is there any scenario I'd probably need it? (see question 4)
4) I'm thinking about getting a custom rom (Leedroid seems to be pretty decent). Can you recommend any of those custom roms and do I need S-OFF in order to flash them?
5) S-OFF + Locked or S-OFF + Unlocked? What's the difference? Any issues with the warranty?
6) If I do use a custom rom (e.g. Leedroid), is there also a way to update it to further versions without losing any data?
7) Where do I get the latest firmware for manually updating my device? I've already found a thread for it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/stock-stock-collection-recovery-ruu-ota-t3359297), but my current firmware (1.90.401.5) or the one for the OTA update that already popped up (1.95.401.3) isn't listed over there. [EDIT: found my current firmware. Do I need to flash to it in order to do the OTA update?)
8) One last general question: as far as I understand it, unlocking your device is also the same as debranding it? I'm not sure if I'm mixing things up when reading about this. Is there any way to see if my device was branded before I did unlock/root it though?
I'm completely fine with losing my current data if that means that I can set it up my device in such a way that I can avoid any further data wipes when flasing/updating.
I'd be absolutely grateful if someone would answer those questions and help me to understand all of this.
Greetings,
makit_
1) Yes..you can apply the OTA manually, which won't flash the firmware image in the update but you can then find a no-wipe version of the new firmware on xda and flash it. Check out the faq in the twrp thread
2) for flashing firmware packages generally yes its better to have an SD card but I *think* it's possible to do it by issuing fastboot commands
3) s-off is needed if you wanna flash a new firmware I believe
4) you don't need S-off to flash a new ROM that's compatible with your firmware. Leedroid should work for you (this answer can be easily found by checking out each ROM thread and reading the Prerequisites section)
5) yes, most of the time you can "dirty flash" a new version of the same rom on top of the old one without wiping. If any issues pop up, or if it's a new base with large differences, then a wipe is needed. You can usually tell if a wipe is required by checking out what the developer says in the thread when a new updated is posted
6) I'm sure it's in a thread somewhere, you gotta search (I think sneakyghost's thread might have them)! And again you need S-off if you wanna flash firmwares
not an expert but here's my thoughts...
1) Is there any way to manually update your device with the newest OTA update WITHOUT losing any data? (see question 2) Yes. But if you want official update from HTC or your carrier via OTA you should be on stock. If you're on custom ROM, you can always dirty flash. But updating to a newer build, ROM dev sometimes recommend a full wipe
2) Do I need a microSD card in order to do so? I've seen several YT videos where they did a backup of the current system, but there still was a data wipe after flashing, so why even bother doing a backup at all?
SD card is not a requirement but is recommended since a full back-up size is ranging from 5gb-10gb maybe more depending in how many apps you installed. Backup is also recommended so you can always go back/restore your working ROM in case you messed up updating.
3) My device is unlocked but with S-ON. Do I need S-OFF after all? As far as I can tell I don't need this, but is there any scenario I'd probably need it? (see question 4). You need s-off mostly on updating your firmware or converting your device to other carrier or if you want to be unlocked. Right now you can flash any custom roms you like since we do not have a major update yet eg.1.x to 2.x. Once 2.x firmware is released, You can easily flash this firmware. But if you're S-ON, you can only update your firmware via official OTA from your carrier or if @Sneakyghost provide specific firmware for your carrier (matching cid and mid) in this thread else you're stock at 1.x firmware and ROMs that will only work on that specific firmware.
4) I'm thinking about getting a custom rom (Leedroid seems to be pretty decent). Can you recommend any of those custom roms and do I need S-OFF in order to flash them? See my answer in #3
5) S-OFF + Locked or S-OFF + Unlocked? What's the difference? Any issues with the warranty? If you're S-off you can always revert back to S-on and return to stock for warranty purposes.
6) If I do use a custom rom (e.g. Leedroid), is there also a way to update it to further versions without losing any data? Yes. see also #1
7) Where do I get the latest firmware for manually updating my device? I've already found a thread for it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-...u-ota-t3359297), but my current firmware (1.90.401.5) or the one for the OTA update that already popped up (1.95.401.3) isn't listed over there. [EDIT: found my current firmware. Do I need to flash to it in order to do the OTA update?)See @Sneakyghost thread linked in #3. Firmware updating can be done via OTA or via fastboot(firmware zip can be downloaded) or full RUU (updating both ROM and firmware).
8) One last general question: as far as I understand it, unlocking your device is also the same as debranding it? I'm not sure if I'm mixing things up when reading about this. Is there any way to see if my device was branded before I did unlock/root it though? I think you meant sim unlocking here?? Generally, "unlocking" mostly mentioned in xda refers to bootloader
Tarima said:
1) Yes..you can apply the OTA manually, which won't flash the firmware image in the update but you can then find a no-wipe version of the new firmware on xda and flash it. Check out the faq in the twrp thread
2) for flashing firmware packages generally yes its better to have an SD card but I *think* it's possible to do it by issuing fastboot commands
3) s-off is needed if you wanna flash a new firmware I believe
4) you don't need S-off to flash a new ROM that's compatible with your firmware. Leedroid should work for you (this answer can be easily found by checking out each ROM thread and reading the Prerequisites section)
5) yes, most of the time you can "dirty flash" a new version of the same rom on top of the old one without wiping. If any issues pop up, or if it's a new base with large differences, then a wipe is needed. You can usually tell if a wipe is required by checking out what the developer says in the thread when a new updated is posted
6) I'm sure it's in a thread somewhere, you gotta search (I think sneakyghost's thread might have them)! And again you need S-off if you wanna flash firmwares
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Thanks for your response! The numeration is wrong though as I edited my post while you were already typing your answers, but I figured it out nonetheless
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1) Is there any way to manually update your device with the newest OTA update WITHOUT losing any data? (see question 2) Yes. But if you want official update from HTC or your carrier via OTA you should be on stock. If you're on custom ROM, you can always dirty flash. But updating to a newer build, ROM dev sometimes recommend a full wipe
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When using a custom ROM, is it also possible to save your data so you can restore it after the full wipe?
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2) Do I need a microSD card in order to do so? I've seen several YT videos where they did a backup of the current system, but there still was a data wipe after flashing, so why even bother doing a backup at all?
SD card is not a requirement but is recommended since a full back-up size is ranging from 5gb-10gb maybe more depending in how many apps you installed. Backup is also recommended so you can always go back/restore your working ROM in case you messed up updating.
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As far as I can tell, when doing a backup, you dont save your data 'partition' as it is encrypted anyways. Do I assume right that when doing a backup, I cannot restore my data I had before doing the flash?
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3) My device is unlocked but with S-ON. Do I need S-OFF after all? As far as I can tell I don't need this, but is there any scenario I'd probably need it? (see question 4). You need s-off mostly on updating your firmware or converting your device to other carrier or if you want to be unlocked. Right now you can flash any custom roms you like since we do not have a major update yet eg.1.x to 2.x. Once 2.x firmware is released, You can easily flash this firmware. But if you're S-ON, you can only update your firmware via official OTA from your carrier or if @Sneakyghost provide specific firmware for your carrier (matching cid and mid) in this thread else you're stock at 1.x firmware and ROMs that will only work on that specific firmware.
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I've already seen the sunshine thread which is about turning S-OFF. While it is possible to go back to S-ON, it was recommended to let your device stay in S-OFF. Is there a high risk in bricking your device when trying to go back to S-ON?
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4) I'm thinking about getting a custom rom (Leedroid seems to be pretty decent). Can you recommend any of those custom roms and do I need S-OFF in order to flash them? See my answer in #3
5) S-OFF + Locked or S-OFF + Unlocked? What's the difference? Any issues with the warranty? If you're S-off you can always revert back to S-on and return to stock for warranty purposes.
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As far as I know, doing so will void your warranty. Won't they notice if I just revert it myself and then send it in for warranty?
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7) Where do I get the latest firmware for manually updating my device? I've already found a thread for it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-...u-ota-t3359297), but my current firmware (1.90.401.5) or the one for the OTA update that already popped up (1.95.401.3) isn't listed over there. [EDIT: found my current firmware. Do I need to flash to it in order to do the OTA update?)See @Sneakyghost thread linked in #3. Firmware updating can be done via OTA or via fastboot(firmware zip can be downloaded) or full RUU (updating both ROM and firmware).
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Sorry this might be a rather dumb question, but I always thought ROM and firmware are the same thing. Or is it that updating my device via OTA is updating my firmware, while installing something like Leedroid is altering my ROM?
Again, thanks for all your responses in advance! You're helping me out a lot!
Greetings,
makit_
When using a custom ROM, is it also possible to save your data so you can restore it after the full wipe?
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its possible but there's possibility that you might have some issue. Not sure though, never done that. I always use titanium backup to restore my apps.
As far as I can tell, when doing a backup, you dont save your data 'partition' as it is encrypted anyways. Do I assume right that when doing a backup, I cannot restore my data I had before doing the flash?
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Data partition can be backed up actually and can be restored.
I've already seen the sunshine thread which is about turning S-OFF. While it is possible to go back to S-ON, it was recommended to let your device stay in S-OFF. Is there a high risk in bricking your device when trying to go back to S-ON?
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Agree. there is no sense in reverting back to s-on unless if it's for warranty purposes.
Is there a high risk in bricking your device when trying to go back to S-ON?
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I would say NO. I never used sunshine to s-off. I am using a hardware s-off and I did not experience any issue going back to s-on.
As far as I know, doing so will void your warranty. Won't they notice if I just revert it myself and then send it in for warranty?
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On the device itself, I don't think so as long as you return it in full stock state. But if I remember correctly HTC dev requires you to provide your imei when requesting for unlock token bin file used to unlock bootloader, So if your unlock you device via HTC dev they have your imei in their record. They know that you already unlocked your device and warranty is void already.
Sorry this might be a rather dumb question, but I always thought ROM and firmware are the same thing
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Take a look at this link. It provides you a complete explanation between ROM and Firmware.
Or is it that updating my device via OTA is updating my firmware, while installing something like Leedroid is altering my ROM?
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Updating via official OTA usually updates ROM and firmware.
Installing a custom rom does not update firmware. Yes, it only alters ROM. But your ROM should always match your firmware at least the first digit of the firmware version (eg. 1.xx). For instance Android N (firmware veraion to be 2.x) arrives and LeeDroid updates its ROM to this, to be able to flash this latest custom rom, your firmware should also be at latest 2.x firmware else it will not boot. In this case, you need to update your firmware either via OTA, Fastboot or RUU.
makit_ said:
Thanks for your response! The numeration is wrong though as I edited my post while you were already typing your answers, but I figured it out nonetheless
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When using a custom ROM, is it also possible to save your data so you can restore it after the full wipe?
As far as I can tell, when doing a backup, you dont save your data 'partition' as it is encrypted anyways. Do I assume right that when doing a backup, I cannot restore my data I had before doing the flash?
I've already seen the sunshine thread which is about turning S-OFF. While it is possible to go back to S-ON, it was recommended to let your device stay in S-OFF. Is there a high risk in bricking your device when trying to go back to S-ON?
As far as I know, doing so will void your warranty. Won't they notice if I just revert it myself and then send it in for warranty?
Sorry this might be a rather dumb question, but I always thought ROM and firmware are the same thing. Or is it that updating my device via OTA is updating my firmware, while installing something like Leedroid is altering my ROM?
Again, thanks for all your responses in advance! You're helping me out a lot!
Greetings,
makit_
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Thats a thing that iam also interested in. Iam also new to htc.
I think with firmware they mean bootloader. But nobody gave me a good answer till now...
side_flip15 said:
its possible but there's possibility that you might have some issue. Not sure though, never done that. I always use titanium backup to restore my apps.
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I know that app by name, but never used it. Will take a look into it
side_flip15 said:
I would say NO. I never used sunshine to s-off. I am using a hardware s-off and I did not experience any issue going back to s-on.
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Do you mean like this? (found in another forum):
1. First step is to unlock bootloader:
a) If bootloader unlock is turned off on your phone, you need to turn it on first:
- Boot to Android OS and perform initial setup if necessary
- Go to Menu -> Developer settings and tick "Enable OEM unlock"
Run XTC 2 Tool and open "Bootloader unlock" tab, follow instructions to unlock your bootloader.
2. Reboot to download mode, open "HTC 10" tab and install twrp recovery, you can get it here:
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or
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3. Boot to Bootloader, and press "Reboot to recovery".
4. In "HTC 10" tab press "Do S-OFF button".
5. Wait for the process to finish. Done.
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side_flip15 said:
On the device itself, I don't think so as long as you return it in full stock state. But if I remember correctly HTC dev requires you to provide your imei when requesting for unlock token bin file used to unlock bootloader, So if your unlock you device via HTC dev they have your imei in their record. They know that you already unlocked your device and warranty is void already.
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Yeah, I've done it this way. Sucks. But maybe it's not this bad at all. As I'm trying to be safe anyway, I probably only need to make use of the warranty if I'd accidentally drop my device. Those cases are still valid for warranty as far as I can tell (extract from the htcdev.com site: 'Please understand that you will not be able to return your device to the original state and going forward your device may not be held covered under the warranty for all claims resulting from the unlocking of the bootloader.'). Do you also know anything about this?
side_flip15 said:
Take a look at [... ]this link[/URL]. It provides you a complete explanation between ROM and Firmware.
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Thanks, will look into it.
side_flip15 said:
Updating via official OTA usually updates ROM and firmware.
Installing a custom rom does not update firmware. Yes, it only alters ROM. But your ROM should always match your firmware at least the first digit of the firmware version (eg. 1.xx). For instance Android N (firmware veraion to be 2.x) arrives and LeeDroid updates its ROM to this, to be able to flash this latest custom rom, your firmware should also be at latest 2.x firmware else it will not boot. In this case, you need to update your firmware either via OTA, Fastboot or RUU.
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Good to know. So in order to use the latest Leedroid and get rid of that OTA update notification, I should do the following:
1) Go back to stock (flash via RUU)
2) Hardware S-OFF (see above)
3) Flash latest OTA update
4) Custom Recovery again (TWRP) + Root (SuperSU)
5) Install latest Leedroid (have to read about it first, but afaik I have to install the zip of it via TWRP)
6) done
Is this correct or are there any mistakes?
And thanks a ton, you've helped me so much already!
Greetings,
makit_
makit_ said:
1) Is there any way to manually update your device with the newest OTA update WITHOUT losing any data? (see question 2)
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If you are stock with only SU, then this is how I've gone about installing OTAs without wiping data:
1. Download ota (Settings>About>Software Updates) and move downloaded OTA from /data/data/com.htc.updater/files to sd card
2. In TWRP restore stock 'System Image' and 'Boot'
3. Reboot to Downloader
4. Flash stock recovery (fastboot.exe flash recovery xxx.img) --> can use current ota.zip > extract firmware.img from zip (if using 7zip -> rename .zip to .rar to extract fw)
5. Reboot to stock recovery
6. Install OTA in stock recovery
7. Reboot to Downloader
8. Reinstall TWRP (fastboot.exe flash recovery twrpxxx.img)
9. Backup stock 'System Image' and 'Boot'
10. In TWRP reflash SuperSu/Xposed/etc
yankee1390 said:
If you are stock with only SU, then this is how I've gone about installing OTAs without wiping data:
1. Download ota (Settings>About>Software Updates) and move downloaded OTA from /data/data/com.htc.updater/files to sd card
2. In TWRP restore stock 'System Image' and 'Boot'
3. Reboot to Downloader
4. Flash stock recovery (fastboot.exe flash recovery xxx.img) --> can use current ota.zip > extract firmware.img from zip (if using 7zip -> rename .zip to .rar to extract fw)
5. Reboot to stock recovery
6. Install OTA in stock recovery
7. Reboot to Downloader
8. Reinstall TWRP (fastboot.exe flash recovery twrpxxx.img)
9. Backup stock 'System Image' and 'Boot'
10. In TWRP reflash SuperSu/Xposed/etc
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This sounds very convenient and not far too different than what I was used to with my N5. Guess I'll give it a go! Already found a way to disable the HTC lock screen http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/disable-htc-10-lockscreen-t3418108 (which is annoying especially when using a different launcher as the lock screen background is still the one from the stock launcher). Only thing bugging me now is that BoomSound notification, but I guess I can live with that
makit_ said:
This sounds very convenient and not far too different than what I was used to with my N5. Guess I'll give it a go! Already found a way to disable the HTC lock screen http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/disable-htc-10-lockscreen-t3418108 (which is annoying especially when using a different launcher as the lock screen background is still the one from the stock launcher). Only thing bugging me now is that BoomSound notification, but I guess I can live with that
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may look at installing XPosed as they have a module "XNotifications" that lets you hide any type of notification
yankee1390 said:
may look at installing XPosed as they have a module "XNotifications" that lets you hide any type of notification
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Will also look into this. I've used Xposed on my N5 but wasn't sure the HTC 10 is already fully supported (have read something about that, but those threads were already 3-4 months old). Thanks!
So I'm trying to do the step-by-step instructions from yankee1390 because I guess that's the easiest way for me to handle things. Now I've already got my first (and hopefully only) issue with it: I did no backup when I first installed TWRP and before I've rooted my device. So in order to accomplisch step 2) (restore stock system image + boot in TWRP), can I use the files from the RUU provided here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/stock-stock-collection-recovery-ruu-ota-t3359297?
I've found the one matching my current firmware (1.90.401.5), so is it ok if I use those for step 2?
And by the way, I guess I have to do a backup after every OTA update (and before rooting) so I always have the right files for restoring, huh?
Greetings,
makit_
edit: may have found the solution to it Will update once I'm done.
makit_ said:
So I'm trying to do the step-by-step instructions from yankee1390 because I guess that's the easiest way for me to handle things. Now I've already got my first (and hopefully only) issue with it: I did no backup when I first installed TWRP and before I've rooted my device. So in order to accomplisch step 2) (restore stock system image + boot in TWRP), can I use the files from the RUU provided here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/stock-stock-collection-recovery-ruu-ota-t3359297?
I've found the one matching my current firmware (1.90.401.5), so is it ok if I use those for step 2?
And by the way, I guess I have to do a backup after every OTA update (and before rooting) so I always have the right files for restoring, huh?
Greetings,
makit_
edit: may have found the solution to it Will update once I'm done.
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Link didn't work on my app so can't confirm if that will work. However any TWRP stock backup that matches your current version should work. RUUs will wipe your data if you use them.
Definitely good idea to backup after each ota before modifying system partition to make next ota easier. Though usually someone on here can provide a backup if you don't get one.
I know that app by name, but never used it. Will take a look into it
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i suggest you purchase a pro version. It's a really a must-have app
Do you mean like this? (found in another forum):
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Yes. This is the process how to s-off using xtc2clip - A very handy tool that works almost every HTC devices. Support is great too.
Yeah, I've done it this way. Sucks. But maybe it's not this bad at all. As I'm trying to be safe anyway, I probably only need to make use of the warranty if I'd accidentally drop my device. Those cases are still valid for warranty as far as I can tell (extract from the htcdev.com site: 'Please understand that you will not be able to return your device to the original state and going forward your device may not be held covered under the warranty for all claims resulting from the unlocking of the bootloader.'). Do you also know anything about this?
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Yeah. They might not know we can s-off. lol
Good to know. So in order to use the latest Leedroid and get rid of that OTA update notification
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If you mean OTA notification from HTC, most of the custom ROMs already disabled that, I believe. And they provide you with their own OTA update (Not all, some do. Like ViperRom)
I should do the following:
1) Go back to stock (flash via RUU)
2) Hardware S-OFF (see above)
3) Flash latest OTA update
4) Custom Recovery again (TWRP) + Root (SuperSU)
5) Install latest Leedroid (have to read about it first, but afaik I have to install the zip of it via TWRP)
6) done
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This is correct but there is an easier way after you s-offed.
1. Download the latest firmware.zip, if you're not on the latest yet. Flash it via fastboot commands in download.
mode. Instruction is available in the link I provided earlier in @Sneakyghost firmware thread.
2. Flash TWRP.
3. Download your desired custom ROM (LeeDroid). This is in .zip file.
4. Reboot to recovery, wipe data/factory reset then flash the LeeDroid.zip. Just follow the instructions in aroma.
by the way, if you'll flash firmware.zip make you select the matching CID and MID of your device. You might end up bricking your device flashing a wrong firmware. If you can provide me your CID and MID, I'll link you to the correct firmware for your device. To do so, reboot to bootloader and type the following commands in cmd, remove your IMEI and SN and post the result here.
And thanks a ton, you've helped me so much already!
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You are welcome.
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I never done updating software via HTC official update. I don't know but for me I don't see any reason sticking to stock ROM. There are a lot of custom ROMs out there tweaked for better performance and battery life. They are also always updated to latest build.
side_flip15 said:
i suggest you purchase a pro version. It's a really a must-have app
Yes. This is the process how to s-off using xtc2clip - A very handy tool that works almost every HTC devices. Support is great too.
Yeah. They might not know we can s-off. lol
If you mean OTA notification from HTC, most of the custom ROMs already disabled that, I believe. And they provide you with their own OTA update (Not all, some do. Like ViperRom)
This is correct but there is an easier way after you s-offed.
1. Download the latest firmware.zip, if you're not on the latest yet. Flash it via fastboot commands in download.
mode. Instruction is available in the link I provided earlier in @Sneakyghost firmware thread.
2. Flash TWRP.
3. Download your desired custom ROM (LeeDroid). This is in .zip file.
4. Reboot to recovery, wipe data/factory reset then flash the LeeDroid.zip. Just follow the instructions in aroma.
by the way, if you'll flash firmware.zip make you select the matching CID and MID of your device. You might end up bricking your device flashing a wrong firmware. If you can provide me your CID and MID, I'll link you to the correct firmware for your device. To do so, reboot to bootloader and type the following commands in cmd, remove your IMEI and SN and post the result here.
You are welcome.
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Thanks for all your help. I will look into it when I need it. For now I'll stick with stock (see below)
side_flip15 said:
I never done updating software via HTC official update. I don't know but for me I don't see any reason sticking to stock ROM. There are a lot of custom ROMs out there tweaked for better performance and battery life. They are also always updated to latest build.
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I love using stock android, that's why I also loved using my Nexus 5. I used CyanogenMod with another device many years ago but I am willing to use a custom ROM for my HTC 10, but only after I already know how it feels with stock ROM. So I will stick with it for several weeks and see how it feels, and when I'm farmiliar with it, I will switch to a custom ROM So thanks a lot, you've given me a lot of information I will still need for further experimenting with my phone!
Piggybacking on this thread because my new-to-me HTC 10 is coming in the mail and I'm planning what to do with it. It is already bootloader unlocked and s-off. I would like to use Leedroid, ElementalX, Magisk, and Xposed.
I've never had an HTC device so I just want to make sure I'm doing this right. So I think this is what I need to do:
1) Flash TWRP via ADB
2) Flash SuperSU in TWRP
3) Flash everything else...Leedroid, ElementX, Xposed, Magisk. In that order? Can I flash them all at once (just keep adding zips to the TWRP list) or do I have to boot between each one?
Xposed is more important to me than a custom ROM, because I need to use Amplify and PowerNap to improve my battery life. Would it be better just to stay on stock instead of Leedroid?
@jrbmed08
TWRP is flashed via fastboot, not ADB.
No need to flash SuperSU via recovery since LeeDroid has root already.
You can flash everything at once.
Sent from my HTC 10
I love using stock android, that's why I also loved using my Nexus 5. I used CyanogenMod with another device many years ago but I am willing to use a custom ROM for my HTC 10, but only after I already know how it feels with stock ROM. So I will stick with it for several weeks and see how it feels, and when I'm farmiliar with it, I will switch to a custom ROM So thanks a lot, you've given me a lot of information I will still need for further experimenting with my phone!
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When I said stock ROM, i meant stock HTC ROM and it's not stock Android. It's a skinned android called HTC sense. . If you want a stock android to run in your HTC 10 you can flash a AOSP based custom ROM.
Magnum_Enforcer said:
@jrbmed08
TWRP is flashed via fastboot, not ADB.
No need to flash SuperSU via recovery since LeeDroid has root already.
You can flash everything at once.
Sent from my HTC 10
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Ah yeah, sorry, fastboot is what I meant. Thank you! I haven't had an unlocked bootloader in quite a while (was using TWRP and Sony stock-based ROMs on a locked Z3c), so it will be interesting to flash kernels and such again.
d_Schizzo said:
Thats a thing that iam also interested in. Iam also new to htc.
I think with firmware they mean bootloader. But nobody gave me a good answer till now...
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not only bootloader, it contains everything. radio.img and any other thing. "low-lewel-stuff", kernel etc, recovery (if stock signed firmware, which is not modded/removed). there are many important things inside.
but firmware is meant for every device the same. it contains everything so that this device can run/work properly.