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[SOLVED!!] Looping Bootloader or startup and unable to charge to reflash

I really don't know what's just happened...I think maybe my TP2 just decided to die on me.
I was using NRGZ Leo ROM from 22nd Feb. All was going well until my battery ran out today. At the time, my daughter was playing a game on it, not from WM, but from the Android port (Haret). While she was playing, I heard the familiar short vibrate of a soft reset. I know my battery was low and I suspect the battery wasn't charging, although it was plugged in (not sure if Android supports charging yet in the later builds)
Anyway, for some reason, it wouldn't go past the vibrate/Touch Pro2 screen. It just kept resetting and looping back. I attempted to do a hardware reset (power button, talk/send, end buttons) but accidently chose the wrong combo (power button, volume down) and entered bootloader. No problem yet, just reset and try again, right? Only I didn't get the chance, as it reset itself and looped through bootloader.
Now I am stuck in this loop. I can't flash from SD as it wont stay on long enough before self-resetting to find the RHODIMG.nbh on the card. I can't connect to my PC as it wont stay in bootloader long enough before self-resetting for my PC to install the "Windows Mobile Device" drivers, and even if it did, when it self-resets, it would disconnect anyway. I can't connect to MTTY for the same reason. I can't connect to ActiveSync or WMDC as I can't boot to WM to get ActiveSync running on the device.
When plugged in to AC power or through USB, it fires itself up automatically and into this loop, and it wont turn off manually, reset or accept any other button combos to enter RUU (from SD method) or to do hard reset. When it is not plugged in to any power source it won't even switch on.
I suspect it is resetting as it is not charging. I'm guessing that when in bootloader, charging is disabled, and I think this because I was originally getting 3 seconds of bootloader, now I am getting around 8 seconds, but it doesn't get any better than that, and I don't know of a rom upgrade method that can be done in 8 seconds! There are a few seconds of charging time before bootloader kicks in and the orange LED goes out and presumably stops charging. Am I right in thinking there is no charging in bootloader and in the Android port (I am using the latest version from 27/2, rhod100).
Basically, to summarise, I am stuck in bootloader-reset-bootloader loop, I cannot connect to pc in any way, flash from SD, Hard Reset, I have very little or no battery and it won't charge because it keeps going into bootloader where there is no charging taking place and it wont turn off to charge that way either.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. I don't hold out much hope though. At the moment, it doesn't seem that I am able to interact with it at all to make it do anything different or to manipulate what it is trying to do. Hopefully someone will see something familiar and maybe have some suggestions.
Oh, and by the way, it's nothing to do with a bad flash. I've been doing this for long enough to know what I'm doing, and I wasn't even doing a rom upgrade at the time. My last rom upgrade was 2 days ago and all went well, and I have been using it without problems since, until now. I haven't flashed my Radio or SPL since HSPL was released, so I know it has nothing to do with that either.
Thanks in advance for anyone who can give any advice at all, or even just take pitty on me! Apologies for all the text. I know it looks boring and may put some people off reading, but I needed to get all the info in.

Are you able to charge when it completely turned off?

can you pull the battery out, put it back in and simply charge for an hour or so to get some juice into the battery?
Then you could maybe reflash it from the bootloader or sd card...

shadixs said:
Are you able to charge when it completely turned off?
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I can't get it to turn off, power button has no effect.
clauswl said:
can you pull the battery out, put it back in and simply charge for an hour or so to get some juice into the battery?
Then you could maybe reflash it from the bootloader or sd card...
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If I take the battery out, obviously, it cuts the power and the looping stops...until I put the battery back in, and it starts itself again. I can't stop the loop and I can't turn the power off or even stop it switching itself on.

matmaneyre said:
I can't get it to turn off, power button has no effect.
If I take the battery out, obviously, it cuts the power and the looping stops...until I put the battery back in, and it starts itself again. I can't stop the loop and I can't turn the power off or even stop it switching itself on.
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I had exactly that problem after a bad romflash. I bought a decktop cradle for the tp 2 that has 2nd. battery charger. Charged the battery and reflash, everything was ok again.
So, juice up the battery and do a hard reset or reflash..
SOMETHING LIKE THIS

I know you prob dont wanna hear it, but id say its a warranty job. Theyll just force flash it anyway so they wont notice the rom you were using.

Cheers guys. I thought it might be the rom. Not sure how though as like I said, my last rom flash was a couple of days ago and it was fine. Guess these things just happen sometimes. I'll try and get the battery charged somehow. Trouble is, I don't know another single person who has a TP2, so it looks like the cradle option I think. It did cross my mind to be honest when I was trying to think of alternative charging methods.
As for the warranty idea, if it can be avoided, I'd rather not take that route if I can help it, but thanks for the suggestion. Lets just say that will remain an option as my last resort if all else fails.
Still open to suggestions if anyone knows of any miracles....any Hogwarts graduates kicking about these forums with a few magic words to spare?

Hey man, I had the same issue when my phone wouldn't for some unknown reason charge.
1) Take our your battery
2) Plug in your DESKTOP CHARGER (not USB from PC!!) to microUSB slot
3) Put your battery back
4) Wait few moments (5 minutes)
5) and you are ready to boot, now you can even charge from USB. No idea why, but looks like booting takes more than 500mA :O
If it wont help, swap those 2 and 3 points

Hey guys! Please give this thread a better title. More related to the problem. Sounds like it could be useful in the future for hopefully very few people.

OK, I will change the thread title. I searched for quite a while but couldn't find any similar cases. But it seems it is more common than I thought since I raised the issue, so a new, more specific title might be more beneficial to other users experiencing similar problems.
For the record, I haven't solved it yet. Waiting on a standalone battery charger I bought from eBay. Didn't really want the cradle. THIS is the one I have bought. I will update on my progress when it arrives.
Thanks for your help to all who have contributed so far.

Hi I have the same problem the phone won't charge or connect via usb I think it is a faulty usb port the phone have & because of that it is causing the phone to go to bootloader.

I've had this happen before, just plug it into the mains charger (wall charger) and let it sit for a while. It will loop a couple times but once there is enough juice in the battery it will be back to normal.
Since you have RHODIMG.nbh on your sd card, maybe taking your sd card out would help it a bit.
There have been other posts with the same issue and plugging it into mains will solve the problem
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I know you prob dont wanna hear it, but id say its a warranty job. Theyll just force flash it anyway so they wont notice the rom you were using.
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Not true. just the battery is really low, once charged enough to power device after boot, everything will be back to normal.

fone_fanatic said:
Not true. just the battery is really low, once charged enough to power device after boot, everything will be back to normal.
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Seems like it would make sense. I don't have my wall charger on me now...does the Rhodium not boot up without a battery in it? I thought my old Hermes did, guess I've never tried it with the TP2.

This might sound a little stupid, but I actually know somebody that said it worked for his iPhone (waste of 3-4 mins if not). Plug in the USB charger from PC. Reboot the PC without disconnecting the phone. Wait 3-4 minutes...

Toleraen said:
Seems like it would make sense. I don't have my wall charger on me now...does the Rhodium not boot up without a battery in it? I thought my old Hermes did, guess I've never tried it with the TP2.
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from what i remember, it won't boot without the battery.

fone_fanatic said:
I've had this happen before, just plug it into the mains charger (wall charger) and let it sit for a while. It will loop a couple times but once there is enough juice in the battery it will be back to normal.
Since you have RHODIMG.nbh on your sd card, maybe taking your sd card out would help it a bit.
There have been other posts with the same issue and plugging it into mains will solve the problem
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I left it looping for hours....no joy I'm afraid. Just gonna have to wait for this charger to arrive I think
Toleraen said:
Seems like it would make sense. I don't have my wall charger on me now...does the Rhodium not boot up without a battery in it? I thought my old Hermes did, guess I've never tried it with the TP2.
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from what i remember, it won't boot without the battery.
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Definitely doesn't power up plugged in without a battery. Battery needs to be present. Still waiting on this charger though. I'm hoping it's not one of those where it says the item location is Cardiff (UK) when actually it's in Hong Kong and takes 14 years to arrive

soocerclaude said:
Hi I have the same problem the phone won't charge or connect via usb I think it is a faulty usb port the phone have & because of that it is causing the phone to go to bootloader.
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I really don't think it's the mini usb port as it charges and tries to connect to pc before bootloader kicks in & it all stops.

Hi I found a way 2 get past the bootloader loop just plug your headphones went in bootloader and restarted the phone but it still won't charge or sync with computer.

soocerclaude said:
Hi I found a way 2 get past the bootloader loop just plug your headphones went in bootloader and restarted the phone but it still won't charge or sync with computer.
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Well when I unplug the ac adapter, mine doesn't last on bootloader for more than a couple of seconds before dying. Doesn't even get to the RHODIMG.nbh update screen that way - not enough charge (I'm still hoping). Tried charging overnight while looping but still wouldn't charge enough. The trouble is that obviously the bootloader is killing the battery as it's not charging very much.
Got my charger finally....but they sent the wrong one. Waiting on a response from the seller. The "dock" on the charger wasn't big enough, so while the connectors were in the right place to charge the battery, the battery didn't sit flush, so they wouldn't reach the points on the battery itself. Hope they have a TP2 one & it's not just them thinking it's compatible, as it's the only one on the whole of ebay UK that has them in stock in the UK. Don't want to have to wait up to 2 weeks for one from HK.
I will keep you posted anyway.

Hi I brought mine 2 get fix because my warrenty got void due 2 water damage. I think it is the usb port that is causing this, saw in other forums the same thing. Will get back the phone on monday & I will update u on the situation.

Red light flashing.. phone won't boot.

Hello! let's just cut to the chase. I need help..
Couple of days ago I got tired of waiting for the new ota for my phone so I decided to root.. unlocking bootloader went well, installed newest cwm, made a backup of my rom and chose renovate 3.0 as my first rom to try... everything works normal and I update the faux kernel on the rom to version 5b01.. all works normally at this point.. I play games, listen to music, surf the web.. yesterday I then updated the kernel to 5b03.. I went playing dark knigt rises (btw a very good game) and the phone heats up pretty much (which I think is normal as the game is quite heavy and I use wilkyys game booster app). I play about 15minutes and I get the message that the battery is running low, I plug the charger in and continue.. five minutes go and the phone freezes and the screen goes black.. the phone is connected to the charger and the charging light blinks red.. the phone won't start, even when pressing the power key for 10seconds. I can get to the bootloader and recovery _when_ the phone is connected to the charger thou.. if I unplug the charger the phone won't do anything. I search the problem on xda and find some threads about similar problems.. eventually after changing from the wallcharger to the usb charger on my pc (did this many times..) the red light goes solid and I press power and the phone boots normally.. weehee I made it!! or so I thought..
Next day: I woke up and the phone was in charger all night. Battery reads 100%. I load "system tuner" and experiment with undervolting my phone (only -50mv) and run some benchmarks and everything seems working.. I start to download an app from the play store.. the phone freezes and again the same flashing red light is to be seen, I thought it could be because of the undervolt but I'm not sure anymore.. and now I haven't got the phone in working condition.. I have now got the phone in recovery for about three hours and there should be enough juice for it to start but it wont..
I also restored my backup but that didin't help.. with the getvar battery-voltage command it reads about 2500mv which should be enough to atleast power it on?

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elmonen said:
Hello! let's just cut to the chase. I need help..
Couple of days ago I got tired of waiting for the new ota for my phone so I decided to root.. unlocking bootloader went well, installed newest cwm, made a backup of my rom and chose renovate 3.0 as my first rom to try... everything works normal and I update the faux kernel on the rom to version 5b01.. all works normally at this point.. I play games, listen to music, surf the web.. yesterday I then updated the kernel to 5b03.. I went playing dark knigt rises (btw a very good game) and the phone heats up pretty much (which I think is normal as the game is quite heavy and I use wilkyys game booster app). I play about 15minutes and I get the message that the battery is running low, I plug the charger in and continue.. five minutes go and the phone freezes and the screen goes black.. the phone is connected to the charger and the charging light blinks red.. the phone won't start, even when pressing the power key for 10seconds. I can get to the bootloader and recovery _when_ the phone is connected to the charger thou.. if I unplug the charger the phone won't do anything. I search the problem on xda and find some threads about similar problems.. eventually after changing from the wallcharger to the usb charger on my pc (did this many times..) the red light goes solid and I press power and the phone boots normally.. weehee I made it!! or so I thought..
Next day: I woke up and the phone was in charger all night. Battery reads 100%. I load "system tuner" and experiment with undervolting my phone (only -50mv) and run some benchmarks and everything seems working.. I start to download an app from the play store.. the phone freezes and again the same flashing red light is to be seen, I thought it could be because of the undervolt but I'm not sure anymore.. and now I haven't got the phone in working condition.. I have now got the phone in recovery for about three hours and there should be enough juice for it to start but it wont..
I also restored my backup but that didin't help.. with the getvar battery-voltage command it reads about 2500mv which should be enough to atleast power it on?
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2500mv is far too low for lithium ion batteries. There are protection mechanisms in most lithium ion batteries that will trigger at 2.7volts or lower putting the battery and its protection circuitry into deep sleep.
From the battery university: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries/
Li-ion should never be discharged too low, and there are several safeguards to prevent this from happening. The equipment cuts off when the battery discharges to about 3.0V/cell, stopping the current flow. If the discharge continues to about 2.70V/cell or lower, the battery’s protection circuit puts the battery into a sleep mode. This renders the pack unserviceable and a recharge with most chargers is not possible. To prevent a battery from falling asleep, apply a partial charge before a long storage period.
If this is the case you may not be able to recover easily. We can only assume something went wrong with the phones firmware that caused it to deeply discharge and now protection measures have kicked in.
Regards
Phil

hmm.. thanks for the answer.. last night I got the charging light to stay solid when I plugged the phone in and I was so happy.. but I was so stupid and tried immediatly to turn it on.. it even started and got to the quietly brilliant screen, but died pretty soon and the red light started blinking again.. then I realised I should have kept it charging for a while before trying to turn it on... god damn it..

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elmonen said:
hmm.. thanks for the answer.. last night I got the charging light to stay solid when I plugged the phone in and I was so happy.. but I was so stupid and tried immediatly to turn it on.. it even started and got to the quietly brilliant screen, but died pretty soon and the red light started blinking again.. then I realised I should have kept it charging for a while before trying to turn it on... god damn it..
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When lithium batteries are deep discharge (below 2.7volt) changes take place which can cause short circuits in the battery, recharging then becomes dangerous, hence the battery goes into a form of safety mode, it's like a fuse blowing. It may never take a charge again, or if it does, the battery life will be less than before.
Hope it recovers okay however if it really did hit 2.5volt it could be permanently damaged now.
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Phil

mine was doing that for a while. Keep it plugged in, if the wall charger doesnt work hook it up to a computer. it will turn on again...

simple keep the phone on charge for few hours and dont touch it.

Ok back to the problem.. the phone was in charger yesterday for about 12hours.. and still won't show any signs of recovery.. blinking red light continues... I might just have to accept that I have to send it in to repair... sigh.. and I think I have to pay for it..
As I said in my first post I have restored a nandroid backup of which I made as soon as I installed cwm.. so I should be at stock firmware? allthou I can't confirm it as I can't get the phone to boot but cwm said restore was succesful.. next step is to install original recovery and relock the phone, am I correct? so next question is.. is there anyway to do this as everytime I try to flash something with flasboot I end up with "failed: low battery"...?

elmonen said:
Ok back to the problem.. the phone was in charger yesterday for about 12hours.. and still won't show any signs of recovery.. blinking red light continues... I might just have to accept that I have to send it in to repair... sigh.. and I think I have to pay for it..
As I said in my first post I have restored a nandroid backup of which I made as soon as I installed cwm.. so I should be at stock firmware? allthou I can't confirm it as I can't get the phone to boot but cwm said restore was succesful.. next step is to install original recovery and relock the phone, am I correct? so next question is.. is there anyway to do this as everytime I try to flash something with flasboot I end up with "failed: low battery"...?
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I've experienced this kind of problem when I drain the battery flat; naturally, I crapped myself like everyone else since there's no easy way to remove the battery like you would for any other phone.
All I did (and still do) when this happens is hold the power button until the main buttons flash white a few times, let go and it should reboot the phone..

two minutes pressing power button, nothing happens

elmonen said:
two minutes pressing power button, nothing happens
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did the buttons even flash??
Try holding vol down + power until you get a response, then try holding the power button again ..
for me the key was to get the buttons to flash white, thats when i knew things were gonna be ok! :highfive:

kennylovesyou said:
did the buttons even flash??
Try holding vol down + power until you get a response, then try holding the power button again ..
for me the key was to get the buttons to flash white, thats when i knew things were gonna be ok! :highfive:
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no response! only response is that when it's in charger I can get to to blootlader and recovery with the vol- power combination..

If it won't charge read this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1658084
Helped me out with similar problem.
Hope this helps.
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Amicushia said:
If it won't charge read this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1658084
Helped me out with similar problem.
Hope this helps.
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Tried that :/ won't work.. as my phone doesnt restart with the script.. only way to get a response from it is to press power and vol down when in charger...
Thanks for the suggestion thou.

all right.. quick update.. I have sent the phone in for repair.. so just waiting for the repair bill

Ok... update (don't know if anyones interested..) Today I got at txt message from my carrier that the phone is now ready.. and what do you know.. it was covered by warranty. They changed the motherboard and the screen module (I had one dead pixel) needless to say Im pretty happy now.

elmonen said:
Ok... update (don't know if anyones interested..) Today I got at txt message from my carrier that the phone is now ready.. and what do you know.. it was covered by warranty. They changed the motherboard and the screen module (I had one dead pixel) needless to say Im pretty happy now.
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Don't you just love it when that happens.
I had a rooted phone and my warranty was probably void. A week ago I dropped the phone screen first onto a concrete floor and I expected the worst. Picked it up and turned it on and to my surprise, the screen hadn't cracked. Used it for 5 minutes and it worked as it normally would. When I got back home and wanted to make a call, the screen wouldn't turn on. The lights for the buttons would light up but the screen would remain blank. Calls and texts would come through so the phone worked, just without the screen. After about 10 minutes of tinkering, the screen turned on and I heaved a sigh of relief thinking all was normal again. But when I locked it and tried unlocking it, the screen refused to turn on again. At this point I assumed there would be a loose connection between the MB and screen.
I took the phone to a few repair shops around here to find out how much they would charge and I got quotes around $200. So I decided to try taking it to the vodafone store to see how much it would cost to get HTC to repair the phone. The guy over the counter inspects the phone and finds no physical damage to the screen and says that they'd be glad to replace the phone right then and there at the price of me losing all my data as that would be unrecoverable. I told him I'd be glad to have a replacement on the spot. So in the end, I guess I got a good deal.

Lucky you !
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I had the same problem last night:
phone charging with the HTC wallcharger, alarm set.
the device did not ring: it died during the night.
At first, impossible to boot (rom or hboot) or to charge it. I plugged it on my PC and the red light started to flash. One hour later, it was still flashing, so I tried to turn it ON
It turned ON but repported 2% battery only. (ok, that's why it was refusing to boot)
4 hours later, ON and plugged to the HTC wallcharger (that I verified of course), it was still 2%
After three reboots, plug/unplug several times, suddenly battery displayed 44% instead of 2%
Battery monitor repports that indeed, the device charged for the 1st part of the night, then suddenly and very quickly discharged to 0 while plugged, with no particular app to drain the battery.
During the 4 hours it was plugged and ON, it remained 2%, then a sudden 44% after a reboot.....
What the hell is that???? I've now cleaned cache and battery stats in recovery and I'm letting it charging to see if it goes above these 44%
Weird, I really thought my battery had just died....
EDIT: 2 minutes later, it now repports 46%, so seems to charge correctly. But I need to know what happened, I usually relay on my phone alarm to wake up, and if it happens again, it could be a real problem. Maybe I should flash an other recovery, even if I never had a single problem with it?

kennylovesyou said:
did the buttons even flash??
Try holding vol down + power until you get a response, then try holding the power button again ..
for me the key was to get the buttons to flash white, thats when i knew things were gonna be ok! :highfive:
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I have drained battery, been charging all night with a flashing red LED. No response. Now when I plug it in it still flashes red. When I hold the power button (also power+volume down) the main buttons start flashing white, but no response from the phone whatsoever.
When I let go the power button during the flashing, the lights either go out or stay on..
Any ideas? Thank you!

Possibly bricked E4GT. Advice please.

Hi all,
For the last two to three months, I've been running a Universe ROM on my E4GT. Other than an occasional quirk, the phone has been working very well. I noticed that my phone didn't seem to be connecting to my home WiFi, so I put it into Airplane mode, and then took it out of Airplane mode. Instantly, it connected to my WiFi with a MUCH better signal After checking emails on the phone, I set an alarm and went to sleep. I woke up without the alarm since it did not go off. My phone appeared to be off. Holding the power button resulted in the blue LED charge light flashing, but the screen did not come on. I pulled the battery and put it back, thinking that the phone had some odd-ball software glitch that made it turn off in the middle of the night. When I hit power, the blue LED turns on, blinks, and that is all that happens. Once and only once since this started, my screen showed the boot animation, but did not get past that.
Because my screen turned on ONCE, I'm really hoping that I am soft bricked and not hard bricked. It does seem VERY odd for the phone to become bricked after working fine on this ROM for at least a couple months. The only change I made in recent time is to change a governor in ExTweaks from Hyper to Ondemand. I suppose that could have somehow caused this.
I stopped by a Sprint store, but they would not help as I do not have insurance and the phone is out of warranty.
Do you think making a USB jig or buying one may help? There is a Radio Shack close to where I live. And I have an extra USB cable I can take apart.
If that fails, should I send the phone to mobiletechvideos.com for their JTAG repair? It costs $50 plus shipping to them, but that is still cheaper than buying a new phone. If it came to that, I'd certainly hope they could fix it.
The fact that the blue LED light comes on seems like a decent sign of some life. While the battery animation does not come on, the light does.
Thanks for reading and offering any advice/suggestions.

Can you get into recovery or odin mode?

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Can you get into recovery or odin mode?
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Nope. When I try either, I get the blue LED light, it blinks once, and then stays on. Nothing happens on-screen.

anindrew said:
Nope. When I try either, I get the blue LED light, it blinks once, and then stays on. Nothing happens on-screen.
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Well the jig may work give that a shot at least if you can get into odin mode you can start over using a one click good luck :d

bigdaddy619 said:
Well the jig may work give that a shot at least if you can get into odin mode you can start over using a one click good luck :d
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Thank you! I'll post here if I get that to work or have an alternate solution.

Charge your battery. Use an external charger if need be.
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BluesRulez said:
Charge your battery. Use an external charger if need be.
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I thought that it could be the battery. My original got bloated about a month or two ago, so I bought an Anker battery from Amazon. It's been working great since I got it.
I had my Anker battery tested yesterday at a "Batteries Plus" store. The clerk put a new battery in the phone to see if it would help the phone, but it did the same blue LED thing. He used a multimeter to test my battery and the new one the store was selling. He said mine had more power in it than the one on the shelf and indicated that either battery has more than enough power to start the phone. While this still could be caused by my battery, it does seem strange for a new battery that has charge in it to not allow the phone to start. I don't have an external charger, but I could always visit my parents as they each have an E4GT.

Brick
Just went thru that and you have the same EXACT symptoms as my emmc brick. Jtag will not help so don't waste the money. Plenty to read on the emmc bug in the E4GT and SGS2 forums.
I hate to be a downer but, I can guarantee you that you will not get any more than the dreaded blue light no matter what you do.
Take it to Sprint and let them go thru the entire process of trying to get it to boot and they may even give you some kind of excuse like "well I'm gonna take it to the back and disassemble it and see if the screen connection came loose".
They will never get it to boot and it is a hardware problem!!
Free replacement and may be backordered because this problem is happening to quite a few of the first run Galaxies.
I spent hours on the phone with "supposed techs" and went to 2 stores because my home store "child" said I must have gotten it wet and handed me a card with Asurion and said to contact them and I'd have to pay my deductible. BS, i wasn't paying for a hardware issue and YOU NEED TO TELL THEM THAT!!!
I spent a week and a half checking components (after they had taken it apart already at the store) while I waited on my replacement because I wanted what was on my internal memory and nothing. I know enough about electronic repair doing it my entire life since I was 12, that you will not get it back.
Sorry but like I'd said "i just went thru this 2 months ago" and plenty to read here on that situation.
They won't see any mod or even any display so you're safe with the Sprint techs. Just tell them when you woke up after setting your alarm, it was dead.
One good thing, is your replacement should be pretty safe from the emmc problem and download Chainfires app to see what chipset you get. (GotBrickBug)!!
I will say that everything was working fantastic on the Rom I was using and it wasnt due to a botched flash. I was taking a couple pictures and when I plugged it into my laptop, I'd noticed it must have shut down never to boot again. It could happen at anytime I'm noticing.

Teknician said:
Just went thru that and you have the same EXACT symptoms as my emmc brick. Jtag will not help so don't waste the money. Plenty to read on the emmc bug in the E4GT and SGS2 forums.
I hate to be a downer but, I can guarantee you that you will not get any more than the dreaded blue light no matter what you do.
Take it to Sprint and let them go thru the entire process of trying to get it to boot and they may even give you some kind of excuse like "well I'm gonna take it to the back and disassemble it and see if the screen connection came loose".
They will never get it to boot and it is a hardware problem!!
Free replacement and may be backordered because this problem is happening to quite a few of the first run Galaxies.
I spent hours on the phone with "supposed techs" and went to 2 stores because my home store "child" said I must have gotten it wet and handed me a card with Asurion and said to contact them and I'd have to pay my deductible. BS, i wasn't paying for a hardware issue and YOU NEED TO TELL THEM THAT!!!
I spent a week and a half checking components (after they had taken it apart already at the store) while I waited on my replacement because I wanted what was on my internal memory and nothing. I know enough about electronic repair doing it my entire life since I was 12, that you will not get it back.
Sorry but like I'd said "i just went thru this 2 months ago" and plenty to read here on that situation.
They won't see any mod or even any display so you're safe with the Sprint techs. Just tell them when you woke up after setting your alarm, it was dead.
One good thing, is your replacement should be pretty safe from the emmc problem and download Chainfires app to see what chipset you get. (GotBrickBug)!!
I will say that everything was working fantastic on the Rom I was using and it wasnt due to a botched flash. I was taking a couple pictures and when I plugged it into my laptop, I'd noticed it must have shut down never to boot again. It could happen at anytime I'm noticing.
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Thank you very much for the reply. My phone was having a strange issue with connecting to my home WiFi before I put it on the charger for the last time. I wonder if that was a tell-tale sign that something was up.
I went to the Sprint store closer to where I live and explained what happened. They didn't give me any argument at all. Their tech checked out my phone, but couldn't get it to power up at all. They ordered a replacement E4GT (might be new; might be refurbished) for me for $35. I should have it by Friday. I was surprised by how helpful they were. Apparently, they have see this issue occur on some other Android phones as well.
What is the Chainfires app? Does it identify if you have the "older" chipset which can cause the brick issue? That must be what you mean by "GotBrickBug," right?
Since I'm eligible for an upgrade in June, I think I'll just use the stock ROM to avoid any possible issues. I wonder if the GS4 will be out then. It's always interesting to see what the hot new phone is going to be when you're ready for an upgrade.
Again, thank you to everyone for the helpful replies!

Surprised they even had you pay but I'd have paid $35 also if they'd asked me too.
You should get either new or new board at least.
Here's Chainfire's thread and app in OP. By the looks of it, my chips firmware is updated and as much as I've tested and flashed in the last couple weeks, it's holding up great. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1693704
My first clue was that my phone was having problems being read by my PC. Couldn't see either the onboard usb or my external usb. It was intermittent and within a week it was gone.
Sprint has been seeing this problem for sure and in Chainfire's thread, Samsung is well aware.
Sent from my Blu Kuban FI27 E4GT SGS2 SPH~D710 (and whatever else they can call this phone) using Tapatalk 2

anindrew said:
I thought that it could be the battery. My original got bloated about a month or two ago, so I bought an Anker battery from Amazon. It's been working great since I got it.
I had my Anker battery tested yesterday at a "Batteries Plus" store. The clerk put a new battery in the phone to see if it would help the phone, but it did the same blue LED thing. He used a multimeter to test my battery and the new one the store was selling. He said mine had more power in it than the one on the shelf and indicated that either battery has more than enough power to start the phone. While this still could be caused by my battery, it does seem strange for a new battery that has charge in it to not allow the phone to start. I don't have an external charger, but I could always visit my parents as they each have an E4GT.
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Sounds like the h/w took a dump on you - the phone replacement was probably the only route left. By any chance did you leave it charging and/or in a location that allowed it to store heat? (Like a blanket, foam cushion, etc)

Teknician said:
Just went thru that and you have the same EXACT symptoms as my emmc brick. Jtag will not help so don't waste the money. Plenty to read on the emmc bug in the E4GT and SGS2 forums.
I will say that everything was working fantastic on the Rom I was using and it wasnt due to a botched flash. I was taking a couple pictures and when I plugged it into my laptop, I'd noticed it must have shut down never to boot again. It could happen at anytime I'm noticing.
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That's disturbing. I always thought that bug occurred when attempting to reset to defaults in the wrong way. I didn't think it could happen out of the blue.
In my case, which is awfully similar to the OP, my battery was running low, somewhere between 10 and 15%, and since I couldn't charge at the time, I powered down the phone. Next morning, I plugged it in to the usual wall charger and saw the battery charging symbol come up on screen as expected.
Instead of simply waiting for that screen to go off, I hit the power button to turn it off right away, but I might have inadvertently also pressed Vol Up with power or Vol Down with power, since I was doing it casually with one hand.
I didn't notice what might have happened right then, but a little later I saw that there was no charging LED. So I tried all the button combinations I knew to get it to come back to life, with and without the battery and power.
A couple times I got the blue light and then the battery charging screen, before it disappeared. Once I saw, in small print, "Battery low!! Can't Download," which makes me think that it's stuck in ODIN mode, which AFAIK doesn't support charging.
Right now I'm in the midst of looking for another battery or an external charger. I hope this is not what you're talking about.
Update the next day: I found this thread, which is essentially a match for what I was experiencing. That one ended with a wait-it-out approach, and I basically did the same. I left it plugged in overnight, even though it appeared not to be charging at all (stone cold, no red light). In the morning, it was still all but dead, but I popped out the battery again (I had done this many times before), replugged it into power, and then it charged normally and completely for the first time since the incident. Moral: don't let the phone go below 15%, and if you do, plug it in ASAP. Don't ignore it overnight, even if it's powered off (maybe especially).

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That's disturbing. I always thought that bug occurred when attempting to reset to defaults in the wrong way. I didn't think it could happen out of the blue.
In my case, which is awfully similar to the OP, my battery was running low, somewhere between 10 and 15%, and since I couldn't charge at the time, I powered down the phone. Next morning, I plugged it in to the usual wall charger and saw the battery charging symbol come up on screen as expected.
Instead of simply waiting for that screen to go off, I hit the power button to turn it off right away, but I might have inadvertently also pressed Vol Up with power or Vol Down with power, since I was doing it casually with one hand.
I didn't notice what might have happened right then, but a little later I saw that there was no charging LED. So I tried all the button combinations I knew to get it to come back to life, with and without the battery and power.
A couple times I got the blue light and then the battery charging screen, before it disappeared. Once I saw, in small print, "Battery low!! Can't Download," which makes me think that it's stuck in ODIN mode, which AFAIK doesn't support charging.
Right now I'm in the midst of looking for another battery or an external charger. I hope this is not what you're talking about.
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You're right - folks, this is not the eMMC bug. Let's just clear that up. If you need further information on that you can refer to the discussion thread on that bug and all the research that several folks have put into it.
When I first got my E4GT there was talk of a BLOD or "sleep of death" where the phone would not come back on. Wasn't the eMMC bug. Most people had a low battery so it was thought the batteries were too low and that it booted and messed up the bootloader. Others thought they overheated. Problem is without any way to diagnose the problem it's hard to come up with a "true" answer.
Perhaps a JTAG could revive the phones. Odd that even if plugged in that nothing is happening. But sometimes h/w really can just go south and trash a phone.

I highly suggest backing up your internal usb drive as frequently as possible because I lost a lot of photos that I never transfered, thanks to Samsung and my hardware taking a crap. Emmc blue light bug really sucks, believe me...
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rseiler said:
That's disturbing. I always thought that bug occurred when attempting to reset to defaults in the wrong way. I didn't think it could happen out of the blue.
In my case, which is awfully similar to the OP, my battery was running low, somewhere between 10 and 15%, and since I couldn't charge at the time, I powered down the phone. Next morning, I plugged it in to the usual wall charger and saw the battery charging symbol come up on screen as expected.
Instead of simply waiting for that screen to go off, I hit the power button to turn it off right away, but I might have inadvertently also pressed Vol Up with power or Vol Down with power, since I was doing it casually with one hand.
I didn't notice what might have happened right then, but a little later I saw that there was no charging LED. So I tried all the button combinations I knew to get it to come back to life, with and without the battery and power.
A couple times I got the blue light and then the battery charging screen, before it disappeared. Once I saw, in small print, "Battery low!! Can't Download," which makes me think that it's stuck in ODIN mode, which AFAIK doesn't support charging.
Right now I'm in the midst of looking for another battery or an external charger. I hope this is not what you're talking about.
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Doesn't sound like emmc at all. All you will have is a blue light and that's it. If you saw ANY display, it's probably a battery and charging issue. You'll know the bug when you don't see anything but blue and no display at all.
Sent from my Blu Kuban FI27 E4GT SGS2 SPH~D710 (and whatever else they can call this phone) using Tapatalk 2

anindrew, how did it all turn out?

Xperia S dead?

Hello,
My Xperia S which I bought in August 2012 doesn't boot anymore. A few weeks after I bought it, I unlocked the Bootlader and installed custom Kernels and ROMs and it worked fine all the time. I was on KA 22.1 SSpeed and Advanced Stock 17 and wanted to try something else, so I installed XZXperience 2 and the Elite V2-Kernel.
Well, after that, the phone worked fine but I noticed some heavy battery drain. Charging took waaay longer than usual (full charge about 4 hours with the plug) and the drain was immense. BetterBatteryStats showed me a Deep Sleep of 98 % while I lost about 15 % of battery life in ONE hour, that can't be somehow. The phone however worked still fine.
So I decided to flash the Advanced Stock Kernel again but the drain didn't stop, it was as before. I thought that the Battery Stats are maybe corrupted, so I let the phone discharge itself completely (didn't take long) and wanted to charge it fully. When I plugged in the charging cable, the first unusual thing was, that the red light appeared instantly upon connecting. Normally it would take a second or so. The second thing is, there was no logo, no battery symbol, just nothing but the red light when I plugged the cable in.
I slept a night and after I woke up, I disconnected the cable and wanted to start the phone, but nothing happened. Still, the only thing the phone does, is lighting red, when it's plugged in. Fastboot or Flash-Mode don't work, the computer doesn't recognize anything.
So...what to do? it appeared after I flashed the new ROM and Kernel, but I don't think it has something to do with them...the drain was also there with the Advanced Stock Kernel. Although I must say, that I often had flashing errors, often the device said something like:
format_volume make_extf4fs failed on /dev/block/mmcblk1p2
To me, it looks like the battery has a deep discharge and is dead, but I don't know, what could I probably do before sending it in? If the battery is dead the warranty should still be there, even with the unlocked bootlader, am I right?
Best regards

when you power on your phone what happen?

Ur phone boots while charging,but not charging.If this the case keep ur phone in ur hands for 10-15 min.Enter into recovery while led is pink.Flash other kernel.Else take the battery out charge it,enter into recovery flash other kernel
Sent from my Xperia S using xda premium

mharckk said:
when you power on your phone what happen?
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The phone doesn't start at all, nothing happens, when I push the power button.
RISHI RAJ said:
Ur phone boots while charging,but not charging.If this the case keep ur phone in ur hands for 10-15 min.Enter into recovery while led is pink.Flash other kernel.Else take the battery out charge it,enter into recovery flash other kernel
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I can't go into recovery, because the phone does nothing, I can't start it. There's still warranty on the phone, so I'd rather not like to remove the battery...

ok so its no screen at all,
when u pressed power+volume up for 10 seconds does it vibrate?

Already tried, it doesn't...even after holding for minutes.

Sliverer said:
Already tried, it doesn't...even after holding for minutes.
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You could open the phone and disconnect the battery, or let the phone sit long enough for it the battery to die.
This will reset the phone.
Only problem is how long to let the battery die, as there is no way to tell.
Once the phone resets make flashtool ready to flash just the kernel, and use a rubber band to hold the volume down button in.
With flashtool waiting and button pressed plug in to PC.
It should give red led for about 10 minutes then flash.
You can read more tips & tricks in the RECOVERY thread in my signature.
From Jaramie's LT28at

Well, the incident happened a few weeks ago and after I charged it over night and it didn't work, I left it there for nearly two weeks and nothing has changed so far. In your post, you said, that you had to wait for 51 hours until your battery died but two weeks is quite long I think...
What do you suggest? I think, I'll send it in, if the battery is broken, the warranty should cover it.

Sliverer said:
Well, the incident happened a few weeks ago and after I charged it over night and it didn't work, I left it there for nearly two weeks and nothing has changed so far. In your post, you said, that you had to wait for 51 hours until your battery died but two weeks is quite long I think...
What do you suggest? I think, I'll send it in, if the battery is broken, the warranty should cover it.
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I would call Sony and get the ball rolling on a warranty claim.
Sorry for your loss, and good luck
From Jaramie's LT28at

Sliverer said:
Well, the incident happened a few weeks ago and after I charged it over night and it didn't work, I left it there for nearly two weeks and nothing has changed so far. In your post, you said, that you had to wait for 51 hours until your battery died but two weeks is quite long I think...
What do you suggest? I think, I'll send it in, if the battery is broken, the warranty should cover it.
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Simple fix I think. This has worked for Xperia S and Xperia U. Both phone i brought as "DAMAGED". LOL. Battery is toooooo dead for the phone to detect it..... Use a wall charger to charge the battery up . I used a charger off ebay ($2 including post) that was for a Galaxy I9000 battery (old phone) and used wires and taped them to the battery..... Didn't even need to fully charge it! just like a jump start sort of thing...
Came up with the idea as at work we have to "jumpstart" car batteries to trick the charger into charging them
If you have a DC power source that puts out 4.2v at 350mA +/- 50mA then TRY IT and please let me know.
Stifilz

Well, I have a lithium charger for round-type-batteries, but we're talking about lithium here and if the battery is really damaged, it could be quite dangerous to charge it. The output of the charger is 1A, too, quite a bit higher.
I tried a last thing and took the battery out but it still only shows a red light while charging, so I'm going to try to send it in.

R: Xperia S dead?
IT happened The same for Me...
I was very worried..
I plugged to charge for 21h... Unplugged but Nothing!!
So i replugged iT and watched for 1H.. Suddenly IT Booted(But opened only logo Sony And Crashed!) So i Tried to unplugg and power on the phone but nothing.. No booted!!
So after 25m iT rebooted and like a furet i dropped my phone from The table and like a crazy tried to go in recovery.. So it Gone in Recovery i've Wiped ALL And Reinstalled Fw-Kernel.
So now i'm using The Xperia S
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app

Sliverer said:
Well, I have a lithium charger for round-type-batteries, but we're talking about lithium here and if the battery is really damaged, it could be quite dangerous to charge it. The output of the charger is 1A, too, quite a bit higher.
I tried a last thing and took the battery out but it still only shows a red light while charging, so I'm going to try to send it in.
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Still not going then??? Might as well order a charger for a couple of bucks off ebay...

All right, I got my phone back from the support, they repaired it and it's working now.

mharckk said:
ok so its no screen at all,
when u pressed power+volume up for 10 seconds does it vibrate?
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i have the same problem, if i put to charge just red led comes.
and if i press power+vol up nothing happens.. some time later the red led went off so then i tried power+vol up i got 3 vibration,
but phone is not booting, so i tried to charge later red led came in while but now power + vol up is also not working.
please help. i have Xperia SL (LT26ii), sorry for bad english.
Thank you

paddukutti said:
i have the same problem, if i put to charge just red led comes.
and if i press power+vol up nothing happens.. some time later the red led went off so then i tried power+vol up i got 3 vibration,
but phone is not booting, so i tried to charge later red led came in while but now power + vol up is also not working.
please help. i have Xperia SL (LT26ii), sorry for bad english.
Thank you
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have you tried this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849170

you didnt brick it did you?

Thanks
mharckk said:
have you tried this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849170
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Thank u sooooo much buddy..
i got enough knowledge by this link, but i tried different tweak method to get my phone back with help of this link which you suggested..

Еxtreme overheating

Hello xda members,
So i will go straight to my problem.
Yesterday I left my Z5 Premium to charge over night (for like 4-5 hours). When i get up for work, I disconnected it from charger and quickly checked my phone (standard route - messenger, line app) those actions didn't take longer than 2 minutes. After that i left my on couch and went to bathroom. When i came back phone was super hot and with black screen. Tried to turn it on and off but nothing happened and decided to don't touch it and wait for it to cool down. Unfortunately it's been over 24 hours since that happened and still phone didn't even vibrate when i try to turn it on.
I started to thinking that battery or cpu is gone (when i put it back to charger again start to get super hot).
Thanks in advance!
Best Regards,
Stanimir Hristov.

Xshad3 said:
Hello xda members,
So i will go straight to my problem.
Yesterday I left my Z5 Premium to charge over night (for like 4-5 hours). When i get up for work, I disconnected it from charger and quickly checked my phone (standard route - messenger, line app) those actions didn't take longer than 2 minutes. After that i left my on couch and went to bathroom. When i came back phone was super hot and with black screen. Tried to turn it on and off but nothing happened and decided to don't touch it and wait for it to cool down. Unfortunately it's been over 24 hours since that happened and still phone didn't even vibrate when i try to turn it on.
I started to thinking that battery or cpu is gone (when i put it back to charger again start to get super hot).
Thanks in advance!
Best Regards,
Stanimir Hristov.
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Is the phone hot towards the top part (cpu) or bottom/middle (battery)?
Sounds like you have an app that's stuck and running the cpu at max frequency constantly...did you install/update any app before the problem arose? If so, uninstall/downgrade it and see...
Are you using Flat Style Colored Bars by any chance? If you do and are running version 2.1.0 as it's known to cause cpu overheat, if it's the case downgrade to the previous version...
One last thing, have tried to force power down the phone (power button/volume up combo) that might fix a stuck app...

Xshad3 said:
Hello xda members,
So i will go straight to my problem.
Yesterday I left my Z5 Premium to charge over night (for like 4-5 hours). When i get up for work, I disconnected it from charger and quickly checked my phone (standard route - messenger, line app) those actions didn't take longer than 2 minutes. After that i left my on couch and went to bathroom. When i came back phone was super hot and with black screen. Tried to turn it on and off but nothing happened and decided to don't touch it and wait for it to cool down. Unfortunately it's been over 24 hours since that happened and still phone didn't even vibrate when i try to turn it on.
I started to thinking that battery or cpu is gone (when i put it back to charger again start to get super hot).
Thanks in advance!
Best Regards,
Stanimir Hristov.
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FACEBOOK MESSENGER, and LINE MESSENGER are the worse apps i have observed over the years using mobile resources.
if I were you, i would have done following with my z5p
1. Press and hold the Power button and the Volume Up button at the same time ( FIVE SECONDS MAX). The device will vibrate 3 times, release THE BUTTONS IMMEDIATELY !!!, this will soft reset your phone. leave for few minutes and restart. if it doesn't restart, plug the charger and see if its charging. Once charged, start your device.
2. I would have uninstalled many apps which i don't use. for example bloatware,
3. since my device is rooted, i have installed PURIFY with root access granted and it stops AUTO STARTING apps by default and having notification access panel. the only apps i want to have auto start i have manually screened them. this apps overall HELPS me big time. it works on NON ROOTED phones also! but not to its full potential.

The problem is that i can't make phone to start. Even when i put it to charge still doesnt indicate anything (screen is black, no vibrate, no led indication) thats why i created this thread.

Xshad3 said:
The problem is that i can't make phone to start. Even when i put it to charge still doesnt indicate anything (screen is black, no vibrate, no led indication) thats why i created this thread.
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if all above what me and DM said isn't helping then you must take the device to SONY TECH SHOP and let them look at your device!

Xshad3 said:
The problem is that i can't make phone to start. Even when i put it to charge still doesnt indicate anything (screen is black, no vibrate, no led indication) thats why i created this thread.
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You might have soft brick your phone... But you still should be able to recover it...it might take a bit longer though, your battery is completely drained...
Read this thread, it's old but should still be relevant...
You never answered my questions though, did you install or updated or did anything in particular before the phone started to act up?

-DM- said:
You might have soft brick your phone... But you still should be able to recover it...it might take a bit longer though, your battery is completely drained...
Read this thread, it's old but should still be relevant...
You never answered my questions though, did you install or updated or did anything in particular before the phone started to act up?
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No. I made settings to update only when phone is charging and is connected to wifi. Even made it to disable all data transfer while is locked. Phone itself isn't rooted and im using same apps since i bought phone.

Xshad3 said:
No. I made settings to update only when phone is charging and is connected to wifi. Even made it to disable all data transfer while is locked. Phone itself isn't rooted and im using same apps since i bought phone.
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Is your phone still completely Unresponsive?
Did you try to leave on a charge to see if it shows any sign of life (led coming up)
Go check that thread that I posted, you'll bring it back to life...
They're hard to brick unless it's an hardware problem otherwise they can take a beating trust me

Hello again.
Just want to leave a quick update:
After finally I got free time I read thread that suggested me to read and started to attempting to revive phone. It's been an hour since I put phone on charger. Still no red led. Only "hot" area is at shell that covers CPU - area that is in red circle.
Everything else is cold. CPU temperature is around 38-42°C pretty normal I would say. So how much time I should leave to charge? Last time when phone was running battery was on 100% (last Friday).
Update 2:
I measured voltage of battery and it's 2.81V
I will leave it to charge till I sleep and tomorrow will need to purchase new battery.
When I bought phone I had problems with battery but with last update from SONY I managed to use phone for 3 days with one charge (normal use - few captured pictures, an hour games, 30 minutes watching Californication on Netflix and FB and Line - less than 10 minutes).
So can you recommend me an site where I can purchase new battery (I want to be original if possible)?
Best Regards,
Stanimir Hristov

Well guys I have bad news. Problem is in hardware.
After I left phone to charge over night when I woke up I unplugged charger and measured voltage of battery. The results was bad: voltage of battery was 0V. Then I unplugged battery and put phone to charge without connected battery to measure what voltage is going to battery and it was 0.61V.
So thanks again for trying to help me and encouraging to fix problem.