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[Q] Build AOSP ROM

Hello Developers
is someone able to create an AOSP (KitKat 4.4) ROM for our Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini? It would be great if we have a "vanilla" Android version for our Smartphone and this can be used as base for other ROMs. Would be great if someone could build it
Greetings
Cilenco

Cilenco said:
Hello Developers
is someone able to create an AOSP (KitKat 4.4) ROM for our Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini? It would be great if we have a "vanilla" Android version for our Smartphone and this can be used as base for other ROMs. Would be great if someone could build it
Greetings
Cilenco
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Most ROM are based on AOSP or CM (which CM is based on AOSP) :/
And if you want a minimum ROM, there's few ROMs are even less 'bloat' and more 'vanilla' than AOSP itself.

I think he meant that he wanted an actual aosp rom, not just an aosp based rom. While we don't have a pure "aosp" rom for our phones, cyanogenmod is pretty close, slimkat is also pretty bare if you're into that. I'm sure a lot of people could port it, it just remains to be seen if any developer is interested enough to actually do it.

Yes a pure AOSP ROM would be great. The whole ROMs which are aviable for our device are based on AOSP so I think it wouldn't be so difficult to build one from AOSP isn't it?

bluespoon4 said:
I think he meant that he wanted an actual aosp rom, not just an aosp based rom. While we don't have a pure "aosp" rom for our phones, cyanogenmod is pretty close, slimkat is also pretty bare if you're into that. I'm sure a lot of people could port it, it just remains to be seen if any developer is interested enough to actually do it.
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Slim kat is equal to Slim ROM? In that case there is already a port to the S4 mini in the developer section of this forum

[Q] Most stable KitKat ROM for Desire Z?

Im wondering right now what is the most stable KitKat ROM for the Desire Z? I know it cant be stable AND no lag so lets just go with stable....Right now, I have a 4.2.2 ROM that is OK but sometimes it reboots ALL day and suddenly stops and is stable (and no lag).

Which 4.2.2 rom do you have?
For now, nothing on KK is better than the AlterNdromadus 4.2.2

Kéno40 said:
Which 4.2.2 rom do you have?
For now, nothing on KK is better than the AlterNdromadus 4.2.2
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Its guhl's permissions ROM.
I am not looking for a 4.2.2 ROM. I asked for a 4.4.x ROM.
Thank you for your reply but that is not what I am asking

so try purekat, it's not stable but for me the most stable

riahc3 said:
Its guhl's permissions ROM.
I am not looking for a 4.2.2 ROM. I asked for a 4.4.x ROM.
Thank you for your reply but that is not what I am asking
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To be clear, I wanted to tell you that KK Roms are far away from being as stable as this 4.2.2 rom.
So, I went back on 4.2.2.
The only thing that are better on KK : the clock, dialer and contact apps (aesthetically)
I'm waiting for PureKat beta3 (after Marco's exams !).

Kéno40 said:
To be clear, I wanted to tell you that KK Roms are far away from being as stable as this 4.2.2 rom.
So, I went back on 4.2.2.
The only thing that are better on KK : the clock, dialer and contact apps (aesthetically)
I'm waiting for PureKat beta3 (after Marco's exams !).
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To be clear, I wanted to ask what KK ROM is the most stable.
So, I never mentioned anything about 4.2.2.
Besides, AlterNdromadus 4.2.2 being a CM ROM, is problably slow as hell compared to AOSP....

riahc3 said:
Besides, AlterNdromadus 4.2.2 being a CM ROM, is problably slow as hell compared to AOSP....
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It is not IMO.
I just gave you my feed-back. You're free to test it by yourself. I will be happy if you find a KK Roms which deserve to stay on it on our device...

riahc3 said:
To be clear, I wanted to ask what KK ROM is the most stable.
So, I never mentioned anything about 4.2.2.
Besides, AlterNdromadus 4.2.2 being a CM ROM, is problably slow as hell compared to AOSP....
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No, your preconceptions are incorrect. Firstly, CM is based on AOSP and does not diverge away enough (ala MIUI) to ruin performance. Secondly, CM is actually better performing because with CM we have more up to date libs etc. especially for qcom stuff like libhardware. Due to there never being AOSP support for this device and HTC stopping official support at 2.3, then clearly CM stuff is gonna work better for our device. Why do you think the Andromadus team stopped AOSP 4.2.2 after beta8?
Now the one case where AOSP is faster (for me) is Fyodor's 4.2.2 ROM, because he put in the effort to get all the libhardware stuff and qcom display stuff working nicely.
If you don't believe me then sync the latest Andromadus AOSP 4.2.2 source (as of around the end of 2012 I think), build it, and tell me you prefer it to their most recent CM build.
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It is not IMO.
I just gave you my feed-back. You're free to test it by yourself. I will be happy if you find a KK Roms which deserve to stay on it on our device...
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This is true, and the only advice I can give also. Besides, there are only 2 KitKat ROMs to choose from: Andromadus test builds or Marco's PureKat (CyanKat, AOSB are out of date so won't be stable).
I might like to add that this thread is against the rules anyway so you should be grateful it hasn't been reported yet and accept the advice you've recieved (which has been good).
Essentially, for stability go with 4.2.2, for most stable KitKat it will take you a total of 2 whole flashes to find out which one you prefer.

HTCDreamOn said:
No, your preconceptions are incorrect. Firstly, CM is based on AOSP and does not diverge away enough (ala MIUI) to ruin performance.
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Every 4.2.2 ROM Ive tried that is based on CM vs AOSP is slower. On AOSP you lose some nice features, but Its always seemed slower and more of a memory hogger.
Seems to me that way anyways.
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Secondly, CM is actually better performing because with CM we have more up to date libs etc. especially for qcom stuff like libhardware. Due to there never being AOSP support for this device and HTC stopping official support at 2.3, then clearly CM stuff is gonna work better for our device. Why do you think the Andromadus team stopped AOSP 4.2.2 after beta8?
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Newer isnt always better.

Also:
I was thinking of updating this, but I've lost my G2. I can't blind dev and I ran into enough difficulties as it was when I could test it. Java is just too confusing for me right now, so much more confusing than C which I'm only just starting to get comfy with. Unfortunately the lag is just a problem you'll have to get used to, backup and clean flash and wait a while. I couldn't do anything tobhelp you anyway, I just don't know how. I can give you the age ole tips: no task killers, no placebo scripts, minimal apps, minimal gapps, no hangouts, no Facebook, no heavy browsers (opera mini is great) but yeah I'm really sorry but there won't be any updates. As it is I think the ROM works well anyway. I'm no dev so if you want someone to support then turn to Flinny, Marco, NeverGone, etc. It sucks that my goal to have a stable sorta up to date ROam was dashed but that's life. Thanks to the people who liked the ROM anyway
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1: Java is more confusing than C? Wow....
2: Saying "lag is just a problem youll have to get used to" is a no no. Like I mentioned, the ROM Im currently on is almost lagless but just has the problem of suddenly becoming stupid and rebooting all the time. Other than that, it is great.
3: Saying that the ROM works well anyways when you are mentioning that it lags and also recommending several comprimises like no heavy browsers and no minimal apps is just a no-no. Im sure this ROM had its time and its moment but its been out matched.
I guess Ill stay on this ROM for now and hope that KK development gets better. That or Phonebloks...

Im using a lower end phone these days because of a nonrelated issue and it already has 4.4.2! Im just surprised.
It also works pretty damn good considering the speed and RAM it has.

For me AOSB 1.2.9 is faster but Flinny's alpha3 is most stable because using AOSB it some times gets reboot especially when open es file explorer .quick pic etc.But AOSB consumes a lot of customizations its really good.

Differences between CM, PA, Slim, Carbon, Euphoria

Hello
Please i don't interstand yet the real differences between the Custum Rom Cm, PA, Slim, Carbon
I want to instal only one for long times and want to know which is the best
I heard that CM is the must but what about the others
Thank's

right now, none are stable, so better wait. btw, all these custom roms are almost same: tweaked, deodexed, extra features missing in stock android and theme support

moyses said:
Hello
Please i don't interstand yet the real differences between the Custum Rom Cm, PA, Slim, Carbon
I want to instal only one for long times and want to know which is the best
I heard that CM is the must but what about the others
Thank's
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Siddk007 said:
right now, none are stable, so better wait. btw, all these custom roms are almost same: tweaked, deodexed, extra features missing in stock android and theme support
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I agree. Also, right now I believe they are all running barebone features. CM is working on becoming more stable and the others will probably put off their implementation of features until CM is stable (a lot of them use CM as their base). I know for sure Paranoid Android for the Zenfone lacks all defining features of PA (aside from App Ops, which is Privacy Guard in CM). So far, I'm running CM until other ROMs beef up their features (I'll probably switch to Paranoid Android when it gets peek, hover, etc.)

AOSP ROMs stability and speed

I am "new" here, so for start warm Hello to everyone In fact I registered here 4 years ago but I used to be only reader until now.
I have a LG G3 d855, and after using CM on Desire Z many years ago and after Nexus 4 I knew from the begining that I want only AOSP based ROM. So I rooted phone, installed TWRP then Lolli-based Xenon HD and now - Euphoria. The latter one seems to be very slightly slower than former one, but more stable. But one thing came to my mind and I am not sure. What is your experience with various AOSP based ROMs? Is it worth to try another one than these two mentioned here? Perhaps I should go with pure CM 12.1, which above ROMs are based on? Just which of AOSP ROMs is the most stable and fast for you? Are there any really pure AOSP 5.1.1. ROMs in "stable" version for G3? I couldn't find one... Any suggestions are welcome.

Xenon HD is AOSP based and i use it ATM. It's stable for me and i use experimental build. I also tried Slim Minux build, wich is also AOSP based but it was kinda slower for me. Euphoria OS is CM based i think. And you do have a pure AOSP rom in android dev section, just look a little harder next time. And, as always, Google is your friend.

F-AOSP suits my taste. Absolutely smooth and battery friendly (stock aosp kernel). But there aren't many features like CM for this is based on pure AOSP. Note that this rom is very stable and proximity works very well.

CM based are cool and packed with features, but I found our AOSP versions tend to be a little smoother, eve if you have to exchange some features for performance. F-AOSP is leading in performance for me, but since I take a lot of pictures... well... you can guess. :|

DeHuMaNiZeD said:
Xenon HD is AOSP based and i use it ATM. It's stable for me and i use experimental build.
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I had a small problem with double screen tap wakeup with Xenon, so I gave Euphoria a shot I thought Xenon was somewhat CM based too?
I also tried Slim Minux build, wich is also AOSP based but it was kinda slower for me. Euphoria OS is CM based i think. And you do have a pure AOSP rom in android dev section, just look a little harder next time. And, as always, Google is your friend.
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Thanks, I saw it in ROMs section, but it is in "testing" stage for now, perhaps I should start testing it too

filbertmang said:
F-AOSP suits my taste. Absolutely smooth and battery friendly (stock aosp kernel). But there aren't many features like CM for this is based on pure AOSP. Note that this rom is very stable and proximity works very well.
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F-AOSP is in "testing" stage as I could see, but it is great to hear from you that it is very stable Thanks, I'll give it a try. Usually I don't need to many gimmicks in OS, Android i its pure form is very mature and usable now.

MidnightDevil said:
CM based are cool and packed with features, but I found our AOSP versions tend to be a little smoother, eve if you have to exchange some features for performance. F-AOSP is leading in performance for me, but since I take a lot of pictures... well... you can guess. :|
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Whenever I plan to take good photos, I take my "serious" camera with me, so using somewhat limited Google Camera app is not a problem for me. And another voice for F-AOSP, thanks!

Definetly, F-AOSP deserves a handful of votes. It's vanilla AOSP, very stable and the animations don't lag like CM Roms do.

Yup I'm using the F-AOSP by kjjjnob. Stable and would definitely recommend to other users.
Any one knows when updating the custom rom, do you have to wipe everything again or just clear cache ?
What is the proper procedure to update ?
I do not want to reinstall all my apps again

_DeeK_ said:
Yup I'm using the F-AOSP by kjjjnob. Stable and would definitely recommend to other users.
Any one knows when updating the custom rom, do you have to wipe everything again or just clear cache ?
What is the proper procedure to update ?
I do not want to reinstall all my apps again
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If you REALLY do not want your apps to dissapear, try flashing a custom rom and wipe cache and dalvik cache only. If you are coming from Stock and want to migrate ti AOSP, pretty sure you need to wipe data and not just the cache. Keep in mind that clearing the cache only will cause problems like FC or overheating. I suggest you use Titanium Backup.
Hit the thanks button if I helped you.

filbertmang said:
If you REALLY do not want your apps to dissapear, try flashing a custom rom and wipe cache and dalvik cache only. If you are coming from Stock and want to migrate ti AOSP, pretty sure you need to wipe data and not just the cache. Keep in mind that clearing the cache only will cause problems like FC or overheating. I suggest you use Titanium Backup.
Hit the thanks button if I helped you.
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Thanks for the advice!
I've tried to update the custom rom and only wiping cache and dalvik cache but android errors are popping up.
Perhaps I'll try backing up my apps first before wiping everything else.
Thankfully I made a backup at recovery of my rom first.

MidnightDevil said:
Definetly, F-AOSP deserves a handful of votes. It's vanilla AOSP, very stable and the animations don't lag like CM Roms do.
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Yup I'm using the F-AOSP by kjjjnob. Stable and would definitely recommend to other users.
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After a first day with F-AOSP I can only confirm your experience! Very fast, reliable and stable. I just used Open Gapps instead of suggested packet. The only small glitch I've noticed were web and calendar applications not conforming to material design, but I guess it is common thing for AOSP and I easily have fixed it with appropriate apps from google play.

galaxy s3

sylwiuszp said:
After a first day with F-AOSP I can only confirm your experience! Very fast, reliable and stable. I just used Open Gapps instead of suggested packet. The only small glitch I've noticed were web and calendar applications not conforming to material design, but I guess it is common thing for AOSP and I easily have fixed it with appropriate apps from google play.
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I'm guessing F-AOSP brings AOSP apps, so flashing a stock google package (from opengapp) would replace the aosp components with google ones

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I'm guessing F-AOSP brings AOSP apps, so flashing a stock google package (from opengapp) would replace the aosp components with google ones
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Yes, it seems so. Both browser and calendar are part of AOSP ROM, but I've installed mini version of GAPPS, so only calendar gets replaced when you install newer version from Google Play. Chrome from Google Play was installed besides AOSP browser. This is somewhat a plus for CM based ROMs, where at least browser has more modern, material UI.

Are there any stable "vanilla/nexus" roms for the m9?

Looking for a stock Google rom that's stable. What's the best one out if any?

lt1pnyklr said:
Looking for a stock Google rom that's stable. What's the best one out if any?
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would be really nice to see a pure aosp here. really.

none that i know, only based on cyanogen Candy and Slim custom roms.