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I know the S5 has been tested to jave the best "sunlight / ambient light readable" screen of any Android phone.
Can someone tell me how the M8 compares to it, or how it compares to the Note 3 phone which was the previous champ for how easy it was to read/view in direct sunlight? The Note 3 was much better than the M7 apparently.
And blew away the S4 (which is my current phone and it sucks in sunlight).
EDIT: Nevermind, a quick google search gave me the answer to the Note 3 comparison. And the M8 nits of 490 are comparable to the S5's normal nits, but the S5 is capable of higher nit bursts which = better sunlight readability if the screen has less glare.
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-One-M8-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3_id3648
Utilizing different display technologies, they each have their strong attributes. Comparing the colors they produce, the Note 3’s oversaturated tones have an iridescent glow that instantly gets our attention, but the colors aren’t nearly as accurate as the colors produced by the HTC One M8’s LCD-based display. Viewing angles, though, go to the Note 3 mainly because it retains its vividness more. However, when it comes to outdoor visibility, the stronger 490 nits of brightness from the One M8’s panel is more visible than the weaker 360 nits of brightness pumped out by the Note 3.
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Wow, there is conflicting info out there.
http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/smartphones/htc-one-m8.aspx
At 460 lux (447 nits), the HTC One M8's display is brighter than the average smartphone, which reached just 405 lux. The LG G2 topped out at 351 lux, while the original HTC One hit 375 lux. Samsung's Galaxy S4 and the iPhone 5s, however, proved brighter than the One M8, hitting 480 lux and 500 lux, respectively.
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The Moto E4 Plus has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
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Pretty decent for the price $99 USD for Verizon Version and $2.29 to unlock for any carrier
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I don't know why a lot of YouTube reviews complain about this screen. I guess they review high end phones, so coming from a million ppi to 300 is going to be a shock, but if you stick to the low to mid end phones all the time like me, and get your hands on this phone, you will love it. I see no pixels, no distortion, and have no issues with 720p. It's very clear, crisp, bright, and readable. Overall it's a beautiful screen. Moto did a great job.
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I don't know why a lot of YouTube reviews complain about this screen. I guess they review high end phones, so coming from a million ppi to 300 is going to be a shock, but if you stick to the low to mid end phones all the time like me, and get your hands on this phone, you will love it. I see no pixels, no distortion, and have no issues with 720p. It's very clear, crisp, bright, and readable. Overall it's a beautiful screen. Moto did a great job.
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Here in the UK, a Moto E4 Plus will set you back £119/$150, (3GB mediatek,) and something like the Huawei P8 Lite 2017 is £129/$165. The P8 is rocking 1080p, is brighter, and has deeper blacks with better viewing angles. When you put both side by side, the E4 looks like a screen from 2015. If the E4 plus was 5", 720p might be OK. At 5.5" however, the low resolution really shows.
I think that the importance of screen resolution depends on how you use your phone. I travel a lot on business and having the extra battery life is more important to me than 1080p. But then my usage is phone for calls, GPS, Skype, Slack and Discord for communications. The higher resolution wouldn't improve any of those.
I use a tablet or laptop for everything else.
The Xiaomi Mi A3 has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
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If you have enough time, you can actually count all the pixels by naked eye.
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If you have enough time, you can actually count all the pixels by naked eye.
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Dont forget the price of the phone.
For the price all are very good.
You took more than you pay for me.
papsr6 said:
Dont forget the price of the phone.
For the price all are very good.
You took more than you pay for me.
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Ya for the price this is a really good phone, the display is the only con but u won't notice it untill u compare it with a full hd panel this aside what u get is a amoled panel and a indisplay finger print scanner
It's a good display knowing it has samoled display , but yes the pixels are visible
I'm coming from an old samsung galaxy j3 (720p) and to be honnest I am NOT disapointed, and no, I cannot count the pixels by naked eye.
It's an amazing phone for its price, and I'm glad I bought it.
Agreed, some people are exaggerating the pixel counting thing
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I'm coming from an old samsung galaxy j3 (720p) and to be honnest I am NOT disapointed, and no, I cannot count the pixels by naked eye.
It's an amazing phone for its price, and I'm glad I bought it.
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Some people are really blowing things out of proportions. I bet they don't even have this phone / didn't use it for long. They just read some BS on the internet about how awful that display was & now they are crying foul over it on this forum
I'm coming from Mi 8 SE, which has a HDR10 capable super amoled panel. Obviously, it will be foolish to compare Mi A3's panel with that phone but I must say, A3's display rather surprised me. The colors might be over saturated for some people but honestly, it looks quite good. And no, I really couldn't see the pixels. Well, the pixels are kinda visible, specially when you're trying to read an article with white fonts against a dark background Still, the AMOLED panel is good.
(Hey Xiaomi, this doesn't mean you should start this ridiculous trend of putting low res screens on your mid-range devices Especially the Mi A series, which happens to have a huge fan following. Stupid move)
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The Xiaomi Mi A3 has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
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Any one noticed warm display ? (Yellowish tones)
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Any one noticed warm display ? (Yellowish tones)
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Mine has yellowish tone too. It's not unbearable or anything, but the display is on the warmer side. I know some people like it cool, but I don't mind a display which appears warm. I find it easier on my eyes, especially at night.
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Mine has yellowish tone too. It's not unbearable or anything, but the display is on the warmer side. I know some people like it cool, but I don't mind a display which appears warm. I find it easier on my eyes, especially at night.
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Agreed with you on soothing warm tones.
I guess I will keep it like that
Display is good and clear. but you can see the pixels with naked ayes if you're close enough...
Night light is also not usable, even on the lowest setting it is too much red/warm. I just want to make the display like 5-10% warmer, and not go into red berserk mode.
If you go into developer mode, does picture color mode or simulated color space help?
I got the phone for my wife, was playing with it for a few hours and these are my findings and comparison with Mi A1:
- A3 has warm tones, A1 is very cool (haven't noticed it before the comparison)
- night light is fine at minimum intensity or just a tad above, definitely not a red berserk. A1 has strong blue hue even with night light (haven't noticed it before).
- A3 has clearly visible pixels, it's a huge downgrade compared to A1 side by side. BUT, after a while, I did not really mind the pixelation of A3 that much (humans can get used probably to anything).
- without my correction glasses, I strongly prefer A3 display over A1. Something how it's being blurred by my eyes makes AMOLED more comfortable.
- colors are nicer/punchier on A3 (confirmed by my wife too)
- brightness seems to be quite low, for the same perceived level I need to configure A3 ~70%, A1 ~50%. I can't imagine using minimum brightness in real life (the same goes with A1), it's barely visible. Need to compare both phones in strong light / outdoors.
- PWM does not flicker at any brightness level
Overall, I would definitely prefer 1080 AMOLED over 720 AMOLED. 720 AMOLED vs. 1080 LCD is a tough call. I'm still debating myself whether I should switch from A1 to A3. I really like the form factor, responsiveness, absolutely clear audio output, 128gb storage, file based encryption and the feel of A3. Non existing "Mi A3 PRO" (Mi CC9) would be a better choice, though bigger form factor is definitely less comfortable for one hand usage (the main reason why I want to replace A1). Decisions, decisions..
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I got the phone for my wife, was playing with it for a few hours and these are my findings and comparison with Mi A1:
- A3 has warm tones, A1 is very cool (haven't noticed it before the comparison)
- night light is fine at minimum intensity or just a tad above, definitely not a red berserk. A1 has strong blue hue even with night light (haven't noticed it before).
- A3 has clearly visible pixels, it's a huge downgrade compared to A1 side by side. BUT, after a while, I did not really mind the pixelation of A3 that much (humans can get used probably to anything).
- without my correction glasses, I strongly prefer A3 display over A1. Something how it's being blurred by my eyes makes AMOLED more comfortable.
- colors are nicer/punchier on A3 (confirmed by my wife too)
- brightness seems to be quite low, for the same perceived level I need to configure A3 ~70%, A1 ~50%. I can't imagine using minimum brightness in real life (the same goes with A1), it's barely visible. Need to compare both phones in strong light / outdoors.
- PWM does not flicker at any brightness level
Overall, I would definitely prefer 1080 AMOLED over 720 AMOLED. 720 AMOLED vs. 1080 LCD is a tough call. I'm still debating myself whether I should switch from A1 to A3. I really like the form factor, responsiveness, absolutely clear audio output, 128gb storage, file based encryption and the feel of A3. Non existing "Mi A3 PRO" (Mi CC9) would be a better choice, though bigger form factor is definitely less comfortable for one hand usage (the main reason why I want to replace A1). Decisions, decisions..
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Stop giving reviews after "playing a few hours" with the gadget. Your wife will be blind soon, but then you will not update your review. This phone can cause blindness. You have been warned.
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Stop giving reviews after "playing a few hours" with the gadget. Your wife will be blind soon, but then you will not update your review. This phone can cause blindness. You have been warned.
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Oookey..well noted, thanks! I will update the review as soon as she's blind.
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Stop giving reviews after "playing a few hours" with the gadget. Your wife will be blind soon, but then you will not update your review. This phone can cause blindness. You have been warned.
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Lmao this guy man. He's been spreading literally nothing but hate on every thread. What a sad little man.
bibekmufc said:
Lmao this guy man. He's been spreading literally nothing but hate on every thread. What a sad little man.
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Don't listen to ppl trying to downplay this issue, or you end up with a smartphone that has the worst display in the history and eye damage.
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Don't listen to ppl trying to downplay this issue, or you end up with a smartphone that has the worst display in the history and eye damage.
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Dude, I had even "worse" display few years back (Huawei P1) - pentile AMOLED with 256ppi (vs. 286ppi on A3). I was using it for about 2 years and I did not go blind. Don't generalize your personal health issues, there are thousands of A3 phones in use, yet I found only ONE health complaint. If it was that serious as you claim, some people couldn't pass the opportunity for a nice law suite. It should be a no-brainer to prove it.
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Dude, I had even "worse" display few years back (Huawei P1) - pentile AMOLED with 256ppi (vs. 286ppi on A3). I was using it for about 2 years and I did not go blind. Don't generalize your personal health issues, there are thousands of A3 phones in use, yet I found only ONE health complaint. If it was that serious as you claim, some people couldn't pass the opportunity for a nice law suite. It should be a no-brainer to prove it.
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You are throwing around numbers and comparing. I am giving first hand experience. Again, I have to repeat myself, there is something very wrong with this display, maybe the combination pwm+pentile+low resolution+something else? that is causing massive eye strain.
Using an S21U daily, the phones felt light in the hand even being tethered. Personally, the flat screen and matte rails of the non pro felt and looked the best. Played with some features, but the phones were resetting into demo mode frequently. Similar shots between the Pro & S21U in Best Buy... I preferred the Pixel. Colors on both panels were great in the Adaptive mode, but looks like they lack the NITS vs the S21U. Pro did get quite warm with 10+ mins of mundane use. Best Pixel to date, by miles. Enjoy your devices in good health!
Cheers, J
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Wanting a much brighter screen for outdoor use is the only reason I'm keeping tabs on the new pixels.
I'm coming from a pixel 3 XL and auto brightness just isn't quite enough under the bright Texas sun.
Thanks for sharing your experience vs the Samsung.
Tomsguide.com says both Pixel 6 displays are "rated for 800 nits peak brightness in High Brightness mode".
Google Pixel 6 review
The Google Pixel 6 delivers the best Android experience for the money with superb cameras, a unique design and Android 12
www.tomsguide.com
Other phones per Displaymate.com testing:
Pixel 3 XL = 434 cd/m2
Pixel 4 XL = 448 cd/m2
Pixel 5 = 670 nits (per Reddit)
iPhone 13 Pro Max = 1042 cd/m2
Galaxy Note 9 = 1050 cd/m2
Galaxy S20 Ultra = 1342 cd/m2
OnePlus 9 Pro = 1649 cd/m2
800 nits doesn't totally suck, but it's not "great" by todays standards.
A bit of a letdown if it's true, especially considering that the 6 Pro is rumored to have a Samsung display.
Sunlight visibility isn't only about nits, but it sure helps.
That would suck if true. I have an OP 9 Pro as well and even that could be brighter in sunlight
Ugh. Way too dim. I live in Miami, and I bought the Galaxy Note 20 Ultra because of its bright display and even that I can BARELY read outdoors during the summer months here. We need 2000+ nits on phone around here.
I'm very concerned about this. I currently have a Note 20 Ultra at 1500 nits. I very rarely need to push the brightness, but when I do, it's there. At 800 max, this is one of the first test I'm going to run.
Google hasn’t listed the exact screen brightness and instead only states it has a high brightness mode, but to my eye, it’s as bright as the iPhone 13 Pro that hits 1,000 nits of sustained brightness.
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Tomsguide.com says both Pixel 6 displays are "rated for 800 nits peak brightness in High Brightness mode".
Google Pixel 6 review
The Google Pixel 6 delivers the best Android experience for the money with superb cameras, a unique design and Android 12
www.tomsguide.com
Other phones:
Pixel 3 XL = 434 cd/m2
iPhone 13 Pro Max = 1042 cd/m2
Galaxy Note 9 = 1050 cd/m2
Galaxy S20 Ultra = 1342 cd/m2
OnePlus 9 Pro = 1649 cd/m2
800 nits doesn't totally suck, but it's not "great" by todays standards.
A bit of a letdown if it's true, especially considering that the 6 Pro is rumored to have a Samsung display.
Sunlight visibility isn't only about nits, but it sure helps.
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With any luck, for the unlocked model once rooted, will be able to have a custom kernel that enables at least a high-brightness mode like I used to use with the Pixel 1:
https://elementalx.org/devices/
and the HBM app to go along with the kernel: High Brightness Mode
roirraW edor ehT said:
With any luck, for the unlocked model once rooted, will be able to have a custom kernel that enables at least a high-brightness mode like I used to use with the Pixel 1:
https://elementalx.org/devices/
and the HBM app to go along with the kernel: High Brightness Mode
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Yep. Hopefully tbalden will implement his kernel (CleanSlate) for this phone. He not only has a High Brightness mode but a High Brightness Boost mode that is fabulous in bright sunshine for the Pixel 4 XL.
My delivery date has updated again, back to Oct 27-28. Guess I can stop holding my breath till I get my way
I have 20/20 vision and I can barely stand the brightness with today's phones even in bright sunlight past the half way point on the slider. But I digress.
One complaint I have about my Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ is it doesn't get dim enough when being used in the dark. It doesn't automatically go to the lowest brightness most of the time, and even when I manually lower it to the bottom, it's still way too bright. It's relatively rare these days that I try to use my phone in the dark, but through root on my Pixel 1, I was able to go even lower than it got without root - which was already lower than my Note does. It is nice having the screen be able to get so bright, although in the brightest sun, it was still slightly difficult to see, and it's more important to me that the software works the way it was meant to - which is not what I get with the Note.
you can't really tell but it is as bright as my s21u. you can't tell the difference. people who say otherwise are straight lying.
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I have 20/20 vision and I can barely stand the brightness with today's phones even in bright sunlight past the half way point on the slider. But I digress.
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I'm with you, have 20/10 vision and light sensitivity so sunglasses anytime I'm outside that's not after dark and have every piece of glass in my car tinted including the windshield so I suppose we are in a slightly different category than most in this thread.
Checked Pixel 6 Pro today at Bestbuy, felt P6P is not as premium as S21 Ultra. S21 Ultra build quality felt premium to me, the back being matte feels like metal, also S21 ultra screen quality is better (brightness and richness of color etc..).
Check the attached screen comparison pic (both are at 100% brightness).
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you can't really tell but it is as bright as my s21u. you can't tell the difference. people who say otherwise are straight lying.
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I don't know bro. You probably held a defected 6p. However, I can comment on the colors. That's because Samsung devices have the option to have vivid screen mode. This is something you can achieve on the 6p with a custom kernel. It comes down to preferences
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I don't know bro. You probably held a defected 6p. However, I can comment on the colors. That's because Samsung devices have the option to have vivid screen mode. This is something you can achieve on the 6p with a custom kernel. It comes down to preferences
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Do you know what display options the Pixel 6 Pro has? For instance, the 4XL has Natural, Boosted and Adaptive. The 2XL has Natural, boosted and saturated. I believe Adaptive is default for 4XL and Boosted for the 2XL.
@droidguy22 Did you notice these options while you were playing around with it?
I did not check. But I also heard that many pixel owners see no difference between natural and boosted.
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I did not check. But I also heard that many pixel owners see no difference between natural and boosted.
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Very slight difference between natural and boosted on my Pixel 4 XL, but noticeable difference with adaptive compared to those other two.
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you can't really tell but it is as bright as my s21u. you can't tell the difference. people who say otherwise are straight lying.
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Googles high-brightness mode can't be toggled/manually "activated" by hand (except if you root and force that), so most people just max the slider and then make a comparison. That's why there is a lot of confusion concerning the "doesn't get bright enough" - But that's bull****. It won't work. You need to go into a direct sunlight situation and then and only then the phone will max out. It's hardcoded and is only active when the phone sensors scream "supa bright!!!". It's Googles way to do it and it sorta sucks, but that's how it is.
So if people want to make a brightness comparison, they need to be in a very bright spot to make sure that the Pixel phone will actually max le brightness. If you just max the slider in a room with normal lights, the phone will not go into high brightness mode and your comparison will suck a*ss, because those Samsungs or Apple phones will shine your daylights out.
By the way, what helps Pixel smartphones (at least the P3 and P4 XL that I owned showed that) massively in terms of readability is decent anti-reflective coating/glass. A phone with decent anti-reflective capabilities and 800 nits is much better readable than a phone with 1100 nits and bad anti-reflective capabilities.
I know. Real max auto brightness (when the phone detects very high brightness) is very different from the max manual brightness just by sliding the brightness bar to the end. Next time you check, try flashing your phone flashlight right next to 6p's front camera and the brightness should jump up even higher.