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Hi there. I came across the opportunity of buying a brand new Xiaomi Mi5 64GB for a very low price (195€). I'm tempted, because it has a much better camera than my Mi Max and I value that. It looks better as well, and has a better SoC (not much difference IRL though). On the other hand, I love phablets and the 6.44" screen is the very reason I bought the Mi Max.
Taking in account that I would pay nothing (I can sell my Mi Max for the same price I'd buy the Mi5), what do you think? Would you trade the Mi Max for a Mi5 64GB?
No. Working a lot on the move and the big 6.44" is something I never want miss.
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Me? No. Since I brought the mi max for the screen size and battery life. But if you are after the camera then go buy the mi5
Cocoyg said:
Me? No. Since I brought the mi max for the screen size and battery life. But if you are after the camera then go buy the mi5
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... better buy a camera.
I'm looking to buy new phone, now I have Redmi note 4 global edition, but I want smaller size phone. Headphone jack is not important for me.
I can get Xiaomi for about 436 $ and Huawei p10 for 500 $
I don't know what to buy.
check gsmarena for comparison hardware-wise. but i would get the p10 since they are nicer with kernel sources and its a better looking phone imo. i have the mi6 now...
consider the complain between these 2, P10 is better.
Ps. i have Mi6 , not so bad but not feel like top phone
Did anyone of you used P10 ? I'm little scared only for battery life, because miui is nicely optimised for battery consumption.
Robi959 said:
Did anyone of you used P10 ? I'm little scared only for battery life, because miui is nicely optimised for battery consumption.
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because p10 has better options for custom roms, you can flash a well-made one. You also avoid bloatware
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because p10 has better options for custom roms, you can flash a well-made one. You also avoid bloatware
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P10 got custom rom? Are you serious? point me one custom rom please
As I can see there is just one custom rom xD
I will see because difference between these two phones is almost 100 €
saxmydix said:
P10 got custom rom? Are you serious? point me one custom rom please
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Robi959 said:
As I can see there is just one custom rom xD
I will see because difference between these two phones is almost 100 €
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Huawei recently released their source for kernel.
So roms should be on their way!
https://www.xda-developers.com/kernel-sources-released-for-the-huawei-mate-9-and-huawei-p10/
While we havent heard anything from Xiaomi and it has been about 6months since the release of the mi 6
Huawei released the kernel sources 4 months ago, still not an single aosp/linage rom...
Way better on the Mi6 even without the kernel sources.
Looking back at the time frame of previous kernel sources drops: we should expect an release in October.
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Huawei released the kernel sources 4 months ago, still not an single aosp/linage rom...
Way better on the Mi6 even without the kernel sources.
Looking back at the time frame of previous kernel sources drops: we should expect an release in October.
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all depends on the dev support, just look at honor 8 and 9.
Mi6 is better. I had P9 and huawei release kernel sources and what? One dev make lineage os which works worser than the worst custom rom on mi5. But EMUI is ok, like miui.
Had P10,overheating,bad battery life due to old CPU as well as GPU performance & throttling make Mi6 a clear winner here. Also there was no oleophobic coating and u risk getting a model with anciennt memory speeds(it's a lottery,i ended up with slow one).
NisseGurra said:
Huawei released the kernel sources 4 months ago, still not an single aosp/linage rom...
Way better on the Mi6 even without the kernel sources.
Looking back at the time frame of previous kernel sources drops: we should expect an release in October.
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Still, kirin phones don't have much dev love and popularity around developers as Snapdragon does. Xiaomi mi 6 will have by far better and more roms than any huawei phone.
The Honor 9 might be another option, since it's slightly cheaper than the P10, depending on where you are.
I have the Mi6 and love it. It's the best phone I've owned. It has the fastest SD processor, a great display, great sound, a great camera, fast charging, and a notification LED.
Since I was curious, I recently purchased a OnePlus 5. Even using the Google camera app, the OP5's photos weren't as good as the Mi6's. The Mi6's colours were far more natural and true to life, especially the skin tones and colours on trees. The OP5 felt huge, too.
The Honor 9 (and probably the P10) seems very similar to the Mi6, but it seems slightly inferior in every category. If you compare GSM Arena's reviews, the Honor's processor is slightly slower, battery charging takes longer, the battery is smaller, there's less RAM in the cheapest variant, there's no Gorilla Glass and the 1080P videos are inferior. MIUI seems to receive more updates than EMUI, too.
Yeah MIUI got more updates. Just one problem i have with MIUI, expandable notifications on lockscreen and in list, you can do it with two fingers but that's. Hope they will implement that in the future updates.
p10 battery and camera is better. My friend has p10
Codseus said:
p10 battery and camera is better. My friend has p10
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maybe camera but defiantly not battery!!!
Codseus said:
p10 battery and camera is better. My friend has p10
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Battery is laughable comparing to Mi6
Too many people not knowing what they re talking about are writing in this topic.
mi6 is a clear winner
P10 camera might be a little bit better... Might.
But nothing beats the Mi 6 with battery. Nothing.
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Dear All,
I need to buy a new phone & getting confused between Mi 5 & Mi 5s
Please suggest which one is better over all.
Mi 5 3/32 or Mi 5s 3/64 GB
Price difference is only 30$
Thank in Advance
Mi5s is a upgraded version from the Mi5 with a better build quality, bit faster processor and a better camera. So in my opinion it is really worth those 30 dollar with current custom ROMs making great use of these plus points.
8166uy said:
Mi5s is a upgraded version from the Mi5 with a better build quality, bit faster processor and a better camera. So in my opinion it is really worth those 30 dollar with current custom ROMs making great use of these plus points.
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...And with really sh*tty fingerprint reader. You get better fingerprint reader on xiaomi redmi 3s.
With my phone it's working perfectly (always has btw), and so is with anyone using the latest firmware as far as I know.
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With my phone it's working perfectly (always has btw), and so is with anyone using the latest firmware as far as I know.
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MI5s ultrasonic fingerprint reader was advertised as very accurate and fast and you could unlock phone with wet or dirty fingerprint, but in real life that's not true. From the beginning speed and accuracy wasn't so great and few months ago my fingerprint reader just stopped working.
Google is full of links like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/5glh5l/xiaomi_mi_5s_fingerprint_sensor_the_worst_i_have/
I regret i didn't buy xiaomi mi5 or oneplus 3.
Which were firmware problems. Those were fixed recently.
/EDIT: To be fair I think for most people the Xiaomi A1 is a better choice. Excellent build quality, Android One, much better battery life, more network bands and a nice low price of 180 euro's at the moment. Unless you game a lot, you probably won't feel the difference in speed all that much.
Example (other shops have roughly same prices):
http://www.dx.com/p/xiaomi-mi-a1-android-7-1-2-4g-phone-w-4gb-ram-64gb-rom-black-852481868
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To be fair I think for most people the Xiaomi A1 is a better choice. Excellent build quality, Android One, much better battery life, more network bands and a nice low price of 180 euro's at the moment. Unless you game a lot, you probably won't feel the difference in speed all that much.
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Or if you want better battery life you can go with Xiaomi redmi note 4 or Xiaomi redmi 5 plus, but they don't have band support like A1 and stock Android. If you don't game too much, everything with Snapdragon 625 or similar would be good enough for everyday usage and battery friendly. Also you can consider buying Huawei honor 9 lite or Huawei honor 7x.
Buy MI5s for its camera. FP is okay don't worry not as fast as others but if that is your main point I have to laugh.
Well, the build quality of Mi 5 is a bit worse.
I strongly recommend to buy Mi 5s instead of Mi 5. It's the improved version of Mi 5 with full-metal body, faster SoC, better camera sensor(same as the Pixel).
I'm using Mi 5s and I think fp is ok.
Better buy neither of them, they are both ****y phones, buy something from oneplus or mi 6/mix 2.
Mateusz_gameplay said:
Better buy neither of them, they are both ****y phones, buy something from oneplus or mi 6/mix 2.
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Oh, it's so helpful to writing this without telling any reason.
Battery in this phone is joke, fingerprint scanner works 1/10 of the time, ram management does not exist.
Again, just update the firmware...
It won't help, trust me
Fingerprint working near perfect on my Mi 5s with latest Global stable ROM. I really like my Mi 5s 128GB, only battery time could be a bit better, but that's the CPUs fault mostly.
Also have a look at the Mi 6 which offers optical image stabilizer, which the Mi 5 also has, but the 5s sadly lacks.
I have previously owned both 5s and 5s plus. 5s has good build quality and camera but bad fingerprint reader and mediocre battery life. The larger sibling, 5s Plus is much better IMO. More vibrant screen, slightly faster performance, much better fingerprint reader and battery life. The image sensor on 5s plus is worse but still takes good images if you install the ported google camera mod. I would also consider Mi Note 3 or Mi Mix 2.
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I have previously owned both 5s and 5s plus. 5s has good build quality and camera but bad fingerprint reader and mediocre battery life. The larger sibling, 5s Plus is much better IMO. More vibrant screen, slightly faster performance, much better fingerprint reader and battery life. The image sensor on 5s plus is worse but still takes good images if you install the ported google camera mod. I would also consider Mi Note 3 or Mi Mix 2.
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Did you have the Mi5S long enough to install the firmware version of the first of March? That one has given the big change. Before that, the FP sensor was indeed not very good.
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Did you have the Mi5S long enough to install the firmware version of the first of March? That one has given the big change. Before that, the FP sensor was indeed not very good.
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No, I sold mine in february this year. I am suprised that they finally fixed the FP-reader (one and half year after the release).
I think everyone is
Battery life and FP reader are solved in Miui Pro BETA by Belorus team. Non beta roms all have bad battery life anyway. I do talk here with gaming and without. Now i freely use it all day
Hello everyone, I need your opinion and help
TLDR I need phone with big screen and good performance, is Mi Max 1 still worth buying in 2018?
Long Story
I need device with big screen and good performance vs price. After long searching, going back and forth in tablet or phablet
I found that Mi Max is one of the best contender, with old but strong SD 650 and humongous 6.5" screen.
There's Redmi Note 5 Pro with 5.99" screen, better performance but I already have Mi 6 with 5.2" display, the display difference isn't that much, so I think there's no point having Note 5 Pro.
on the other hand, Mi Max 2 is good but weak, and Mi Max 3 is beast but too expensive.
On the good side, Mi Max is big,cheap, and good performance and rich XDA community. There's less to no bug on each new developed ROMs, right? as Zenfone 2 user I'm jelly haha :silly:
On the down side, it's 2yrs old already, still use micro USB.
I find it difficult to find another device that can beat this proposition but I'm open to any new suggestions.
I'm thinking of buying the 3/32 variant around $124
I'm gonna use this phone for multimedia, little bit of gaming (PUBG, Vainglory etc), and probably as car HUD.
So, what do you think? is it still worth it? Is there any other alternatives?
Thanks in advance
A.f.a.I.c. there are no better alternatives yet. First of all, screen size and ratio is most important for me. All phablets have that ugly notch these days and no dedicated hardware buttons. I've been looking at the Mi Max 3, but found out it has no coloured LED notification light (how stupid is that?). Huawei Honor Note 10 may be an option, but don't like the EMUI shell.
What's wrong with micro USB? You could use one of these if you don't like the micro USB connector, a lot cheaper than buying a new phone
https://www.ebay.com/itm/RAXFLY-Mic...1b:m:m7hqOpyZpTqJRBibCHhC9_A&var=601537300954
The Mi Max 3 has much better camera but the CPU is not very fast, does not have NFC (AGAIN) and no LED colour notifications. I wouldn't but the 3/32, get a deal for the 652 ones or wait till something better comes our way.
maybe LG V20 ?
I just bought a LG V20 on aliexpress because it s shock proof, has removable battery, better camera and better performance (but smaller screen) than mi max 1.
I believe there ll be promotions next week on aliexpress and you ll be able to find them for less than 140E (so more expensive than the mi max 1 ... but maybe you ll be able to find them cheaper elsewhere ... I am in France and they have not be sold here so it was kind of logical for me to import it ... )
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I just bought a LG V20 on aliexpress because it s shock proof, has removable battery, better camera and better performance (but smaller screen) than mi max 1.
I believe there ll be promotions next week on aliexpress and you ll be able to find them for less than 140E (so more expensive than the mi max 1 ... but maybe you ll be able to find them cheaper elsewhere ... I am in France and they have not be sold here so it was kind of logical for me to import it ... )
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I don't trust LG. And it's not that big....
I would not buy the snapdragon 650 variant, maybe the one with 652 (3gb/64gb or 4gb/128gb). But just save up for the mi max 3. It is only $250, similar to the new price of the mi max 1.
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I would not buy the snapdragon 650(2gb/32gb or 3gb/32gb) variant, maybe the one with 652 (3gb/64gb or 4gb/128gb). But just save up for the mi max 3. It is only $250, similar to the new price of the mi max 1.
I have the 650 variant, and it is a bit slow and youtube 2x speed freezes at 720p60fps or higher.
If your S650 device is having issues with 720p YouTube content then it is purely your private issue. I own Mi Max 1 3/32 for 2 years now and never had a lag/spike during watching any videos. This goes for YouTube, Twitch and many other services.
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After 2 years I'm still able to get 3-4 days up with 9h sot (it used to be 10h+). Device is fast. Heck, I'm using miui 10 right now with CPU governor set to powersafe and battery optimization turned on - no lags at all. Modded gcam improves photos a lot. If you can get this phone really cheap then go for it. If you do not need such phone right now then do the same thing I'll do - wait until November sales (11.11 if I'm not mistaken) - most phones get their prices cut down a bit by then - and buy a Mi Max 3 (6.9 inches with same phone size will be great for media consumption). I used to change phones every 4-6 months. Mi Max is first phone I own for such a long time because there is simply no competition for this price.
No problems here with youtube or Twitch. I have the 652 variant, though.
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Despite the color, the notification led of Mi Max 3 is barely noticable. They should allow to use the front flash instead.
Thank you for the responses so far, I really apreciate it, guys :highfive:
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A.f.a.I.c. there are no better alternatives yet. First of all, screen size and ratio is most important for me. All phablets have that ugly notch these days and no dedicated hardware buttons. I've been looking at the Mi Max 3, but found out it has no coloured LED notification light (how stupid is that?). Huawei Honor Note 10 may be an option, but don't like the EMUI shell.
What's wrong with micro USB? You could use one of these if you don't like the micro USB connector, a lot cheaper than buying a new phone
https://www.ebay.com/itm/RAXFLY-Mic...1b:m:m7hqOpyZpTqJRBibCHhC9_A&var=601537300954
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I agreed, no better alternatives yet for this such price vs display vs performance, and ofc notches be gone lol.
I have no prob with colorless LED Notification tho'
Honor Note 10 price rn is $510 for 4/64, that's crazy. Also I don't want to do the same mistake with Huawei/Kirin like I did with Asus/Intel. I would love to have stable custom ROM for once lol.
MicroUSB is just me being nitpicky hahaha, I don't have anything against MicroUSB tho, since most of my gadget still use it.
I also looking for that particular acc but Xiaomi Mi6 isn't compatible with magnetic adapter..meh..too bad (CMIIW)
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The Mi Max 3 has much better camera but the CPU is not very fast, does not have NFC (AGAIN) and no LED colour notifications. I wouldn't but the 3/32, get a deal for the 652 ones or wait till something better comes our way.
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NFC might not too important for now, not in my home country at least hahaha
Hm.. but how abt the custom ROM compability for 652? I heard 650 is more popular and stable.
I checked Mi Max SD652 3/64 is about $147
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I just bought a LG V20 on aliexpress because it s shock proof, has removable battery, better camera and better performance (but smaller screen) than mi max 1.
I believe there ll be promotions next week on aliexpress and you ll be able to find them for less than 140E (so more expensive than the mi max 1 ... but maybe you ll be able to find them cheaper elsewhere ... I am in France and they have not be sold here so it was kind of logical for me to import it ... )
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Nice idea, but V20 still too small, I wish they went full Max like Mi Max
The price difference not that high for the V20 2nd hand unit tho'
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I would not buy the snapdragon 650 variant, maybe the one with 652 (3gb/64gb or 4gb/128gb). But just save up for the mi max 3. It is only $250, similar to the new price of the mi max 1.
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I would not buy the snapdragon 650(2gb/32gb or 3gb/32gb) variant, maybe the one with 652 (3gb/64gb or 4gb/128gb). But just save up for the mi max 3. It is only $250, similar to the new price of the mi max 1.
I have the 650 variant, and it is a bit slow and youtube 2x speed freezes at 720p60fps or higher.
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How about the SD 652 compability for custom ROMs? and also I read SD 652 consume battery lot more and over heat more than SD 650
here's the article https://www.techcenturion.com/snapdragon-625-vs-650-vs-652
And what about normal speed? does it struggle too at 60fps?
$250 is twice the budget I have right now for Max1 lol
Maczuga said:
If your S650 device is having issues with 720p YouTube content then it is purely your private issue. I own Mi Max 1 3/32 for 2 years now and never had a lag/spike during watching any videos. This goes for YouTube, Twitch and many other services.
And now to the topic:
After 2 years I'm still able to get 3-4 days up with 9h sot (it used to be 10h+). Device is fast. Heck, I'm using miui 10 right now with CPU governor set to powersafe and battery optimization turned on - no lags at all. Modded gcam improves photos a lot. If you can get this phone really cheap then go for it. If you do not need such phone right now then do the same thing I'll do - wait until November sales (11.11 if I'm not mistaken) - most phones get their prices cut down a bit by then - and buy a Mi Max 3 (6.9 inches with same phone size will be great for media consumption). I used to change phones every 4-6 months. Mi Max is first phone I own for such a long time because there is simply no competition for this price.
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Beta MIUI 10? Even my Mi6 didn't get official stable MIUI 10 yet lol
3-3days up? sounds promising hahaha
I'm thinking of putting Ressurection Remix in Mi Max tho' and I'd like to try gcam mod
The price rn still stable at $124
True, Max 3 have nearly identical physical size of Max 1. But the price is still outrageous (but it's a new new device ofc), I checked it's around $270 in here, price cut won't do them much justice.
I might not need such device urgently but I'm itching to buy one lol
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Beta MIUI 10? Even my Mi6 didn't get official stable MIUI 10 yet lol
3-3days up? sounds promising hahaha
I'm thinking of putting Ressurection Remix in Mi Max tho' and I'd like to try gcam mod
The price rn still stable at $124
True, Max 3 have nearly identical physical size of Max 1. But the price is still outrageous (but it's a new new device ofc), I checked it's around $270 in here, price cut won't do them much justice.
I might not need such device urgently but I'm itching to buy one lol
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Yea, MIUI 10 from Xiaomi.eu - most of Xiaomi phones got their builds there, you might wanna check it out. I had to switch back again to RR 5.8.5 due to WiFi drain for me on MIUI 10. $124 is a pretty good price for Mi Max. I'd go for it. Or just like I said before - wait until 11.11 (but I wouldn't expect for price to drop that much on Mi Max 1). After doing more research I think I'm gonna wait for some other phone to show up for upgrade, so looks like 1 more year with Mi Max for me . Mi Max 3 is not really an upgrade if you take a look on that closely (battery feels even worse). Who knows, maybe Xiaomi sub-brand POCOPHONE will show up with something interesing (F1 already looks promissing, but there is no IR blaster for remote nor NFC for payments, so already too much to give up).
Here are the specs
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_a3-9769.php
What is your opinion, is this a good or bad choice ?
That moment when you record with selfie camera 1080p but your display can show only 720p
Do you think there will be A3 Pro ?
In my opinion Mi A3 is a step backwards.
MI A2 has a better display and a better SOC despite the fact that it's an year older. In-display fingerprint scanner and wide lens are good additions but simply it's not enough. Having an HD+ display in 2019 in a mid-range smartphone is crazy. Snapdragon 665 is worse compared to SD 660 in terms of Gpu performance. Very disappointed by Xiaomi.
Totally dissapointed. I will keep my Mi A2 with 6/128 gb.
I'm also disappointed with the A3 specs the cc9 on which it's based gets the 710 processor and 6gb ram so why is the A3 getting less? I'm still running an A1 which I've loved for 2years was hoping this would be an easy choice.
I'm also trying out Havoc on a mi pad 4 might end up with a Chinese market phone that havoc supports......
I have an A1 and was hoping that A3 would be a no brainer for me. I guess i'll stick with it for a while now... 720p screen is a no-go.
Let's wait and see if there will be any "Pro" version of this phone.. Even A2 Lite has a full hd screen.
Mi A1 still a decent device for me. It doesn't really look like an upgrade
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Mi A1 still a decent device for me. It doesn't really look like an upgrade
Best smartphone under 300 PPI
I don't really care about the capacity, S660 is still good for me, but I've expected NFC on Mi A3 for Google Pay... :crying::crying:
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I don't really care about the capacity, S660 is still good for me, but I've expected NFC on Mi A3 for Google Pay... :crying::crying:
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They put the stupid infrared port instead of a NFC sensor. It cost nothing. Also 720p display.
It is a 2012 phone for 250 euros!
What about battery life? It must be interesting. 720p amoled display + 4000mah battery + energy-saver chipset must be good for longer battery life. A cant found any battery life test, and sot time info so far...
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Totally dissapointed. I will keep my Mi A2 with 6/128 gb.
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I have the 4/64 variant, but still going to keep, one year and mi a4.
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I have the 4/64 variant, but still going to keep, one year and mi a4.
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Beware, Mi A4 is rumored to have a 480p display
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What about battery life? It must be interesting. 720p amoled display + 4000mah battery + energy-saver chipset must be good for longer battery life. A cant found any battery life test, and sot time info so far...
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This. I'd take one if it has good battery optimization (*cough* mi8 w/ miui 10). I'll take better battery life + super amoled over higher res screen anyday.
Unless your usage revolves around an app/site that doesn't support zooming (ie. gmail), 720 vs 1080p has no noticeable difference.
source: current phones: mi8, a1, axon 7 mini, mi4c, nexus 4.
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Beware, Mi A4 is rumored to have a 480p display
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I hope cam2api comes enabled by default this time.
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I hope cam2api comes enabled by default this time.
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Yes its enabled, i saw one video where was checked Manual Camera Compatibilty app
Im thinking about ordering, but i need infos about battery life, but nothing was found yet
Ordered one (64GB)today on Gearvita for 237USD = 212€ with shipping to Germany. If somebody is interested, you get this price only with coupon code "ROMiA364G" wich you enter during checkout. Original price is much higher. I come from A2 and hope for much better Camera (perheps with Goggle Camera if API2 really enabled) and better battery life...
since on GSMarena Mi A3 and Mi CC9e compare almost equal, I wonder if the 128/6 GB CC9e would be able to run Mi A3 Android One and Mi A3 firmware. I also wonder if Mi A3 and Mi CC9e are A/B devices regardless of internal storage size.
@Dior DNA
Like previous generations, the MIUI counterpart (in this case, Mi CC9e) has legacy A-only partitioning scheme whereas the Android One variant has A/B one. Frankenbuilding should be possible, but complete conversion is a complicated job.
i think it's a marketing stunt - and if it's not, i feel real sorry for them. it's still a lousy move on their part.... as soon as they've pushed a first batch of converted cc9e-s (aka mi a3) they will magically release a mi a3 pro based on the standard cc9 which will be an awesome phone. it fixes everything bad in the mi a3. (screen, nfc better soc) while still keeping everything that's nice about the third gen android one. amoled, big battery.
even if they dont release it, if the cc9 gets good developer support (considering the sources are already out i hope it will) it's gonna be my next go to phone.
L.E. they only reason i see that they didnt use the cc9 is politics. with those specs it would directly compete with the pixel 3a at half the price.