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Battery life

Some of the reviews are calling the 5X battery life atrocious. No idea how this is possible without bloatware, newer hardware and a decent battery + marshmallow.... Even the 6P is getting bad reviews in this department. Can anyone comment here?

Reviews are all over the place, aren't they? Not uniformly negative.
This one, for example, is very positive.
The reviews mostly use scripts and the like anyway. Real world results from the forums are probably more informative.

People kept saying the same thing with the Nexus 5 battery being horrific. With my usage and what I had installed I can get 14-15 hours before I have to plug it in. My other devices are about the same except of few devices like the Xperia when I have stamina mode on.
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Well, let's take a look :
The screen is %4 and the battery is %17 bigger than Nexus 5.
If we add a little bit more efficient battery advantage and a new IPS panel to this equation we can expect maximum %18-20 better battery performance than Nexus 5. That's all.
It means if you get 3h of SOT with your Nexus 5 you may except maximum 3h and 30-40 min SOT with Nexus 5X.
So no need to be too pessimist but also optimist.
Expectations mostly ruin the life...

How good is the nexus 5x?

I am looking to get a new phone and for a while I've been using a windows phone. The Lumia 640(terrible) to be exact. I then got a galaxy s3 from my friend and forgot just how awesome android is. I was looking to get the s5 but then the nexus 5x caught my eye. Now I know the nexus 5x is mid range but with the newer snapdragon 808 chip and the hexacore processor does it beat the s5 in performance? Both phones have only 2GB of ram and although the s5 does have a higher clock speed i cant help but think the nexus could out perfom it. Has anyone had experience with the two phones? I don't know what I should do.

I would say performance will be similar. Do you care about getting official updates? GS5 is EOL, Nexus 5x is good till Sept of next year.

JJHunterx said:
I would say performance will be similar. Do you care about getting official updates? GS5 is EOL, Nexus 5x is good till Sept of next year.
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I do like the fact that the 5x receives updates faster and runs on stock android. If the performance should be similar than I might go with the 5x because of how fast it charges and because it also has the fingerprint scanner. I know the s5 has a scanner but i don't like how you have to swipe

JJHunterx said:
I would say performance will be similar. Do you care about getting official updates? GS5 is EOL, Nexus 5x is good till Sept of next year.
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Sigh, that's only like 15 more months of support/updates. I haven't been in this community long enough to know if devs for ROMs continue to take the latest Android source code and make builds for unsupported devices?

herBosaurus said:
Sigh, that's only like 15 more months of support/updates. I haven't been in this community long enough to know if devs for ROMs continue to take the latest Android source code and make builds for unsupported devices?
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They do, just check the Nexus 4 forums, that phone was released almost 4 years ago and has multiple Android 6 ROMs available. Even the Galaxy Nexus, released in November 2011, has a couple available.

Jacquestrapp said:
They do, just check the Nexus 4 forums, that phone was released almost 4 years ago and has multiple Android 6 ROMs available. Even the Galaxy Nexus, released in November 2011, has a couple available.
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even my old galaxy S1 is running MM thanks to xda

Broken303 said:
even my old galaxy S1 is running MM thanks to xda
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That's crazy!!

I own these two phones right now. nexus 5X is only better for camera and stock software experience and fingerprint scanner ....rest everything is better in s5( i.e display,battery, sound/speaker, waterproofing, storage options, camera is not bad either but slow focus) i dont see any difference in real life between snapdragon 801 or 808..Funny thing is i can charge s5 much faster with s6 charger as compare to charging speed of nexus 5x with type c cable

herBosaurus said:
Sigh, that's only like 15 more months of support/updates. I haven't been in this community long enough to know if devs for ROMs continue to take the latest Android source code and make builds for unsupported devices?
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that's the MINIMUM. Nexus 5 got Android M direct from Google and it was past it's EOL date

Does anyone else have anything to say. The thing that really concerns me about the phone is battery life. Is it really as bad as people say? How are colors on the nexus 5x? accurate? and how fast does it really charge?

BakedOnSomeSour said:
Does anyone else have anything to say. The thing that really concerns me about the phone is battery life. Is it really as bad as people say? How are colors on the nexus 5x? accurate? and how fast does it really charge?
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I get about 5hrs SOT if I let my battery run to 0%-5% which I rarely do. Projecting based off of 12+ hrs on battery with 50% left with 2hrs+ SOT. 15% brightness, location off and WiFi on for 85% of the time. BT for 45 mins with music streaming. So, it's solid battery life for me.
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BakedOnSomeSour said:
Does anyone else have anything to say. The thing that really concerns me about the phone is battery life. Is it really as bad as people say? How are colors on the nexus 5x? accurate? and how fast does it really charge?
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I'm a pretty light user so I get over a day on a charge. GSAM battery monitor says my averages are 1d 5h average per charge with 6h 15m active. It also says my average SOT is about 4h. Those stats are from about 2 weeks ago when I got the phone. I suspect this is the best I will get and as it ages the life will diminish. Compared to the old S3 I came from this is great. For charging I was at about 14% this morning and with the stock charger went from 15% to 85% in one hour of charging. To me that's pretty fast charge.

BakedOnSomeSour said:
Does anyone else have anything to say. The thing that really concerns me about the phone is battery life. Is it really as bad as people say? How are colors on the nexus 5x? accurate? and how fast does it really charge?
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Battery life lasts a day quite easily, 2 days with lighter usage. It charges very quickly, 25% in just 15 minutes.
More accurate colours than the similar panel used in the iPhone 6s as shown by Anandtech.
You get high end features on this device for a mid range price.

BakedOnSomeSour said:
Does anyone else have anything to say. The thing that really concerns me about the phone is battery life. Is it really as bad as people say? How are colors on the nexus 5x? accurate? and how fast does it really charge?
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About battery life, i'm a heavy user, everything always on (wifi, GPS, bluetooth, data) and I get 3h - 3h30 with 10 % battery left.
About the screen, I own a Galaxy Note II, and I'm really very happy to leave the flashy amoled screen, Nexus 5X's screen is much better for my eyes and the colors are more accurate. I just miss the deep dark of the amoled
Full charge from 10 % takes about 1 - 1h30, it's really fast.
So the battery life is not so good, not enough to last a day for my use, but I charge it on my car going to work and coming back home with a 2A charger and it's also fast.

It is definitely a solid device. I just picked up the Moto X Pure from Best Buy as a Deal Of The Day for $160 off and the camera is quite similar telling me the X does really have a phenomenal camera. The Marshmallow on the MXP is pretty dang stock as well so can't claim anything for either there but would say that the camera is great on 5X personally and the updates are a huge thing for me as well. Screen is phenomenally accurate on 5X but battery is a huge difference. I get around 5H bone stock on MXP and about 3H on Nexus 5X. They both have to be charged at around 8-10% every night and that is all so just telling you through the full day I'll get around those numbers on each device from normal heavy texting and FB Messenger alongside a lot of Bluetooth Audio from GP Music and maybe 30m each day for calls and not much gaming nor anything over 15m of video playing on FB or YT. I'll tell you as well that the signal seems to be slightly stronger keeping LTE in a tiny bit of more places on the MXP as well. The battery life on N5X is terrible compared to what you'd get BUT you also adapt and don't quite use your phone for the useless junk to compensate for it as well. Hopefully it helps SOMEHOW.

What's the battery life like?

Spec-wise, this phone seems great, with the glaring exception of the battery's size.
I'm hoping someone with the phone could let me know, ideally as detailed as possible, what the battery life is like. Thanks!

duraaraa said:
Spec-wise, this phone seems great, with the glaring exception of the battery's size.
I'm hoping someone with the phone could let me know, ideally as detailed as possible, what the battery life is like. Thanks!
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Initial tests mentioned a screen on time of 4h+, which is nothing to write home about.
On another hand, even though we have a "mere" 3k mAh battery & 5.7" screen, the latter is amoled, which should offer considerable savings as compared to LCD.
I'm waiting for my unit to be shipped, will do some tests & share.

adwinp said:
Initial tests mentioned a screen on time of 4h+, which is nothing to write home about.
On another hand, even though we have a "mere" 3k mAh battery & 5.7" screen, the latter is amoled, which should offer considerable savings as compared to LCD.
I'm waiting for my unit to be shipped, will do some tests & share.
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This is why it is somewhat tempting to go with the $399 5.5" model and the Snapdragon 625. You lose a bit from the 5.7" SD 820: no AMOLED, smaller sensor in the camera, only 4 GB of RAM, but based on battery tests with other phones with the 625, the life could be better than the 820 model.
Review units in the U.S. are starting to appear, TechnoBuffalo recently received their 5.7" and did a quick preview on it.

FYI. PCMagazine has a review up of the 5.7", SD 820 version. They managed about 7 1/4 hours on their video run-down test. The Axon 7 with the same test ran about 6 hours, Samsung S7 Edge, around 10(!).

eelpout said:
FYI. PCMagazine has a review up of the 5.7", SD 820 version. They managed about 7 1/4 hours on their video run-down test. The Axon 7 with the same test ran about 6 hours, Samsung S7 Edge, around 10(!).
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They panned the phone though. TechnoBuffalo loved it, but PC Mag said the camera was shoddy and the UI is absurdly intrusive.
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CattleRancher said:
They panned the phone though. TechnoBuffalo loved it, but PC Mag said the camera was shoddy and the UI is absurdly intrusive.
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CNet liked the regular Zenfone 3 in a recent review. Though they too, thought the Zen UI was way too heavy. Seems to be a problem with some of the imported Android phones lately.
At this point I won't get a Deluxe unless it can be rooted, which I think is likely to happen based on Zenfone 3 progress.

It's the best thing you can atheistically look at. Battery life will get you one day of strong usage. Which combined with USB type-c that's nothing to be bothered by. I'd give the overall phone a solid 8.5 out of 10.

Battery life is terrible.
The same apps I use with no issues on other devices (including other sd820) cause a severe battery drain on the z3d.
My guess is the power management policy in the HAL, framework, or issues with the scheduler on the kernel level.
Initial investigation points to communication apps (Riot, Conversations), which cause a lot of wakelocks (then again, no such issues on other devices).
Once (& if) we have a bootloader unlock, this will be one of the first topics to address in custom kernel builds or custom rom builds.

I go ten hours at work with 2 plus screen time, 30-45 minutes on phone, 3 emails syncing, Facebook, instagram, Snapchat, two phone numbers, and I leave with 50% battery.
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I'm in the same boat as mostly everyone else here. I'm heavily on my phone while at work as well (roughly 6 hours of constant use on most days with heavy internet usage as well). I stay at work 2 days in a row every 3 days, and in that time frame, I still go home with 30-40% battery still left on my phone.
If I were still using my note 4, I would have had to put the phone e on the charger twice a day for both of those days.
Plus, with the dual SIM feature, I don't have to carry around a work phone. My boss was more than happy to get me a nano SIM for my pho e when he found out both my work phone and personal phone would be one in the same and easier to contact.
So yeah, with the above stated, for me, the battery life is way better than what I have put up with on the note 4 for the past 2 years.

Battery is great for me. I don't have a SIM yet but use Google hangouts/Voice# and am constantly on my phone browsing and using different apps. I charged it 7 hours ago, it has 3 hours of screen on time so far, and battery is at 57%. It says it has 9 hours left (based on my current rate, I will probably hut around 7 hours of screen on time. That is on High Performance, though also without a mobile network connected. I am constantly connected to and using wifi though and location is on too.)
Plus with QC3, my phone charges from dead to full in an hour. It is crazy fast.
Edit: Correction, I am in Power Saving mode as I guess I clicked into it when prompted last time my battery drained and forgot to switch back. Didn't notice a performance difference though so maybe I'll stick with this mode until I play a game. Next time I recharge, I will put it in High Performance and record my Screen on time then.

V30 and Pixel 2 XL excellent battery life - Could it be the display?

I've been reading great reviews on battery life for the Pixel 2 XL and that has got me wondering if the LG POLED screen may be to credit for the excellent battery life and screen on times?
Chris Chavez from Phandroid writes that he sees 5-6 hours of SoT on average (http://phandroid.com/2017/10/28/pixel-2-xl-battery-life-review/)
Joe Maring from Android Central talks about great battery life (https://www.androidcentral.com/pixel-2-xl-how-it-stacks-my-lofty-expectations)
Andrew Martonik from Android Central (https://www.androidcentral.com/google-pixel-2-review)
While I do strongly believe the display plays a huge role, I can't figure out why the display is so much more efficient on the V30 - I can consistently get over 7 hours of SoT on a 3300 mAh battery vs the Pixel 2 XL's 3520 mAh battery (and running Oreo). Thoughts?

Screen helps. Newest Snapdragon chip helps. I'm sure there is a ton of software and other hardware optimizations too. The manufacturers are kinda cornered into a certain size/format that the public is willing to accept for size for a phone. So until there's a massive revolution in battery tech, they'll have to squeeze optimizations everywhere else.

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While I do strongly believe the display plays a huge role, I can't figure out why the display is so much more efficient on the V30 - I can consistently get over 7 hours of SoT on a 3300 mAh battery vs the Pixel 2 XL's 3520 mAh battery (and running Oreo). Thoughts?
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It's the display. Period
And Pixel 2 xl is less battery efficient while on the same time more smooth, fluid. It has way more actual governor that sets CPU to highest frequency when user interacts hence power drains faster. But there's no lags in Pixel 2 xl OTOH

Billy Madison said:
It's the display. Period
And Pixel 2 xl is less battery efficient while on the same time more smooth, fluid. It has way more actual governor that sets CPU to highest frequency when user interacts hence power drains faster. But there's no lags in Pixel 2 xl OTOH
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I'll take this screen and its brilliant battery life even with its "imperfections". I don't notice any of the issues save for the blue tint, which doesn't bother me because I never look at my phone from that angle. Coming from an S7 edge, I was lucky to get 6 hours of SoT. On this phone, I'm regularly seeing 7+ even though it has a smaller battery.

Question Pixel 6 Pro 5005 mAh vs. iPhone 13 Pro Max 4352 mAh

I'm trying to decide between these two and and battery life (SOT) will be the deciding factor for me. I've never owned an iPhone or a Pixel before so I'm not sure what to expect with the Pro's battery life while the Max has been getting universal accolades for its SOT. I've always been an android guy (galaxy notes mostly) and don't like apple (variety of reasons) but the new 13 pro max has set the standard when it comes to hardware with the best camera & video capabilities and now battery life so I'm reluctantly considering it.
I understand in some ways it's not fair to compare these two flagships considering their price difference so I don't expect the 6 pro to match the Max toe to toe with and that's ok. Since they both utilize an LTPO display though I guess it all comes down to software utilization when it comes to their SOT. On paper and looking at the battery specs- the 6 pro should wipe the floor with the Pro Max but since I've never owned a google phone I'm not sure how that'll translate in real life.
Past Pixel and future 6 Pro owners- what are your expectations when it comes to battery life/ SOT once you get your 6 Pros? Do you expect to come close to a full 2 days battery life before having to charge it? If anyone has owned/ will own both please feel free to share your your SOT experience and which one you feel is better.
In short will the Pixel 6 Pro match or even exceed the 13 Pro Max's battery life?
Thanks!

Android over IOS for me any day,daughter has iPhone 13 pro ,be carefully some features only available if you buy the larger storage options

Wait till the reviews on monday

combat goofwing said:
Android over IOS for me any day,daughter has iPhone 13 pro ,be carefully some features only available if you buy the larger storage options
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you mean for the iphone 13 pro has limited features due to large storage?

dj24 said:
I'm trying to decide between these two and and battery life (SOT) will be the deciding factor for me. I've never owned an iPhone or a Pixel before so I'm not sure what to expect with the Pro's battery life while the Max has been getting universal accolades for its SOT. I've always been an android guy (galaxy notes mostly) and don't like apple (variety of reasons) but the new 13 pro max has set the standard when it comes to hardware with the best camera & video capabilities and now battery life so I'm reluctantly considering it.
I understand in some ways it's not fair to compare these two flagships considering their price difference so I don't expect the 6 pro to match the Max toe to toe with and that's ok. Since they both utilize an LTPO display though I guess it all comes down to software utilization when it comes to their SOT. On paper and looking at the battery specs- the 6 pro should wipe the floor with the Pro Max but since I've never owned a google phone I'm not sure how that'll translate in real life.
Past Pixel and future 6 Pro owners- what are your expectations when it comes to battery life/ SOT once you get your 6 Pros? Do you expect to come close to a full 2 days battery life before having to charge it? If anyone has owned/ will own both please feel free to share your your SOT experience and which one you feel is better.
In short will the Pixel 6 Pro match or even exceed the 13 Pro Max's battery life?
Thanks!
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Gapps, by far, are the worst offender when it comes to battery life. With a little bit of effort and root, you can tame them to a significant degree. With some determination, you can replace them entirely with something that is more supportive of your freedom (I've *completely* replaced all goog with a self-hosted instance of Nextcloud and I don't install gapps -- not even microG).
But here is the thing about battery life. Its not even reasonable to measure it in ways its usually presented, because what it really comes down to is (a) usage, and (b) network connection. Screen on, but doing nothing, will use a lot less battery than screen on, and running video gamez.
As far as camera and video capabilities go... apple people will praise apple. Look for INDEPENDENT and CRITICAL reviews to get something more honest. I really doubt that they have anything on the P6's. Google's been ahead in photography for years now, and its really burning the fruit company since in the before-time, its the ONLY thing they actually had. Now they don't even have that.

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Yes if you get the standard storage the cinematic mode doesn't record in 4k ,there's a couple of other little things like that

combat goofwing said:
Yes if you get the standard storage the cinematic mode doesn't record in 4k ,there's a couple of other little things like that
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Without really giving a crap, I'm going to guess that they are going to claim that its because the flash chips are in RAID-0 so won't be fast enough without the bigger (more chips) option.

96carboard said:
Gapps, by far, are the worst offender when it comes to battery life. With a little bit of effort and root, you can tame them to a significant degree. With some determination, you can replace them entirely with something that is more supportive of your freedom (I've *completely* replaced all goog with a self-hosted instance of Nextcloud and I don't install gapps -- not even microG).
But here is the thing about battery life. Its not even reasonable to measure it in ways its usually presented, because what it really comes down to is (a) usage, and (b) network connection. Screen on, but doing nothing, will use a lot less battery than screen on, and running video gamez.
As far as camera and video capabilities go... apple people will praise apple. Look for INDEPENDENT and CRITICAL reviews to get something more honest. I really doubt that they have anything on the P6's. Google's been ahead in photography for years now, and its really burning the fruit company since in the before-time, its the ONLY thing they actually had. Now they don't even have that.
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I agree with most of what you said. Pixels have undoubtedly been the camera champs maybe equaled by more recent Huawei flagships. However there's no question that iPhones have had the best video quality of any one out there for a while now. This is all here and there and I don't really care that much anymore because the gap isn't that big unless you're an enthusiast or someone zooming or pixel peeping (which I'm not... for the most part }
I also agree with you about apps in general but you can nowadays put them in deep sleep so they barely use any in the background for the most part. I don't use a lot of apps but it's interesting since you bring up a good point as to whether ios does a better job than android when it comes to battery optimization. I'll have to do more research on that.
I think different companies like Motorolla, Realme and others have great battery optimization while the mainstream ones less so. Now Apple seems to have made a leap in this regard too. Gsmarena has a great tool to measure overall battery life and just look at this list where android phones (mostly not found stateside) dominate.

Previous Iphones weren't any good when it came to battery life. Apples forum is flooded with people complaining about battery life which is why they spent a lot of time talking about the improved battery life on the iPhone 13. My last iPhone was the iPhone X and it would only last me 6 hours of medium usage.

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Previous Iphones weren't any good when it came to battery life. Apples forum is flooded with people complaining about battery life which is why they spent a lot of time talking about the improved battery life on the iPhone 13. My last iPhone was the iPhone X and it would only last me 6 hours of medium usage.
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That's why they call it Iphonie!

Why bother so much about the battery if both phones have a fast charger!!

DinarQ8 said:
Why bother so much about the battery if both phones have a fast charger!!
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Because youre not always near a plug socket

hello00 said:
Previous Iphones weren't any good when it came to battery life. Apples forum is flooded with people complaining about battery life which is why they spent a lot of time talking about the improved battery life on the iPhone 13. My last iPhone was the iPhone X and it would only last me 6 hours of medium usage.
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You're right but talking strictly flagship they've been incrementally improving since the 11 Pro Max. The 13 Pro Max has taken a drastic step forward even more so where I feel mainstream android in general (like Samsung) have to respond or they're going to lose potentially more people like me.
Anyways I see so far no one is predicting how the 6 pro's battery life will compare to the 13 max Pro.
I'll take a leap and say I think the tensor chip coupled with the LTPO display with google's clean android overlay will match the iphone 13 max's battery life

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In this COVID day and age where everyone is staying home mostly- not so much. But once you start going outside more you'll need it. Especially if you're an outdoors person like me.
I'm still nostalgic for the days where i use to carry 1 or 2 extra batteries in my wallet and pop off the back to switch them out which literally took 5 seconds. There was a time during a camping trip back in the day when out in the middle of nowhere, everyone's phone died after the first day. Everyone used mine for the next few days. I got lucky when a certain gorgeous gal walked in my tent in the middle of the night to use it and decided to stay after.... aah those were the days
Sorry... friday afternoon and I just popped open my 4th beer

The iPhone 12 lineup has problems with its quick battery drain as compared to other models. The 13 has improved quite a bit, but still not on pair with the s21u

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The iPhone 12 lineup has problems with its quick battery drain as compared to other models. The 13 has improved quite a bit, but still not on pair with the s21u
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Wait, you can't be serious? The S21 ultra can't hold a candle to the 13 Pro Max and it's not even close. It might compared to the lesser iPhone 13 models but that's not a fair comparison by any sense of the imagination.

I almost went Iphone 13 pro max this gen. Almost. You know why I didn't? No fingerprint sensor. I'm not about to go back to entering my pin every time I want to open my device and masks make face recognition worthless.

Well, the pixel has a lot to live up to. I think it'll beat the iphone in pics. But battery life? I'm getting 2 hours screen on time every 10 percent battery used. Ridiculously good. I hope the pixel can get near that. Doubt it though

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Well, the pixel has a lot to live up to. I think it'll beat the iphone in pics. But battery life? I'm getting 2 hours screen on time every 10 percent battery used. Ridiculously good. I hope the pixel can get near that. Doubt it though.
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Do you have the 13 pro max?

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I'm still nostalgic for the days where i use to carry 1 or 2 extra batteries in my wallet and pop off the back to switch them out which literally took 5 seconds.
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We all missd these days
For me, there will be no difference in battery life if there is an hour or hour and a half increase
I won't be outside for 24 hours and when I go out I don't use the phone for more than 6 hours