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Mail versus GMail

I want to try using the Mail app instead of the GMail one, but is it actually possible to disable the GMail app without losing all the other functionality you get from logging into your Google account? - there seems to be a unified log in used by GMaps as well, for example. And when I try to remove the account in settings, it says I have to do a factory reset, this seems bonkers to me.

I couldn't manage to get my Google Mail account to sign into the Mail app...

patp said:
I want to try using the Mail app instead of the GMail one, but is it actually possible to disable the GMail app without losing all the other functionality you get from logging into your Google account? - there seems to be a unified log in used by GMaps as well, for example. And when I try to remove the account in settings, it says I have to do a factory reset, this seems bonkers to me.
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Turn off sync for Gmail under Settings->Accounts & sync.
You might also want to switch of notifications in the Gmail app too.
Regards,
Dave

Will the phone sync google mail contacts via imap on the mail app or do I need to stick to the gmail app for that?

foxmeister said:
Turn off sync for Gmail under Settings->Accounts & sync.
You might also want to switch of notifications in the Gmail app too.
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I think you must have a different version from mine. I have
Settings - Accounts& Sync
Background Data (tickbox)
AutoSync (tickbox)
Manage Accounts
Google
Stocks
Weather
If I tick Google I get a new screen:
Sync calendar
Sync contacts
Sync Google Mail
Sync Picassa Web Albums
(These all just trigger a sync)
At the bottom there are 2 buttons, Sync Now and Remove Account.
If I try remove account a box pops up warning that it will delete all the data, I say OK, then another box that says it can't do it, I have to factory reset because it is required by some applications.

I have been using the Google Mail app since I've had my phone, but today came across a problem - I could not copy & paste a tracking # from an email. I then quickly set up my gmail in the Mail app, & was able to perform this action very easily.
So my question is: has anyone used both apps extensively, & could they give me a quick "pro's & cons"?

thebosh said:
So my question is: has anyone used both apps extensively, & could they give me a quick "pro's & cons"?
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Here you go someone has already done that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6175293&postcount=43
The only thing that really annoys me is the fact that your Mail widget does not update the list of emails unless you open the Mail application.
Even if you already updated the email list in your GMail appl.
For example: I receive an email. I get a notification in the notification bar. I open it and it takes me to the Gmail appl (by default). I check my emails, read them, exit the application.
However, my HTCMail Widget (sitting on the desktop) does not show any updates. I have to open the HTCMail manually, sync (again!) and only then can I see the updated list.
Aaaargh!

I've been tempted to move to using the mail application over the gmail one as well.
I think ill setup the mail application with my other gmail account then compare the 2

I much prefer the gmail app. I think its quicker and easier to reply, and it syncs straight away unlike the mail app.
Only downside is the lack of widget, but with the number of apps I have on my homescreens, this isn't an issue.

I always feel it's worth mentioning k9mail at this point, if only because it supports IMAP IDLE.

synching contacts

I'm still confused about syncing contacts. I have a Desire on Orange. I have a gmail account, and I use the htc mail app and connect to my gmail account using exchange. I sync my contacts to my gmail account using `google/sync contacts` from the sync page, and I sync my mail using `exchange activesync`. I do this because I can see/edit my contacts via the web gmail page (which is easier/faster than doing it on the phone), and because the mail app is better than the gmail app. But it seems that I have some contact information on my phone which is not visible via the gmail website. To pick one example, it's showing as a `linked contact` between 'exchange' and 'google'. Can I see my exchange contacts online? Where are they? I want them in one place, so I can back them up occasionally (I've already lost my contacts once as I set my phone up). It would seem to make sense, given that some contact info appears to be on exchange somewhere, to have them all there - then I can stop syncing with 'google' on my phone altogether, but I have to be able to see/edit/back them up first.
I've tried googling for this, but all I see is Googles own pages for other platforms, non-free apps to do exchange etc etc.

poldie said:
I'm still confused about syncing contacts. I have a Desire on Orange. I have a gmail account, and I use the htc mail app and connect to my gmail account using exchange. I sync my contacts to my gmail account using `google/sync contacts` from the sync page, and I sync my mail using `exchange activesync`. I do this because I can see/edit my contacts via the web gmail page (which is easier/faster than doing it on the phone), and because the mail app is better than the gmail app. But it seems that I have some contact information on my phone which is not visible via the gmail website. To pick one example, it's showing as a `linked contact` between 'exchange' and 'google'. Can I see my exchange contacts online? Where are they? I want them in one place, so I can back them up occasionally (I've already lost my contacts once as I set my phone up). It would seem to make sense, given that some contact info appears to be on exchange somewhere, to have them all there - then I can stop syncing with 'google' on my phone altogether, but I have to be able to see/edit/back them up first.
I've tried googling for this, but all I see is Googles own pages for other platforms, non-free apps to do exchange etc etc.
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I have the same issues too

Well i don't use exchange, but i can say how i use my gmail sync:
I use Sync/google account on the definitions menu to sync my google calendar, contacts and mail.
This allows me to use mail on gmail app (not htc mail app), calendar on android calendar (i can use htc calendar widgets) and manage online contacts.
Since i previously added my "phone" contacts to phone memory and to a group on google contacts, they have linked to each other and i can mantain an online and local copy of them (this is great to add a hi res picture to contact, since i add the picture to online and local and then choose local picture to be displayed).
I do know that some fields from online google contacts and local contacts are different, and i think this is as stupid as the picture not having quality on google contacts online, but i hope they would solve it in a near future.
I hope that from now on, since google is saying that the BIG changes on Android are done, they will spend some time dealing with the little details that can be very annoying...

Same issue here.
Sync of Contacts
Google-Contacts -> Desire: works
Desire -> Google-Contacts: dosent work
If i try to add or change a birthday on the phone it does not arrive theo google-contacts account. The other way works. Biggest issue on this fine phone.

Hexxer said:
Same issue here.
Sync of Contacts
Google-Contacts -> Desire: works
Desire -> Google-Contacts: dosent work
If i try to add or change a birthday on the phone it does not arrive theo google-contacts account. The other way works. Biggest issue on this fine phone.
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Hi, that issues are from Android and Gmail and not from the Desire.
You should add birthday dates to Google contacts or else the synchronization wont work well, but i do agree these are major stuffs that really annoy me!

There could be an interesseting thing.
I have Software-Version 1.15.XXXX (T-Mobile, rooted Phone) and i found an O2 User with 1.20.XXX - he said it works at his phone.

Hexxer said:
There could be an interesseting thing.
I have Software-Version 1.15.XXXX (T-Mobile, rooted Phone) and i found an O2 User with 1.20.XXX - he said it works at his phone.
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Uau! How can he have an 1.20.xxx? I have unlocked Desire also with 1.15.XXX and no updates for me!

Well I now have 1.21.405.2 updated from ota.

[Q] Stock Email - Remove Gmail Accounts

I'm hoping this is possible.
So on my personal phone I always use the gmail App for my accounts.
I just recently started working for a company that doesn't issue cell phones, but will set up your exchange account on your personal phone, so i've gone and done that.
Everything works fine, accept the Exchange account is accessed through the Stock Email app, and it is also synching my 2 gmail accounts. Is it possible to remove the gmail accounts from the Stock email app? I've gone into the app's settings and I can't see anything to remove them. I can see the option to stop the sync, but that does me no good for whats already been synced.
Any tips?

MikeIsCore said:
I'm hoping this is possible.
So on my personal phone I always use the gmail App for my accounts.
I just recently started working for a company that doesn't issue cell phones, but will set up your exchange account on your personal phone, so i've gone and done that.
Everything works fine, accept the Exchange account is accessed through the Stock Email app, and it is also synching my 2 gmail accounts. Is it possible to remove the gmail accounts from the Stock email app? I've gone into the app's settings and I can't see anything to remove them. I can see the option to stop the sync, but that does me no good for whats already been synced.
Any tips?
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Setting > account setting > delete (garbage can upper right corner)
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Contacts Sync

Just got my Fire Phone a couple of days ago and I knew exactly what I was getting into when I bought it. First thing I did was install Play Store along with all the apks are are important from Google.
But as the title suggests, I am just curious on if there is a way to sync Google Contacts quickly. My Contacts apps syncs fine with my Gmail, but it takes every bit of hour for them to sync. Whereas as when you add a contact in Gmail on the computer they sync immediately with an Android Phone. We have tried the different syncs options on the Fire Phone but to no avail. Just more curious than anything. If there isnt a way, it really doesnt bother me to much instead of being more a nuisance than anything.
Any help is greatly appreciated.

beeson76 said:
Just got my Fire Phone a couple of days ago and I knew exactly what I was getting into when I bought it. First thing I did was install Play Store along with all the apks are are important from Google.
But as the title suggests, I am just curious on if there is a way to sync Google Contacts quickly. My Contacts apps syncs fine with my Gmail, but it takes every bit of hour for them to sync. Whereas as when you add a contact in Gmail on the computer they sync immediately with an Android Phone. We have tried the different syncs options on the Fire Phone but to no avail. Just more curious than anything. If there isnt a way, it really doesnt bother me to much instead of being more a nuisance than anything.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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How did you get them to sync? My contacts app doesnt show any contacts I have on Google. :/

rjmohit said:
How did you get them to sync? My contacts app doesnt show any contacts I have on Google. :/
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I had to set up the Fire Email app with my Gmail address to get the contacts & calendar to sync. I actually like the email app more than I thought I would but can't seem to find two critical things:
-Notify once for emails (not every email)
-Different notification sounds for different accounts
Am I missing a setting somewhere?

rjmohit said:
How did you get them to sync? My contacts app doesnt show any contacts I have on Google. :/
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It was pretty automatic for me. I logged in using my gmail account. I will try to help you though but you prolly already have all the correct settings. When you open your email app from the OS (not some installed app from the store), left swipe to get to your settings. In my email app, the only email I have as an account is Gmail. Go to settings in the menu. Bottom option. On next screen click Contacts Settings. From there you have an option to Synchronize contacts. Make sure that is set to on. Try that and let us know what happens. This is where is may take to up to an hour for it to sync. My original question here was if there is a faster option to get the contacts to sync because many times I need the contact sync immediately.
It prolly just built into the OS to sync at a certain time frame.

ItsDon said:
I had to set up the Fire Email app with my Gmail address to get the contacts & calendar to sync. I actually like the email app more than I thought I would but can't seem to find two critical things:
-Notify once for emails (not every email)
-Different notification sounds for different accounts
Am I missing a setting somewhere?
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beeson76 said:
It was pretty automatic for me. I logged in using my gmail account. I will try to help you though but you prolly already have all the correct settings. When you open your email app from the OS (not some installed app from the store), left swipe to get to your settings. In my email app, the only email I have as an account is Gmail. Go to settings in the menu. Bottom option. On next screen click Contacts Settings. From there you have an option to Synchronize contacts. Make sure that is set to on. Try that and let us know what happens. This is where is may take to up to an hour for it to sync. My original question here was if there is a faster option to get the contacts to sync because many times I need the contact sync immediately.
It prolly just built into the OS to sync at a certain time frame.
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Gotcha!! I basically disabled the built in email app and installed googlecontactssyncadapter.apk in an effort to sync contacts. Unsuccessful, I moved to using CM11 and loving it!! Thanks for the detailed explanations!

I disabled most of the amazon apps as well, and noticed that my contacts stopped syncing. Looked into it a little more and saw that it was tied to the email app. The email app is okay, but it doesn't have any of my gmail labels so that was out, and it was using too much juice as was so I had to find an alternative. This app will connect to google, or a number of other contact sync services, and you can set the sync rate on it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dmfs.carddav.sync

Contacts full of redundant addresses

I synced my contacts from an Exchange account (365), but along with all my actual contacts in Outlook it's synced the address of just about everyone I've ever emailed or received an email from.
How the hell is this happening?
It's definitely syncing ONLY Contacts from the Exchange account.
Anyone else get this problem?

This happens to me sometimes.. go to contacts>three dots on top right> contacts settings>Contacts to display>Customize.

uly609 said:
This happens to me sometimes.. go to contacts>three dots on top right> contacts settings>Contacts to display>Customize.
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Thanks uly, I have tried that but it doesn't work. The only thing that is half-decent is to show only those with a phone number.

fergusstrachan said:
Thanks uly, I have tried that but it doesn't work. The only thing that is half-decent is to show only those with a phone number.
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Check to see if starred in android & other contacts is checked and uncheck them if they are.

uly609 said:
Check to see if starred in android & other contacts is checked and uncheck them if they are.
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Nope, they're not. I start from nothing (none of the options checked) and Contacts shows nothing. Select my Exchange account under Customize, and it all comes back, all that crap.
Weird.

Had the exact same problem on 2 G4's (Long story...boughy first G4,thought it was too big, swapped for S6 Edge, battery sacked, back to 2nd G4).
I couldn't find any way around it. When I had a G2 and Xperia Z3, it would only sync actual contacts I had in Office365. But for some reason the G4, in your words, captures every contact I've ever sent an email to. Additionally, the native contact list, when synced with Honda's 2015 HFL system via Bluetooth, lists contacts by company name and not last name...no way to change this on the car or the phone...truat me, spent 2 hours trying.
My solution...downloaded Nine and now use it for email and contacts, but still use native for calendar. It only syncs actual contacts found in my Office365 contact list. Nine's calendar doesn't have the ability to check free/busy in corporate server, but native calendar does. Additionally, Nine also syncs seamlessly with my car, listing contacts by First Name, Last Name.
I'm happy with this solution and it wasn't all that hard to set up.

i was insanely annoyed by this as well. here's how i fixed it:
contacts > . . . > contact settings > contacts to display > customize > unselect Other Contacts.
these are the contacts that Gmail automatically creates when you email a person one or two times. i would assume doing this for exchange would also remove the frequently contacted contacts that are auto created. i had over 1000 contacts showing before this change. after? ~250

ExTREmE99 said:
i was insanely annoyed by this as well. here's how i fixed it:
contacts > . . . > contact settings > contacts to display > customize > unselect Other Contacts.
these are the contacts that Gmail automatically creates when you email a person one or two times. i would assume doing this for exchange would also remove the frequently contacted contacts that are auto created. i had over 1000 contacts showing before this change. after? ~250
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I guess you mean "Other Contacts" under the Google account? That's unchecked as well. EVERYTHING is unchecked, literally, except Contacts under my ActiveSync account. I cleared the Contacts Storage as well and they all came back. Feckin annoying.
TX - Thanks for the suggestion. I'm trying it out now, but it's a bit sh1t having to spend £6.50 cos LG can't get it right.

No worries!
The strange part to me is that LG had it right with the G2, but clearly changed something with the G4.
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No worries!
The strange part to me is that LG had it right with the G2, but clearly changed something with the G4.
One other thing I should have mentioned...disassociate your Office365 Exchange sync, power cycle the phone (this clears all the contacts), then install Nine.