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is there a beta of android 4.0 for R800x i here the beta for 4.0 is out in beta now but is there one for the R800x?
No. That's why people are still skeptical that Verizon is even working on it
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No. That's why people are still skeptical that Verizon is even working on it
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dos any one on here no if Verizon is working on it????????
Snow755 said:
dos any one on here no if Verizon is working on it????????
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Again, no... like I just said people don't know about Verizon's progress
Snow755 said:
dos any one on here no if Verizon is working on it????????
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How about you wait until the official release for the R800i/a/at is released, then ask Verizon
i can only hope and pray that verizon has it working...i'm not holding my breath though, figure it will be sometime in may before we hear anything from big red
If I am not mistaken, Verizon has pretty much told us to go get bent. They will not be doing any more updates for the r800x.
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If I am not mistaken, Verizon has pretty much told us to go get bent. They will not be doing any more updates for the r800x.
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I was at the Verizon store last night and they had 4 xperia plays on display. Had not been in there in months and was surprised to see they still had it........ not saying that due to this they will make the update. But just saying surprised they still offer it as they obviously couldn't give a sh!t about this device (or any of their devices in general)
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I was at the Verizon store last night and they had 4 xperia plays on display. Had not been in there in months and was surprised to see they still had it........ not saying that due to this they will make the update. But just saying surprised they still offer it as they obviously couldn't give a sh!t about this device (or any of their devices in general)
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Since when has VZW given a **** about _ANY_ of their phones after a period of 2 months of launch? Seriously 95% of the time their advice is Full Reset, Exchange the handset for a same-model refurb, or buy a new shiny handset. They aren't their to support any of these devices, they are there to make money shoveling as many devices in as many brackets as possible. This is why they have these periods of exclusivity for launches. Which is why the Galaxy Nexus got delayed for about 1-2 months on VZW versus _ALL OTHER LAUNCH NETWORKS WORLDWIDE_.
I don't expect VZW to ever put out an update to r800x. We are stuck on 2.3.3, which breaks the compatability for any purchased PS games bought on the market. On top of that, they don't support purchases that are made through their crappy software store (VZWapps) and often charge premium prices for apps that are free on Market. They hijacked the normal Xperia Launcher to only work with VZWapps, and blocked out the functionality of numerous other things (unless you root and modify numerous things).
VZW doesn't care anything but about making money off of you. If any of them are telling you otherwise, it is just PR speak that they are told to say.
(Yes I'm a cynical, bitter person, but I still like VZW better than AT&T)
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Since when has VZW given a **** about _ANY_ of their phones after a period of 2 months of launch? Seriously 95% of the time their advice is Full Reset, Exchange the handset for a same-model refurb, or buy a new shiny handset. They aren't their to support any of these devices, they are there to make money shoveling as many devices in as many brackets as possible. This is why they have these periods of exclusivity for launches. Which is why the Galaxy Nexus got delayed for about 1-2 months on VZW versus _ALL OTHER LAUNCH NETWORKS WORLDWIDE_.
I don't expect VZW to ever put out an update to r800x. We are stuck on 2.3.3, which breaks the compatability for any purchased PS games bought on the market. On top of that, they don't support purchases that are made through their crappy software store (VZWapps) and often charge premium prices for apps that are free on Market. They hijacked the normal Xperia Launcher to only work with VZWapps, and blocked out the functionality of numerous other things (unless you root and modify numerous things).
VZW doesn't care anything but about making money off of you. If any of them are telling you otherwise, it is just PR speak that they are told to say.
(Yes I'm a cynical, bitter person, but I still like VZW better than AT&T)
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I was implying, maybe didnt word it very well, but I was implying they do not give a monkeys butt about their phones unless its shiny and new. I agree with you. I have been with VZ for a year and I am not happy with them. In another year I will jump ship. Also, I rooted my phone and deleted all the Vcast apps, rebooted and now the android market shows up in the games laumcher instead of the Vcast.... hate vcast
ryocoon said:
Since when has VZW given a **** about _ANY_ of their phones after a period of 2 months of launch? Seriously 95% of the time their advice is Full Reset, Exchange the handset for a same-model refurb, or buy a new shiny handset. They aren't their to support any of these devices, they are there to make money shoveling as many devices in as many brackets as possible. This is why they have these periods of exclusivity for launches. Which is why the Galaxy Nexus got delayed for about 1-2 months on VZW versus _ALL OTHER LAUNCH NETWORKS WORLDWIDE_.
I don't expect VZW to ever put out an update to r800x. We are stuck on 2.3.3, which breaks the compatability for any purchased PS games bought on the market. On top of that, they don't support purchases that are made through their crappy software store (VZWapps) and often charge premium prices for apps that are free on Market. They hijacked the normal Xperia Launcher to only work with VZWapps, and blocked out the functionality of numerous other things (unless you root and modify numerous things).
VZW doesn't care anything but about making money off of you. If any of them are telling you otherwise, it is just PR speak that they are told to say.
(Yes I'm a cynical, bitter person, but I still like VZW better than AT&T)
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Ah, my friend, there is nothing bitter about the truth.
No, but I heard that SE is working on a separate release of 4.0 just for R8800x. Will Verizon roll it out? Hell no.
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No, but I heard that SE is working on a separate release of 4.0 just for R8800x. Will Verizon roll it out? Hell no.
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Couldn't they just finish that up and release a compatible *.ftf file for those interested? Instead of just tossing out all that work?
You all do realize that it is still only February, right? Android 4.0 release date was slated for a "POSSIBLE" release sometime in March or April. How about waiting until the end of April and seeing how that goes for the other models of the Play before you start complaining. In fact, in view of Verizon's slowness to adopt new updates, I wouldn't lose hope until the end of 2012.
If you have the luxury of an unlocked bootloader, I suggest using CM7.2 from FreeXperia. They are currently working on porting 4.0 to the R800 family, and it's going well from what I've heard.
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Couldn't they just finish that up and release a compatible *.ftf file for those interested? Instead of just tossing out all that work?
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We are talking about Verizon here. They don't approve anything until it's perfect. Don't see why they couldn't release a beta, and then do updates.
Verizon... and perfect releases? Dude, what have you been smokin'? I've had 4 Androids, a Blackberry and I can't even remember how many "feature phones"... and none of them could EVER qualify as perfect, no matter how many updates they released. The Play has been the closest, and it's not perfect by any means.
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Verizon... and perfect releases? Dude, what have you been smokin'? I've had 4 Androids, a Blackberry and I can't even remember how many "feature phones"... and none of them could EVER qualify as perfect, no matter how many updates they released. The Play has been the closest, and it's not perfect by any means.
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I think he means perfect by "VZW stardards" (bloated and neutered to virtually unusable proportions).
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I've been with Verizon since 2007 & they haven't supported any phone beyond release. They've pissed me off thoroughly with the lack of releases for the Samsung Fascinate (gone due to piss poor performance) & the R800x. I hate this whole dodgy BS that seems to keep perpetuating beyond the normal. Next phone I get will probably be a flagship phone, since I know that it will get huge support from the dev community. This is completely insane & I'm getting pissed off with the general lack of community support (with a few exceptions but not many like the GSM models) for the R800x since VZW has abandoned us as well.
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I've been with Verizon since 2007 & they haven't supported any phone beyond release. They've pissed me off thoroughly with the lack of releases for the Samsung Fascinate (gone due to piss poor performance) & the R800x. I hate this whole dodgy BS that seems to keep perpetuating beyond the normal. Next phone I get will probably be a flagship phone, since I know that it will get huge support from the dev community. This is completely insane & I'm getting pissed off with the general lack of community support (with a few exceptions but not many like the GSM models) for the R800x since VZW has abandoned us as well.
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Remember that the biggest reason that this phone didn't sell well was the lack of support in the first place. That means that there are fewer of our phones in use than a lot of others, and we have few dev's because of that.
Hi all...Just received my one x, purchased from eBay...slightly used...Just like to know what sort of things i need to check out using stock firmware before starting to mess with rooting and custom roms etc in case there is something wrong and i need to return to htc under warranty which I'm hoping they'll honour even though i don't have a receipt and btw how long is the warranty for...read on various forums indicating it may be two years which would be very good!
Thanks in advance...Ash
Sorry, just to add are there any serious/common problems with the one x as my sgs2 was pretty fault free.
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Hi all...Just received my one x, purchased from eBay...slightly used...Just like to know what sort of things i need to check out using stock firmware before starting to mess with rooting and custom roms etc in case there is something wrong and i need to return to htc under warranty which I'm hoping they'll honour even though i don't have a receipt and btw how long is the warranty for...read on various forums indicating it may be two years which would be very good!
Thanks in advance...Ash
Sorry, just to add are there any serious/common problems with the one x as my sgs2 was pretty fault free.
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All electronic goods in the EU are covered for 2 years (even if the standard warranty is one year in the individual member state (such as the uk))
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All electronic goods in the EU are covered for 2 years (even if the standard warranty is one year in the individual member state (such as the uk))
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Are you sure...I've thrown things away thinking they were out of warranty!
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plus you are covered by ebay and paypal anyway if the product you bought does not match the description you bought it as or anything wrong with it..ebay always favors the buyer more than the seller so you should be covered by them to if you get any issues with the phone
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Hi all...Just received my one x, purchased from eBay...slightly used...Just like to know what sort of things i need to check out using stock firmware before starting to mess with rooting and custom roms etc in case there is something wrong and i need to return to htc under warranty which I'm hoping they'll honour even though i don't have a receipt and btw how long is the warranty for...read on various forums indicating it may be two years which would be very good!
Thanks in advance...Ash
Sorry, just to add are there any serious/common problems with the one x as my sgs2 was pretty fault free.
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Is yours the international Teg3 version or the AT&T S4 version? Assuming its Teg3, the warranty varies based on the country the phone was originally sold in. Its two years for the UK and the EU. For unlocked phones, I'd imagine HTC would ask for some sort of proof of purchase. Samsung did when I needed my i9100 repaired in the UK. Some people have actually gotten HTC US to service their international phone which is something Samsung would never do.
As for things to look for I'd guess you've already checked the build quality and the display. There have been some QC issues; especially on early devices. A small percentage of phones have a Wi-Fi h/w fault so you'll want to make sure you're getting a Wi-Fi signal at least as good as you're i9100. Mine's actually better so yours should be to. Other routine things to check are the cell signal, BT, GPS, audio output via the headphone jack, etc. Also make sure it has the latest update (.11 assuming it's a UK/EU device) if you're going to run the stock ROM.
I came from a i9100 and can answer any "how do I?" questions you might have. The One X is a fantastic phone and does everything better than the i9100 ever did. There's also a massive update coming soon that moves the phone to 4.0.4 and hopefully a 3.X kernel. Initial reports are better benchmarks, battery life, and a bunch of UI fixes.
i don't think there would be or is anything wrong but just wanted to check any common problems other users may also have experienced so i can check those particular things.
I paid £240 for the phone fully boxed...is that a decent deal...it's black/grey?
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i don't think there would be or is anything wrong but just wanted to check any common problems other users may have experienced so i can check those particular things.
I paid £240 for the phone fully boxed...is that a decent deal...it's black/grey?
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very good deal mate...mine is grey as well and i also came from the s2..i love this phone...very happy
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Is yours the international Teg3 version or the AT&T S4 version? Assuming its Teg3, the warranty varies based on the country the phone was originally sold in. Its two years for the UK and the EU. For unlocked phones, I'd imagine HTC would ask for some sort of proof of purchase. Samsung did when I needed my i9100 repaired in the UK. Some people have actually gotten HTC US to service their international phone which is something Samsung would never do.
As for things to look for I'd guess you've already checked the build quality and the display. There have been some QC issues; especially on early devices. A small percentage of phones have a Wi-Fi h/w fault so you'll want to make sure you're getting a Wi-Fi signal at least as good as you're i9100. Mine's actually better so yours should be to. Other routine things to check are the cell signal, BT, GPS, audio output via the headphone jack, etc. Also make sure it has the latest update (.11 assuming it's a UK/EU device) if you're going to run the stock ROM.
I came from a i9100 and can answer any "how do I?" questions you might have. The One X is a fantastic phone and does everything better than the i9100 ever did. There's also a massive update coming soon that moves the phone to 4.0.4 and hopefully a 3.X kernel. Initial reports are better benchmarks, battery life, and a bunch of UI fixes.
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Thanks for a very detailed and useful post...I'm in the UK and was told the phone is unlocked...can't really tell what processor it is as it only says quad core in the about box!
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Thanks for a very detailed and useful post...I'm in the UK and was told the phone is unlocked...can't really tell what processor it is as it only says quad core in the about box!
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It's a Teg3 international phone then. Go to the market and get "CIC check." It's for HTC phones and will tell you the CIC of your phone. That'll tell what market the phone was originally intended to be sold in. Post your CIC and someone will tell you where it's from.
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It's a Teg3 international phone then. Go to the market and get "CIC check." It's for HTC phones and will tell you the CIC of your phone. That'll tell what market the phone was originally intended to be sold in. Post your CIC and someone will tell you where it's from.
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No app in market called cic check except a lockscreen app?
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No app in market called cic check except a lockscreen app?
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Duh? Sorry. It's CID.
Here's the link...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwxLDEsIm9yZy50cml0b25zb2Z0LmNpZGdldHRlciJd
Just downloaded the app...there are references to HTC Europe and UK mobile networks such as Vodafone Tesco gifgaff etc and there are also references to tegra but I'm not sure exactly what I'm looking for and where abouts it's shown on screen?
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So... I'm coming up for my first JUMP on 1/19. I'm considering getting the Galaxy Note 3 or the LG G2. I've heard a lot about the KNOX flag and the warranty being void but I'm curious about any experience with trade-ins.
According to T-Mobile, the only things they check when you exchange a phone using JUMP is that a) it doesn't have a cracked screen, b) it doesn't have water damage, and c) it powers on and boots.
They didn't mention anything about checking for tripped flags, root, or anything else (and at this store pretty much all of the guys there have rooted their phones). Does anyone have experience with this yet or know concrete info? I'm ready to dump the One like a bad habit but I'm not going to get a Note 3 if I have to worry about not being able to trade it after 6 months because I chose to free the device to run to my specifications.
Considering that every phone on T-Mobile is 0 down right now, I'll be getting a new phone on the 19th and the only thing that is pushing me towards the G2 is the concern that I might not be able to trade in the Note 3 later and get stuck paying 708 dollars for it.
I had turned in my note 2 for the 3 and just turned it back stock and no issues.. He didn't look into software.. Just made sure it works
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I had a LG g2 as a loner and was not happy with camera or the no SD card slot. That was a deal breaker
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I had turned in my note 2 for the 3 and just turned it back stock and no issues.. He didn't look into software.. Just made sure it works
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I guess I'll just call them and see what they say about it. I think you're probably right and that I'm freaking out about nothing but I don't want to make a 708 dollar mistake and I don't want an S4. Maybe I'll wait for the S5... I don't really know at this point.
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I had a LG g2 as a loner and was not happy with camera or the no SD card slot. That was a deal breaker
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I have an HTC One so I have the same 32GB of internal storage and a worse camera than the G2.
Trust me, I've spec'd both phones and I want the Note 3 but KNOX is holding me back for two reasons - one in case T-Mobile checks it when I do my next upgrade and two because it appears to have stopped a lot of development for the phone. I don't see much in the way of custom ROMs over here, especially compared to the One since AT&T, T-Mobile, and international variants are all 100% ROM compatible with each other.
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I guess I'll just call them and see what they say about it. I think you're probably right and that I'm freaking out about nothing but I don't want to make a 708 dollar mistake and I don't want an S4. Maybe I'll wait for the S5... I don't really know at this point.
I have an HTC One so I have the same 32GB of internal storage and a worse camera than the G2.
Trust me, I've spec'd both phones and I want the Note 3 but KNOX is holding me back for two reasons - one in case T-Mobile checks it when I do my next upgrade and two because it appears to have stopped a lot of development for the phone. I don't see much in the way of custom ROMs over here, especially compared to the One since AT&T, T-Mobile, and international variants are all 100% ROM compatible with each other.
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We have great roms but it would be ur call. I know the specs are one thing but you can go to store and test camera. As far as Knox. I have sent back 5 phones all rooted and never got a problem. The phones went back cause it was t mobile not knowing how to fix issue. The dev of tweaked helped me fix it.
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We have great roms but it would be ur call. I know the specs are one thing but you can go to store and test camera. As far as Knox. I have sent back 5 phones all rooted and never got a problem. The phones went back cause it was t mobile not knowing how to fix issue. The dev of tweaked helped me fix it.
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Oh I believe you about the camera but my One has been taking pink photos in low light for months now so anything is an upgrade lol.
I wouldn't be worried about warranty exchanges, I've sent back phones with jacked up bootloaders for that no problem lol. When you use JUMP they actually look at the phone though because its a trade in to get a new model and they wipe out the balance of the old one. I guess I might take the risk. Out of the box I've heard the Note 3 isn't really too bad on stock software anyway. I've got a Nexus 7 if I want to play with custom ROMs and such. I'll ask the store about it when I go trade in my One though. I have a guy there that I always deal with who roots his phones (he's the one who actually told me how to fix a problem I was having with my One's signal by flashing an unofficial radio) so I'll ask him what's up.
If you have Jump, the phone has a carrier warranty which doesn't void because of Knox flags. Only the manufacturer warranty (people who don't pay the extra$ for Tmo warranty) get hassled if rooted, Tmo employees could care less (USA)
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If you have Jump, the phone has a carrier warranty which doesn't void because of Knox flags. Only the manufacturer warranty (people who don't pay the extra$ for Tmo warranty) get hassled if rooted, Tmo employees could care less.
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I been saying that since day one. Some people just love to worry.
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Who here is thinking of JUMP!-ING to another phone in 5 to 6 months? I know I am. Well maybe lol
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Who here is thinking of JUMP!-ING to another phone in 5 to 6 months? I know I am. Well maybe lol
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I don't know what i am going to do in 4 months. I don't see a much better phone on the horizon. The gs5 is just going to feel so small. Maybe the note 4 will come by Christmas and I'll trade up every year or so.
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I don't think I can go back to a smaller screen. Held my wifes s3 and it feels so tiny, I have been spoiled by the Note's screen size.
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Who here is thinking of JUMP!-ING to another phone in 5 to 6 months? I know I am. Well maybe lol
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it jump only provides value (or at least yields the best return) if you commit to upgrading every six months, as every month beyond that you're paying off the balance that would otherwise be wiped out in an upgrade--the whole reason you're paying the premium in the first place.
I wonder if they would allow an upgrade to another note 3.
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If you have Jump, the phone has a carrier warranty which doesn't void because of Knox flags. Only the manufacturer warranty (people who don't pay the extra$ for Tmo warranty) get hassled if rooted, Tmo employees could care less (USA)
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I know that T-Mobile doesn't void their warranty, even when you root a phone.
However... I wasn't sure how that worked on trade ins.
I called the store today and the training that they've gotten regarding ANY trade-in is just to make sure that there is no water damage, the screen isn't cracked or otherwise damaged beyond hairline scratches and that the device powers up.
They said that since they just refurb them anyway, they aren't concerned with anything else.
I think I've pretty much made up my mind to go for the Note 3 in light of this information. Especially since I don't hear about overheating with it like I do with the Nexus 5, the G2, and the Z1. Apparently the G2 gets so hot that it actually reboots... Too close to home for me with all the issues with rebooting the G2x had. I can't see myself wanting a GS5 and the HTC One+ looks like its just a marginal upgrade to the One. I'd consider waiting for it if I could get confirmation it was going the have the Snapdragon 805 but Qualcomm themselves have said devices using it will be out in the second half of the year so really, I can't go wrong with upgrading to the Note 3 now.
I'm going to do just a little bit more research to make sure it doesn't have the thermal issues but so far, it looks like a green light. Hopefully it doesn't take much work to get N9005 ROMs to work on N900T models.
Thanks everyone!
And when it comes to the Jump upgrade period, it depends. If you get your upgrade at 0 down, its still a savings at the 1 year mark. Besides that, the monthly cost for Jump is only 2 bucks more than insurance and warranty were by themselves and its the same price if you had the 11.99 that the Note II and Note 3 required. If you don't upgrade often though, the benefits definitely diminish.
Thank you so much for this thread, everyone. I got the Note 3 not knowing about Knox and was hesitant to root it. After reading this thread, I'm going for it.
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Thank you so much for this thread, everyone. I got the Note 3 not knowing about Knox and was hesitant to root it. After reading this thread, I'm going for it.
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What ever rom you decide on installing just read the tread and follow the op carefully
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What ever rom you decide on installing just read the tread and follow the op carefully
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no problem there. I've rooted phones before, so I realize the potential damage.
We don't check for root just do a 3 point inspection you'll be fine
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I turned in s3 with cyogen... they only care if it boots up...
For now anyway
Erckul said:
Thank you so much for this thread, everyone. I got the Note 3 not knowing about Knox and was hesitant to root it. After reading this thread, I'm going for it.
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Coming from the Galaxy Nexus, I forgot about stuff like Knox. Good to know it shouldn't be an issue. Been rootin' and romin' since the D1 and haven't ever had to return a phone for anything related.
This is horrible not having root this long. It's a completely new and raw feeling. Every android phone I've ever had had got root the same day I picked it up. The og DROID was a development veteran. The Droid X, eh.. The galaxy nexus speaks for itself. The note 2 had great development as did my note 3. Then I pick up a AT&T note 4 thinking I had nothing to worry about as this is my first AT&T phone. A month later and even though this phone is awesome, its horrible not having root. I don't blame anyone but AT&T. What's a**holes. I LONG for Viper Audio & Xposed...
I feel your pain...which is exactly why I'm chomping at the bit for my Nexus 6 to arrive . I'll probably carry them both, as I think the camera is better in the Note 4..........but I want my Xposed! I gotta save those snapchats! LOL
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This is horrible not having root this long. It's a completely new and raw feeling. Every android phone I've ever had had got root the same day I picked it up. The og DROID was a development veteran. The Droid X, eh.. The galaxy nexus speaks for itself. The note 2 had great development as did my note 3. Then I pick up a AT&T note 4 thinking I had nothing to worry about as this is my first AT&T phone. A month later and even though this phone is awesome, its horrible not having root. I don't blame anyone but AT&T. What's a**holes. I LONG for Viper Audio & Xposed...
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Hard to believe you didn't do your research.. AT&T has been requesting locked bootloaders from the OEMs since before the Note 3.
Sad to say this phone will probably not get cracked before Lollipop gets pushed down. After that, thenodds are probably even more unlikely. I don't think, (even though there is a long list of folks donating), that we have actually gotten confirmation that any devs are working on an exploit for this one.
If you just must have root, you'd be better off using the T-Mobile variant.
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I don't blame anyone but AT&T. What's a**holes. I LONG for Viper Audio & Xposed...
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it sucks but its the price we pay for having a more secure device.
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it sucks but its the price we pay for having a more secure device.
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If I wanted a "more secure" device, I would have bought an iPhone. Not having root on the N4 is frustrating.
Sell the phone and get a T-Mobile... That's what I'm going to do if no root come out soon
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If I wanted a "more secure" device, I would have bought an iPhone. Not having root on the N4 is frustrating.
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That would make sense except the iPhone is actually less secure... Already has jailbreak...
The fact is that AT&T and Verizon want non rootable phones. Period. And that isn't likely to change.
People that 'need' root need to make 100% sure a phone is rooted before they buy it. It is going to be more and more unlikely that phones with locked boot loaders will be rooted.
If you buy a phone that doesn't have root, then don't complain.
JasonJoel said:
People that 'need' root need to make 100% sure a phone is rooted before they buy it. It is going to be more and more unlikely that phones with locked boot loaders will be rooted.
If you buy a phone that doesn't have root, then don't complain.
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Exactly, this has been said enough, and most people have happily moved on to non root apps.
Honestly I can't believe I didn't do the research either. I should have known better smh. might have been a little to excited to snatch one up on my own line. But I'll definitely be selling it for a SM-N910T as soon as I can. What the f*ck AT&T.
Meh. You should have known before you bought it.
I am having a hard time believing all of this as well. I'm actually putting off my upgrade because of it. Sitting here with my year-old Note 3 that I rooted 2 hours after I bought it, kinda thinking about going another direction, I just really like my current plan
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How long did it take for the ATT note 3 to get rooted?
Blame Samsung
The bottom line is SAMSUNG makes the phone, not ATT. They should stop being a bunch of ******* and just say our phone comes with an unlocked bootloader. PERIOD. What are they going to do? Not carry the hottest device out there? I doubt it
I might be in the minority but to me, for the first time ever since I started using Android, I don't feel like root is necessary. Sure, it would be nice to have Xposed and TiBu, but I seem to manage fine with this phone.
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The bottom line is SAMSUNG makes the phone, not ATT. They should stop being a bunch of ******* and just say our phone comes with an unlocked bootloader. PERIOD. What are they going to do? Not carry the hottest device out there? I doubt it
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And what business reason is there for Samsung to do that? As long as people are buying the phones, they won't bother.
If sales falter (people buying tmobile instead of the att version doesn't count) and people are vocal on why, then something may change... But I doubt it.
Nexus 6
Mistake!
I bought my nexus 6 3 week ago.. I noticed immediately that the phone is faster that my note buy that's about it because my note had way more features, better hardware and I miss all of that now....
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The bottom line is SAMSUNG makes the phone, not ATT. They should stop being a bunch of ******* and just say our phone comes with an unlocked bootloader. PERIOD. What are they going to do? Not carry the hottest device out there? I doubt it
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Amen... just upgraded to Note 4 from Note 2, two weeks after my AT&T contract expired and got a note from AT&T that I could now unlock my phone... whoops for them, a bit too late. Patiently waiting for these phone manufacturers to stop bending over for the carriers and start insisting on unlocked devices right out of the factory.
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If you have chosen to buy an AT&T/Verizon phone then you're gonna have to live with it, buddy. That's why I kept my N3 and didn't rush for the N4. That's what I've always done. Once a phone (from those two carriers) comes out, I'd just wait and watch for a couple of months if it gets rooted. If not then sell the old one and add a little bit of money and buy me an unlocked one.
From my Allianced S5!
If you want root figure a way to do it yourself, otherwise just wait patiently.
I got over not having root after maybe 5 or 6 days. Ads suck but the Note performs better than my old rooted phone, and the camera is epic, I can live without root...
Can i please get some advice? (sorry a bit long but thought i need to provide the background info).
I have been given a Samsung Note 7 as a compensation-related gift by my network operator Vodafone and to cut a very long story short i have almost exhausted all possibilities with Vodafone and Samsung to get it exchanged for a different model or a credit.
I am currently looking at the possibilities of keeping my Note 7 if i feel i can assess (and possibly repair) it privately to confirm the safety implications and any other issues that may come up.
My questions are as follows:
1. Has anyone had success changing the Imei and model number? The reason is to protect myself from network barring and to retain app support. I have a previous Note and can use the imei. My plan was to change the model to G935F that of an S7 Edge. (There are some sites i came across but I wasn’t sure the guides were tested)
2. Can i root it and will i be able to update it regularly from core android?
3. Will the Wifi-calling feature work? Sounds like a small thing but its quite important. I have this feature on my Note 7 already and activated on my account and its very useful to me.
I live in the UK and I am an Engineer by trade. I worked for a cellular phone repair centre a number of years ago that specialised with Samsung and Nokia phones.
Whilst i have some experience and contacts in the industry, my knowledge of the current software/ firmware platforms on the market is limited so i would greatly appreciate any advice you can give.
Thanks in advance
not too sure about how you would transplant the hardcoded iemi number mate... are uk note 7s actually confirmed being banned?
You can root it and from that you can add features from the xposed library that will surely extend the life of your note 7 for years.. by which time the note 8 should be out in some form.
I read on maybe this site, or another, that someone had their Note 7 thinking it was the S7 yet still fully functioning as a Note 7 (Grace UI, etc)
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not too sure about how you would transplant the hardcoded iemi number mate... are uk note 7s actually confirmed being banned?
You can root it and from that you can add features from the xposed library that will surely extend the life of your note 7 for years.. by which time the note 8 should be out in some form.
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Thanks for info. I'm not sure if they will fully inforce a ban but the procedure for returning the n7's is pretty much the same, minus the fire proof boxes (read into that what you like). I want to see what needs to be put in place if they do.
Any idiots guide for rooting and where to download files would be appreciated.
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I read on maybe this site, or another, that someone had their Note 7 thinking it was the S7 yet still fully functioning as a Note 7 (Grace UI, etc)
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If you do that would be great.
I'm trying to stoke up some support in the uk to appeal to Samsung to at least reassess the n7's already out there but there's only a few interested. I believe there is more support in the US which may provide a much stronger case.
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If you do that would be great.
I'm trying to stoke up some support in the uk to appeal to Samsung to at least reassess the n7's already out there but there's only a few interested. I believe there is more support in the US which may provide a much stronger case.
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The official release date in the UK for the Note 7 was next week, October 28th, which ironically was the same date as the Note 2 release, Note Edge release and Galaxy View release, just different years.
Call me crazy, I recognize a pattern here.
I am a serious Note user, so instead of following the crowd I will either consider the LARGE 18.4" Galaxy View or the 6" Curved Screen Huawei Mate 9. Hmmm, Mate, Note?
For some strange reason there aren't many Samsung Stylus Devices available, can't find the Note Pro 12.2 on sale anywhere. Something is definitely up. All I know is I feel sorry for those Pixel, iPhone 7, V20 blinded sheeple.
What's their reason for refusing to exchange?
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What's their reason for refusing to exchange?
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Samsung can't help because I didn't buy it direct and Vodafone said it was giving to me as a gift and not linked to my account so I need to deal with Samsung. I know this sounds ludicrous but Vodafone are a nightmare and I was ready to book myself into rehab after the effects of previous issues. I could take this up with an ombudsman but it takes time and I'm not sure I have the energy.
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Samsung can't help because I didn't buy it direct and Vodafone said it was giving to me as a gift and not linked to my account so I need to deal with Samsung. I know this sounds ludicrous but Vodafone are a nightmare and I was ready to book myself into rehab after the effects of previous issues. I could take this up with an ombudsman but it takes time and I'm not sure I have the energy.
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The recall is voluntary. Do not believe those people who say your IMEI will be blocked or barred. It will only be blocked if the phone was purchased in a payment plan and You fail to return it. Or if You fail to keep the payments. The recall is absolutely VOLUNTARY. Do not be afraid. Many of us are keeping the phone, because we know the risk is now minimal.
All electronics have the possibility to fail. All batteries have the risk of catching fires. This risk is a lot greater when the device begins their lifecycle. So now the risk is minimal. Samsung did not take "probability" into consideration before sending those replacement phones. Meaning if you had 50 in 2 million to catch fire with the original. Now you had 50+30* of catching fire in the replacement. (*More o Less)
Samsung has a great opportunity to collect data and usage information with us. Otherwise if people panic they will just scrap the Note Series all together.
Good Luck! ?
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In short: No you can't change your IMEI, but that is not needed. If you don't want Samsung to directly know that your device is a Note 7, you need to change your device name in build.prop (but to do this you need root) and to deactivate software updates.
But I recommend you to not use the device. Samsung may not release any software updates, and the risk of exploding is still there. Even if the risk is very small, it can happen at any time, and the more time you spend with this device, the bigger is the risk.
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In short: No you can't change your IMEI, but that is not needed. If you don't want Samsung to directly know that your device is a Note 7, you need to change your device name in build.prop (but to do this you need root) and to deactivate software updates.
But I recommend you to not use the device. Samsung may not release any software updates, and the risk of exploding is still there. Even if the risk is very small, it can happen at any time, and the more time you spend with this device, the bigger is the risk.
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Thanks for your reply SaschaHa. I am just weighing up my options while waiting for a reply from Samsung hq. If i was use it I would be after I had assessed it internally.
Although Samsung wont provide updates will I be able to semi - regularly update it manually from stock? Eg nougat 7 was originally in the pipeline for the n7.
Also would wifi - calling get carried over/ integrated in the build?
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The recall is voluntary. Do not believe those people who say your IMEI will be blocked or barred. It will only be blocked if the phone was purchased in a payment plan and You fail to return it. Or if You fail to keep the payments. The recall is absolutely VOLUNTARY. Do not be afraid. Many of us are keeping the phone, because we know the risk is now minimal.
All electronics have the possibility to fail. All batteries have the risk of catching fires. This risk is a lot greater when the device begins their lifecycle. So now the risk is minimal. Samsung did not take "probability" into consideration before sending those replacement phones. Meaning if you had 50 in 2 million to catch fire with the original. Now you had 50+30* of catching fire in the replacement. (*More o Less)
Samsung has a great opportunity to collect data and usage information with us. Otherwise if people panic they will just scrap the Note Series all together.
Good Luck! ?
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Thanks CerveCesar for your advice. How will you be upgrading your roms ie to nougat 7 etc?
ccsuk said:
Thanks for your reply SaschaHa. I am just weighing up my options while waiting for a reply from Samsung hq. If i was use it I would be after I had assessed it internally.
Although Samsung wont provide updates will I be able to semi - regularly update it manually from stock? Eg nougat 7 was originally in the pipeline for the n7.
Also would wifi - calling get carried over/ integrated in the build?
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You only can update it manually if some rom developers port firmwares from other Samsung devices to the Note 7 (if Samsung doesn't release updates). But that mostly is only possible for the same Android version, so there might never be a Nougat rom for Note 7. So then the only possibility to get a newer Android version is to use a AOSP / CM(14) based rom, if a developer created one for the Note 7. But without proper drivers by Samsung, that's difficult. And I think, the most developers are going to use other devices instead of risking a burning N7.
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Thanks CerveCesar for your advice. How will you be upgrading your roms ie to nougat 7 etc?
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I'm staying factory. I did not disable the 80% battery option because we ran a study and found overcharging to be 1 of 3 factors in starting fires. If Samsung sends the Nougat update, then I will just update. The customs ROMs I'm not a big fan of, because it seem one always looses some cool feature like heart monitor, Samsung Pay or scanner. I got a Note 3 that I plan to use as my flying phone and my Note 7 will be my daily driver
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I'm staying factory. I did not disable the 80% battery option because we ran a study and found overcharging to be 1 of 3 factors in starting fires. If Samsung sends the Nougat update, then I will just update. The customs ROMs I'm not a big fan of, because it seem one always looses some cool feature like heart monitor, Samsung Pay or scanner. I got a Note 3 that I plan to use as my flying phone and my Note 7 will be my daily driver
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Do you mean 60% battery limitation update? Fyi I spoke with a samsung rep today that had called into one of the stores, he believes there is a kill type update coming to force customers hands. I have the 1st addition (non batt update) so if I was to keep it I would have to root. As mentioned wifi calling is also an issue. Samsungs got a lot to answer for ditching such a great device and one that can be repaired
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Do you mean 60% battery limitation update? Fyi I spoke with a samsung rep today that had called into one of the stores, he believes there is a kill type update coming to force customers hands. I have the 1st addition (non batt update) so if I was to keep it I would have to root. As mentioned wifi calling is also an issue. Samsungs got a lot to answer for ditching such a great device and one that can be repaired
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Unless they have a Sprint Note 7 60% otherwise you can bump up to 80% charge. I recommend you get advise from an Engineer rather than a Sales Rep
I no longer have the pictures but click:
1.- Settings
2.- Device Maintenance
3.- Battery Icon
4.- Advanced Settings Menu
5.- Disable the "Limit maximum charge to 60%" tab
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ccsuk said:
Samsung can't help because I didn't buy it direct and Vodafone said it was giving to me as a gift and not linked to my account so I need to deal with Samsung. I know this sounds ludicrous but Vodafone are a nightmare and I was ready to book myself into rehab after the effects of previous issues. I could take this up with an ombudsman but it takes time and I'm not sure I have the energy.
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CerveCesar said:
The recall is voluntary. Do not believe those people who say your IMEI will be blocked or barred. It will only be blocked if the phone was purchased in a payment plan and You fail to return it. Or if You fail to keep the payments. The recall is absolutely VOLUNTARY. Do not be afraid. Many of us are keeping the phone, because we know the risk is now minimal.
All electronics have the possibility to fail. All batteries have the risk of catching fires. This risk is a lot greater when the device begins their lifecycle. So now the risk is minimal. Samsung did not take "probability" into consideration before sending those replacement phones. Meaning if you had 50 in 2 million to catch fire with the original. Now you had 50+30* of catching fire in the replacement. (*More o Less)
Samsung has a great opportunity to collect data and usage information with us. Otherwise if people panic they will just scrap the Note Series all together.
Good Luck! ?
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I just want to be clear about something. You guys are from the UK, yes?
Is the recall not the same as the US or elsewhere where the recall is mandatory and not voluntary?
BozQ said:
I just want to be clear about something. You guys are from the UK, yes?
Is the recall not the same as the US or elsewhere where the recall is mandatory and not voluntary?
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I'm not from the UK however I did purchase the Singapore (Same as UK) version and I'm using it on ATT Mexico.
Please refer to the Voluntary recall at: http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/
As of today the recall is only mandatory in Germany. Note 7 is banned on all flights in the US and part of Mexico. The mandatory recall will take time as the Consumer Product Safety Commission has to run a full investigation on the matter
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BozQ said:
I just want to be clear about something. You guys are from the UK, yes?
Is the recall not the same as the US or elsewhere where the recall is mandatory and not voluntary?
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I am
CerveCesar said:
I'm not from the UK however I did purchase the Singapore (Same as UK) version and I'm using it on ATT Mexico.
Please refer to the Voluntary recall at: http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/
As of today the recall is only mandatory in Germany. Note 7 is banned on all flights in the US and part of Mexico. The mandatory recall will take time as the Consumer Product Safety Commission has to run a full investigation on the matter
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Hello from Singapore then.
I suppose you're keeping your unit then.