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Hello there dear Desire Z community!
I am thinking of upgrading my htc desire for a deisre z but i am torn between the DZ and galaxy S..So i went ahead and decided to ask a list of factors before i make my purchase (because i am obviously leaning towards the Z)..
1) and most probably most important.How is the battery life (e.g compared to a desire-n1) ?
2)is the screen viewable under direct sunlight? (desire sucked at this)
3)how is it in terms of GPU graphics compared to these devices? : iphone4 ,galaxy s,desire hd?
4)Does it suffer from the same multitouch bug the deisre/n1 do?And if not it can use true multitouch or dual touch?
5)How is the dev support around here? i know CM is also supporting a rom for DZ/G2 ,but are there are others devs doing nice work on the device?
6)Is there anything u miss from this device ?
36 views and no reply?i only asked because these questions can be answered by only someone that has lived with the phone for a while..
It does have proper multi-touch, but I can't answer your other questions, since this is my first Android phone. And I love it
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It does have proper multi-touch, but I can't answer your other questions, since this is my first Android phone. And I love it
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appreciate your feedback sir..enjoy your new handheld!
1) Battery life is amazing, much better than the N1. I can stretch around 18 hours with HEAVY use (mostly texting non-stop )
2) Under direct sunlight the phone does pretty well, just have to crank up the brightness. Remember, this is no S-AMOLED, but still does pretty well.
3) Best GPU I've had so far, Comes pretty close to the Galaxy S.
4) No multi touch problems Tracks 4 fingers independently
5) We have awesome dev support Most notably Enom and Cyanogen himself and the dev support will only increase over time...
6) Coming from a N1, I can say I don't miss anything. The G2 is a proper successor to the N1, better then that crap Samsung Nexus S garbage.
Note: GALAXY S IS COMPLETE GARBAGE. Feels like a cheap plastic toy
I forgot who it was, and what thread. But there is somebody on here that switched from a Galaxy S to the Vision, and he said the Vision was a much better phone. Do some reading on the CPU lag and GPS issues on the Galaxy S to help you decide. Also, being an HTC device, and also since it has the hardware keyboard, the Vision will likely remain a favorite of developers for some time.
In my opinion, the Vision is only the SECOND android phone worth owning. The first being the Dream. N1 wasn't good -- touch screen keyboards are ok for punching in something very SHORT, like a market search term, but anything longer and you're bashing your head against a wall. Faster or not, a lack of a keyboard is DEBILITATING. What can you do with fast if you can't get your data into it. All other keyboard androids suffered from retard issues, like incorrect button alignment and/or being motorola.
Also note that the Vision is the direct successor of the Dream (not the N1). I.e., a vision is kind of like a dream, but more powerful. It has basically the same characteristics of the Dream, but more and faster. The naming is also designed to imply a succession.... Its "vision" as in having a vision of the future, rather than "vision" as in seeing something with your eyes.
Thats great!thanks for the feedback and extra info all of u guys...i guess it turns out the only thing i miss is the better screen part..I think i will enjoy the hw kb!
Which phone is better?
Whould i switch to N4 from my HOX?
Or no visible change between the 2 preformance ?
I know the N4's camere is not as good as the HOX's camera.
I'm a HTC fan so my heart's choosing the HOX
But I need some help in it
Hi,
Although I've only had a quick play on the Nexus, I still can't decide which one's better. That tells me that they're almost identical devices, both with their pro's and cons.
I have to say I still love my HOX, I've never had a phone like it. Its so comfy to hold, looks amazing outside and doesn't struggle with any tasks. Your choice is really between providers.
With the N4 your gonna get updates, and pure android (vanilla) whereas your gonna get Sense with HOX.
However you can get rid of sense.
Theres no real performance issues, so reading your post, I'd suggest the HOX for you, as you said your a HTC fan and are already swaying that way.
Both devices are virtually the same age also.
I know this isn't the type of answer your probably expecting, as this isn't a conclusive answer, but then again non of us can tell you, we can advise you.
So yeah, HOX = Smart, Polycarb Uni Body. Sense
N4 = Google, Frequent Updates, Vanilla Android
Hope this helps in some way.
As i looking after the N4:
for N4:
pro:
- Vanilla is rock stable
- Snapdragon is better then Tegra
- 2 gb ram instead of 1
- Google phone, so it's sure to upegardeable
- Better uptime
cont:
- No Sense
- Worst camera
- IPS screen is not as nice as the S-lcd2
And for sure, I love HTC
So I still don't know
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Hey everybody,
I know I maybe should've started this thread in Butterfly Q&A section but there are far more geeks here in M8 section as M8 is more available internationally, so Mods please don't move this thread, if possible
So I was considering to buy the nice Butterfly 2, everything seemed perfect in it, until I found out that it's really terrible in developing stuff, it even doesn't have a section in xda, even though the original Butterfly and the nice old Butterfly S have!
So, the question is, is it possible to have M8 Custom Roms converted to Butterfly 2 without much struggle, as they are literally the same, aside from camera and body? I mean is it done for other similar phones such as E8, or maybe Xperia Z2 to Z3 etc?
I've read some topics about converting Roms by mostly copy-pasting files for similar devices but, those were just too old, Android should've changed a bit now...
I'm really disappointed as I finally found Butterfly 2 as the perfect phone for me, but there I am with another thing to stop me buying it :/
The Z3 is awesome for me too, but misses IR Blaster, nice audio quality, has those flaps for ports, has less details in camera even though it's 20 vs 13, and doesn't have nice looking hot design of HTC devices...
Any help is appreciated, thanks
After my Nexus 5x turned in to a brick I spent a while looking for something suitably Nexus like. the 5x was my third Nexus after a 4 and 5, I had become accustomed to the unadulterated vanilla Android in a well built, reasonably priced package. Since Google seem to have abandoned the Nexus line and with the Pixel being more expensive than I would like I set about finding something different.
Looking for a reasonably priced phone with Vanilla Android and all the usual bits I like (fingerprint, NFC, Android Pay, USB Type-C) I kept seeing the BQ Aquaris X Pro popping up in my searches. I considered and discard Motorola as the price points I was looking at didn't have all of the options I wanted. I considered various Chinese brands but was wary of build quality I've seen in the past. So in the end I opted for the BQ Aquaris X Pro and it arrived yesterday.
So far, I am very happy. At just under £400 for the phone and a case the value seems great. It's a really well made, very good looking phone. With a Snapdragon 626 chip, 4GB RAM and 64GB storage (plus I have added a 128GB SDXC card for my music) I am happy that it is future proof enough not to need an upgrade for a few years.
It feel great in the hand, it really has a feel of quality. The screen is bright and so far all of my apps have been buttery smooth. With the camera out of the Galaxy S7 photos are good quality too.
I will see how it goes over the next few weeks but so far it's all good, battery is lasting well thus far.
If you are looking for something to replace a Nexus then this is a very good option, hopefully some more reviews will pop up online soon.
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After my Nexus 5x turned in to a brick I spent a while looking for something suitably Nexus like. the 5x was my third Nexus after a 4 and 5, I had become accustomed to the unadulterated vanilla Android in a well built, reasonably priced package. Since Google seem to have abandoned the Nexus line and with the Pixel being more expensive than I would like I set about finding something different.
Looking for a reasonably priced phone with Vanilla Android and all the usual bits I like (fingerprint, NFC, Android Pay, USB Type-C) I kept seeing the BQ Aquaris X Pro popping up in my searches. I considered and discard Motorola as the price points I was looking at didn't have all of the options I wanted. I considered various Chinese brands but was wary of build quality I've seen in the past. So in the end I opted for the BQ Aquaris X Pro and it arrived yesterday.
So far, I am very happy. At just under £400 for the phone and a case the value seems great. It's a really well made, very good looking phone. With a Snapdragon 626 chip, 4GB RAM and 64GB storage (plus I have added a 128GB SDXC card for my music) I am happy that it is future proof enough not to need an upgrade for a few years.
It feel great in the hand, it really has a feel of quality. The screen is bright and so far all of my apps have been buttery smooth. With the camera out of the Galaxy S7 photos are good quality too.
I will see how it goes over the next few weeks but so far it's all good, battery is lasting well thus far.
If you are looking for something to replace a Nexus then this is a very good option, hopefully some more reviews will pop up online soon.
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Hi. Thanks for the quick review.
If you can, please upload a video with and without OIS and a few low light photos. Thank you.
gingermonkey said:
After my Nexus 5x turned in to a brick I spent a while looking for something suitably Nexus like. the 5x was my third Nexus after a 4 and 5, I had become accustomed to the unadulterated vanilla Android in a well built, reasonably priced package. Since Google seem to have abandoned the Nexus line and with the Pixel being more expensive than I would like I set about finding something different.
Looking for a reasonably priced phone with Vanilla Android and all the usual bits I like (fingerprint, NFC, Android Pay, USB Type-C) I kept seeing the BQ Aquaris X Pro popping up in my searches. I considered and discard Motorola as the price points I was looking at didn't have all of the options I wanted. I considered various Chinese brands but was wary of build quality I've seen in the past. So in the end I opted for the BQ Aquaris X Pro and it arrived yesterday.
So far, I am very happy. At just under £400 for the phone and a case the value seems great. It's a really well made, very good looking phone. With a Snapdragon 626 chip, 4GB RAM and 64GB storage (plus I have added a 128GB SDXC card for my music) I am happy that it is future proof enough not to need an upgrade for a few years.
It feel great in the hand, it really has a feel of quality. The screen is bright and so far all of my apps have been buttery smooth. With the camera out of the Galaxy S7 photos are good quality too.
I will see how it goes over the next few weeks but so far it's all good, battery is lasting well thus far.
If you are looking for something to replace a Nexus then this is a very good option, hopefully some more reviews will pop up online soon.
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I changed my HTC 10 to the Xpro, and I must say it`s really nice! It`s a very nice build quality and the software is almost untouched Vanilla Android 7.1.1
I don`t feel any difference in Speed, but the SOT is a lot better. Would love to see any LOS development in the future!
By now, there is only the htcmania forum and some here in Germany, but root and twrp are already accomplished.
bonzai80 said:
I changed my HTC 10 to the Xpro, and I must say it`s really nice! It`s a very nice build quality and the software is almost untouched Vanilla Android 7.1.1
I don`t feel any difference in Speed, but the SOT is a lot better. Would love to see any LOS development in the future!
By now, there is only the htcmania forum and some here in Germany, but root and twrp are already accomplished.
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Happy to find another owner!
Have you tried Android Pay yet? I am currently working with Google support having been pointed in their direction by BQ support. Android Pay is not working as it is failing SafetyNet check despite not being rooted, having an unlocked bootloader or any custom ROMS. Not working out of the box has me a tad concerned...
what about audio quality? APT-X BT and Sabre ESS DAC
So gingermonkey, what are your current thoughts on your phone.
Also, I am particularly keen to know if the gps works well.
Thanks
hi
i do need to push the mobile from android 7.1.1 to 7.1.2 at least, cause of some bugs related to call recording
anyone is cooking a personalized rom for this device or knows whom i could ask?
thank you
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Does the Aquaris X (Pro variant or non-Pro) have the adoptable storage option, i.e., the option to format a micro SD card to be a virtual part of the internal storage? I believe it is a standard option in Android Nougat, but may be disabled by a manufacturer.
possible there isn't an aquaris x pro section on xda????
ironia. said:
possible there isn't an aquaris x pro section on xda????
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It looks like it. iIwas very surprised after buying the phone and searching for the category here
At the moment i am collecting all information needed to unlock/flash/root and plan to create a thread here on xda.
Not sure where to create a new topic, but i think it can be moved afterward by a moderator when the appropriate main category has been created..
Any idea, how to start the main category? -I am below the 10 post threshold, so maybe i simply can't see it..?
edit [2017-09-23]:
Have to correct myself - 10 post limit is only for dev forum.
Info for other new users, take a look here: [GUIDE] - XDA New User Guide - Getting started on XDA
edit [2017-09-23]:
As mentioned above, I collected some information and took notes while unlocking and flashing my phone. Take a look here: [HOW-TO] BQ Aquaris X Pro | [Stock-ROM] Unlock,Recovery,Root,Upgrade (TWRP/Magisk)
Requested a BQ Forum here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73765067&postcount=22236
Don't know anything about the decision process
I have an Acquaris X pro 128 gb with 128gb samsung evo sd card.
Usually the touch seems not great, i have some problem when i'm writing and whith daily using. Some fixes? Maybe i have to change screen dp?
My default is 423
I confirm...it's normal that the touch isn't great...
re: aquaris x pro section on xda
ironia. said:
possible there isn't an aquaris x pro section on xda????
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At the moment it seems so, unfortunately, I am waiting for that, too...
Though it is very nice that there are already experimental images available at the site android-hilfe.de (link mentioned above), so development has started! I am looking forward to the first stable release... *thumbs up*
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what about audio quality? APT-X BT and Sabre ESS DAC
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The Aquaris X Pro has a ES9118 Sabre DAC and supports aptX. In my opinion, the audio quality is superb, both via BT (using aptX) as well as analog headphones.
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The Aquaris X Pro has a ES9118 Sabre DAC and supports aptX. In my opinion, the audio quality is superb, both via BT (using aptX) as well as analog headphones.
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Where are you find ES9118 Sabre related information, please? DAC can be accessed with any player?
dadme said:
Where are you find ES9118 Sabre related information, please? DAC can be accessed with any player?
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For example here. Of course you can use any player.
I need a copy of modemst1 & modemst2
Hi, since some months I haven't got IMEI number, I've lost it and I really don't know how, I surpose I did
Code:
fastboot erase modemst1
Code:
fastboot erase modemst2
and now I can't call, and no internet. My phone detects SIM card, but no signal. If I "call" *#06# the popup onli shows the word "IMEI" I forgot serial number too, now is 1234567890ABCDEF. I think that my last option is buy a new PCB, but I didn't found it anywhere. As a last option, I decided to type here and ask for some help... Can someone send me a copy of modemst1 and modemst2 please? I don't know if that is possible, but if that can be possible and someone send me a copy, I will be very grateful.
Thanks in advance,
Miguel Ángel.
There was a small discussion in the AEX 6.7 thread started by @mcalistri asking for a suggestion to replace his Zuk Z2 Plus with another one. His suggestion was Pixel 3A and Nokia 7.2. I too asked if the OnePlus 6T is a good option. @selvarajrajkanna and @GopalKaul answered both of us and suggested K20 Pro and Pixel 3A. Since it is not good to discuss this in AEX thread I'm continuing that discussion here.
My suggestions and the summary of the discussion:
- OnePlus 7 (but the development is not in a good position; I read a few threads there. Also the 7T is on the way so buying a new one would not be a better idea I think)
- OnePlus 6T (if you want to stay on stock rom because oxygen os is good. - suggested by selvarajrajkanna. I found a few pre-owned 6Ts and also my friend has one, that's why I suggested it)
- Pixel 3A (have better camera and if camera is the only priority - suggested by selvarajrajkanna and mcalistri)
- Redmi K20 Pro (suggested by GopalKaul and selvarajrajkanna because it has latest chipset, 3.5mm jack, bigger battery, etc.)
- Nokia 7.2 (suggested by mcalistri)
- Poco F1 (if on a tight budget - suggested by GopalKaul)
Also please tell if you have any other good options or suggestions in this list. I'll update this post if anything relevant is posted. Our Z2 Plus started with 6.0 and went through 7.0, 8.0 and 9.0 without any serious performance issues. So I think Android Q will also work flawlessly. But if any Z2 Plus owner who like to replace it with another one and also expect a legend like Z2 this post may/should help. Thanks for taking the time to read this long post. ?
niyonsv said:
There was a small discussion in the AEX 6.7 thread started by @mcalistri asking for a suggestion to replace his Zuk Z2 Plus with another one. His suggestion was Pixel 3A and Nokia 7.2. I too asked if the OnePlus 6T is a good option. @selvarajrajkanna and @GopalKaul answered both of us and suggested K20 Pro and Pixel 3A. Since it is not good to discuss this in AEX thread I'm continuing that discussion here.
My suggestions and the summary of the discussion:
- OnePlus 7 (but the development is not in a good position; I read a few threads there. Also the 7T is on the way so buying a new one would not be a better idea I think)
- OnePlus 6T (if you want to stay on stock rom because oxygen os is good. - suggested by selvarajrajkanna. I found a few pre-owned 6Ts and also my friend has one, that's why I suggested it)
- Pixel 3A (have better camera and if camera is the only priority - suggested by selvarajrajkanna and mcalistri)
- Redmi K20 Pro (suggested by GopalKaul and selvarajrajkanna because it has latest chipset, 3.5mm jack, bigger battery, etc.)
- Nokia 7.2 (suggested by mcalistri)
- Poco F1 (if on a tight budget - suggested by GopalKaul)
Also please tell if you have any other good options or suggestions in this list. I'll update this post if anything relevant is posted. Our Z2 Plus started with 6.0 and went through 7.0, 8.0 and 9.0 without any serious performance issues. So I think Android Q will also work flawlessly. But if any Z2 Plus owner who like to replace it with another one and also expect a legend like Z2 this post may/should help. Thanks for taking the time to read this long post. ?
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In reality I have not suggested any devices ?
Nokia could be a good choice for what I remember about its Zeiss Camera lenses, I could appreciate it on my Nokia Lumia which now it's gone to paradise.
I honestly am tempted to take the pixel 3a but I live in Brazil and here it is more expensive due to the importation taxes.
The K20 if I'm not wrong, is a bit strange to my eyes because it has a lifting camera jumping from the outside of the chassis.
The choice is not so easy also because the old Zuk-Z2 is working extremely well
niyonsv said:
There was a small discussion in the AEX 6.7 thread started by @mcalistri asking for a suggestion to replace his Zuk Z2 Plus with another one. His suggestion was Pixel 3A and Nokia 7.2. I too asked if the OnePlus 6T is a good option. @selvarajrajkanna and @GopalKaul answered both of us and suggested K20 Pro and Pixel 3A. Since it is not good to discuss this in AEX thread I'm continuing that discussion here.
My suggestions and the summary of the discussion:
- OnePlus 7 (but the development is not in a good position; I read a few threads there. Also the 7T is on the way so buying a new one would not be a better idea I think)
- OnePlus 6T (if you want to stay on stock rom because oxygen os is good. - suggested by selvarajrajkanna. I found a few pre-owned 6Ts and also my friend has one, that's why I suggested it)
- Pixel 3A (have better camera and if camera is the only priority - suggested by selvarajrajkanna and mcalistri)
- Redmi K20 Pro (suggested by GopalKaul and selvarajrajkanna because it has latest chipset, 3.5mm jack, bigger battery, etc.)
- Nokia 7.2 (suggested by mcalistri)
- Poco F1 (if on a tight budget - suggested by GopalKaul)
Also please tell if you have any other good options or suggestions in this list. I'll update this post if anything relevant is posted. Our Z2 Plus started with 6.0 and went through 7.0, 8.0 and 9.0 without any serious performance issues. So I think Android Q will also work flawlessly. But if any Z2 Plus owner who like to replace it with another one and also expect a legend like Z2 this post may/should help. Thanks for taking the time to read this long post. ?
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If you want to try a new phone after the Zuk Z2, try buying either Pixel 3, or even 7 is a very good option[seeing the development of other one plus phones, 7's development should soon emerge]
akshay pro said:
If you want to try a new phone after the Zuk Z2, try buying either Pixel 3, or even 7 is a very good option[seeing the development of other one plus phones, 7's development should soon emerge]
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IMHO we should consider first the device as it we find it from the factory, with its default software and O.S., I mean we should consider if it can or can't be ROM customized as second requirement.
For example, for my personal user case, I purchased my ZukZ2 with Chinese ROM, than the decision to flash a custom ROM on it has been almost mandatory.
akshay pro said:
If you want to try a new phone after the Zuk Z2, try buying either Pixel 3, or even 7 is a very good option[seeing the development of other one plus phones, 7's development should soon emerge]
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Thanks. I can get a OnePlus 6T phone (pre-owned, 6-128, still in warranty) for about 75% of that of a new OnePlus 7's price. So, which one would be better? OnePlus 6T or 7? Or any other?
mcalistri said:
IMHO we should consider first the device as it we find it from the factory, with its default software and O.S., I mean we should consider if it can or can't be ROM customized as second requirement.
For example, for my personal user case, I purchased my ZukZ2 with Chinese ROM, than the decision to flash a custom ROM on it has been almost mandatory.
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Thanks. My thought is just opposite. I like almost-stock-ROMs with additional features and the factory OSs never attracted me except for some of their features or something. I flashed the custom ROM the day I got Z2. Before buying it I searched about many devices in XDA which had better custom ROM development support. Also Z2 was a device with almost high-end spec then and I got a huge discount then. That's why I'm looking for a device identical to Z2 of that time.
I would defenately go to k20 pro
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Thanks. My thought is just opposite. I like almost-stock-ROMs with additional features and the factory OSs never attracted me except for some of their features or something. I flashed the custom ROM the day I got Z2. Before buying it I searched about many devices in XDA which had better custom ROM development support. Also Z2 was a device with almost high-end spec then and I got a huge discount then. That's why I'm looking for a device identical to Z2 of that time.
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Stock OS as the pure Android running on a Google Pixel phone, from what I've heard have everything we need to forget about custom ROM.
Our device, thanks to its hardware is still pretty good to offer brilliant service for years to come.
The maior lacks, I IMHO can resume for Z2 are:
1 - A not superlative camera, beside its hw specs which are not the top of the market, probably has not been achieved the very best in terms of firmware and software to manage it at a better level.
2 - A not superlative sound in terms of loudness
Regards,
I don't see any reason to change the device.
Charge the ROM, chahe the screen guard and change the cover or add a skin.
That's the new device for you.
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I don't see any reason to change the device.
Charge the ROM, chahe the screen guard and change the cover or add a skin.
That's the new device for you.
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manishgkasera said:
I don't see any reason to change the device.
Charge the ROM, chahe the screen guard and change the cover or add a skin.
That's the new device for you.
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That's how I used my Z2 bro. It has a unique design (all phones where curved then) and it always stayed different from others. But there's one thing that I changed thrice and it was a bit more costly - battery. Also my phone is becoming slow and slow each day. Tried different ROMs, reduced number of apps. The phone is not performing well too. It is taking ages to click a photo. Also the earpiece speaker now started distorting, I've to use headset always for talking. There are other reasons here and there, so I think it is better to change my phone. That's why I asked for suggestion.
I'm also looking for an upgrade to this phone. I bought the ZUK about 3 years ago with the intention of only keeping it for under 12 months. But I ended up sticking with it since I couldn't find a suitable upgrade at the time. After a lot of use it seems the ZUK is starting to show signs of slowing down. It's taking time to open apps and the storage is incredibly slow as prooven by benchmark testing.
Unfortunately my choice for a replacement is limited because I get eyestrain and headaches when looking at AMOLED screens with PWM flickering. The Asus Zenfone 6 looks perfect with an IPS panel, but it is too expensive at £450 here in the UK. The upcoming Realme 5 Pro seems good with SD712, 6GB RAM and 128GB UFS 2.1 storage for a much more reasonable £190. But I worry about whether this phone will recieve good custom ROM support. There's also the Redmi Note 7 Pro with SD675 but it has a horrible ugly U-shaped notch. Maybe the upcoming Redmi Note 8 will also be decent.
I'm a bit surprised about hear some buddies have the need to replace the battery in their ZukZ2.
My battery, after years of usage looks like brand new, it doesn't presents any sign of longevity.
Furthermore I can't understand how the device appears running slower! We have not any mechanical disk inside it, neither a Windows XP is running here! If your device is slow then try to clean flash after performing a factory reset.
Sirs, are you violenting yours smartphones? Are you using it extensively with gaming and repetitive charging during usage?
May be you should have been more respectful and conservative using the phone now you have to pay the bill!
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I'm also looking for an upgrade to this phone. I bought the ZUK about 3 years ago with the intention of only keeping it for under 12 months. But I ended up sticking with it since I couldn't find a suitable upgrade at the time. After a lot of use it seems the ZUK is starting to show signs of slowing down. It's taking time to open apps and the storage is incredibly slow as prooven by benchmark testing.
Unfortunately my choice for a replacement is limited because I get eyestrain and headaches when looking at AMOLED screens with PWM flickering. The Asus Zenfone 6 looks perfect with an IPS panel, but it is too expensive at £450 here in the UK. The upcoming Realme 5 Pro seems good with SD712, 6GB RAM and 128GB UFS 2.1 storage for a much more reasonable £190. But I worry about whether this phone will recieve good custom ROM support. There's also the Redmi Note 7 Pro with SD675 but it has a horrible ugly U-shaped notch. Maybe the upcoming Redmi Note 8 will also be decent.
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I haven't heard of this AMOLED flickering issue till now. Is it a serious issue to consider?
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I'm a bit surprised about hear some buddies have the need to replace the battery in their ZukZ2.
My battery, after years of usage looks like brand new, it doesn't presents any sign of longevity.
Furthermore I can't understand how the device appears running slower! We have not any mechanical disk inside it, neither a Windows XP is running here! If your device is slow then try to clean flash after performing a factory reset.
Sirs, are you violenting yours smartphones? Are you using it extensively with gaming and repetitive charging during usage?
May be you should have been more respectful and conservative using the phone now you have to pay the bill!
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But I changed the batteries thrice, all from Lenovo official service center. I always go to stock ROM between each ROM changes, and clean flash between each updates. It's a bit time consuming sometimes but I know its better. Only a very few times I dirty flashed.
I used it for gaming only in the first year of purchase, now I'm not interest in that, that's why. Also I was always respectful to my phone, since it is the only device I have.
The phone is speedier with old stock ROMs and nougat ROMs, but not that speedier than then. So if I need to use newer version of ROMs and apps I should switch to a newer phone rather forcing Z2 to do all new stuffs.
I remember only a few phone models were capable of taking photos with GCams and Z2 was there in the list right after getting camera2API. Also it took and processed photos very fast. But now it is taking a lot of time even to click a photo.
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I haven't heard of this AMOLED flickering issue till now. Is it a serious issue to consider?
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Well it only affects a small minority of people, I heard about 10% of users can experience these symptoms with AMOLED panels. It just means you are more sensitive to the flickering than other people. Sadly, the only way to find out is to purchase an AMOLED phone and try it for yourself. That's what happened with me.
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I'm a bit surprised about hear some buddies have the need to replace the battery in their ZukZ2.
My battery, after years of usage looks like brand new, it doesn't presents any sign of longevity.
Furthermore I can't understand how the device appears running slower! We have not any mechanical disk inside it, neither a Windows XP is running here! If your device is slow then try to clean flash after performing a factory reset.
Sirs, are you violenting yours smartphones? Are you using it extensively with gaming and repetitive charging during usage?
May be you should have been more respectful and conservative using the phone now you have to pay the bill!
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I was of the understanding that flash storage can degrade over time in smartphones. I probably didn't do mine any favours by constantly flashing ROMs and copying files to it over the course of 3 years. I did some storage benchmarks and I'm only getting 33MB/s sequential write speeds. Random write 4K is even worse at 1.3MB/s average. Surely that's not normal.
https://files.catbox.moe/e1wu3r.png
Can anyone compare against my scores? The app is called CPDT Benchmark in the Play Store.
In regards to battery performance, mine still gives about 4 hours of SOT but that is disappointing when it used to last for 7 hours and 30 minutes. I always allow my phone to run completely out of battery which I heard isn't good for for in the long-term. So perhaps bad charging habits have caused more degradation.
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But I changed the batteries thrice, all from Lenovo official service center. I always go to stock ROM between each ROM changes, and clean flash between each updates. It's a bit time consuming sometimes but I know its better. Only a very few times I dirty flashed.
I used it for gaming only in the first year of purchase, now I'm not interest in that, that's why. Also I was always respectful to my phone, since it is the only device I have.
The phone is speedier with old stock ROMs and nougat ROMs, but not that speedier than then. So if I need to use newer version of ROMs and apps I should switch to a newer phone rather forcing Z2 to do all new stuffs.
I remember only a few phone models were capable of taking photos with GCams and Z2 was there in the list right after getting camera2API. Also it took and processed photos very fast. But now it is taking a lot of time even to click a photo.
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I really don't know why you had to replace your battery trice, I think it is a very seldom occurrence, nor I can say it happened due your usage, most likely it could be due you purchased a defective device.
About slowing down after time, I agree about the SSD consideration made by our buddy participating to this discussion because I recently red something about SSD since I'm going to replace my laptop HDD but also this kind of issue I believe it's happening seldom in smartphones.
I won't to cause frustrations writing that I've not noticed any slowness on my Zuk Z2 so far, just a little bit when I flashed Nameless kernel which was an EAS kernel.
Now on AEX 6.7 I'm using the default kernel which is giving to the Z2 an extremely fast responsiveness and smooth usability too.
I think I will try to run the SSD performance test suggested by our buddy (sorry I didn't wrote your name to mention it but you sent interesting comments indeed).
I'm sure that there are not many users affected by problems you are facing about slowness and battery, or better, it would be interesting to make a survey here on XDA to know how many people have such problems on their ZukZ2.
Best regards,
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P650SE said:
Well it only affects a small minority of people, I heard about 10% of users can experience these symptoms with AMOLED panels. It just means you are more sensitive to the flickering than other people. Sadly, the only way to find out is to purchase an AMOLED phone and try it for yourself. That's what happened with me.
I was of the understanding that flash storage can degrade over time in smartphones. I probably didn't do mine any favours by constantly flashing ROMs and copying files to it over the course of 3 years. I did some storage benchmarks and I'm only getting 33MB/s sequential write speeds. Random write 4K is even worse at 1.3MB/s average. Surely that's not normal.
https://files.catbox.moe/e1wu3r.png
Can anyone compare against my scores? The app is called CPDT Benchmark in the Play Store.
In regards to battery performance, mine still gives about 4 hours of SOT but that is disappointing when it used to last for 7 hours and 30 minutes. I always allow my phone to run completely out of battery which I heard isn't good for for in the long-term. So perhaps bad charging habits have caused more degradation.
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Very much interesting comments!
I think I will try to run the SSD benchmark but before I would like to ask you why you say that your results are bad?
Did you compared with another ZukZ2 user running similar environment?
About the battery we also have to take in account the adjustment we could have done to applications (running in background or not) the screen stby after X seconds, the charger we use, in fact there are plenty of chargers around that are not good for our battery but that are being used normally.
In any case your SOT looks very normal to me.
Regards,
P650SE said:
I was of the understanding that flash storage can degrade over time in smartphones. I probably didn't do mine any favours by constantly flashing ROMs and copying files to it over the course of 3 years. I did some storage benchmarks and I'm only getting 33MB/s sequential write speeds. Random write 4K is even worse at 1.3MB/s average. Surely that's not normal.
https://files.catbox.moe/e1wu3r.png
Can anyone compare against my scores? The app is called CPDT Benchmark in the Play Store.
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Here is my CPDT benchmark result which looks quite aligned with your, so I think that SSD performance has nothing to do with the slowness of the responsiveness of your Zuk Z2.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Saplin.CPDT
Regards,
mcalistri said:
Here is my CPDT benchmark result which looks quite aligned with your, so I think that SSD performance has nothing to do with the slowness of the responsiveness of your Zuk Z2.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Saplin.CPDT
Regards,
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Sorry, the result of my benchmark is not visible externally so I'm attaching the screenshot here.
Regards,