Samsung's software update 31st October - Note 7 Questions & Answers

Hello guys and gals, we are coming closer to the update which I strongly believe will mess around with our phones to force a return. How can we stop this update on a device already up to date? Do far I have tried package disabler but it doesn't show system update 1 and system update 2... Any suggestions?

seriousc said:
Hello guys and gals, we are coming closer to the update which I strongly believe will mess around with our phones to force a return. How can we stop this update on a device already up to date? Do far I have tried package disabler but it doesn't show system update 1 and system update 2... Any suggestions?
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You could root your phone

LightningJay said:
You could root your phone
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I am rooted and I know usually that would help but do we know that just by being rooted this would stop the update? Would a custom rom also stop this update? How well do we know samsung's tactic here I mea if they REALLY wanted to could they ignore root or custom rom an overwrite or is this not possible?

seriousc said:
I am rooted and I know usually that would help but do we know that just by being rooted this would stop the update? Would a custom rom also stop this update? How well do we know samsung's tactic here I mea if they REALLY wanted to could they ignore root or custom rom an overwrite or is this not possible?
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I'm really not sure...
I installed a custom ROM so I would think that Samsung couldn't push an update to it, but I’m new to Samsung/Android (Note7 is my first Android) so I could be mistaken.

LightningJay said:
I'm really not sure...
I installed a custom ROM so I would think that Samsung couldn't push an update to it, but Iâ??m new to Samsung/Android (Note7 is my first Android) so I could be mistaken.
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Same. I installed Hydra-Rom (excellent rom btw) and then uninstalled all update packages with Titanium Backup. I think that'll cover it. People are pretty confident in freezing the same packages with Package Disabler if still on unrooted stock. I think rooting and a custom rom is a good idea at this point as it opens up more options if Samsung keep doing crappy things from here on in.

Karnax_ said:
Same. I installed Hydra-Rom (excellent rom btw) and then uninstalled all update packages with Titanium Backup. I think that'll cover it. People are pretty confident in freezing the same packages with Package Disabler if still on unrooted stock. I think rooting and a custom rom is a good idea at this point as it opens up more options if Samsung keep doing crappy things from here on in.
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For me one of the coolest features is the secure folder, and to my knowledge all the custom roms so far break that because they break knox. That's a big minus for me.

Karnax_ said:
Same. I installed Hydra-Rom (excellent rom btw) and then uninstalled all update packages with Titanium Backup. I think that'll cover it. People are pretty confident in freezing the same packages with Package Disabler if still on unrooted stock. I think rooting and a custom rom is a good idea at this point as it opens up more options if Samsung keep doing crappy things from here on in.
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What do you mean by "uninstalled all update packages with Titanium Backup"? Could you explain this point please.
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Chippy_boy said:
For me one of the coolest features is the secure folder, and to my knowledge all the custom roms so far break that because they break knox. That's a big minus for me.
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There is a private mode with HydraRom

LightningJay said:
What do you mean by "uninstalled all update packages with Titanium Backup"? Could you explain this point please.
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There is a private mode with HydraRom
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There's an app on the store which backs up any and everything (requires root). It also allows you to freeze/disable packages (like package disabler does) or flat out remove them from phone, which is probably overkill and can cause issues if you do it to the wrong packages.
Seeings I'll never use the updater again I opted to go with that. Hasn't caused me any issues so far and can still get OTA updates via Hydra-Rom's inbuilt OTA app if it did happen to get updated again.

Karnax_ said:
There's an app on the store which backs up any and everything (requires root). It also allows you to freeze/disable packages (like package disabler does) or flat out remove them from phone, which is probably overkill and can cause issues if you do it to the wrong packages.
Seeings I'll never use the updater again I opted to go with that. Hasn't caused me any issues so far and can still get OTA updates via Hydra-Rom's inbuilt OTA app if it did happen to get updated again.
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Could you give me the name of the packages you disabled?

Chippy_boy said:
For me one of the coolest features is the secure folder, and to my knowledge all the custom roms so far break that because they break knox. That's a big minus for me.
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Yeah pretty sure one of the devs said it'll never work sadly. It doesn't really affect me as I've never really kept much in the way of sensitive data on my phone.

LightningJay said:
There is a private mode with HydraRom
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Thanks - I missed that.
I hope this isn't too OT, but having never flashed a custom rom before, is this something achievable (or sensible to try) for a noob like me? I am computer literate, but I know very little about phone workings and roms etc. I wouldn't want to chance bricking my device.

Karnax_ said:
There's an app on the store which backs up any and everything (requires root). It also allows you to freeze/disable packages (like package disabler does) or flat out remove them from phone, which is probably overkill and can cause issues if you do it to the wrong packages.
Seeings I'll never use the updater again I opted to go with that. Hasn't caused me any issues so far and can still get OTA updates via Hydra-Rom's inbuilt OTA app if it did happen to get updated again.
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I'm tempted to try hydra but the downfall for me is I like everything to be as stock as possible. There's always a feature in custom roms which isn't added and it irritates me. What did you disable? Are you running hydra old kernel for the 100% battery or which kernel did you choose?

Chippy_boy said:
Thanks - I missed that.
I hope this isn't too OT, but having never flashed a custom rom before, is this something achievable (or sensible to try) for a noob like me? I am computer literate, but I know very little about phone workings and roms etc. I wouldn't want to chance bricking my device.
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Its pretty simple, download twrp recovery, put the newest su binary on the Sd card, flash the twrp with odin using the ap button, one in recovery allow modifications, then install Su binary, then reboot to recovery, then install hydra rom it will give you options of what you want added to the rom etc. If ever you mess up just open Samsung smart switch go to the "more" tab then click second tab and insert your model number and seriel and it does the rest for you (this is if you want to revert back to stock)

Chippy_boy said:
Thanks - I missed that.
I hope this isn't too OT, but having never flashed a custom rom before, is this something achievable (or sensible to try) for a noob like me? I am computer literate, but I know very little about phone workings and roms etc. I wouldn't want to chance bricking my device.
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I'm like you, this was my first time rooting, and flashing a costom ROM on a phone. I followed these steps and it worked fine for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/development/recovery-official-twrp-galaxy-note-7-t3446047 to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/development/rom-hydra-rom-v1-0-t3447611 Costum Rom (HydraRom) and Kernel
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seriousc said:
I'm tempted to try hydra but the downfall for me is I like everything to be as stock as possible. There's always a feature in custom roms which isn't added and it irritates me. What did you disable? Are you running hydra old kernel for the 100% battery or which kernel did you choose?
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Hydra is very very similar to stock. I didn't activate any extra features in the setup process. What I liked about it is that all the bloat wear is not installed, and phone is smother than with stock and has better battery life.
I am running the new Hydra on a replacement Note7 (green battery and 100%)

Thanks guys.

seriousc said:
I'm tempted to try hydra but the downfall for me is I like everything to be as stock as possible. There's always a feature in custom roms which isn't added and it irritates me. What did you disable? Are you running hydra old kernel for the 100% battery or which kernel did you choose?
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I'm also othe latest hydra-kernel and replacement Note. The installer is pretty comprehensive so you can retain most of the stock functionality. If you're sticking close to stock the most suitable options are labelled as such so it's reasonably straight forward.

I'm going to make a full guide with all information in including changing country code for WiFi calling etc if you bought a different network device to what you are on.

Chippy_boy said:
Thanks - I missed that.
I hope this isn't too OT, but having never flashed a custom rom before, is this something achievable (or sensible to try) for a noob like me? I am computer literate, but I know very little about phone workings and roms etc. I wouldn't want to chance bricking my device.
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I have made a full guide if your interested
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/how-to/everything-n930f-fd-rooting-flashing-t3488573/page1

seriousc said:
I have made a full guide if your interested
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/how-to/everything-n930f-fd-rooting-flashing-t3488573/page1
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Thanks - very useful.
I am still considering this since I am not sure I want to live without knox and the Samsung secure folder. I plan on returning the phone in a month or so anyway, so maybe better to simply put up with Samsung's INCREDIBLY INFURIATING battery restriction. Boy they are really p1ssing me off by doing this!

Chippy_boy said:
Thanks - very useful.
I am still considering this since I am not sure I want to live without knox and the Samsung secure folder. I plan on returning the phone in a month or so anyway, so maybe better to simply put up with Samsung's INCREDIBLY INFURIATING battery restriction. Boy they are really p1ssing me off by doing this!
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If you are returning it then out touch it. As far as secure folder goes you can get hydra rom for example it has secure folder built in. Knox though is more of a burden than useful.

Related

[rom] basic stock rom

Here's a basic stock rom in case you need it sometime
the only modifications made are the su and flash_image binaries are included and ro.secure has been turned to 0 so you can adb remount.
How to flash download the rom from here
Place rom on sdcard
wipe data and all else
then flash rom
reboot and do what you need to do
Cool, you never know when you might need this.
Thank you! Appreciated.
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Asadullah said:
Here's a basic stock rom in case you need it sometime
the only modifications made are the su and flash_image binaries are included and ro.secure has been turned to 0 so you can adb remount.
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How is this comparable to the rom listed here?
bit ly backslash fBEJnU
I want to have a known working recovery before I make any more changes to my phone. I am not exactly a newbie to this stuff (I have a Pandigital Novel that has been rooted and hacked into a nice tablet) but this is taking things to a whole new level for me and I need my phone. So I'm a bit nervous.
Of course I really wish I'd asked around some before I got to work on removing some of the stuff on it already (mostly known junkware from Virgin Mobile and stupid stuff like weblinks pretending to be native apps) after rooting it with superoneclick and installing root explorer. I need to know if your rom or the one I linked to will be able to allow me to roll back to a default installation that I can revert to if there are any issues down the road. Can you help me?
I apologize if this isn't the right place for this question. Thank you for the many mods I have seen you do already. I look forward to trying them once I have a fallback plan.
--bornagainpenguin
PS: I am a new user here so not allowed to post links. I hope you got the idea of where I was trying to point you to.
bornagainpenguin said:
How is this comparable to the rom listed here?
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PS: I am a new user here so not allowed to post links. I hope you got the idea of where I was trying to point you to.
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I'm not actually sure what your talking about but I've posted this on three different sites so far. I do that for the guys that don't go to other forums. There probably isn't any difference in the roms.
Asadullah said:
I'm not actually sure what your talking about but I've posted this on three different sites so far. I do that for the guys that don't go to other forums. There probably isn't any difference in the roms.
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I'm talking about the one by takehull posted on sdx-developers here.
Yours is not exactly stock since you added su and flash_image binaries--or does that really not matter?
Thanks for the reply.
--bornagainpenguin
PS: I appreciate that you try to post your work as far and wide as possible, it made it easier for me to find it.
PPS: Which forum is best to follw for work relating to the LG Optimus V?
For the record, I like it as is.
Saves me the trouble of having to root all over again.
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I'm not sure exactly how his is different since I didn't build it. I'm gonna guess and say his probably doesn't have the binaries in it, I'm not sure exactly how his is different since I didn't build it. I'm gonna guess and say that his doesn't have the binaries in it. I don't know. Honestly the only way to know for sure that it's stock rom is to get someone that hasn't rooted yet flash the recovery and get a backup of system. I've been waiting for someone like that to come along but ... It hasn't happened yet.
I won't tell you which forums to watch but I'm partial to xda cuz I been on here since my first android phone and it doesn't have those flash ads that pop up cover your entire screen until you click the x.
Asadullah said:
I'm not sure exactly how his is different since I didn't build it. I'm gonna guess and say that his doesn't have the binaries in it. I don't know.
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Well upon further re-reading the other thread I saw this posted:
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The only modifications this has are the two binaries that you put into /system/bin when you root. You can remove them by using Superoneclick Root and selecting "unroot."
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My only excuse is that it was late when I found the thread and I wasn't reading clearly. Going by that statement his rom and your rom basically seem to be the same things.
Asadullah said:
Honestly the only way to know for sure that it's stock rom is to get someone that hasn't rooted yet flash the recovery and get a backup of system. I've been waiting for someone like that to come along but ... It hasn't happened yet.
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Forgive my ignorance, but isn't rooting actually a requirement of obtaining the backup? Or did I misread the instructions somewhere? It'd be nice if someone at Virgin Mobile were to leak the complete rom somewhere so people had a fall back option besides trying to return the phone as bricked. (If that's even possible?)
Asadullah said:
I won't tell you which forums to watch but I'm partial to xda cuz I been on here since my first android phone and it doesn't have those flash ads that pop up cover your entire screen until you click the x.
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Sounds like a good reason to pick a forum. Not sure if I'm a member of any places that do that since I run with adblock and noscript enabled most of the time.
Any chance you could link me to written instructions on how to flash the rom you have here? I know you have video tutorials but those are harder to follow for me because I am hard of hearing. Music I can do because it is "beautiful noise" and I can usually find some lyrics to get the words of. Your video HOWTOs are not good for me because I have to strain to hear what is being said.
Thanks again for your time and patience in replying to me.
--bornagainpenguin
Thanks. Dude above me, there is a rom flashing tutorial at prepaidandroids.net. We will help you out there. Its a site that specializes in on the Optimus v itself.
(Optimus V - Contracts Suck)
Thanks for posting this. It just came in handy when I was changing my virgin phone number. Part of the process is dialing ##841446# to bring up the activation menu, but the ## prefix on CM7 does not work, apparently only a stock ROM can do that.
Any way to put it on a phone friendly site? No matter what browser I use on my phone it will not download from google docs.
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THANKS, this worked perfectly.
It's pretty much as described, a stock Opt V rom, with Super User already set up and installed.
Titanium worked on it no problem as well.
thanks a ton man! i needed to flash back to stock to get my 3G working again. if you flash a custom rom while youre between payments, you know, during down time, you may need to flash back to stock and run the activation app next time you put service on your phone.
worked like a charm. i thought my 3G was broken. im doing a happy dance now!
Anyway I can get a link to the stock rom with all the bloatware removed but not rooted?
DarkLG said:
Anyway I can get a link to the stock rom with all the bloatware removed but not rooted?
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Tell me what you consider bloatware and ill make it for you.
tvall said:
Tell me what you consider bloatware and ill make it for you.
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Well those apps that come preinstalled like the virgin radio and such .If you could add in the newest market,g+,music I would greatly appreciate it
DarkLG said:
Well those apps that come preinstalled like the virgin radio and such .If you could add in the newest market,g+,music I would greatly appreciate it
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Zipping, will flash and test then upload.
Its just de-bloated. Nothing added (yet)
http://db.tt/fsvq1JB6
Haven't tested yet. I'm lazy
tvall said:
Zipping, will flash and test then upload.
Its just de-bloated. Nothing added (yet)
http://db.tt/fsvq1JB6
Haven't tested yet. I'm lazy
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haha let me know normally I would do it myself the whole making and adding but everything java and android based don't woprk o my pc :/
ES file explorer is a great way to remove bloat from your phone

[Q] ICS 4.0.4 Calendar Widget

I'm using a Verizon Galaxy Nexus. For half a year now I've been missing every all-day event that I don't have a reminder setup for because the 4.0.2 calendar widget had a bug that wouldn't display them. There was a thread on here about it, and the bug was fixed in the next version that launched in 4.0.3. As you all know however, Verizon has been downright sinful in their slowing of updates to this "flagship Google device". So, I have yet to see all-day events on my calendar widget.
I don't want to unlock my bootloader. I don't want to root (been there, done that on my Droid. No need to try to convince me of the merits.). I don't want to use a different calendar widget. I just want the stock calendar widget to work.
Is it possible to just compile an apk for the calendar widget from 4.0.4 and install it to my phone to hold me over until the 4.0.4 OTA lands?
Or download Android Agenda Widget, which is virtually identical, fully customisable and displays all day events without a hitch
!!11oneone said:
Or download Android Agenda Widget, which is virtually identical, fully customisable and displays all day events without a hitch
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Thanks. I'll consider it in the interim.
Is there really no way to just compile the apk for the 4.0.4 calendar widget. It's open source, no?
I've switched to Android Agenda Widget to hold me over. However, this is still an interesting question in general. Can you compile individual apps, widgets, etc. from the Android sources? I'll give this a last bump and keep my fingers crossed.
jedidove said:
Thanks. I'll consider it in the interim.
Is there really no way to just compile the apk for the 4.0.4 calendar widget. It's open source, no?
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Just pulling the calendar APK from 4.0.4 and putting on 4.0.2 isn't going to work I don't think. It does a check to make sure that you're on 4.0.4 because surely the changes it has rely on other changes to the system that come w/ 4.0.4.
martonikaj said:
Just pulling the calendar APK from 4.0.4 and putting on 4.0.2 isn't going to work I don't think. It does a check to make sure that you're on 4.0.4 because surely the changes it has rely on other changes to the system that come w/ 4.0.4.
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Ah, excellent point. Thanks, I hadn't thought of that.
given no-root, what u require may not be possible. Calendar app is not an independent apk which needs two or three cooperative parts to work properly. changing calendar.apk means u must change the "adapter app" which requires root previlege
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given no-root, what u require may not be possible. Calendar app is not an independent apk which needs two or three cooperative parts to work properly. changing calendar.apk means u must change the "adapter app" which requires root previlege
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I miss the old days when applying an OTA ahead of schedule was as simple as moving the signed update.zip to the sd card, then telling the stock recovery to update with it.
jedidove said:
I miss the old days when applying an OTA ahead of schedule was as simple as moving the signed update.zip to the sd card, then telling the stock recovery to update with it.
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That's still true now... you can flash with fastboot, even easier.
martonikaj said:
That's still true now... you can flash with fastboot, even easier.
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I've been put under the impression that you need to unlock the bootloader (unless you have root) first. For me, anything that requires wiping and performing a cover up or undoing before returning a possibly damaged phone in the future is as out of the way as rooting. Am I mistaken about this?
EDIT: I should note that I've been through the whole rooting thing before, custom roms, etc. etc. but I've just grown to like the simplicity of a completely stock Nexus device that I don't need to tinker with. I just came to have too much going on to worry about updating ROM's, tweaking, flashing recoveries, and such.
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I miss the old days when applying an OTA ahead of schedule was as simple as moving the signed update.zip to the sd card, then telling the stock recovery to update with it.
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actually when I first got an android phone, I would flash third party ROMs at once so I dont have any idea of ur "old days". waiting for OTA sounds a little bit "passive" isn't it?
qwsdert4 said:
actually when I first got an android phone, I would flash third party ROMs at once so I dont have any idea of ur "old days". waiting for OTA sounds a little bit "passive" isn't it?
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I know, I know lol... Like I said, I don't wan't to make this a thread about the merits of rooting. I totally get it. Just doesn't fit what I need right now.
It looks like the OTA is set to launch soon (tomorrow?) anyway. However, I'm sure I'm going to run into some aggravation with this in the future and end up rooting to get the next BIG update (4.1, or whatever). So, just for clarification in case my last post got buried at the end of the last page, you *do* have to at least unlock your bootloader to flash signed OTAs without root, right?
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I've been put under the impression that you need to unlock the bootloader (unless you have root) first. For me, anything that requires wiping and performing a cover up or undoing before returning a possibly damaged phone in the future is as out of the way as rooting. Am I mistaken about this?
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Well yes, of course the bootloader has to be unlocked.
It really sounds like you should just wait for the OTA.
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jedidove said:
It looks like the OTA is set to launch soon (tomorrow?) anyway.
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Don't count on it. I'm sure its coming soon, but I highly doubt it'll be tomorrow.
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Well yes, of course the bootloader has to be unlocked.
It really sounds like you should just wait for the OTA.
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Okay, thanks. I'm just going to wait on this one. When Verizon undoubtedly withholds a much bigger update in the future, I'll free this phone. But for now, it's just not worth it to me.
Don't count on it. I'm sure its coming soon, but I highly doubt it'll be tomorrow.
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I know...I'm not holding my breath.
jedidove said:
I know, I know lol... Like I said, I don't wan't to make this a thread about the merits of rooting. I totally get it. Just doesn't fit what I need right now.
It looks like the OTA is set to launch soon (tomorrow?) anyway. However, I'm sure I'm going to run into some aggravation with this in the future and end up rooting to get the next BIG update (4.1, or whatever). So, just for clarification in case my last post got buried at the end of the last page, you *do* have to at least unlock your bootloader to flash signed OTAs without root, right?
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No I've never heard any requirements of rooting by any OTAs. OTAs are designed for a fully automatic, without-bother experience. OTA packages has official encryption codes in it so they do pass an locked bootloader. if cumstomers are told to unlock the bootloader before performing an official OTA, the manufacturer must be crazy
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No I've never heard any requirements of rooting by any OTAs. OTAs are designed for a fully automatic, without-bother experience. OTA packages has official encryption codes in it so they do pass an locked bootloader. if cumstomers are told to unlock the bootloader before performing an official OTA, the manufacturer must be crazy
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I thought so too...but apparently you need to unlock the bootloader to manually apply an OTA from a zip. I would love it if someone came in here and proved me wrong, because it seems asinine that Verizon has gone this far in their freedom-denying practices.
jedidove said:
I thought so too...but apparently you need to unlock the bootloader to manually apply an OTA from a zip. I would love it if someone came in here and proved me wrong, because it seems asinine that Verizon has gone this far in their freedom-denying practices.
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Its not Verizon. Its the exact same way on the GSM model. You need to unlock the bootloader to do Fastboot flash commands, or need to be rooted (which requires unlocked bootloader) to put it in the cache and update manually.
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Its not Verizon. Its the exact same way on the GSM model. You need to unlock the bootloader to do Fastboot flash commands, or need to be rooted (which requires unlocked bootloader) to put it in the cache and update manually.
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I realize the subtleties, but I'm making a broad claim about the practice among other phones as well. Verizon has stood out in extreme support of locked bootloaders to the FCC and others, has made unlocking a bootloader a "violation" of their terms, and has undoubtedly pressured manufactures to lock bootloaders for Verizon bound phones. They certainly don't get away scott-free in my book when it comes to this topic.
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I thought so too...but apparently you need to unlock the bootloader to manually apply an OTA from a zip. I would love it if someone came in here and proved me wrong, because it seems asinine that Verizon has gone this far in their freedom-denying practices.
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It seems that I didn't quite get u (before this post) because my mother tongue is not English. yes u need to unlock the bootloader before manually apply an OTA package.
returning to the calendar thing, have u set up a default event notifying method in calendar? or try to reset to factory and see if the problem still exists. didn't encounter this issue before
qwsdert4 said:
It seems that I didn't quite get u (before this post) because my mother tongue is not English. yes u need to unlock the bootloader before manually apply an OTA package.
returning to the calendar thing, have u set up a default event notifying method in calendar? or try to reset to factory and see if the problem still exists. didn't encounter this issue before
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Ah, np.
Yes. It's a well documented issue. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391191 Just have to wait for the *long* overdue update. For now, Agenda Widget is doing fine. I'll probably switch back though when I get 4.0.4.

Recommendation: root and ROM?

Hello all. I just ordered a Note 2 which I've yet to receive. My goal is to have a rooted, stable running phone. I've read through LOTS of threads and am trying to figure out where to start.
Is this the best method to root or should I not accept the latest update and go another method? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118348
Should I flash a ROM or just run stock. If ROM, any recommendations?
Sorry for the noob questions...
First of all which Note 2 do you have? N7100 (international) or the carrier ones?
Thank you for your reply. I bought the Verizon model.
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I would not recommend you to flash a rom if you need a stable phone.
My Note 2 is the only Android device I've owned that I didn't feel compelled to root.
My suggestion is that you run in bone stock a couple of weeks, and then see if you feel you really need to root.
Regards,
Dave
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I would not recommend you to flash a rom if you need a stable phone.
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Flashed my Note 2 within 30 mins of buying it. Stable as a rock, no problems whatsoever.
Flashing roms doesn't lead to instability. Over tweaking perhaps does. Personally I like to run ad blockers, change my dpi and personalise my interface and remove bloatware...
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liquidguru said:
Flashed my Note 2 within 30 mins of buying it. Stable as a rock, no problems whatsoever.
Flashing roms doesn't lead to instability. Over tweaking perhaps does. Personally I like to run ad blockers, change my dpi and personalise my interface and remove bloatware...
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That sounds good. What did/do you use?
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That sounds good. What did/do you use?
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I use monx's Rom.. you need to root first. Look up the necessary posts on rooting, read them then read them again. Backup. Read some more.... the process can seem intimidating at first, but you can get plenty of help on these forums. And go slowly and don't forget to backup frequently, so if anything goes wrong you can get back to a state where it was working.
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liquidguru said:
I use monx's Rom.. you need to root first. Look up the necessary posts on rooting, read them then read them again. Backup. Read some more.... the process can seem intimidating at first, but you can get plenty of help on these forums. And go slowly and don't forget to backup frequently, so if anything goes wrong you can get back to a state where it was working.
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Thank you. I've now rooted a couple phones but was wondering what's the best way forward considering the latest updates and locked boot loader? Is the link I posted above the recommended course of action or should I use CF-auto root or other?
yeah flashing means you will most likely void your warranty. not a smart act for a noob like me, at least!
liquidguru said:
I use monx's Rom.. you need to root first. Look up the necessary posts on rooting, read them then read them again. Backup. Read some more.... the process can seem intimidating at first, but you can get plenty of help on these forums. And go slowly and don't forget to backup frequently, so if anything goes wrong you can get back to a state where it was working.
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Also, what recovery is working for you/this phone to flash ROM?
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Also, what recovery is working for you/this phone to flash ROM?
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Personally I use PhilZ Touch 3 Recovery, which works perfectly for me, the roms I've flashed and all the zip files I've used. Instructions for rooting are in post 2. It also works with exFat, so my 64GB SDcard has no problems.
I also use the Perseus kernel, which works well for me.
As was mentioned a couple of posts back, all this does indeed void your warranty. Again for me, this is a non-issue. I'm a brit, living in Indonesia, bought the phone in HK, so any warranty is pretty useless to me.
Have fun
I'm a new user as well and have been fiddling with my n1700 for a few weeks now. Personally I think I know what I'm doing but like the guy said you have to keep on reading on the forums. I flashed Android Revolution HD on my phone 2 days ago. Pretty happy with it. I might flash it again cause im tweaking my battery but it's a pretty stable rom.
liquidguru said:
Personally I use PhilZ Touch 3 Recovery, which works perfectly for me, the roms I've flashed and all the zip files I've used. Instructions for rooting are in post 2. It also works with exFat, so my 64GB SDcard has no problems.
I also use the Perseus kernel, which works well for me.
As was mentioned a couple of posts back, all this does indeed void your warranty. Again for me, this is a non-issue. I'm a brit, living in Indonesia, bought the phone in HK, so any warranty is pretty useless to me.
Have fun
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Thnx! I looked at that thread and wonder what this means: "TL;DR: before flashing aside from known issues in the second post.?" Also, I looked through post 2 and didn't see where the install instructions were located. I see there are zip and tar files; I'm assuming the user can choose between flashing it with ODIN or CWM?
LiquidGuru,
Any chance you could point me to DPI thread? My initial browsing and searches have turned up empty.
Thnx!
grimloktt said:
LiquidGuru,
Any chance you could point me to DPI thread? My initial browsing and searches have turned up empty.
Thnx!
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Changing the DPI on a stock based ROM takes a little work. Initially it's very easy. You edit the build.prop (I use ROM Toolbox Pro). Look for the two instances of ro.sf.lcd_density and change them to your desired DPI (I use 240) and reboot...that's it!! (if only is was that simple...)
Unfortunately not everything likes to play nice at 240DPI, especially the sammy keyboard, camera, multiwindow and dialer. Sooooo..... bala_gamer has made some mods of these apps that you can flash (see this post). I also use the Xposed Framework with the Xposed App Settings mod which allows you to set the DPI for individual apps (there are also many other useful apps that work with the Xposed Framework)...
I worked it all out from reading those threads, asking a few questions. Everything is pretty straightforward, just take your time, backup and make sure your battery is fairly well charged before you started flashing I love my N2, love being at 240DPI and everything set up the way I need it.
Liquid,
Is this the ROM you went with? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2070459
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Liquid,
Is this the ROM you went with? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2070459
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No, that's the CM10 one. [I went with this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33577075 one, the TW based one, which retains all the s-pen etc functionality
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liquidguru said:
No, that's the CM10 one. [I went with this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33577075 one, the TW based one, which retains all the s-pen etc functionality
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Have you compared against the following ROMs and noted any key differences?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1915036
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2060389
I use stock ROM + root + perseus kernel + XposedFramework.
I don't recommend stock based custom ROMs because most of the time the same features can be archieved with more flexibility using XposedFramework plugins.
As for AOSP-based ROMs such as CyanogenMod, I didn't try these on my Note 2 because it means losing many Samsung features that I like. Also, CyanogenMod for Note 2 is still in development.

Android Upgrade / Root?

Hello,
I've got a Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 that I bought during the few months when it was the top of the line small tablet from Samsung (before the S series came out). Since it seems clear that Samsung has abandoned it and it won't get an Android update, I want to see what it'll take to upgrade to at least Lollipop. I'm pretty tech savy, but I've never tried to do anything like this with Android and I'm not at all sure where to start.
I've started to read the thread on rooting, but I quickly got a bit lost as I don't understand the terminology.
My goal would be to simply get to stock Lollipop or Marshmallow and have a stable, functional tablet that I don't have to tweak or mess with much. I'd also like to be able to go back if it proves too buggy. Is that feasible, or is rooting plus upgrading pretty much something that will require constant maintenance and tweaking? If it is possible, can someone point me to a how to for complete newbies?
Rooting will not help you upgrade your tablet to Lollipop or Marshmallow as they aren't available for your device. You might want to google "what is rooting" and find out what it does before proceeding.
The only thing you could do to get L or MM is install a custom ROM such as this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...5-1-x-cyanogenmod-13-0-nightlies-tab-t3256093
CafeKampuchia said:
Rooting will not help you upgrade your tablet to Lollipop or Marshmallow as they aren't available for your device. You might want to google "what is rooting" and find out what it does before proceeding.
The only thing you could do to get L or MM is install a custom ROM such as this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...5-1-x-cyanogenmod-13-0-nightlies-tab-t3256093
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What makes you thin that his device is not have any Third Party ROMs (i.e CyanogenMod)? FYI this is the Tab Pro Fourm, and his Device should damned well be able to get to Lollipop or Marshmallow. e.g. CM12.1, or CM13.
As for rooting which you have to do at the start. Will most likely send him back to SamFirmware's where he'll need to likely first downgrade his Firmware to one that has a rootable exploit. i.e. a 'BOC1' ROM for the T325. (Which is the version I have). Through Odin (Samsung's Android Firmware Windows PC flashing Software). Then run something like the CFRoot App to get root.
NOTE: THIS WILL THROW YOUR KNOX FLAG!
This means that you'll never be able to use Knox services on that Device ever again. It will also throw the Warranty Flag as well Alerting Samsung that the Firmware was tampered with. For the moment (As I gather there is no known way to reset either of these Flags.) Not that this should stop you from installing either CM12.1 Lollipop (Seems to have lost support to) CM13 Marshmallow which is currently on a nightly release.
So the better question to ask is which T32x does Op even have? The T320 (Wi-Fi) The most common, and cheapest version has the greatest support. Where as the T325 (LTE), and T321 (3G) versions seem to be leaving behind. though even these are currently well into Marshmallow, and like with most ROMs there are some small bugs. But, on the whole My Device is more or less working as it should be.
Ichijoe said:
What makes you thin that his device is not have any Third Party ROMs (i.e CyanogenMod)? FYI this is the Tab Pro Fourm, and his Device should damned well be able to get to Lollipop or Marshmallow. e.g. CM12.1, or CM13.
As for rooting which you have to do at the start. Will most likely send him back to SamFirmware's where he'll need to likely first downgrade his Firmware to one that has a rootable exploit. i.e. a 'BOC1' ROM for the T325. (Which is the version I have). Through Odin (Samsung's Android Firmware Windows PC flashing Software). Then run something like the CFRoot App to get root.
NOTE: THIS WILL THROW YOUR KNOX FLAG!
This means that you'll never be able to use Knox services on that Device ever again. It will also throw the Warranty Flag as well Alerting Samsung that the Firmware was tampered with. For the moment (As I gather there is no known way to reset either of these Flags.) Not that this should stop you from installing either CM12.1 Lollipop (Seems to have lost support to) CM13 Marshmallow which is currently on a nightly release.
So the better question to ask is which T32x does Op even have? The T320 (Wi-Fi) The most common, and cheapest version has the greatest support. Where as the T325 (LTE), and T321 (3G) versions seem to be leaving behind. though even these are currently well into Marshmallow, and like with most ROMs there are some small bugs. But, on the whole My Device is more or less working as it should be.
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1) I read the OP. He said, "stock Lollipop or Marshmallow."
2) You don't have to root TouchWiz to install a custom ROM. All you have to do is install TWRP, but it doesn't matter because of #1 above.
Well yes if he wanted Stock then he'd be outta luck. But that is not how I read it. I read it that he has accepted the fact that Samsung have left us in the lurch concerning any future updates.
That's how I read it, so the question follows in how to install a Custom ROM. Granted it should be possible to install TWRP v. 3.0.1-0, though Odin, and then the Device appropriate ROM. It should go without saying that the T320, and T325 are not the same Device, even if they are both collectively known as Galaxy Tab Pro's 8.4. As such it would be upnto the owner to know which version he might need.
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Well yes if he wanted Stock then he'd be outta luck. But that is not how I read it.
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The problem, is folks really need to stop using the word "stock" as it really doesn't mean jack. Or at the least, means so many different things to different people, as to be basically meaningless. I would take stock to mean, what belongs on the device per the manufacturer, so that would be Kitkat TouchWiz in this case. To others (and probably what the OP is getting at) is a "pure" unskinned Google experience like Nexus. But seeing as Nexus is limited to such a small number of devices, I don't personally feel you can consider that "stock". CM is AOSP based, and at one time considered by many to be close to a pure AOSP experience. But those days are long gone, and there are so many proprietary CM features and apps now, you can't even begin to consider this "stock" by any means.
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_salguod said:
My goal would be to simply get to stock Lollipop or Marshmallow and have a stable, functional tablet that I don't have to tweak or mess with much. I'd also like to be able to go back if it proves too buggy. Is that feasible, or is rooting plus upgrading pretty much something that will require constant maintenance and tweaking?
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What you are asking for is CM12 or CM13 (LP or MM) or one of the CM based ROMs. Those are really your only choice when it comes to anything past KK on this device. The CM ROMs are are very stable at this point. You might run into an obscure bug, but to be honest, its less laggy and overall a much better experience than the official Samsung TouchWiz ROM. And if you want to be free of Samsung bloat, CM definitely does that as well.
Tweak or maintain? You don't have to do anything after flashing the ROM, if you don't want to. You can decide to update to newer nightly CM builds from time to time, but that is completely optional. And to be honest, even CM13 is so stable at this point, that the nightly updates don't really change much of anything.
Go back? That's a breeze. Just do a backup in TWRP custom recovery before flashing a ROM, and you can restore to that backup (basically a snapshot of your existing configuration).
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If it is possible, can someone point me to a how to for complete newbies?
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Honestly, just searching and reading are your best friend. You'll learn a lot more that way, than folk spoon-feeding you the info. The process isn't really all that hard. There may be a lot of esoteric lingo, but you can easily Google or use the XDA site search to find out what those terms mean. And once you've gone through the process, you'll likely be happy for the learning experience.
XDA is a wealth of information, for those willing to take the time to learn and search. All the answers you want are here in one form or other. Difficult to wade through at first, I'll agree with that. But all of us here had to go through the same thing at one time or other.
Its really hard to help someone when they say is "I'm a newb, tell me how to do this". Make a lot more sense for you to just dive in, then come back here with some specific questions, which we will gladly answer.
it would help to know what version OS you're running and the build #.
I rooted my tablet late last year (bought it in May 2015). Wasn't hard to do after some reading. Knox is still good too...1 yr warranty will be over soon.
Thanks all, I appreciate it. I've been doing some more digging to try to learn what everything means so I might know what I'm talking about. I started with the Lifehacker rooting guide (I can't post links yet, add this to lifehacker dot com: /5789397/the-always-up-to-date-guide-to-rooting-any-android-phone) and their how to flash a ROM guide (/how-to-flash-a-rom-to-your-android-phone-30885281) as well. Let me know if those aren't good places to start. I've also read through the CyanogenMod how to for the 8.4, which seems pretty thorough.
I definitely appreciate the push to search and learn, but it can feel like drinking from a firehose. Most "how to" posts are written assuming the reader knows the terminology and every post I read means Googling a half a dozen terms to understand it. For example, I have no idea what the Knox flag is or why I'd care if it got triggered. I don't care about the warranty flag, I'm past the 1 year mark so it doesn't really matter, right?
When I said "stock" I was referring to stock out of the box Android, not stock Samsung. Stock Samsung means staying with KitKat which I'd rather not do. My phone is a Motorola Droid Turbo, which I think is pretty close to stock Android Lollipop, so that I'm familiar with that.
However, I think I'm seeing that going stock Android isn't necessarily possible, or rather, other ROMs are easier to come by. Cyanogenmod seems to be the most popular and sounds very stable, I'll likely try that.
So, I don't need to root in order to flash a new ROM. What's unclear is do I need to do anything special to make sure I can go back to the out of the box Samsung KK that I have now in case I really screw it up or just don't like it and want to go back? Will the process of installing Cyanogenmod wipe my device (apps, files, accounts, data, etc.?
Any other surprises that a guy who has never done this might want to know before going in?
Thanks again for your patience and help.
I forgot to mention, I've got the wifi model, T-320. It's running 4.4.2, build number KOT49H.T320UEU1AOC1.
Well you have a number of choices for your T320 (WiFi), Sadly nonmof those stock. Since Samsung has never seen fit to ever giving us one. For me the Samsung (e.g. Vender ROMs), were always the 'Stock' ROMs. 'Pure' ROMs (al-la Nexus), are clearly Custom ROMs.
The best, and quickest way to learn how to update from Stock to Custom would be to hit up YouTube for a few short Vids on the subject.
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I've been doing some more digging to try to learn what everything means so I might know what I'm talking about. I started with the Lifehacker rooting guide (I can't post links yet, add this to lifehacker dot com: /5789397/the-always-up-to-date-guide-to-rooting-any-android-phone) and their how to flash a ROM guide (/how-to-flash-a-rom-to-your-android-phone-30885281) as well. Let me know if those aren't good places to start. I've also read through the CyanogenMod how to for the 8.4, which seems pretty thorough.
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Those aren't bad general guides, to just introduce you to the basic concepts and terms. Just keep in mind that every different Android device has its nuances, which vary by manufacturer and over time (from one device to another - even from the same manufacturer). So you'll be referring back to Tab Pro 8.4 specific guides eventually.
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I have no idea what the Knox flag is or why I'd care if it got triggered. I don't care about the warranty flag, I'm past the 1 year mark so it doesn't really matter, right?
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Basically, if you don't know what the Knox flag is, then it probably doesn't matter.
The longer story, Knox is a enterprise mobile solution made by Samsung. If you company doesn't use Knox (and you don't use your device for work), you don't need it. The huge majority of folks will never need Knox or want it.
You're right, that if the warranty is expired, the warranty flag doesn't matter. And honestly, I rooted my device while it still had a valid warranty. I'd rather have a device that I can use how I wish, and install what software I want (especially if Samsung isn't going to support it with updates) and warranty is a secondary concern, at most.
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What's unclear is do I need to do anything special to make sure I can go back to the out of the box Samsung KK that I have now in case I really screw it up or just don't like it and want to go back?
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Once you install TWRP custom recovery, you can make a backup of the current Samsung TouchWiz KK ROM; and revert to that if needed or desired.
But honestly, you won't want to go back. CM runs faster and smoother, with no Samsung bloat. You won't want to go back to the crappy TouchWiz ROM, that is 2 generations (Android versions) obsolete.
But it is a good idea to have a backup, in case flashing CM doesn't go right the first time, and the device won't boot.
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Will the process of installing Cyanogenmod wipe my device (apps, files, accounts, data, etc.?
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You will absolute want to wipe user data when installing CM. Not doing so will likely cause major bugs and/or failure to boot. This is the general rule whenever flashing a new ROM. Although for similar ROMs (such as minor CM updates) you can try to keep user data. This is called a "dirty flash".
You can backup a lot of your data before flashing CM:
Apps: After root, you can use the app Titanium Backup (highly recommended) to backup apps and app data
Accounts: Titanium can backup a lot of this stuff, as well. Depends on what you are talking about, specifically.
Files: just move them to SD card or your computer. Or use a cloud solution (there are many)
You should always be backing up your data, anyway, if its important to you.
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I forgot to mention, I've got the wifi model, T-320. It's running 4.4.2, build number KOT49H.T320UEU1AOC1.
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Same firmware as what I had prior to rooting it.
The cyanogen articles give a good rundown on how to install it. The only thing that I'm not sure about is whether getting the sdcard to be formatted/recognized is still an issue or not.
When last I checked back in Feb. it seemed like that was still unresolved. I have a 64gb card and getting it to be read by CM13 was absolutely critical. So any move to CM13 was postponed.
Running Kitkat is fine for me...after rooting it, I uninstalled/froze a lot of software incl. a lot of Samsung crap that was eating the battery. The battery is my only complaint with the tablet.
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The cyanogen articles give a good rundown on how to install it. The only thing that I'm not sure about is whether getting the sdcard to be formatted/recognized is still an issue or not.
When last I checked back in Feb. it seemed like that was still unresolved. I have a 64gb card and getting it to be read by CM13 was absolutely critical. So any move to CM13 was postponed.
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The SD card issue on CM13 was solved in early March. It was holding me back as well (stayed on CM12.1) , until I saw it was solved. Now I've been using CM13 for over a month. My 64GB card works great with CM13.
AndroidPrince1 said:
Running Kitkat is fine for me...after rooting it, I uninstalled/froze a lot of software incl. a lot of Samsung crap that was eating the battery. The battery is my only complaint with the tablet.
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If you flash CM, you'll see its a lot smoother and snappier, especially on the home screens, app drawer, etc.
Thanks all, I plan on biting the bullet some time soon. Too much other stuff on my plate (like car repairs, etc.) so it'll have to wait for a bit. I'll check back in when I do. I'm looking forward to it.
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The SD card issue on CM13 was solved in early March. It was holding me back as well (stayed on CM12.1) , until I saw it was solved. Now I've been using CM13 for over a month. My 64GB card works great with CM13.
If you flash CM, you'll see its a lot smoother and snappier, especially on the home screens, app drawer, etc.
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Good to know on the sdcard thing...looks like I'll have to read up again on how to do.
Thanks for the note.
_salguod said:
What's unclear is do I need to do anything special to make sure I can go back to the out of the box Samsung KK that I have now in case I really screw it up or just don't like it and want to go back?
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BTW, you can always restore your device to 100% stock (Samsung) by downloading the firmware from sammobile.com/firmwares and flashing it using Odin. If you get into trouble, this will help get you back out.
But since flashing CM13 nightlies is relatively easy, I don't think you'll have any serious trouble, just the normal learning curve.
I've had my SM-T320 on Cyanogenmod since the day after I bought it in 2014 and never looked back :good:
CafeKampuchia said:
BTW, you can always restore your device to 100% stock (Samsung) by downloading the firmware from sammobile.com/firmwares and flashing it using Odin. If you get into trouble, this will help get you back out.
But since flashing CM13 nightlies is relatively easy, I don't think you'll have any serious trouble, just the normal learning curve.
I've had my SM-T320 on Cyanogenmod since the day after I bought it in 2014 and never looked back :good:
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I don't see any US firmwares on the sammobile.com site. Am I looking in the wrong place?
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I don't see any US firmwares on the sammobile.com site. Am I looking in the wrong place?
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Cellular South is the US firmware for some reason.
I'm trying to load the latest CM 13.0 nightly this morning and running into issues.
I'm following the install instructions on the CM website and the loading of a custom recovery is failing at step 7. I get the start of the blue bar on my tablet, but I get this error in the command prompt:
Downloading device's PIT file...
ERROR: Failed to send request to end PIT file transfer!
ERROR: Failed to download PIT file!
Ending session...
ERROR: Failed to send end session packet!
Releasing device interface...​
I've tried twice with the the factory cable and a third time with an alternate cable same result.
How do I fix that?
I should mention that I'm working on a Windows 10 computer.

[A5 2017] to root or not to root

Hi guys,
Just came from a rooted OnePlus X and looking for some advice.
One of the first things I noticed using the A5 are the ads. Being used to no ads this is becoming annoying.
So I'm considering the pros and cons of rooting.
Pros are obvious but I might miss some cons.
Knox will be tripped when installing Trwp. Besides being tripped, are there any downsides? Will it have effect when reverting to stock?
I owned a Tab10 which would show a big yellow triangle when booting. Is this still the case?
Triangle away is no longer an option
Any other cons I'm missing except for the warranty?
You can use DNS66 from F-Droid to block ads without rooting (it uses a local on-device VPN connection to accomplish this).
lejohn said:
Hi guys,
Just came from a rooted OnePlus X and looking for some advice.
One of the first things I noticed using the A5 are the ads. Being used to no ads this is becoming annoying.
So I'm considering the pros and cons of rooting.
Pros are obvious but I might miss some cons.
Knox will be tripped when installing Trwp. Besides being tripped, are there any downsides? Will it have effect when reverting to stock?
I owned a Tab10 which would show a big yellow triangle when booting. Is this still the case?
Triangle away is no longer an option
Any other cons I'm missing except for the warranty?
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Once Knox tripped there is no return... warranty will be lost.
What I did is to have root and just install AdHell2 (https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/themes/adhell-2-rootless-ad-blocking-t3663559)...
jolas said:
Once Knox tripped there is no return... warranty will be lost.
What I did is to have root and just install AdHell2 (https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/themes/adhell-2-rootless-ad-blocking-t3663559)...
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Thanks, I'll give it a try.
What ads are we talking about? I haven't seen any so far.
Sn0w0nS said:
What ads are we talking about? I haven't seen any so far.
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Any ads, in any application. He wants to use a low level domain filter to stop apps and webpages from reaching their ad service providers.
I'm new on Samsung. Got A520W on Nougat a few days ago and considering root too. I read people using Magdsk but not sure if it will work on Nougat. Reason I wanna root is to install Xposed, custom kernel and recovery.
kenship said:
I'm new on Samsung. Got A520W on Nougat a few days ago and considering root too. I read people using Magdsk but not sure if it will work on Nougat. Reason I wanna root is to install Xposed, custom kernel and recovery.
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It will work. U just need to flash twrp through odin a install magisk. Before that,check if u have oem unlock.
BlasterSK said:
It will work. U just need to flash twrp through odin a install magisk. Before that,check if u have oem unlock.
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I come from LG so I'm new to Samsung. I used app to root and install superuser then used flashify to install TWRP.
OEM Unlock is already set to On.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I use magisk to root, then install TWRP using odin.
Dont worry, im coming from lg device aswell.
Before the root, consider if u want really to root your device, because u will loose your warranty.
U need to download zip file of magisk 13.3,put it to the storage/sd card and then flash twrp through odin. Once u did that, u will flash magisk .zip file in twrp.
Complete tutorial here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sa...ficial-nougat-release-download-guide-t3654413
BlasterSK said:
Dont worry, im coming from lg device aswell.
Before the root, consider if u want really to root your device, because u will loose your warranty.
U need to download zip file of magisk 13.3,put it to the storage/sd card and then flash twrp through odin. Once u did that, u will flash magisk .zip file in twrp.
Complete tutorial here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sa...ficial-nougat-release-download-guide-t3654413
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Thanks! I did some research today and finally come to know what odin, magisk is about.
I'll certainly consider the pros and cons before making the move. For now I don't see kernel for nougat yet so maybe root is not most important. Xposed is another one but only to allow youtube background play, other than that, maybe some actions provided by secure setting and ad block. Thanks for the guide!
kenship said:
Thanks! I did some research today and finally come to know what odin, magisk is about.
I'll certainly consider the pros and cons before making the move. For now I don't see kernel for nougat yet so maybe root is not most important. Xposed is another one but only to allow youtube background play, other than that, maybe some actions provided by secure setting and ad block. Thanks for the guide!
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No problem mate. Glad to help u.
I dont think its worth to lose warranty because of the root. But its everybody decision. On the other hand,root is a good thing and it will let u do whatever u want with the device. If u need AdBlock,i can reccomend u Adhell2,which is rootless ad blocker and it is working fine. Atleast for me. And if u meant custom nougat kernel,then there is a one.
Link for the kernel: https://forum.xda-developers.com/samsung-a-series-2017/development/kernel-alphabet-kernel-t3697372
Wow thanks! Will take a look. On warranty, I thought Odin can take me back to stock firmware and therefore allowing OTA and for warranty, am I wrong?
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Wow thanks! Will take a look. On warranty, I thought Odin can take me back to stock firmware and therefore allowing OTA and for warranty, am I wrong?
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You could put it back to stock and get OTAs, yes.
But when you unlock the bootloader it trips a physical circuit inside the device which makes it impossible to trick Samsung into giving you warranty. There's a tiny fuse that burns out when you unlock the bootloader that prevents you from ever changing the unlock status back to official.
lejohn said:
Hi guys,
Just came from a rooted OnePlus X and looking for some advice..........
Triangle away is no longer an option
Any other cons I'm missing except for the warranty?
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My advice don't root. Not yet. Give it at least a year.
I was a flashoholic/rootaholic. Not anymore. Recently bought a5 2017 (dual sim). My primary reasons for rooting(previous devices) were themes+viper4android+firewall. Nowadays we have almost at par (90%) solutions without root. Another reason was to save some battery life. But our a5 2017 is pretty good at it by default. Also dont forget secure folder+samsung pay+ any future updates or similar. This r my opinions. BUT you may have different priorities. Thanks for reading.
Looks we have similar requirements for root. But I do not want root to brick functionalities like you mentioned.
Theming was not available in LineageOS but I have an S7 from work which has a nice theming engine which made me choose for the A5 12107 as personal phone.
Only thing I was missing was the ad blocking. AdHell seems to do a nice job on this so for now no need to root. If it could also block the youtube adds it would be perfect.
Did you tackle this?
matesurano said:
My advice don't root. Not yet. Give it at least a year.
I was a flashoholic/rootaholic. Not anymore. Recently bought a5 2017 (dual sim). My primary reasons for rooting(previous devices) were themes+viper4android+firewall. Nowadays we have almost at par (90%) solutions without root. Another reason was to save some battery life. But our a5 2017 is pretty good at it by default. Also dont forget secure folder+samsung pay+ any future updates or similar. This r my opinions. BUT you may have different priorities. Thanks for reading.
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Absolutely agree with every word! I was also flashoholic/rootaholic before. But A5 2017's firmware is bug-free (for me), that's why I don't need to do those root-thingz. For blocking some Ads on webpages I use Samsung Browser with extenisons:
Adblock Fast
AdBlock for Samsung Browser
Adblock Plus for Samsung browser
AdClear for Samsung Internet
Crystal
All these blockers are working at the same time, so if one doesn't filter Ad, another in order does. But of course, if someone wants to block in-app Ads, root is necesarry
lejohn said:
Looks we have similar requirements for root.Only thing I was missing was the ad blocking. AdHell seems to do a nice job on this so for now no need to root. If it could also block the youtube adds it would be perfect.
Did you tackle this?
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Well m not that much into YouTube. But the channels i browse are mostly ad free. But i think you might wanna check out adhell 2( never tried the adblocking part). It needs Samsung knox sdk license( easy to get...just follow google search). Apart from system wide adblocker it has a package disabler too. Also i heard about an app called youtube auto ad skip or something like that.....don't recall the name. Tell us how it goes.
I too will probably wait until warranty is gone. I'm able to freeze most of the apps that I don't use. Will be nice if able to ad block without using VPN. The Xposed Youtube background play is good but I guess I can live w/o it.
the root is not necessary for block the add in ALL app's.
you just install blokada ,the best adblocker NON ROOT!
for the app,search in xda or in google

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