WIFI antenna performance / range - Google Pixel XL Questions & Answers

I currently have a Nexus 6, which I'm generally happy with. My main issue is that the WIFI network at work has poor signal and is basically unusable with my phone. I've been reading up on the Nexus 6p and allegedly it has a better WIFI antenna, which leads to better signal strength/performance. This makes me think about upgrading. If it allows me to use WIFI data, instead of mobile data, the upgrade would pay for itself.
How does the Pixel XL compare to both the Nexus 6 and Nexus 6p? Better, worse, or the same range/performance? Is this a compelling reason to upgrade?

theman22 said:
I currently have a Nexus 6, which I'm generally happy with. My main issue is that the WIFI network at work has poor signal and is basically unusable with my phone. I've been reading up on the Nexus 6p and allegedly it has a better WIFI antenna, which leads to better signal strength/performance. This makes me think about upgrading. If it allows me to use WIFI data, instead of mobile data, the upgrade would pay for itself.
How does the Pixel XL compare to both the Nexus 6 and Nexus 6p? Better, worse, or the same range/performance? Is this a compelling reason to upgrade?
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Coming from the 6P, which gave me max throughput from my ISP, the XL is significantly worse. From the same location in my house, I'm talking 300/24+ vs sub-70/20. Ping times are also double. The only way to get those initial speeds is if I'm sitting right on top of my router. I dont know why no one has been addressing or noticing this problem. Quite frustrating.

Wow, so it sounds like I should go with the 6p because it probably has a better range/performance?

link speed in my house depending on where I am in the house seems to range between about 150meg and 600meg on the Ghz, I go how ever have a quite high end router capable of over 1000meg on the GHz band, but for me it is a much better signal than the Note 7 had and MU-MIMO also seemingly helps with wifi performance over the Note (the Exynos UK Note 7 didn't support it) but the 5X and 6P did already have support for it, assuming your router also supports it, but that wouldn't be a difference between the google phones.
but for me in general terms the Wifi is superior to the S6 and Note 7 I had prior to it.

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[Q] Is anyone finding the wi-fi range on their Galaxy Nexus.. lacklustre?

It seems like the wifi range on my Nexus just doesn't hold up. Here's (attached) a shot I just took of my Galaxy Nexus and another of my iPhone4 in the exact same spot at the exact-ish same time.
The router is on the other side of the house, and while the iPhone4 and my Macbook (which i'm typing this on right now in the same spot, connected) pretty consistently stay at one or two bars at the very least, the Galaxy Nexus has a noticeable/distinct lack of ability to keep a consistent signal, and struggles to do so.
Every Samsung phone I've ever owned has this issue.
My work iPhone 4 works on the 3rd floor of my house (router in basement) with full bars whereas the Samsungs (GNEX included) barely connect.
Very frustrating as I like to use wifi to save carrier data. Oh well. At least I have unlimited data, so I stream away via 3g.
mine doesnt do as well as my motorolas and nokias but it still holds it own. The bars are not as indicative for me because even when showing no bars i have had a reliable connection.
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Actually I find it just cuts out continuously. I turned off "avoid poor connections" but that didn't make a noticable difference. It connects and reconnects all the time.
You can watch when i download a game it will hang for a few minutes then start the transfer or continue it again.
ericshmerick said:
Every Samsung phone I've ever owned has this issue.
My work iPhone 4 works on the 3rd floor of my house (router in basement) with full bars whereas the Samsungs (GNEX included) barely connect.
Very frustrating as I like to use wifi to save carrier data. Oh well. At least I have unlimited data, so I stream away via 3g.
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Aggravating. Anyone know if the SGSII is the same way?
Do any of you guys know if the wifi strength is an improvement over the nexus s?
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Do any of you guys know if the wifi strength is an improvement over the nexus s?
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It's a downgrade from GSII as far as I know.
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I am following this thread with great interest.
I have Motorola Razr and for me the WiFi reception is appalling.
It can only just see my home network.
To compare my three year old HTC Hero is showing seven!
I have a plan that allows my to connect to BT Openzone hotspots around the UK (something that is very important to me)
I went into my nearest town yesterday and it could not find a single WiFi signal!
I want to like my Razr, but I am finding it difficult and I was thinking that the Gnex would be the logical way to go but it seems that you guys are experiencing similar problems.
ive tested both phones as well.
the 4s definitely destroys both the wifi / cell reception on the galaxy nexus.
in my house my iphone is usually around -80 to -89 dbm but the galaxy nexus is -95 to -107. Kind of pathetic if you ask me but I like the phone way to much to go back to the iphone.
Definitely still having issues with this, if anyone is curious. At my girlfriend's house tonight, and despite the router being the next room over, the phone still can't keep a solid signal. It is rather pathetic, honestly. For Google/Samsung's sake, I hope this bug can be fixed via software.
my SGSII has terrible wifi performance also. My captivate had bad wifi performance also, so ill be used to it when I get the Nexus lol. Good thing the router is right next to me
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Jup it's pretty horrible the signal drops from 20mbps to 6mpbs if I put the nexus on a table just 6 meters away. S2 same prob although it doesn't seem to be as bad as the nexus.
I'm seeing the same thing on my Verizon Galaxy Nexus.
In the same room iPhone 4 and HTC Thunderbolt gets 3 or 4 bars, the nexus gets 1. Go into the next room, or god-forbid go into the basement and there's no wifi connection on the Galaxy Nexus but 3 or 4 bars still on the other phones.
There is certainly an issue.
I called VZW support and got the usual run around : reboot the phone, "we're sending new settings to your phone" etc. Finally he told me that it's probably a problem with the SIM card and they'd send me a new one. I said "no thanks, I want to talk to someone who knows what they are talking about."
After being transferred through to Samsung support I didn't get much further but the lady there at least knew what she was talking about.
They mentioned an upcoming software update, which I've been reading about, but I'm not sure that this is really the issue, since it's not just that it does't show enough bars, it loses the connection.
Tried a different radio?
At the moment there are many different smallband versions. And they all give a different signal. The smallband xxkk6 seems to be the best.
Try upgrading you smallband with the radio.img that can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374077 This is only for the gsm version.
My HTC Thunderbolt is the same way.
It has at least 25% stronger 4G and Wifi signal at all times.
Seems like Samsung uses weaker antennas to save on power, cost, and/or weight??
It's better than my Captivate was. Can't go by bars anyway.
I returned my Galaxy Nexus for a new one. Probably got a defect one from factory.
Lost connection to my wifi-network when i went around 2-3 meters from my router.
Tried switching channels, 2,4Ghz/5Ghz frequencies and flashing different radios. No go
My GN suffers from the "Avoided, poor network signal"
As many other have said its rather annoying when your trying to conserve your 3G Bandwidth Maybe Samsung will fix this in the coming weeks (Maybe not)
I found out that the WiFI signal icon on the GNex is misleading; on my Optimus 2X it was full and Wifi Analyzer showed -60 dBm. On the GNex it was half yet Wifi Analyzer showed -50 dBm, sometimes -60. The link speed is 65Mbps on GNex, 72Mbps on O2X. Both show Excellent signal strength in network details.

WiFi strength, range, and throughput

Rate this thread to express how you think the ZTE Axon 7's Wifi performs. A higher rating indicates that it has excellent range, throughput, and signal strength. Like when you're taking a dump in the bedroom upstairs, do your videos have to buffer or do they come through without interruption?
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Both the Wifi, and cell signals are weaker than the Nexus 6P and the Samsung S7 Edge by a fair margin. With the Wifi, this is most notable when you're on a level of a house other than the level of the router. The Wifi cuts out periodically, and its signal strength is about 1/3rd of the other two phones in the same location.
It's cell signal on T-Mobile is also significantly weaker than the signal with the same sim card in the same location on the 6P and S7 Edge. Difference is -114db (Axon) vs. -101db (Nexus).
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Both the Wifi, and cell signals are weaker than the Nexus 6P and the Samsung S7 Edge by a fair margin. With the Wifi, this is most notable when you're on a level of a house other than the level of the router. The Wifi cuts out periodically, and its signal strength is about 1/3rd of the other two phones in the same location.
It's cell signal on T-Mobile is also significantly weaker than the signal with the same sim card in the same location on the 6P and S7 Edge. Difference is -114db (Axon) vs. -101db (Nexus).
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Well crap, I'm planning on buying one of these on tmobile and I live in an already mediocre signal area. I get about -122 to at best -106 at home though I just use wifi. Have you noticed any real world issues with the speed? Is -114 the best it gets in a max signal area?
I am on Tmobile as well which makes this disappointing. A few of the other issues noted didn't really sway me but this could be a dealbreaker for me. As I have a S7 and am happy with it, short of small(ish) display, I cannot deal with poor signal on either cell or WiFi where as now it's pretty fantastic. I have 2 weeks to decide as Newegg still claims to be shipping the gray model then. Thanks for sharing.
Ahhhhhhhh. I still haven't received my phone but between this and camera issues I'm feeling very concerned about my purchase.
Axon 7 has weak Wi-Fi performance. 5ghz
fluctuates like a bouncing ball. Really hope it's not a bad antenna design with this phone.
Anyone else tested wifi ?
The guy from the zte webinar didn't even know it's AC capable phone. This doesn't inspire confidence.
My WiFi was running around 60mb on a 100mb link.
PLUS, I am only 3 feet from the router, nothing in between them.
Yep, same here. In the same places I used to get no service with 2014 devices (like the s4 era stuff) I get no service with the Axon 7. Most of my previous devices (s7e, n6p, 5x, n6, blah blah blah) all retained at least a weak signal in those areas. Wifi seems actually better than my S7 Edge Exynos though.
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My WiFi was running around 60mb on a 100mb link.
PLUS, I am only 3 feet from the router, nothing in between them.
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That's good but not much of a test for a Wi-Fi device.
You need to move at least 20 feet from the router.
All devices get good Wi-Fi performance if your a few feet from the router.
I have tested 50 dollar phones that get better Wi-Fi performance than this $400 phone.
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Yep, same here. In the same places I used to get no service with 2014 devices (like the s4 era stuff) I get no service with the Axon 7. Most of my previous devices (s7e, n6p, 5x, n6, blah blah blah) all retained at least a weak signal in those areas. Wifi seems actually better than my S7 Edge Exynos though.
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Actually I'm testing this phone in the same area as several older and newer devices with no dead spots.
The axon 7 is quite weak by comparison. No other device tested fluctuates signal strength when holding device still.
Very strange occurrence.
Could be a bad antenna design or maybe a few bad units. Hope it's a firmware fix!
It sounds badly. Radio volume can be pop up in the software but to tell true it does not help too much in practice without a good antenna. Also battery drain will be increased dramatically. It is hard to imagine such software bug which causes weak signal strength in both wifi and LTE signal cases. So it could be antenna issue most likely and if antenna design is bad that's it. Move on!
It would be good to read opposite experiences which can keep the hope.
It must be the lower end QCA6164. Max I can connect with axon 7 is 433Mbps. That is if I stand 1 to 3 feet from the router. More of a problem is the poor weak signal as you move away from router. Then connection is down to 190Mbps after 10 feet to 20 feet.
Must be a bad antenna system in this phone.
Most important part of a mobile device is connectivity. This phone is clearly weaker LTE and Wi-Fi than other phones.
Not everything that shines is gold
In my daily use, I don't notice any difference in wifi strength or speed vs my Nexus 6P or my Moto X Pure. In my back room, I still get as good or better speeds on speedtest.net using the app to test. I know this doesn't rate the db, but I notice no real difference.
It also stays connected about 70 yards up the street, about on par with my last few phones.
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In my daily use, I don't notice any difference in wifi strength or speed vs my Nexus 6P or my Moto X Pure. In my back room, I still get as good or better speeds on speedtest.net using the app to test. I know this doesn't rate the db, but I notice no real difference.
It also stays connected about 70 yards up the street, about on par with my last few phones.
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Do you mind telling what type of router you're Using? Qualcomm chipset routers work best with
This phone. Mine is a Netgear r7000 and it's not using Qualcomm chipset.
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tele_jas said:
In my daily use, I don't notice any difference in wifi strength or speed vs my Nexus 6P or my Moto X Pure. In my back room, I still get as good or better speeds on speedtest.net using the app to test. I know this doesn't rate the db, but I notice no real difference.
It also stays connected about 70 yards up the street, about on par with my last few phones.
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Do you mind telling what type of router you're Using? Qualcomm chipset routers work best with
This phone. Mine is a Netgear r7000 and it's not using Qualcomm chipset.
yaya444 said:
do you mind telling what type of router you're using? Qualcomm chipset routers work best with
this phone. Mine is a netgear r7000 and it's not using qualcomm chipset.
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do you mind telling what type of router you're using? Qualcomm chipset routers work best with
this phone. Mine is a netgear r7000 and it's not using qualcomm chipset.
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Netgear r6250
tele_jas said:
In my daily use, I don't notice any difference in wifi strength or speed vs my Nexus 6P or my Moto X Pure. In my back room, I still get as good or better speeds on speedtest.net using the app to test. I know this doesn't rate the db, but I notice no real difference.
It also stays connected about 70 yards up the street, about on par with my last few phones.
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How is your LTE reception/speed versus 6P?
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How is your LTE reception/speed versus 6P?
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Once again, I don't have actual db numbers, but my "bars" show lower but my connection is just as good and fast, or even slightly better in certain areas.
At my work, I had 4-5 bars of LTE on my 6P.... On the Axon 7, I have 2-3. But, the LTE speeds on the Axon 7 are on par to what the 6P was, and actually slightly better.
At home, I had 1-2 bars on my 6P - It's the same on the Axon 7, but when I go to the back of the house I would drop signal on almost all phones (except my Moto X Pure), but the Axon 7 will still let me carry on a conversation and not cut out.
So, I don't know what the actual numbers are, but I know I get signal where I didn't before and it's typically on par with, or better than my 6P.
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Once again, I don't have actual db numbers, but my "bars" show lower but my connection is just as good and fast, or even slightly better in certain areas.
At my work, I had 4-5 bars of LTE on my 6P.... On the Axon 7, I have 2-3. But, the LTE speeds on the Axon 7 are on par to what the 6P was, and actually slightly better.
At home, I had 1-2 bars on my 6P - It's the same on the Axon 7, but when I go to the back of the house I would drop signal on almost all phones (except my Moto X Pure), but the Axon 7 will still let me carry on a conversation and not cut out.
So, I don't know what the actual numbers are, but I know I get signal where I didn't before and it's typically on par with, or better than my 6P.
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Thank you.
Other accounts on the ZTE forums are saying that is substantially worse than 6P or even the mediocre Oneplus One. This gives me hope at least.
WiFi is longer range on my 2.4ghz axon 7 vs my g3.
Haven't tested the data connection thoroughly enough to OPIN on that.
What is a recommended test for wifi and LTE data speeds? - speedtest.net app?
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What is a recommended test for wifi and LTE data speeds? - speedtest.net app?
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That is a good app for the wan but, what about a lan testing app. Anybody know of an Android app for wifi testing the local area network?

Cellular strength and throughput

We know how much you like to stream, ahem, "videos", and so cellular data is mega-important. Rate this thread to express how you think the Samsung Galaxy Note 7's LTE performs. A higher rating indicates that it's fantastic: throughput is excellent and signal strength is top-notch.
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So far so good here, no issues what so ever!
I gave 4 stars. It far better than my note 4 was. I did a speed test, in an area I have done numerous speedtests with the 4, and with the 4 I averaged 12mbps(being generous here) down, and 1mbps (after a few seconds at 0) up. With this 7, I got a 38mbps down, and 12 mbps up.... showed the same amount of bars as the 4 usually did, but obviously performed much better.
Keep in mind, I live in the middle of nowhere in Maine... speed tests were performed with about 2-3 bars (fluctuating).
For me its been much worse than my Note 5. Not really sure what's going on. Carrier is Virgin Mobile (Bell Canada)
Is there anybody who can compare Note 3 (n9005) with Note 7?
It's about 70% as good as my 6P but I can deal. I would have LTE and 3 bars in my office building .. Note 7 fluxuates between LTE 1 bar and HSPA+ or nothing at all. Thank God for TMO wifi calling, eh?
Hmm, it doesn't sound promising at all. :/ Signal reception is a big weakness of my Note 3 so I expected little bit more from a new device (and after few years of development) - I see that there are still some issues on Samsung side in compare to other brands and models especially at high-end market.
WiFi calling (and VoLTE) isn't supported by O2 Czech network yet because they are... kind of slow and "specific".
What about Note 7 and iPhone 6S/6S+ or LG G4? My colleagues have these devices so I can test and compare it little bit in real life with my Carrier.
Btw. Thanks man!
I'd rank it about equal to my note 4, which is disappointed but most things are as I get older...
BableMan said:
I'd rank it about equal to my note 4, which is disappointed but most things are as I get older...
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Its a little better than my note 4. Little louder and clearer. Not crazy better, but better.
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Its a little better than my note 4. Little louder and clearer. Not crazy better, but better.
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Then we have different builds, mine suffers from worse speaker quality. I've assumed that's the trade off we get for being able to drop it in a toilet.
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Then we have different builds, mine suffers from worse speaker quality. I've assumed that's the trade off we get for being able to drop it in a toilet.
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Hard to say really, we do have quite a bit of HD coverage here, also havent talked a lot on this yet, but from what I have its been good.
I had questionable service with my GS5 down in my basement, and now there's no question at all about the service on my Note 7 - it's non-existent. I cannot make or receive calls down in my basement anymore; have to go upstairs. This was rarely the case with my GS5, both on Sprint. Just my experience.
Perhaps it is the fault of AT&T and not the phone itself, but I get a shoddy signal at my house. I do live in a rural area, however, but it could be better nonetheless. Note: In town and in cities, I get perfect cellular strength.
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Is there anybody who can compare Note 3 (n9005) with Note 7?
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I got the Note 7 to replace my Note 3. I am on Verizon. The Note 7 has been leaps and bounds better than the Note 3 as far as cell reception. I could not use my Note 3 at home without a Network extender and now my Note 7 works everywhere, even the basement, without a hiccup. I originally, before purchase, thought I would need to use the WiFi calling feature here at my home, but there is no need. On my daily route, I used to have 2 dead spots, where I always dropped calls on my Note 3, but I have had no issues with the Note 7. I believe that may be in part due to the VOLTE capabilities that the Note 7 has over the Note 3. The Note 7 would be the perfect phone if they would have built it with a flat screen. I don't see any real use for the edge panels and I have already turned them off. No need for insurance or screen protector on the Note 3 and it still looks perfect. I am seriously contemplating getting insurance for the first time as I am extremely paranoid about breaking this thing. If it weren't for how much I use the S-Pen, I would have probably waited to see what the other manufactures come out with. Hopefully, the paranoia will wear off.
Is not compatible with sprint signal booster air rave, but i also havent seen it reach high network speed on lte. so far not impressed.
I'm coming from an LG V10 and it's definitely a bit worse in the signal strength but the actual speeds seem to be about the same. I tether my phone for home internet and I always sit it in the exact same spot in my window because I found where the best signal is. With my V10 I'd have about -105 to -109db and with the Note 7 I'm getting about -114. I might need to move it around a bit and see if I can get any better. When you have a strong signal it flies though. Today in the city while I had a full signal (not sure the db's but 5 bars were full) I got 99.8Mb down and almost 17Mb up Verizon just upgraded a lot of the network in my area.

How is the signal reception on the 5T?

I'm thinking about getting a 5T, but I've read reports of low signal reception. What is your experience?
Data or WiFi? Data has been strong as I use AT&T.
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WiFi and data signal are both very strong for me as well using AT&T, but my other phone is an Essential which has horribly bad reception on both, so that's not saying much. Wife has a Moto X Play and gets about the same reception as me.
I have no problem at all with reception. Even on the 5 GHz band, the service is very good for a long distance.
Wifi, Data and GPS are very good for me. Far better than my LG G3.
No issues here, much better than my old Nexus 5. What an improvement
Can anyone comment comparing to the 3T? I am guessing it isn't much different.

WiFi strength, range, and throughput

Rate this thread to express how you think the Samsung Galaxy S10+'s Wifi performs. A higher rating indicates that it has excellent range, throughput, and signal strength. Like when you're taking a dump in the bedroom upstairs, do your videos have to buffer or do they come through without interruption?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I've noticed a huge upgrade in wifi strength , coming from a Note 9 . So am happy with that regard.
Hi,
Is anyone facing Upload Mode-CP Crash issue on Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus. Can't believe 2nd unit out of the box is having same issue. I have a dual SIM Exynos SM-G975F variant brought in Oman. 1st unit had this issue, even the 2nd replaced unit has the same issue. Phone freezes with a message Modem Crash!! & goes into Upload Mode. This happens at least 4 to 5 times a day.
Any suggestions.
Thanks,
I switched to S10+ from Mate 20 Pro. Connectivity it is way way better than S10+ and all my previous samsungs ( Note1-4, S2,4,7,8) . All wi fi, gps, 4g, signal in the mountains, etc etc in Huawei is not simply better. Is way way better
But I love more S10+ for everything else : soft, video, speakers, display, etc etc
I have both a note 2 and a note 5 here, as well as an Asus tablet, all of which are able to see and connect to hotspots located in businesses down the street from my home. They also show varying numbers of other neighborhood wifi networks. The S10+ however sees exactly 3 networks. Mine, and my next door neighbors 2.4 and 5 g ssids. That's it.
That said, the connection to my home network holds strong throughout my place, despite it dropping a bar or two in certain areas. Usually see upwards of 800Mbps indicated, and have no issue maxing my 350Mbps wan.
Not bad, but if I'm out and am in the presence of a weak signal, I might not even know it exists. This may actually work to my benefit though, because weak wifi signals really suck.
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Maybe I am late to comment here. I have Note 9 for around 7 months and 2 weeks back switched to Galaxy S10+. A major drawback I am seeing with my device (running latest update) is Wifi signal strength which is not as good as Note 9. I used to get very strong reception in the areas around the house (I still have Note 9 and compared them both), but S10+ shows no signal for wifi in those areas. I have a dual band 5Gx and 2.4GHz networks and the strength is better for both bands on Note 9. Not saying it is a big issue, but the signal quality is not as good as Note 9. Does anyone switched from Snapdragon Note 9 experience the same difference?
The worst wifi and Lte signal i have ever encountred....coming from note 9 i thought am upgrading but now i miss my note 9
This phone has very bad WIFI range, + stupid Samsung software which kills low signal networks from even showing in list, you need use 3d party app to connect to them like WIFI analyzer..

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