Mine has died. Repairing it will cost the same as buying a new tablet pretty much.
What is the closest replacement to this great piece of equipment?
Check your local craigslist. Search settings:
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Owner instead of all or dealer.
There are note 3's available in my area that aren't from a dealer from $100-150 undamaged. What is your price range btw?
Samsung did make a Galaxy Tab A 8 inch with S-pen but it would have to be imported to US as it wasn't for sale here, and it's about $275 on eBay from China and entry level specs, but I would buy one if they were in USA. If interested search sm-p355 on eBay or just p355. I had the Galaxy Tab A 9.7 S-pen version, but the low resolution was too hard to overcome, and 9.7 tablets are just bulky plain and simple.
Honestly I would just buy another Note 8 off eBay, but make sure it's a wifi only model not the ATT or T-mobile model as it a locked bootloader and the s-pen is several millimeters off in 4.4.2 and you'd be stuck. There's honestly not a good replacement in the 8 inch size at the moment. You can get a used one in good condition usually for $100.
Another of the same. Nothing like it or the market. See below...
Ratuken.Com has reconditioned Note 8.0's w/ Sim card slots (AT&T) for under $150. Typing on mine right now. Just replaced my original (cracked screen after 3 years of use). Love it! SIM not required, but now I have data on demand when out of WiFi range.
Search gosale'dot'com.
Check out the Galaxy Tab S2.
Personally I would never buy another Samsung tablet or phone again. Samsung's unwillingness to provide proper source and specs, and especially the specs of their proprietary Exynos CPU, along with not updating the OS for older devices, makes them a non-starter. Even as Nougat is rolling out we still don't have a stable Marshmallow release of CM13 for the Note 8 (and will never have either MM or N from Sammy). Personally I am unwilling to spend $400 every 2 or 3 years to have a current OS with current security updates.
If you have money to burn then consider the Google Pixel C. It is a premium tablet (at a premium price) with Marshmallow and a reasonable expectation of future OS support. If you are cheap like me then look at the Nvidia Shield K1 for "only" $200. It is quite powerful (the GPU is huge for games, etc), has a good display, and stereo front-facing speakers.
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Milkman, if you're wanting a tablet with active stylus in the same size I can't see any other option as an "upgrade". If you're just wanting a tablet then there's a ton of options that are better. The tab S2 8 inch is awesome if you're wanting to stick with Android and don't need the active stylus, or if you want to change to Apple iPad mini 4 is excellent, and offers very good performance over the S2 tablet. But all this said if you still need an active stylus get another Note 8.0, BUT make sure it's not on 4.4.2 because the S-pen is several millimeters off and can't be fixed without drastic software changes, and the ATT model has a locked bootloader so avoid that one.
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Is anyone have try to transfer spen feature into galaxy tab 3 8'0
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Is anyone have try to transfer spen feature into galaxy tab 3 8'0
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The S Pen APK's can be found easily enough, the problem is the screen doesn't support the pen. You can find a replacement screen for the Note 8 on eBay and then install it on your Tab 3. Personally I would just buy a EVGA Note 7 and call it day, you can probably sell your Tab 3 8 for the 200 dollar asking price of the EVGA. Your then getting a much, much, much faster tablet as the EVGA has the new Tegra 4, comes with a active digitizer pen which you can than install the S Pen software, an HDMI out port, so you don't have to fork over an additional 50 for the Samsung MHL HDMI adaptor and it has better build quality, actually one of toughest tablets I have seen. Then there is the best part, it's the closest to having a Nexus device without, well, buying a Nexus device. Pure Android, just a 350mb system OS footprint vs. the 2GB plus laggy mess that is TouchWiz. The updates are also released as fast as a Google Nexus device as this is a NVIDIA reference design, so no more waiting 8 months like with a Samsung.
Check it out here http://www.evga.com/articles/00790/
This is just suggestion if you want a fast, inexpensive tablet with pen support. If you decide to go with the first option let me know, I could help locate the parts and even help with the install by providing detailed instructions. I have a friend who works in the Tablet/Phone repair department for Interdiscount.ch here in Switzerland. Since the Samsung's have more problems than any other tablet manufacture that they sell he might actually have the parts your looking for on hand, his words, In fact when I bought a Tab 3 10.1 he called me an idiot and told me for every 3 sold, 1 is returned. I now know what he meant as I returned mine after only a few days and got the Nexus 10, I heard the Tab 3 8's are much better though. I will contact him on your behalf if your interested. I like visiting his workshop anyway, he always lets me steal a part or two for my Frankenstein projects.
In a sticky situation right now. My phone just died on Verizon and I need a new phone. Unfortunately I'm still under contract for another 9 months so I have to pay full price for a new phone or I can jump to Tmobile and have them pay my ETF but then I have to buy a phone from them. I don't want to spend more then $350 on something and I want to be able to unlock it and use it with AT&T at some point.
I can pick up the Note 2 as a refurb for $344 or I can get a Nexus 4 for $324. I guess what I'm wondering is whether or not the Note 2 is worth spending that much on?? Should I just ride out my contract for 9 months and get my old phone fixed (Razr Maxx HD $200 to fix)? Is there another phone I should consider?
Any thoughts appreciated.
Nexus 4 for $342?? I can't even sell my brand new Nexus 4 for $180 AUD.
I would not get a refurb Note II for $344, it's not worth it. You can get brand new for a bit more online.
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Nexus 4 for $342?? I can't even sell my brand new Nexus 4 for $180 AUD.
I would not get a refurb Note II for $344, it's not worth it. You can get brand new for a bit more online.
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If I pay $200 to get out of my contract with Verizon I can get anything. I'm looking at jumping to Tmobile since they'll cover the ETF cost. Only catch is I have to buy a phone from them. So whats a good Tmobile phone that will work on ATT under $350? I'm trying to do this as cheap as possible. Otherwise I would just cancel for $200 and get a nexus 5 for $400.
Hi there,
YES it is still worth buying the Note 2. I had both phones, Nexus 4 and Note 2 and the Nexus 4, compared to the Note 2, was garbage. Nexus 4s battery is small (mAh), display colors were washed out, the speaker was completely crap when listening to music, etc. That's just my experience.
Better get the Note 2
I moved on to the Galaxy S5 and maaaan, do I miss my Note 2. That's all I need to say LOL
Okay so price of the note 2 refurb'd w/tax and shipping is about $330. I know I can buy brand new on Amazon for roughly $60 more but I have to buy from Tmobile if I want my ETF covered and they only sell a refurb'd note 2.
I'll probably go this route then unless there are any other suggestions. Thanks!
Absolutely! Its still fast as hell, even on KitKat and Im sure will remain to be so for the near future.
Note 2 still kick ass and I love it. But I think u should get a newer phone.
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Note 2 still kick ass and I love it. But I think u should get a newer phone.
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If you can find it around $350 , I would say yes
I bought note 2 over s4 and i am perfectly satisfied
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I bought note 2 over s4 and i am perfectly satisfied
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I'd take Note 2 over S4 (even S5) any time!
Allow me give you my opinion on this. I strongly believe the Note 2 is a remarkable device for the following reasons and I would still chose it over any other phones.
- It still has one of the best battery life of Samsung devices. I know... the Note 3 has 100mah more but that doesn't suffice, having a 1080p screen, more pixels means more drainage. Also, it has a more powerful octa-core processor (a nice pro) but again with great power comes even greater battery drainage, remember that.... lol The Knox app components which constantly guards the phone from illegal privileged access is also a resource hog (RAM) and hiders the phone even more (coming from 4.3 I have that experience). Take a look at the Huawei Ascend Mate 2, they are doing it correctly... keeping 720p resolution (which is dense enough imo) and a gigantic 4050mah, make it the longest running phone (not tablet) on the market at the time of this writing.
- The screen is 720p, as I discussed already has its benefits on battery, furthermore, it is the only flagship device by Samsung that isn't pentile. This means full RGB sub-pixel for every single pixel. It is a true-HD display. While its not as dense as other phones, it still can hold its ground very well. I am scared for the note 4, Samsung will make it a 2k display, instead of focusing on what really matters. 2k on screens below 7inches is a waste of technology. 10-12 inch tablet with 2k displays and larger batteries, now you are talking.
- It is made polycarbonate plastic, as with all Samsung phones, can be regarded as a pro. As CPUs get faster it generates more heat. Metals heat very quickly and can make you feel uncomfortable when holding while running CPU-intensive tasks. I think even though metals can dissipate heat well, if run too long it, exposes the internals to heat and wear the internals faster. But one definite pro of polycarbonate is improved reception, I assure you, along with other benefits, naturally scratch resistant, lighter, and more durable. When I look at a phone, I don't care for "premium feel", I care for quality of operation.
- Lastly, camera. Sadly, I must admit the Note 2 doesn't have the top optics, as it improves rapidly with technology. But after lots and lots of reading and comparing, I found that the Galaxy S4 has produces the best quality/sharpness/color IHMO, bar NONE (not even Lumia 1020 which captures more detail, but fails at color reproduction). The Note 2 does inherit the S4's color reproduction traits, so that's good. But the best all-rounder (ie. in low light, good light, night mode etc) I have to give it to Iphone 5s. Well done Apple, even if you do not belong here. lol
Video strangely doesn't fall into the same category as photo, as the S4 gives murky, blurry 1080p videos. For the best video I nominate the S5 at 4k, clear even when zoomed in at the slightest detail, thanks to 16MP camera. This is improvement from what used to be the best, Note 3, which is blurred when zoomed in. No, optical image stabilization sadly, but that comes later. Even so the Note 2, doesn't slouch and gives its best in both categories. It also produces the loudest audio, and all devices after the S4 has poor speaker sound quality.
So, there you have it, my long explanation of why I would still choose the Note 2 over S4, Note 3, or S5, even if it breaks now. Samsung really hit the nail on the head when it made the S3/Note 2 generation, and I hope they will again someday. Was the very best, make history, and set a good example for generations to follow.
Thanks everyone! Definitely helped make this decision much easier than I thought it would be. My note 2 arrives today and then I'll active it with T-mobile. I plan on unlocking it after the 40 day wait period is up with T-mobile and bringing it over to AT&T. From my research that shouldn't be an issue as T-mobile and AT&T share all the same bands outside of one that AT&T uses for 4G LTE. Curious to know if anyone has done this previously?
On another note (no pun intended :laugh, I've been looking into installing a custom ROM once I get it. I love cyanogenmod but curious if there are other recommendations I should consider? This may need to be in another thread so I can move it if needed.
I bought my Note 2 about 450$ in Samsung brand shop at April 2014, it worth because my work need 3G always on to check email or contact with boss (my country not have 4G LTE)
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On another note (no pun intended :laugh, I've been looking into installing a custom ROM once I get it. I love cyanogenmod but curious if there are other recommendations I should consider? This may need to be in another thread so I can move it if needed.
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In my opinion, CyanogenMod isn't a good idea for this phone. It has some annoying bugs and you lose ALL the SPen features. I'd recommend you to install any TouchWiz based Rom.
Note 2 screen is outdated though.
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Yeah, original Note screen is better
I had a Note 2 and bought a Nexus 4 as backup when my Note 2 was being repaired. I was thinking that I might switch to Nexus as android is a big interest of mine and it would be wonderful to get all the new features quick.
It was a big relief to get my Note 2 back from the shop. The Nexus 4 doesn't last a whole day (with my usage pattern). The external speaker volume is to low. And its very slippery! (had to buy the LG bumper).
Recently upgraded to a Sony Z2 and it feels like a smaller upgrade than I expected, coming from the Note 2. Its was/is an awesome phone.
Hello everyone,
Note 7 is one of the priciest mobile devices ever sold by Samsung where, there were already many dissatisfied customers because of its price point, however, in light of the recent events that surrounded the release and the recall of Note 7 series do you think that Samsung will cut the price when they re-release the Note 7 "expected in October" ?
One point to consider is that IPhone 7 will be announced tomorrow and will be released at the same time as Note 7 if not sooner! and as we all know, one of the reasons that made Samsung advance the release date of the note series is to avoid direct competition with Apple.
What do you think? should we return our phones and get a refund and wait until Samsung re-release the note 7 so we can assess what would be their marketing strategy? or should we wait for Note 7 replacements?
I'm not returning it for refund. I just want a replacement. Price isn't important to me but I realise it is for some...but shouldn't those guys be looking at value brands Oneplus etc anyway without shouting Samsung is too expensives? For who? YOU?
I don't think Sammy could possibly afford to reduce the new price due to the recall but they may add extras as standard...for instance its cheaper to include a cost VR or SD card than knock £100 off!
There will also be an awful lot of remanufactured phones available shortly....no doubt going cheap!
Yes, absolutely.
Note 7 has a lot of issues: the unwanted curved screen, programmed obsolesce in form of the non-removable battery, fragile glass back, mediocre 4GB RAM, etc etc.
it is no longer a device that sets standards.
The fair price for Note 7 is about 500 EUR maximum.
850 EUR is just gross overpricing, it's to throw money away.
don't forget there are excellent devices like:
OnePlus 3 for 400 EUR (although the screen has low FHD resolution, and no QC3);
ZTE Axon 7 for 450 EUR (and it has amazing DACs, and dolby stereo speakers).
let's see how it goes.
you/those who bought it knew all of this but still bought it....
I'm sure they'll do another round of promotions because it makes sense - it'll almost be like relaunching the phone. As for a price drop, why? It's a premium phone already selling below the iPhone 7. It's no less premium because of the battery recall.
I like the curved screen and prefer it.
We have battery banks, no need for removable battery. I prefer IP67 over removable battery.
Glass back for wireless charging, check.
4GB is mediocre? There's still PC's that run with 4 or even 2GB ram.
The go and buy those OP3 or A7... I care about water resistance and wirelesses charging, s pen, I even like the new TouchWiz, I love the camera of N7 and for shure I will love the phone... U are not geting any of these features in those phones so I pay more... even the build of N7 is more epic, I like the edge saying that is unwanted is ur choise... this note7 is a full package and you don't need 6 gb RAM... OP3 is a proof of that
You dont even own the Note 7. Why are you here? If you like the other brands you mention buy those why keep knocking the Note 7 as you do whenever you have the chance?
No one is going to force you to purchase the Note 7 and to keep unwisely comparing an apple with an orange just highlights your total lack of knowledge in relation to the Note 7's specifications.
Ryland
I like the Note 7 no doubt it, but the question is should we get a refund on our phones and repurchase it when it is commercially available ?
NO! I want a straight exchange.
Well the price in HK has been slash a fair bit. Initial Release price was $6198HKD (800USD), this morning it was 5570HKD (718USD).
The price is bearable after if I trade in Note 5, it should cover 50% of the cost.
I agree it should be around 675USD would be a reasonable price range (600EURO). I don't think they would slash price by that much until at least 6 month later.
But...
Consider that a iPhone 7 Plus is about 770/870/970USD.
I think getting the Note 7 is still hell of a deal.
none of us know what R&D Samsung have put into the device and price generally reflects a large % that.
Those saying it should cost $300 less....why? There are plenty of cheaper alternatives - buy those if they are in your price bracket.
Its a bit like buying their top of the range curve screens costing upwards of £2000. Yes there are plenty of large UHD screens on the market, but its down to personal choice and what options you need If you can afford it and will pay it, there is no competition. I looked at the price of the IP7+ and at £900 for what THAT is, that is properly overpriced! Still no notification LED!
They may bundle freebies and tweak the price a bit. If there will be significant change in price, it will upset the pre-order owners which will later have impact in their future product launch.
If you are concerned about the price variation, Samsung is offering a refund. You can take that and stay on the safe side. Each has its own preference. Unless the purchase is just for the heck of having one, then price will eventually be a big deal. As for me, if another brand can offer a model with S-pen as good as the Note series, then I may reconsider. For now, I stay with Note 7 because it makes a part of my everyday work a bit easier - signing e-docs on the fly.
In my country, Cambodia, Note 7 is only $770 (Dual sim FD). But there is no VR bonus, GearS, or SD card. $850 is a good point if you get the bonus.
Meanwhile, iPhone 7 32GB price is going to be $900-$1100, which originally is only $650 in the US. No bonus except the cheap-azz screen protector.
Hello,
5570HKD?, I am seeing this price only on Price (price.com.hk), I didnt see any update on "official" resseller (Fortress, netwrok carrier...).
Do you have more infos about that?
Hey everyone,
I really need a good tablet for home multimedia consumption and maybe college. I could get either version: SM-P600 or the 605.
Should I still purchase the note even though it's so old, I am kinda iffy because of the discontinued software updates etc?
What is the latest security patch?
Or, is there any other tablet with stylus that would be better?
I looked at the new Zenpad from Asus.
Would anyone be kind enough to help me? Thanks
It is still on android 5.1.1. There was a recent update and security patch is sept 2016 i think. Great tablet though but a tad too expensive. If you dont have much use for the spen i would suggest a different tablet. Rom dev for this device is pretty active but i have stayed stock since i bought it.
Not sure what ur budget is. I would suggest sticking to mainstream brands. With asus i am not sure of dev support on xda or update support from asus themselves.
On a side note, nokia seems to be preparing to launch a new android tablet.
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Thanks for your help. Which model would you suggest getting 605 or 600? I wouldn't mind spending 500 for a brand new device. The s-pen would be very useful for me. I absolutely love the stylus and the abilities it gives you. Do you think I could still work with the 10.1 for 2 years?
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Thanks for your help. Which model would you suggest getting 605 or 600? I wouldn't mind spending 500 for a brand new device. The s-pen would be very useful for me. I absolutely love the stylus and the abilities it gives you. Do you think I could still work with the 10.1 for 2 years?
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Are you planning on installing a custom ROM? Not sure if the 605 you are looking at has an unlocked bootloader. That might make up your decision.
IMO, I would not spend $500 on the P600 becaues it is indeed 2 years old. I chose to get a second hand one a few weeks ago for a pretty good price (~$150). At that price, its a decent tablet but you can kind of tell it is getting a little old. With CM13 installed, there's new life in the tablet. Noticeably faster and mSD as internal storage are huge.
If s-pen is not a deal breaker, that Zenbook from Asus is nice. Is it 64GB/4GB?
Sorry I didn't express myself clear enough lol
I meant I would spend $500 on a new tablet. I would only dish out $200 for the note 10.1.
Yes, it's this one: ASUS Zenpad Z500M-C1-GR. It has stylus support as well. Unfortunately it's sold out on Amazon
I would recommend the Nvidia Shield K1 it's around 200 bucks. Good specs, xda area is filled with nice roms and works in progress. However it's a 8 inches tablet and has about 6000 mah capacity, the K1 versions doesn't have the stylus pen nor the charger included but you can buy the pen for about 10-20 bucks and you probably already have a charger.
The note 2014 have nice specs even in late 2016, but it's in shadows because of Samsung's bad support and woeful software, the oem roms are basically mandatory if you want the S-pen functions, the CM roms are maintained by some nice folks in the forum but they aren't still 100% yet and you loose yer S-pen functions (I'm aware of a specific app that can help restoring the S-pen functions, but its not 100%).
So I would recommend you to stay away from the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014.
had mine for 3 years now and its working perfectly and meets all my tablet needs, the best bit being the superb screen and I see no need to upgrade it
would I buy it now if I needed a tablet? at a reasonable price definitely yes...if you are an avid tablet gamer (im not) then I would consider one with more graphics power
but this tablet is still more than holding its own ...im on my 5th case! and its still immaculate
I'm very happy of how long this tablet has lasted me.
For a while there, when on the ok1 firmware (XAR), I couldn't install or update apps. It would reboot almost every time. I was considering getting a tabpro s (Windows10) as a replacement, but pulled the trigger on a gaming laptop instead.
With the latest update, everything is working great again. Not even rooted. Don't need to be. It may not be marshmallow, but getting support for literally 3 years since launch isn't bad. With no replacement/successor for the N10.1 2014 rumored, we may (probably not) get marshmallow before they fully kill support for this beast.
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If you can get one for a good price, I think it's still a very good tablet.
I dropped mine and shattered the screen a few months ago. Because if the way it is built, you cannot just replace the glass. The whole screen and digitizer is one unit. So, since there was no real other 10-inch tablet with the screen resolution and the S Pen support that the Note 10.1 has, I ended up buying a used one on eBay to replace it.
I am using mine everyday, and I use the S Pen all the time to take notes. It's replaced a paper notebook for me.
I had the opportunity to work with a Surface Pro tablet at work, and although it is a great machine, and it can replace a laptop, I found it a bit too big and heavy to use as a notebook replacement to take notes. I still carry my tablet everywhere with me.
Howdy, folks.
I'm in the market for a tablet, and not familiar with the Samsung lineup, so I could use some guidance here.
First, I'm not sure I understand the difference between the A and S series. I assume it's a CPU issue, and I seem to recall a Tab A that I played around with didn't have an accelerometer and/or GPS, which are both critical for me.
Then we get to the firmware. I need to run Xposed and Xprivacy. Obviously that means I'll need to be able to root the machine. Would I be correct in assuming that I'm stuck with getting an S2, or is it possible to downgrade an S3 so I can benefit from the better hardware specs?
My choices seem to be an S2 at $480 or an S3 at $550 except that the S3 ships with a pen and LP, if I'm not mistaken, which knocks me out of the box in terms of running Xprivacy unless I can downgrade the OS.
Anyway, your input here would be helpful, and any pointers on unlocking / rooting would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
I think since late 2014, the Samsung tablets were split into just two lines, the Tab S, the high-end line, and the Tab A, the low cost line. In my humble opinion, the Tab A line is utter crap and it hasn't been updated effectively since 2015. If you want a cheap low end tablet, you might as well just buy one of those sub-100 dollar Amazon Fire tablets. Their specs are in the neighborhood of those Tab A tablets, but Fire tablets are much cheaper. Quite sadly, I think Samsung's high end line Tab S has also lost its way. I mean, I certainly love the idea of a high end Android tablet, but not at 500-600USD, specially when it comes with outdated flagship SoC, like the Snapdragon 820.
I love my Tab S 10.5, but if I am forced to replace it tomorrow, I'll probably get the Huawei Mediapad M3. Its hardware specs are high end enough to check nearly every box, and it costs under 300USD.
Excellent suggestion. I was wondering about alternatives to Samsung.
How would you compare the M3 to the S3? Can it be rooted? The new Samsung got excellent reviews for both construction and performance, and I confess the pen has appeal. I also wanted a 10"-ish screen, and the Huawei comes in at 8, so while the price is right, you give up a fair amount of screen.
I can pick up the S3 32 gig with a keyboard case for $550, which was more than I wanted to spend, but i can live with it since I'm not the type to buy a new device every year. Or even every two or three years, for that matter.
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I have purchased 5 Tab A devices, 3 T280 and 2 T555. Me the missus and little one have the T280, my mother and I have the T555. Both have an accelerometer and GPS. I don't know of a Samsung tablet that doesn't unless you meant gyroscope?
The Tab A T280 is stuck on Lollipop and the T550 runs Nougat.
I don't have issues with either for how I use them.
I also own the Tab S, but I use the Tab A T555 far more as it's light, comfortable to hold and runs just fine.
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Excellent suggestion. I was wondering about alternatives to Samsung.
How would you compare the M3 to the S3? Can it be rooted? The new Samsung got excellent reviews for both construction and performance, and I confess the pen has appeal. I also wanted a 10"-ish screen, and the Huawei comes in at 8, so while the price is right, you give up a fair amount of screen.
I can pick up the S3 32 gig with a keyboard case for $550, which was more than I wanted to spend, but i can live with it since I'm not the type to buy a new device every year. Or even every two or three years, for that matter.
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The first thing I do when looking for a new tab is xda support, if you can't get a custom rom for it, forget it!
M3 support is thin to non-existant, they are just getting it to root, and no TWRP ( I think) , other than that its the best hardware for the price. Tab s2 is good, Tab A fair, s3 just starting.
Xposed is now officially on NU, the main framework has been released, modules compatibility varies.
For that amount of cash, your in ultrabook / chromebook territory.
A tablet that does not fit in a pocket, and costs the same as a dell ultrabook with 256 gb hdd and an i5, is a bad choice maybe?
I use my t705 as a pocket device, with the aspect ratio it just fits, and the fact that's its also a very cool phone makes it a nobrainer.
Also remember the folding screens are just months away, once they are out most of the current tabs will be obselete real quick.
I want something larger format (~10") for use when doing demos for customers, casual browsing or web work away from my desk or when traveling for short spans. An 8" screen is not of interest.
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