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Hey all, I have the GOOD app for my corp email, and it now checks for root, and boots me everytime I try to install it. I had off and on problems with my Nexus S with that, but I figured it was on their end as it would work fine for a few weeks.
Anyway, I cannot get it to open with my rooted SGS3. I am stock ROM, just rooted. Do I have to live in a stock world now if I want work email on my phone (which I kinda have to have). No way to hide that from that app?
If I do, what is the best way to unroot without losing all my apps and data? I dont think I can use ti backup on a non-rooted phone.
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Hey all, I have the GOOD app for my corp email, and it now checks for root, and boots me everytime I try to install it. I had off and on problems with my Nexus S with that, but I figured it was on their end as it would work fine for a few weeks.
Anyway, I cannot get it to open with my rooted SGS3. I am stock ROM, just rooted. Do I have to live in a stock world now if I want work email on my phone (which I kinda have to have). No way to hide that from that app?
If I do, what is the best way to unroot without losing all my apps and data? I dont think I can use ti backup on a non-rooted phone.
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Not sure if it will work but you can try using supersu. You can set GOOD to deny root and disable notifications. Might work?
Neckberg said:
Hey all, I have the GOOD app for my corp email, and it now checks for root, and boots me everytime I try to install it. I had off and on problems with my Nexus S with that, but I figured it was on their end as it would work fine for a few weeks.
Anyway, I cannot get it to open with my rooted SGS3. I am stock ROM, just rooted. Do I have to live in a stock world now if I want work email on my phone (which I kinda have to have). No way to hide that from that app?
If I do, what is the best way to unroot without losing all my apps and data? I dont think I can use ti backup on a non-rooted phone.
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Inside superuser app you can swype to the right and click temporary unroot... Not sure if this works but its worth a try...
pizzlewizzle said:
Inside superuser app you can swype to the right and click temporary unroot... Not sure if this works but its worth a try...
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Didn't think of that. Unfortunately no go.
Any other thoughts on either returning to stock with my apps/settings, it tricking the app?
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This must be a setting your company can adjust, because we use GOOD at my work, and it's working for me, on top of a totally custom, rooted ROM. My Good for enterprise version is 1.9.1.220
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Hey all, I have the GOOD app for my corp email, and it now checks for root, and boots me everytime I try to install it. I had off and on problems with my Nexus S with that, but I figured it was on their end as it would work fine for a few weeks.
Anyway, I cannot get it to open with my rooted SGS3. I am stock ROM, just rooted. Do I have to live in a stock world now if I want work email on my phone (which I kinda have to have). No way to hide that from that app?
If I do, what is the best way to unroot without losing all my apps and data? I dont think I can use ti backup on a non-rooted phone.
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coorsleftfield said:
This must be a setting your company can adjust, because we use GOOD at my work, and it's working for me, on top of a totally custom, rooted ROM. My Good for enterprise version is 1.9.1.220
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How about voodoo OTA rootkeeper, you can temp. unroot run app and simply reroot
Try this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1815070. Sounds perfect.
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Has anyone had any luck using tasker to rename/remove superuser (or supersu) on the launch of a specific app like this one that checks for root, and then auto restore root after tasker sees the app close?
(Yes I know tasker requires root to work but I'm asking if there has been some type of hack or mod to allow tasker to carry out root functions when it temporarily loses super(su/user))
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Hey all, I have the GOOD app for my corp email, and it now checks for root, and boots me everytime I try to install it. I had off and on problems with my Nexus S with that, but I figured it was on their end as it would work fine for a few weeks.
Anyway, I cannot get it to open with my rooted SGS3. I am stock ROM, just rooted. Do I have to live in a stock world now if I want work email on my phone (which I kinda have to have). No way to hide that from that app?
If I do, what is the best way to unroot without losing all my apps and data? I dont think I can use ti backup on a non-rooted phone.
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Any luck ? My company is not going to change the root policy so I eather have to avoid it or ...
what about the stock email app?
If you would be willing to use the stock app you could always try this http://db.tt/b6Svh2HB . Figured its worth mentioning
Hey!
I was faced with the very same issues using Good for Enterprise. The workaround I've used is:
- flash Siyah Kernel (S3 1.7 RC1, i think)
- setup dual boot with a couple ROMs (PA and Omega in my case).
- remove root on one of the ROMs and reboot
- boot into the unrooted ROM and install Good from scratch (and not via Titanium)
- thank the developers who came up with these fantastic ROMs and kernels on a daily basis
Good luck! Pun intended .
The way we do it is through a script that disabled root - it essentially renames su items the app looks for.
We also had to change permissions to disabled on GOOD for RECEIVE_BOOT_COMPLETED and READ_CALL_LOG
He then made two apk's in tasker that
A) Runs the disable root script and opens GOOD
B) Run the enable root script and opens SU as assurance that we have SU back
Now, there may be an easier way to run GOOD, but this works for us.
I'm running CM10. I believe he's running another JB rom.
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The way we do it is through a script that disabled root - it essentially renames su items the app looks for.
We also had to change permissions to disabled on GOOD for RECEIVE_BOOT_COMPLETED and READ_CALL_LOG
He then made two apk's in tasker that
A) Runs the disable root script and opens GOOD
B) Run the enable root script and opens SU as assurance that we have SU back
Now, there may be an easier way to run GOOD, but this works for us.
I'm running CM10. I believe he's running another JB rom.
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My dependency on GOOD is the only think keeping me from moving from stock to CM10. Could you share the script and apks that let you run GFE?
gnja can you share the script?
Here you go. GFE and root happy again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040163
somebody doing hardwork to make this happen. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040163
personally its too cumbersome for me, so i opted for a fully stock 2nd device which i already have.
it can also be an excuse for buying a new phone, and making your existing phone revert back to full stock just for the purpose.
or maybe buy a cheap used but decent & certified phone like Xperia Arc for the purpose.
I'm kinda new at this. I know about being able to use backups with TWRP and I know about MW Apps Manager but that's about it. Please make suggestions of how I can improve the experience of using the Note 4.
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I'm kinda new at this. I know about being able to use backups with TWRP and I know about MW Apps Manager but that's about it. Please make suggestions of how I can improve the experience of using the Note 4.
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I'm going to assume that you have already installed the TWRP custom recovery. You probably already know that you have to do that before you can obtain root. Aside from being able to flash custom ROMs, none available right now, there are a number of apps that you can install that do a number of things that you cannot do without root. I'll list a few that I use and what they do but the list is not all encompassing:
--Titanium Backup (root)--a great tool for freezing unwanted apps, backing up apps/data etc
--Greenify--enables you to set user installed apps to "hibernate" a few minutes after you have finished using them. Significantly improves battery life.
--LagFix--an app, when run, that can eliminate "lag" when/if it occurs on the phone most of the time.
--SD Maid--a great file manager app that enables you to control which apps start at power on, enables the user to really clean out cache, duplicate files, orphaned files and compact databases. Saves memory resources and keeps your phone running smooth and clean.
--adaway--as the name implies, keeps those pesky little ads from showing up in apps.
--exposed--a favorite of many users. Enables you to customize a number of settings, notifications etc.
That's the apps I use that can only be run with root. I'm sure some other users will chime in here an provide some other things that root offers.
Thanks , I got root last night
First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?
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First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?
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You can run anything you want, it's not going to hurt root. Root is really only a door, or access, to settings/system files that you wouldn't normally have. Any app that you can run without root can be run safely with root. The opposite is not true. There are a number of apps that cannot be run without root. A good way to find most of the apps that require root is to go to the Play Store and just search for "root apps". There's a bunch out there that you may want to try.
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doctor-cool said:
First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?
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The only thing you have to be aware of to protect root is taking an OTA update. Now that you have a custom recovery and root the likely hood that you would be able to find and download an OTA is not likely, but if by chance you receive a notice that an OTA is available do not download and install it. If by chance the phone automatically downloads it and tries to install it, the OTA should fail so you'll be alright.
Be careful not to flash or ODIN a retail firmware. That is probably the biggest warning I can offer. Retail firmware, when flashed, will lock your bootloader. You can flash a modem or a kernel or a recovery, but not the entire firmware .tar md5 file.
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First are there things I should enable or disable to protect root. Is it OK to run the My Verizon app and VZ Protect. Are there any applications that I should not run?
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By the way. Since you are new to root and custom recoveries, the first thing you should do, right now, is do a backup. Power off your phone, go into TWRP recovery (hold down the volume up, home and power buttom all at the same time). Continue to hold them down until you see the TWRP splash screen, then you can let them go. From the on screen menu select backup. Choose which file you want backed up. I recommend you do boot, system, data, modem, EFS and recovery as a minimum. After the backup is complete return to the main menu and select reboot. Do it right now
wifi hotspot
I have already paid for FoxFi and it works great even without root.
But now, how do I get the free wifi hotspot with root What are the advantages of using it?
doctor-cool said:
I have already paid for FoxFi and it works great even without root.
But now, how do I get the free wifi hotspot with root What are the advantages of using it?
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I'm not sure, I don't use it. But, if I remember correctly I think you go into settings>more networks>and turn on mobile hotspot. But again, I don't use it so I'm not sure. Have you done your backup yet? It is the only safety net you will have until a developer releases a ROM we can flash. Don't look for Samsung to release any firmware for the Developer Edition...it ain't going to happen. Your backup and TWRP are the ONLY safety net you have right now. I can't emphasize that enough.
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I'm not sure, I don't use it. But, if I remember correctly I think you go into settings>more networks>and turn on mobile hotspot. But again, I don't use it so I'm not sure. Have you done your backup yet? It is the only safety net you will have until a developer releases a ROM we can flash. Don't look for Samsung to release any firmware for the Developer Edition...it ain't going to happen. Your backup and TWRP are the ONLY safety net you have right now. I can't emphasize that enough.
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Thanks ,Yes I did the backups last night before and after root default and complete. I even tested Restoring a backup before I rooted. I hope I got it
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Thanks ,Yes I did the backups last night before and after root default and complete. I even tested Restoring a backup before I rooted. I hope I got it
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Outstanding. Didn't want to "harp" on the backup thing, but I've seen so many users root, TWRP and then do something to brick their phone and they didn't have a backup. They were screwed.
Automatic Back Up?
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Outstanding. Didn't want to "harp" on the backup thing, but I've seen so many users root, TWRP and then do something to brick their phone and they didn't have a backup. They were screwed.
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We should probably do a backup on a schedule. Someone could make an app that does a back up automatically on a schedule. I'm going to put Back Up Note 4 on my calender then back it up
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We should probably do a backup on a schedule. Someone could make an app that does a back up automatically on a schedule. I'm going to put Back Up Note 4 on my calender then back it up
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It's diffidently a good idea to have a recent backup and the original backup of your stock ROM. The only problem with a lot of backups is keeping straight what backup is what and the amount of space they consume. Memory is cheap I know, but backups can eat up storage real fast, LOL.
Yes. Agree with space but every backup I do, I also have my TWRP folder sync'd to my Dropbox account. So what ever changes are made go their. I also save them on the laptop as well as a thumb drive. Been burned once on my note 3. Now, is there the stock md5 file for the developers edition like on the note 3's?
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Yes. Agree with space but every backup I do, I also have my TWRP folder sync'd to my Dropbox account. So what ever changes are made go their. I also save them on the laptop as well as a thumb drive. Been burned once on my note 3. Now, is there the stock md5 file for the developers edition like on the note 3's?
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No there is not a stock md5 for the DE and there most likely will not be. In the past Samsung has never released a firmware package for their DE phones, not that I have ever seen anyway. What your phone came with is what you got. NO OTAs and no updates of any kind in the future...that's if Samsung behaves like they have in the past. That's why making a good back up of your stock (no root) when you first get recovery is so important. And, making a backup after root of course.
Do you mind me asking how you sync..............
GreenGoblin227 said:
Yes. Agree with space but every backup I do, I also have my TWRP folder sync'd to my Dropbox account. So what ever changes are made go their. I also save them on the laptop as well as a thumb drive. Been burned once on my note 3. Now, is there the stock md5 file for the developers edition like on the note 3's?
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your TWRP folder to your Dropbox account.. Did you transfer the folder to your computer first or can you sync the folder on your phone to DropBox directly ?
I use dropsync select the folder and it just does it automatically.
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I'm going to assume that you have already installed the TWRP custom recovery. You probably already know that you have to do that before you can obtain root. Aside from being able to flash custom ROMs, none available right now, there are a number of apps that you can install that do a number of things that you cannot do without root. I'll list a few that I use and what they do but the list is not all encompassing:
--Titanium Backup (root)--a great tool for freezing unwanted apps, backing up apps/data etc
--Greenify--enables you to set user installed apps to "hibernate" a few minutes after you have finished using them. Significantly improves battery life.
--LagFix--an app, when run, that can eliminate "lag" when/if it occurs on the phone most of the time.
--SD Maid--a great file manager app that enables you to control which apps start at power on, enables the user to really clean out cache, duplicate files, orphaned files and compact databases. Saves memory resources and keeps your phone running smooth and clean.
--adaway--as the name implies, keeps those pesky little ads from showing up in apps.
--exposed--a favorite of many users. Enables you to customize a number of settings, notifications etc.
That's the apps I use that can only be run with root. I'm sure some other users will chime in here an provide some other things that root offers.
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I'm assuming that the Greenify is the one with the leaf?
Is LagFix the purchase version? Is it an app by itself, or does it require exposed?
Do you use the SD Maid Pro Version?
Does the Adaway require exposed as well?
Thanks so much in advance.
Hi all, I am certain others are having this problem, but I couldn't find any threads about it.
Does anyone know how to get a reboot widget to work? I used to keep Quick Reboot on my home screen just to have easy access to recovery and other stuff. Since the Lollipop update, none of the reboot managers on the play store work.
Anyone know of a work around or alternative?
Is your phone rooted, from what i understand the app you're referring to or any like it requires it. If you are rooted most any custom rom will have the boot menu your looking for just not as a widget.
Holo Reboot works for me on OB7.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.scartech.holoreboot
It has a dark and bright widget.
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samep said:
Holo Reboot works for me on OB7.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.scartech.holoreboot
It has a dark and bright widget.
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Dang, it doesn't work for me. It asks for root privileges and I grant them, then says your phone will reboot....but never does. It behaves the same way all reboot managers do, just bombs out.
It has been like this on every ROM I've used (Noterized, Alliance), including stock. WTF?? Are you certain it is rebooting your Note when you ask it to?
Even apps Like Synapse that came with my ROM cannot reboot. The Xposed module reboot function fails too. Like I said, it isn't specific to this ROM, it has always been like this for me on the NOTE 4.
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Dang, it doesn't work for me. It asks for root privileges and I grant them, then says your phone will reboot....but never does. It behaves the same way all reboot managers do, just bombs out.
It has been like this on every ROM I've used (Noterized, Alliance), including stock. WTF?? Are you certain it is rebooting your Note when you ask it to?
Even apps Like Synapse that came with my ROM cannot reboot. The Xposed module reboot function fails too. Like I said, it isn't specific to this ROM, it has always been like this for me on the NOTE 4.
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I was using it with rooted OB7 stock using beta 2.49 SuperSU apk. Just flashed a custom ROM that uses 2.46 and does just as you say.
Try the beta 2.49. It was made for the lollipop kernel enforcing vs permissive mode issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55256620&postcount=1 Shouldn't be beta, IMO.
Edit: that didn't fix it on custom ROM for me either. I'll look deeper into this.
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samep said:
I was using it with rooted OB7 stock using beta 2.49 SuperSU apk. Just flashed a custom ROM that uses 2.46 and does just as you say.
Try the beta 2.49. It was made for the lollipop kernel enforcing vs permissive mode issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55256620&postcount=1 Shouldn't be beta, IMO.
Edit: that didn't fix it on custom ROM for me either. I'll look deeper into this.
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I have found that applications that issue a reboot command(like xposed), also fail to result in a reboot. However, interestingly enough, I just noticed that the reboot command from within Titanium works (it is inside the menu list).
Sometimes I notice when I try to reboot with a app, a toast message comes on a says "Reboot:Null" or "that function doesn't exist (or something like that)" as if that command functionality doesn't exist on the Note 4. I know it isn't a Lollipop issue, because my wife's G2 has Lollipop and Quickboot works flawlessly.
When Titanium successfully rebooted, it flashed a toast message (the first time). I didn't have a chance to read it all, it was long. But it seems to be using another method to initiate a reboot. Dunno, I am stumped.
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I have found that applications that issue a reboot command(like xposed), also fail to result in a reboot. However, interestingly enough, I just noticed that the reboot command from within Titanium works (it is inside the menu list).
Sometimes I notice when I try to reboot with a app, a toast message comes on a says "Reboot:Null" or "that function doesn't exist (or something like that)" as if that command functionality doesn't exist on the Note 4. I know it isn't a Lollipop issue, because my wife's G2 has Lollipop and Quickboot works flawlessly.
When Titanium successfully rebooted, it flashed a toast message (the first time). I didn't have a chance to read it all, it was long. But it seems to be using another method to initiate a reboot. Dunno, I am stumped.
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I got some ideas just slow going setting up a fresh ROM. For stock, I had a highly customized setup, look and feel but everyone's preferences are not alike so I can't complain. Even with Titanium and TWRP tar to pull from, I had system customized too. I've got apps and lib folder to edit; some to copy over and some to delete. Keyboards have got to go; back to custom Swype with top number row and directional left right arrows. There's always the nandroid to restore but I'll try to set this up for a backup.
I'll chime in if I figure it out. Maybe just a matter of time. Not out of ideas yet. If someone has a solution, chime in.
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Hi there, uh... I will directly to question
I downloaded Quick Reboot from XDA labs apps, and it has many useful options to every user who likes to flash stuffs and do anything with their phone, so, I'd like to know if is there any way to get rid of that stock power off menu and add some new options like reboot to recovery, fastboot and others WITHOUT USING THINGS THAT BREAKS SAFETYNET SUCH AS XPOSED... See attached pictures to understand better please.
Thanks in advance for any answer!
Not as far as I know. You'd need to modify the system app that's controlling that. So either you are able to get that app, decompile it, change it and recompile it without errors and get it to install... Or you use XPosed. I don't think there is a way with tools like Magisk
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Not as far as I know. You'd need to modify the system app that's controlling that. So either you are able to get that app, decompile it, change it and recompile it without errors and get it to install... Or you use XPosed. I don't think there is a way with tools like Magisk
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Hmm, okay, thanks
I thought someone could do that with magisk like they do to systemize apps and etc
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Hmm, okay, thanks
I thought someone could do that with magisk like they do to systemize apps and etc
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Like I said, if you can get that app and modify it successfully no problem. But to make sense as a Magisk module that would need to work at least on every close-to-AOSP ROM and I don't think that's possible. Maybe I'm wrong and there actually is an easier method but then I'd be surprised that I don't know if it since I would like to have that too
Hi all,
Joining Team Pixel tomorrow after my debacle with the Huawei Mate 20 Pro and the green screen fiasco.
Just wondering if its still worth rooting the Pixel? If i do it i wanna do it straight away to save wiping my data again when unlocking the BL. My main reasons would be for Adaway, Removing the Nav Bar, Swift theme installer and Viper.
Most of these can be done via ADB now so is it still worth rooting?
Rooting this phone is pretty easy and it doesn't impact the updating process much if you know what you're doing, so I vote that it is definitely worth rooting.
I don't use a lot of root apps, but the two main ones are worth it to me. I use AdAway for ads (VPN ad blockers are slower and have several cons) and an app called Sa2ration to compensate for the screen's weak color.
I have everything working the way I want without any compromises. Very happy with my setup.
It's soooo easy to root, I'm not sure why anyone wouldn't. My main reason is viper 4 android, but adaway, pixel launcher mods (changes icons and has a system UI tuner), and sd maid pro having deeper access for cleanup as well.
I've always had an Android phone that has been able to be rooted. Adaway, V4A, Substratum, Sa2ration, Titanium Backup and removing the stock navigation buttons are the biggest things for me currently with the Pixel 3 XL.
I always recommend unlocking the bootloader right out of the box, even if you never plan to root. The sole reason for this is if at any point something goes awry and you end up in a bootloop or somehow end up soft bricked, with an unlocked bootloader you can be back up and running like new with a very quick flash-all script from the latest factory image on Google's support site. However, with a locked bootloader, if you find yourself in one of those bad situations, you're at the mercy of Google support to either get you a new device or go days without a phone while they try and fix it.
So, in my opinion, unlocking the bootloader is a no brainer on these phones, right from the get-go.
With that said, rooting is much more user preference. I found no reason to root my OnePlus 6. However, with the 3 XL my sole reason for rooting is to edit the build.prop to properly hide the nav bar at the system level, allowing me to use gesture controls without issue. You can use ADB commands to achieve this as well. But my experience in trying to hide the nav bar with ADB commands on this phone has caused some wonky things to happen, such as status bar notifications not going away and volume controls getting cut off when watching something in landscape mode. Rooting the phone and editing the build.prop was the only solution that worked for me to hide the nav bar without running into unforeseen issues.
If you are one to do other things like use Magisk modules and such, then rooting will be a no brainer for you. Also, as someone else mentioned, rooting this phone is the most straight forward/simple experience I've had rooting a phone in years.
Thanks guys thats it decided then. Is it best to OTA to november then root via twrp after ul bootloader.
Yeah nav bar is a pet hate of mine, I used to love LMT launcher, might try the OP gestures though on this one
Guitarfreak26 said:
Thanks guys thats it decided then. Is it best to OTA to november then root via twrp after ul bootloader.
Yeah nav bar is a pet hate of mine, I used to love LMT launcher, might try the OP gestures though on this one
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Try this: [Guide] Pixel 3 XL Android 9.0 (Pie) Unlock/Root/Install Images/Kernels/Recovery + by Homeboy76 do #4 then #8 if you want root. Also, Prerequisites has a link to download SDK Platform tools r28.0.1, if it needs updating.
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It's soooo easy to root, I'm not sure why anyone wouldn't. My main reason is viper 4 android, but adaway, pixel launcher mods (changes icons and has a system UI tuner), and sd maid pro having deeper access for cleanup as well.
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I'm perfectly happy with the stock experience on this phone. I have no need for anything that requires root. I've rooted a lot of phones in the past, but there's something about this one that I just feel no need to do so. To me that says a lot for how far Google has come.
I'm getting my pixel 3 xl in a few hours today and I've been up all night watching pixel 3 xl videos. I was just about to post a question like this, but thanks to you I don't have to! The wonders of searching.
Anyways, I agree for adway and maybe even mods.
What bothers me is if I decide to use Google pay, Pokemon go or using my bank app, because I was told rooting can stop them from allowing me to use them.
I also want to do it out the box.
Also don't know about the new gesture stuff, so if I don't like it, I'd probably want to mod it.
Guitarfreak26 said:
Thanks guys thats it decided then. Is it best to OTA to november then root via twrp after ul bootloader.
Yeah nav bar is a pet hate of mine, I used to love LMT launcher, might try the OP gestures though on this one
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That is exactly what I did with both a Pixel 3 and a Pixel 3 XL. Just don't do a permanent install of TWRP on the XL unless you want to lose your touch screen in TWRP with no way out of TWRP when it boots back in there. I ended up having to hold the power button down until I forced the device off. Booted back into bootloader and ran the temp TWRP (which strangely works fine for touch) and then ran Magisk again to get back to the OS. Strange, the regukar Pixel 3 took permanent TWRP after Magisk, rebooted to TWRP was still able to use touch commands and ran Magisk again to get back to the proper boot image. I can even go to TWRP normally, and touch is functioning normally. I'll have to write the stock boot image when I get home today so I can get back to stock recovery until TWRP for XL is fixed.
GunToYoMouth123 said:
What bothers me is if I decide to use Google pay, Pokemon go or using my bank app, because I was told rooting can stop them from allowing me to use them.
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Magisk has a hide feature built-in that has been working for me. I have several apps that normally detect root and Magisk blocks their detection 100%. My banking app works (normally detects root) and Google Pay is working just fine with Magisk hide.
I've been learning to live with stock ROMS, BUT, I still need my root. Adaway, TiBu, Substratum, LMT Launcher. I can't give 'em up.
Sevael said:
Magisk has a hide feature built-in that has been working for me. I have several apps that normally detect root and Magisk blocks their detection 100%. My banking app works (normally detects root) and Google Pay is working just fine with Magisk hide.
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Ohh okay, thanks for that input !
My pixel 3 XL just got here !
Going to see what's up !
Sevael said:
Magisk has a hide feature built-in that has been working for me. I have several apps that normally detect root and Magisk blocks their detection 100%. My banking app works (normally detects root) and Google Pay is working just fine with Magisk hide.
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My banking apps work fine but i can't get google pay to work. Even with magisk hide still not work. "This account already exists on your device" wheni try to sign in
J32A said:
My banking apps work fine but i can't get google pay to work. Even with magisk hide still not work. "This account already exists on your device" wheni try to sign in
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Not sure, I haven't encountered this.
I find that when an app has detected root, sometimes they retain this information even through reboots. In those situations, clearing all data from the app often fixes it.
Something else to be aware of is that if you have a widget for an app that detects root, it's not uncommon for the widget to load before Magisk finishes loading and hiding after a reboot. On my Pixel 2 I had one app where after each reboot it would load first (due to a widget being present) and would detect root and block itself. I had to remove the widget and just just use a normal shortcut to the app instead, as I would never manually open it before Magisk finished loading up fully.
I just got pixel 2 xl this thing is a beast came with 5g and unlimted data when I got tablets for kids literally no download it's all instant. every phone I have had b4 is rooted most still work. My question will I improve anything by rooting with this speed? I don't think a VPN blckr would slow it down. How hard is it to reverse root if I need warranty? Is this speed the 5g or just Google built a great product?
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I always recommend unlocking the bootloader right out of the box, even if you never plan to root. The sole reason for this is if at any point something goes awry and you end up in a bootloop or somehow end up soft bricked, with an unlocked bootloader you can be back up and running like new with a very quick flash-all script from the latest factory image on Google's support site. However, with a locked bootloader, if you find yourself in one of those bad situations, you're at the mercy of Google support to either get you a new device or go days without a phone while they try and fix it.
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Unlocking the bl is problematic in some instances. Detection for apps and things like that. Why would you just not check off the "allow the bootloader to be unlocked" option in OEM unlocking? Then you get to fastboot and can unlock if needed without actually being unlocked and compromised.
bobby janow said:
Unlocking the bl is problematic in some instances. Detection for apps and things like that. Why would you just not check off the "allow the bootloader to be unlocked" option in OEM unlocking? Then you get to fastboot and can unlock if needed without actually being unlocked and compromised.
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It is my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, that apps recognize root but not bootloader locked status. As long as you don't root, you should be fine with all apps.
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
Eudeferrer said:
It is my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, that apps recognize root but not bootloader locked status. As long as you don't root, you should be fine with all apps.
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No I don't think so. If you bl unlock it will be detected. There are kernels that will fix that but stock unlocked is a trigger.
Eudeferrer said:
It is my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, that apps recognize root but not bootloader locked status. As long as you don't root, you should be fine with all apps.
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Yes. As @bobby janow said, some apps treat bootloader unlock as having root. DirecTV Now is a prime example. Also, Netflix won't even appear in the app store and would have to be sideloaded. Although, all of those can be worked around it is sometimes a pain.