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I have Cingular 8525. I tried every possible Mobile 6 image with all the hacks that I could think of. The phone always bonds correctly with my Nissan Sentra but audio is a hit and miss. It sometimes works perfectly, sometimes with a 2 to 6 seconds delay and then it just stops carrying the audio.
Mobile 5 works perfectly fine (Bluetooth wise) and I am running it at the moment.
I know that this is a common issue, Nissan, Toyota, Citroen, Renault and others seem to have the same issue with Mobile 6.
I called yesterday Microsoft and Nissan as I was running out of options specially that all new devices like the Tilt (Kaiser) are mobile 6 only anyway.
Nissan did listen to me while Microsoft was asking for $80 dollars in order to try to help me with this "incident" although they understand that I am reporting an issue and not asking for personal setup assistance. ... go figure.
Anyway, I am not expecting any miracles but simply thought to keep awareness of this issue hoping that either someones manages to find a magic setting or MS somehow releases a fix.
I managed to get a third party stack (windcomm) almost working but it was very instable to consider a workable solution.
I am even considering writing a news article about it next week as I feel that Microsoft's perspective is not to fix it and force the car manufacturers to support its BT stack.
I know I can go with the third party bluetooth route but It pains me that my wife's RAZR phone works flawlessly and my prized device cannot.

MyFordTouch/Sync works great with WP7/Mango

Figured I'd post this here as an FYI since I didn't see a thread on it already. I just bought a 2012 Ford Focus and I was surprised at how well my HTC Arrive worked with it after hearing how small the list of phones that are fully functional with it is. I don't know if it started with Mango or if it worked well in NoDo already. I can see my battery life and signal strength from the dash. When someone texts me it kicks right into the voice from the phone that asks if you want to read it or ignore. I can reply back and send texts via voice as well. If I hit media on the touchscreen it shows my phone as an option and starts playing the music, all without needing to plug anything in. My friends iPhone4 and my wife's EVO Shift 4G running the latest official GB update don't do this, they only get the phone call ability really. Here's the latest official tested list, as you can see almost none of the devices are rated for audio streaming and SMS, but mine works.
http://www.nsapp.fordtechservice.dealerconnection.com/sync/usEN/sync_us_EN_iop_2_00.pdf
If you don't know what MyFordTouch/Sync is, here's some info and videos of it in action, it's pretty sweet:
http://www.ford.com/technology/sync...1b08c08d000632e00f00g05h00j00k26m1n0p20110107
The voice I hear though is the same one that comes out of the phone, the TellMe system, not the robotic voice in the videos above.

Glad to know it works, the focus 2012 looks awesome, I'd get one if I could.

That'll be because Ford and Microsoft are major business partners.
The OS that the Touch screen runs on in the new Ford Focus (well, the ST due out next year anyway) was developed by Microsoft, so no surprise at all that they work incredibly well together.
Also just to be pedantic, how can you have bought and own 2012 Focus when we are still in 2011?

Audio said:
That'll be because Ford and Microsoft are major business partners.
The OS that the Touch screen runs on in the new Ford Focus (well, the ST due out next year anyway) was developed by Microsoft, so no surprise at all that they work incredibly well together.
Also just to be pedantic, how can you have bought and own 2012 Focus when we are still in 2011?
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WP7 and the Sync software share much DNA.
As far as the 2012 comment, the new Focus is a 2012 model being sold in 2011:
http://www.ford.com/cars/focus/?intcmp=fv-hpbb-dflt-40mpg-focus

Audio said:
That'll be because Ford and Microsoft are major business partners.
The OS that the Touch screen runs on in the new Ford Focus (well, the ST due out next year anyway) was developed by Microsoft, so no surprise at all that they work incredibly well together.
Also just to be pedantic, how can you have bought and own 2012 Focus when we are still in 2011?
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The thing is that I've seen people complain that the first release of WP7 supported only the voice dialing so I was prepared to be disappointed and then was pleasantly surprised. Figured I'd report in on it. I might do a video review just to get the word out and show it off a little.

Am I the only one that's extremely upset that you have to have a Ford to have this functionality? Wouldn't it be best for Microsoft to make their software available to aftermarket dealers?

You dont need a ford to get what hes talking about...
Most of what he described is standard bluetooth capabilities. With the exception of voice reply and read text messages my JVC unit does all else. I do get a message that says I have a text however. I imagine when I get mango and actually have the read and write through voice functionality It will work seamlessly as well.
Of course the ford system is fancier overall but as far as functionality from the phone as he describes it, its the same.
I am curious though, does the focus have a usb plug? Can you plug the phone in and actually control the zune software? Or is it just bluetooth control?

It depends on the trim level I think, mine has two USB ports though. I think I've read that it controls via USB as well. Here are some other things possible:
http://www.syncmyride.com/Own/touch/entertainment

Found this:
http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3742033&postcount=6

Unfortunately, it looks like I will be returning my Moto 360

It wasn't the battery life that put the nail in the coffin. It's 4-5 daily disconnects or phantom disconnects from my Nexus 5. What good is this thing if all it does is tell time? I have another watch that can do that.

mzimmer88 said:
It wasn't the battery life that put the nail in the coffin. It's 4-5 daily disconnects or phantom disconnects from my Nexus 5. What good is this thing if all it does is tell time? I have another watch that can do that.
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Same issues here, but it happens with all Android Wear devices. Hoping for a solution/update soon : \

Phlip00ws6 said:
Same issues here, but it happens with all Android Wear devices. Hoping for a solution/update soon : \
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Misery loves company, I suppose.... That may explain why Motorola support was hardly helpful.

Since Motorola said they would take their sweet time in getting back to me about my issue, I decided to put Android L on my Nexus 5 to see if that helps the situation. If anyone's interested, I will post my results over the next few days.

interested.
interested.
I have been holding off on Android L only cause everything I want works on my phone.
Well except Moto 360 disconnects.
mzimmer88 said:
Since Motorola said they would take their sweet time in getting back to me about my issue, I decided to put Android L on my Nexus 5 to see if that helps the situation. If anyone's interested, I will post my results over the next few days.
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Lol you guys think that's bad? You can just cycle bluetooth and it reconnects right?
I'm using the 360 with an ancient GS2 with CM-11 on it, and my bluetooth module is dying or something because it will disconnect the watch > then turn off bluetooth > and only way to re-enable is to restart the GS2 lol
My watch is more powerful than my phone... no update will fix that!

OrionNE said:
interested.
I have been holding off on Android L only cause everything I want works on my phone.
Well except Moto 360 disconnects.
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20 minutes in and so far so good. Ha!
I will let more time go by before I do a real update. Off the bat, the difference I noticed is that the status bar just says "connected," rather than "connected, running sync loop." Not sure if that means anything.

I've only had one disconnect since I got the watch on Monday. it's been great so far. using it with a G3. Tried it with my M8 and no problems.
But hopefully there will be some sort of update for those that are having constant issues.

Phlip00ws6 said:
Same issues here, but it happens with all Android Wear devices. Hoping for a solution/update soon : \
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Don't experience disconnect on my g watch unless I wander away from my phone.

Crazypinoy9 said:
I've only had one disconnect since I got the watch on Monday. it's been great so far. using it with a G3. Tried it with my M8 and no problems.
But hopefully there will be some sort of update for those that are having constant issues.
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ive not had disconnect issues on my g3 either...

Hour 4, minute 9. No disconnects to be reported. An uneasy calmness fills the air.

I had about five disconnects a day with my Note 3. I returned the 360 after a week for many reasons. I just picked up a Gear 2, and it's such a better smartwatch. I have a "That's so cool" moment several times a day, where as I didn't have many of those on the 360. Rock solid connection too. Tizen surprisingly works great. The only thing I miss a little is Google Now.

kronium said:
I had about five disconnects a day with my Note 3. I returned the 360 after a week for many reasons. I just picked up a Gear 2, and it's such a better smartwatch. I have a "That's so cool" moment several times a day, where as I didn't have many of those on the 360. Rock solid connection too. Tizen surprisingly works great. The only thing I miss a little is Google Now.
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Sadly, I just returned my moto 360 today. I got constant disconnects on Bluetooth as well, but that actually didn't bother me. For me, it was the battery life. I got tired of charging it once in the middle of the day, everyday.
Also, I think Android wear is just not up to par yet...
My last watch was the Gear 2, & I agree that it's a much better watch and much better operating system. I got spoiled by 3 to 4 days worth of battery life and a beautiful screen- it just happens to be square... Also, the IR blaster is just too damn cool and useful!
I liked the round watch so much, that my next SmartWatch will probably be the LG G watch R. I'm hoping that they learn a lesson from Motorola and fix some of the problems that the moto 360 had. I'm also hoping that it is easier to modify and we can have a better experience with Android wear. I think I'm going to stick with Android Wear- after all, I remember the Android operating system was pretty bad when it first came out too...
Lastly, I just think it's ridiculous to have a watch that has the display turned off most of the time. I know someday in the future (soon) we will look back and laugh at the fact that smart watches had to sit there with the screens turned off most the time!

moto x here. no disconnects.

S5 here and no disconnects either.

I have an N5 and have experienced none of the behavior mentioned by OP. Watch stays connected unless I get out of range and reconnects smoothly when I come back within range.

gammite said:
moto x here. no disconnects.
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Do you have an app that notifies you when the connection is lost? If not, you may not even notice when it disconnects. I had an app that alerted me when my phone was out of Bluetooth range. Or when BT was dropped in this case.

I have a Moto X, had a LG G watch for a week and now a moto 360 for a few days, haven't seen a single disconnect with either one.

kronium said:
Do you have an app that notifies you when the connection is lost? If not, you may not even notice when it disconnects. I had an app that alerted me when my phone was out of Bluetooth range. Or when BT was dropped in this case.
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the watch has an icon it displays when it is not connected. the only time i see that icon is when i disconnect it.

maybe a replacement instead of a return?
tsy87 said:
ive not had disconnect issues on my g3 either...
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Only disconnected once over 5 days (other than testing how far I could go before it would, and it's at least 4 walls away), using Moto X. Maybe just your watch is the issue, and try a replacement before a return?

TOYOTA ENTUNE plus and use of google maps app. possible?

just got a 2016 toyota camry sE , spec edition with Entune Audio Plus package that includes an upgraded 7-inch touchscreen, satellite radio and HD radio.
is there any way to have google maps app work with this system? toyota says no, but there should be a way as other app function with this android integration system. I am currently using a note 3 on verizon and planning on a nexus 6p
as my next phone. the note 3 pairs well for phone and audio. works well with "approved apps" google maps is not approved.
Can google maps be connected to work with toyota entunes plus?
thanks for any ideas or suggestions. i am not real literate so you may need to dumb down your ansers and tell me the type of person who might be able to help me. i am in miami, fl.

I'm pretty sure the answer is No.
Unless you add/change to an aftermarket headunit like Pionerr 4100NEX that supports Android Auto...
Most other auto OEMs are now or soon(-ish) supporting Android Auto and Apple Carplay, which provide navigation, music, messaging and hands free phone calls.
Toyota seems to be the last major holdout. But since just about every other car company is or will be supporting these Google and Apple "infotainment" systems, I think Toyota will have to as well, eventually...
Beyond this, you could mount a phone or tablet in your car, while being careful not to breach the distracted driving laws in your location.

Unfortunately Toyota continues to keep their head buried deep in the sand and market the Entune "FRUSTRATION" system as a real solution for Infotainment.
They will be following the pack to use Ford Sync sans Android Auto or Apple Auto. their strategy is to keep driver distractions to a minimum and frustration to the maximum.
As a new owner of a 2016 RAV4 Hybrid, (and my last Toyota), I have made numerous calls and sent numerous emails regarding the uselessness of Entune. I can use a Phone hanger on the screen and attach my phone and get much better performance since Entune neglected adding WiFi capabilities to the unit and Cell service thru Blue tooth is required for any "INFOTAINMENT" with the exception of XM, that does not work well either.
I am visiting the lying dealer that sold us the RAV4 this morning they claim they can make some adjustments to Entune to make it more palatable..
IMHO Entune is a lost cause, Voice recognition does not well at all, Navigation requires far to many button pushes and the constant nagging voice and commentary for every turn renders the system more than frustrating. The fact Navigation should be called NaviLost as it seldom find any accurate route to travel.
I could rant on for hours, call Toyota and email your complaints if enough Sucker, I mean buyers complain they may eventually listen.
Thanks for listening..
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The Toyota Dealership could not anything but a full reset, still no change in Voice recognition dysfunction.
I am working directly with Toyota on the issue, I have requested a refund for the cost of the entune system. will update this thread once I have more information.
E-Mail call and bug Toyota to get Entune working. you may get some traction.

I too want to bash the stupid entune system. 2016 RAV4 hybrid limited, love everything about the car except the headunit.
1) they screw up the polarization of the display by 90 deg. When you put on polarized sunglasses, the screen is dimmed out compare to the display between the speedometer.
2) voice recognition is slow and retarded. > Half of the time it guesses wrong.
3) it will freeze on you occasionally and you have to hold the power button to reboot
4) USB support sucks. no playlist support, no search by folder
5) JBL greenedge is lame...bass is not rich even with the subwoofer. My prius with JBL kicks ass in comparsion.
6) And of course they lock you out of destination input while driving...but why can't I search POI via voice while driving? (same as my prius though)
These are just off top of my head, I am sure there are more...

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I too want to bash the stupid entune system. 2016 RAV4 hybrid limited, love everything about the car except the headunit.
1) they screw up the polarization of the display by 90 deg. When you put on polarized sunglasses, the screen is dimmed out compare to the display between the speedometer.
2) voice recognition is slow and retarded. > Half of the time it guesses wrong.
3) it will freeze on you occasionally and you have to hold the power button to reboot
4) USB support sucks. no playlist support, no search by folder
5) JBL greenedge is lame...bass is not rich even with the subwoofer. My prius with JBL kicks ass in comparsion.
6) And of course they lock you out of destination input while driving...but why can't I search POI via voice while driving? (same as my prius though)
These are just off top of my head, I am sure there are more...
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I have 2015 Prius V- trim 5 and DON't even get me started on the navi/entune system. Everyday I can't imagine they EVER attempting a product test and have this thing ever "pass." All I can say is be grateful... grateful you didn't buy your vehicle a year earlier. The 1st gen of that headunit would randomly turn off at daytime temps above 75F. Toyota put out a TSB and the entire cluster%^&* took 3 months in supplier (Panasonic) delays in fixing. FYI - check your map date... it should be at least a year old. They update them in the fall and for you to get it updated I've hear it costs HUNDREDS of $$ @ the dealer...just to load an SD card.
Miralink would definitely fix your problems so as far as a solution...
I have found 2 wiring options but tried none as of yet.
A company called CRUX makes an adapter to free up the A/V input and allow A/V inputs to be ran while vehicle is in motion (VIM)
The adapter for my vehicle - and likely yours - is part # VIMTY-05 (I'd post direct links but I'm not sure about url rules... it should be easy to find). $100
I've also found a company out of Russia called "car-solution" that supplies a similar product with part # 843116 that should do something similar as well. $45 + shipping (select HK warehouse, not EU)
From there both kits should allow you to connect a 12VDC miracast w/ analog a/v inputs and allow you to connect Apple/android devices via wifi.... these are commonly available on Amazon/ebay for $60-$100 range
Total cost to do it yourself should be less than $200.
Both option will likely void some warranty... just like going aftermarket... and as I mentioned before... I haven't verified it YET. MY frustration is getting to the point I might make this a project this week.

oldman_58 said:
Unfortunately Toyota continues to keep their head buried deep in the sand and market the Entune "FRUSTRATION" system as a real solution for Infotainment.
They will be following the pack to use Ford Sync sans Android Auto or Apple Auto. their strategy is to keep driver distractions to a minimum and frustration to the maximum.
As a new owner of a 2016 RAV4 Hybrid, (and my last Toyota), I have made numerous calls and sent numerous emails regarding the uselessness of Entune. I can use a Phone hanger on the screen and attach my phone and get much better performance since Entune neglected adding WiFi capabilities to the unit and Cell service thru Blue tooth is required for any "INFOTAINMENT" with the exception of XM, that does not work well either.
I am visiting the lying dealer that sold us the RAV4 this morning they claim they can make some adjustments to Entune to make it more palatable..
IMHO Entune is a lost cause, Voice recognition does not well at all, Navigation requires far to many button pushes and the constant nagging voice and commentary for every turn renders the system more than frustrating. The fact Navigation should be called NaviLost as it seldom find any accurate route to travel.
I could rant on for hours, call Toyota and email your complaints if enough Sucker, I mean buyers complain they may eventually listen.
Thanks for listening..
++++++++++++++++Update++++++++++++++++
The Toyota Dealership could not anything but a full reset, still no change in Voice recognition dysfunction.
I am working directly with Toyota on the issue, I have requested a refund for the cost of the entune system. will update this thread once I have more information.
E-Mail call and bug Toyota to get Entune working. you may get some traction.
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Found this thread trying to solve the same problem for the same car. No solution. Entune and Toyota's navigation and voice system is an abomination. Similar threads on forums for all model that offer the system.

CalypsoDroid said:
Found this thread trying to solve the same problem for the same car. No solution. Entune and Toyota's navigation and voice system is an abomination. Similar threads on forums for all model that offer the system.
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I pushed back hard and got an 8 year platinum warranty at no cost. I e-mailed everyone I could find at Toyota and finally got national sales to get involved.
The dealer offered to buy back the car at very big loss... At any rate The Toyota engineers indicated the unit is working as designed... When I can get the cash together I will be replacing that abomination of a "Infotainment" system.

This is interesting.
Just got a 2016 Highlander Limited Platinum AWD for the wifey and was thinking about this. OEM i know toyota won't do this. Coming from Jeep forums as i have a 14 JGC there are a few hacks. But someone has to do it. And the hack is part software and there is an adapter you have to connect at the back of the radio. Meaning you have to get behind the Dash. Luckily for the GC getting to the back of the radio is simple as you need to simply remove the trim around the radio and ac vents, unscrew a few screws, unplug a few things and plug in the adapter. The adapter is straight plug and play and enables the text input while driving, provides video for up to two video outputs for cam or anything you want to play on your head unit. I have it and set it up with a push 2 tv so i can mirror my android screen.
Will need to speak to them and see if they can get into the entune system. Its really based on demand though. I'm sure its not cheap to do so.

2018 And nothing has changed.
What a huge bungle on Toyota's part. My 2018 Highlander XLE with the "Premium" Entune is still abysmal. Toyota is giving everyone a good reason to my a Honda.

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I pushed back hard and got an 8 year platinum warranty at no cost. I e-mailed everyone I could find at Toyota and finally got national sales to get involved.
The dealer offered to buy back the car at very big loss... At any rate The Toyota engineers indicated the unit is working as designed... When I can get the cash together I will be replacing that abomination of a "Infotainment" system.
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Would you give me a call or text me please? similar issue... 614-446-9725

You must move to the UK to send google map directions to a Toyota
bob52r said:
just got a 2016 toyota camry sE , spec edition with Entune Audio Plus package that includes an upgraded 7-inch touchscreen, satellite radio and HD radio.
is there any way to have google maps app work with this system? toyota says no, but there should be a way as other app function with this android integration system. I am currently using a note 3 on verizon and planning on a nexus 6p
as my next phone. the note 3 pairs well for phone and audio. works well with "approved apps" google maps is not approved.
Can google maps be connected to work with toyota entunes plus?
thanks for any ideas or suggestions. i am not real literate so you may need to dumb down your ansers and tell me the type of person who might be able to help me. i am in miami, fl.
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Based on a YouTube video (which I'm not allowed to post, because I'm new here) , if you live in the UK, it is possible to send google map directions to a Toyota navigation system. I guess Toyota USA is not smart enough to do this.

General Google's working on a fix for the Pixel 6's external DAC issues, but don't expect it anytime soon - You better hope 2022 flies by

https://www.androidpolice.com/googl...l-dac-issues-but-dont-expect-it-anytime-soon/
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The Pixel 6 and 6 Pro are two of the best Android phones you can buy today, but we'd be lying if we said they were flawless. Google launched its latest devices with some underbaked software, leading to bugs, glitches, and even reduced cell reception. Most of those issues have been ironed out, but there's one problem the company had yet to comment on publicly. If you're an audiophile finding yourself frustrated with how external DACs work on the Pixel 6, we have some good news and some bad news.
As we reported back in December, Google's latest flagship phones don't play well when connected to a DAC over USB-C. Popular local music players like Poweramp crash whenever you try to start listening to a song or an album — and that's if you're lucky. Other apps create a loud screeching noise that seems guaranteed to blow out your eardrums. Clearly, external DAC support wasn't at the top of Google's priorities — most people rely on wireless headphones these days, let alone turning to DACs for top-tier sound quality. Still, it's frustrating to learn your brand-new flagship phone won't work with your pre-existing accessories, especially when there's no rhyme or reason behind the lack of support.
After successfully launching the January update for the Pixel 6 and 6 Pro last week, Google is finally ready to turn its attention towards the audiophile community. A Pixel Community manager has confirmed a fix is in the works, more than a month after the issue gained traction on Reddit. Here's the bad news: it's not rolling out for phones until "later this summer."
By our count, summer is exactly five months away — or 151 days, if you want to be specific. Who knows how the world could change in the intervening months? Maybe we'll all be flying around in hovercrafts or living in biodomes on Mars. Maybe Mark Zuckerberg's vision for the future will win out, and we'll all be sucked into some kind of hellscape metaverse where you pay for food and shelter with JPEGs and Dogecoin. Will anyone actually care about DAC support when the mole people who live underneath the Earth's crust invade and conquer humanity? I mean, probably — audiophiles are a dedicated bunch.
It feels a little ridiculous that external DACs won't work with the Pixel 6 until, at the earliest, more than half a year after its initial launch. Google has delivered software patches earlier than expected before, though. If we're lucky, a fix for this bug may arrive sometime between now and this summer. For now, we'll just have to keep holding out hope.
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oops wrong thread sorry

Well let's hope other bugs get fixed faster

Well that's an unnecessarily long subject!

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Well that's an unnecessarily long subject!
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My verbose toggle has been broken in the on position for too long!