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Upgrade to OP3 now or wait for the next nexus?

Im in sort of a mid life crisis. I currently own a Nexus 6 but I want a more beefy phone. The N6 is great and all but its starting to lag, battery is degrading, and the front camera sucks. I really like the nexus line and I have never owned a OP device. From the rumors im seeing the next nexus should be pretty damn good, so to all of you who own the OP3, are you happy with the purchase? Would you recommend buying it or should I just wait? Thanks!

I just got the OP3 and I was in the same dilemma as you. I like the nexus phones as the are pure android and will always get the security updates asap. But for me the current 6P is too big of a phone and has already been out for what, 9 months? You have to figure that going on past performance, the next generation Nexus phone won't be announced until Sept and will not be available until Oct. I didn't want to wait 4 months. Plus, the price is almost certainly going to be a lot more that $399. Having had the OP3 for a week, I know I made the right decision.

No mistake about it, if you buy the OnePlus 3 then you will be buying a premium phone. From the build to the cases, it's top notch.
Don't think that the lower price means a compromise. It's sleek, powerful and most importantly the OS is stable and well supported by the company. No bloatware..

When Nexus comes out you will be waiting for next Galaxy
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I love Nexus but...
OnePlus really has done it with the OP3. It really could be the best damn phone ever! Build, OS and dev support is up there with Nexus and I honestly would say I like the OP3 way better than my wife's S7. Honestly. I love it. I have owned Samsung's, nexus and OPO, OP2 and now OP3 and this is by far the best of them all. And the cherry on top for me is OFFICIAL Slimrom support on the way.
Oh, and dash charge.. how the hell did I ever live with out it???

well I sold my 6p for this baby then will probably get the next nexus or whatever google throws at us. depending if it's worth it tho

OP3 vs Pixel XL

Well Google released very expensive Pixel and Pixel XL phones. Is it any better than our OP3.
I feel its no better because:
- bigger chin.
- expensive
- only on screen button which reduces real estate.
- dash charging will be faster
- May be better screen to body ratio
Advantages of Pixel.
- latest Android
- may be faster, though OP3 is fine too
- bigger battery, may be bit more screen on time.
But all that worth the massive price tag. Most of cant get it on contract as well.

i agree with the chins. looks so darn ugly, reminds me of iphone 4. to be honest i dont see the pixel phone being a huge success mainly because of the price, atleast in india its priced at 57000 (856 usd) for the entry level 5 inch variant. at this price people here would prefer an iphone 7 or any other flagships. and if htc is going to honour warranties here in india, google is screwed as htc's service is pathetic.

Back in old days nexus used to be best phone for the price. Now its so expensive. I would not get it. Ill stay with oneplus or xiaomi. Both giving high end phones with price under 450$ ... I cannot wait next xiaomi 5.7" curved 2k 821dragon with 4000mha battery ...
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The only "real" advantage from what I can see is the unlimited photo backup service and latest and greatest Android. Probably that camera and battery too. These however, doesn't equal to a worthy upgrade from the OnePlus 3, I'm better off waiting for another year for another phone since the upgrade just doesn't worth the price tag to me.

bonham1988 said:
i agree with the chins. looks so darn ugly, reminds me of iphone 4. to be honest i dont see the pixel phone being a huge success mainly because of the price, atleast in india its priced at 57000 (856 usd) for the entry level 5 inch variant. at this price people here would prefer an iphone 7 or any other flagships. and if htc is going to honour warranties here in india, google is screwed as htc's service is pathetic.
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Chin needed to be less, even by force, price guarantee failure, or may be in future they will reduce the price. Otherwise likes of OP3 and others will eat it. They are forcing users not to buy it somehow.

lummujaj said:
Back in old days nexus used to be best phone for the price. Now its so expensive. I would not get it. Ill stay with oneplus or xiaomi. Both giving high end phones with price under 450$ ... I cannot wait next xiaomi 5.7" curved 2k 821dragon with 4000mha battery ...
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What are the benefits of curved screen though?

F4uzan said:
The only "real" advantage from what I can see is the unlimited photo backup service and latest and greatest Android. Probably that camera and battery too. These however, doesn't equal to a worthy upgrade from the OnePlus 3, I'm better off waiting for another year for another phone since the upgrade just doesn't worth the price tag to me.
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Slight better camera or battery improvement is fair enough. But not for massive price. Unlimited photo back up is good. But there are many people who don't back up photos that way. And that much.

usmanxhmed said:
What are the benefits of curved screen though?
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That it shatters when you drop it.

Demian3112 said:
That it shatters when you drop it.
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Well loss of usable or visible screen, shattering by slighting hitting phone on side bezels, accidental touches, tougher to hold phones, failure to apply screen protector are fee more benefits as well.

I was on the fence as I recently sold my Nexus 6 and am now using my wife's old Moto X (2013). I waited until yesterday to make a decision on what to get. Well, I quickly realized I shouldn't have waited to get the OP3. I was a OPO owner, sold it to get the Shamu - which I honestly regretted from the get go, the Nexus 6 had performance issues.
Nexus phones were always historically good overall, but no matter if they launched at a high retail price or inexpensive, in the end the hardware ALWAYS disappointed one way or another. Perhaps this time they may have finally gotten it right in terms of hardware, but I think this time they royally screwed up everything else:
-Google Assistant (and other features) are Pixel only features, some may not even get to the Nexus line at all (to me the biggest mistake they may ever make)
-Support for 2 years of updates - this has become probably the biggest complaint, and for good reason. My iPad 2 still gets updates, even if not to iOS 10. Incredible issue Google needs to address
-Nexus line won't get 7.1 until 2017 (beta will be released by the end of the year?) Seriously WTF is wrong with Google? This is beyond messed up
Android's biggest issue is fragmentation, which leads to OS update inconsistencies, security vulnerabilities and overall mismatched UX - yet their solution is to make all that worse with one product line. I don't get it, I just don't get it. If it weren't for the OnePlus 3 I'd be an iPhone owner right now, and that frightens me.

Everytime Google announced a new phone, I get super hyped but this is the first time I don't feel that way anymore. Maybe OnePlus 3 has spoiled me the elegant design and all the cool features that OxygenOs feature. The Pixel design is ugly, its fat, dem bezel and pricing is just ridiculous. They didn't even bother taking any users feedback and just slapped together a design. Oh and comparing it with other phones in the market, its no where comparable with other $900+ devices. Anyway, I am glad I jumped on to OnePlus 3 from Nexus 6p and I won't be going back to Google phones anytime soon.

lummujaj said:
Back in old days nexus used to be best phone for the price. Now its so expensive. I would not get it. Ill stay with oneplus or xiaomi. Both giving high end phones with price under 450$ ... I cannot wait next xiaomi 5.7" curved 2k 821dragon with 4000mha battery ...
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And what model will that be?
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salomaoa said:
And what model will that be?
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xiaomi mi note 2, I presume

Please dont compare with op3 the beast

tobias14 said:
xiaomi mi note 2, I presume
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I dont think so. Mi note 2 is expected to have a 3600 battery, not a 4000
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salomaoa said:
I dont think so. Mi note 2 is expected to have a 3600 battery, not a 4000
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it is still rumors, so who knows
mi5s plus on the other hand has 3800 battery and FHD screen...

lummujaj said:
Back in old days nexus used to be best phone for the price. Now its so expensive. I would not get it. Ill stay with oneplus or xiaomi. Both giving high end phones with price under 450$ ... I cannot wait next xiaomi 5.7" curved 2k 821dragon with 4000mha battery ...
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curved? lol again man I thought manufactured learned from lgs mistake. curved display are not for smartphone!!

I had been eyeing the OP3 but decided to hold out until the Pixel announcement. I think I'm going with the OP3 at this point. The Pixel XL definitely looks good. The QHD screen, direct-from-Google updates and camera are all nice upgrades over the OP3 but I don't see it being worth nearly double the price. I could buy the OP3 now and the OP4 next year and still break even with getting the Pixel XL this year.

raptir said:
I had been eyeing the OP3 but decided to hold out until the Pixel announcement. I think I'm going with the OP3 at this point. The Pixel XL definitely looks good. The QHD screen, direct-from-Google updates and camera are all nice upgrades over the OP3 but I don't see it being worth nearly double the price. I could buy the OP3 now and the OP4 next year and still break even with getting the Pixel XL this year.
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Exactly my point! plus I think the phone design is ugly... and all its features will be coming to us eventually, with ports etc.

I was waiting for pixel xl until the leaks came out.. Worst off screen to size ratio made me ordered the one plus 3.
Now with the affirmation of the price, I am glad that I made the switch. May buy a pixel xl if oneplus 4 disappoints or xl prices drop to 499 usd?

Nexus 5x replacement

Given the bootloop issue, what phone are people moving to?
Really liked this phone but with LG being unable to fix this reliably ...
Some requirements:
- No phones from LG, HTC or Motorola (gotten burned once or twice by each one of these - NEVER AGAIN!)
- Phone size should be the same as Nexus 5x or smaller
- Camera needs to be as good or better
- Fingerprint reader and USB-C
- VoLTE on T-Mobile Band 12

I'm really glad someone asked this because I am going through it too with my 5x. What do you guys think about the OnePlus 3T? Honestly, I have own every Nexus model,LG made the 4,5,&5x and those were always my work horses (flashaholic over here) and never had ANY trouble until the 5x.Now the Motorola Nexus 6,yeah they burnt my a** good.My Nexus 6p? FUGHETTABOUTIT!! You can add the F**KN to the front of that.It pulled this same crap months ago,now I have a great paperweight.Right Now it's a debate between the 3T and waiting for the OnePlus 5. I'm open to suggestions folks,if you know a better option, Please chime in!!!!

StakMak99 said:
I'm really glad someone asked this because I am going through it too with my 5x. What do you guys think about the OnePlus 3T? Honestly, I have own every Nexus model,LG made the 4,5,&5x and those were always my work horses (flashaholic over here) and never had ANY trouble until the 5x.Now the Motorola Nexus 6,yeah they burnt my a** good.My Nexus 6p? FUGHETTABOUTIT!! You can add the F**KN to the front of that.It pulled this same crap months ago,now I have a great paperweight.Right Now it's a debate between the 3T and waiting for the OnePlus 5. I'm open to suggestions folks,if you know a better option, Please chime in!!!!
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OnePlus 3T is too much of a f'ing brick. Way too large for a phone.
I would probably go for the OnePlus X but it's not sold anywhere.
I would go for the Xperia X Compact (23MP camera! and nice size!) but no official Lineago OS support, so sadly a no.
I should clarify that I also require LTE bands 4, 12 (T-Mobile) and maybe even 17 (at&t) ...

You know after looking around the choices if you want good support by aftermarket ROMs and Lineage is either something like the OnePlus or the Honor 5X. (The 6X and the 8 still have some issues in development of custom roms, but the 8 is further along than the 6X). Or spend big bucks and get one of the mainstream Samsung S# devices...
I just bought one of the Honor 5Xs for my wife actually and just went through unlocking the bootloader, and installing Lineage. I must say Im impressed with, for $150 phone its not that far from or Nexus 5X. When I get back home (traveling for work right now) I want to load some games to it and see how it does. For basic tasks it seems great. Battery life has been great for her so far, and build quality is good. Most of important, official Lineage support. So while the specs being a little behind the our 5X had me a little worried, once I had in my hands I was pleasantly surprised. For the price, no complaints.

I feel ya, same here as far as the T-Mobile and AT&T LTE. How about swappa.com on finding a OnePlus X

andTab said:
Given the bootloop issue, what phone are people moving to?
Really liked this phone but with LG being unable to fix this reliably ...
Some requirements:
- No phones from LG, HTC or Motorola (gotten burned once or twice by each one of these - NEVER AGAIN!)
- Phone size should be the same as Nexus 5x or smaller
- Camera needs to be as good or better
- Fingerprint reader and USB-C
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Yeah, and no Samsung or Iphone, no Huawei, Xi or ZTE either i'd imagine as they have all had problems worse or similar.
There will be problems with phones as long as new tech is pushed out faster than the tech is ready. I'd go with a Pixel phone which is in essence a HTC device which you apparently don't like.
So, Nokia 3310? It won't fail you.

Honor 8?

Pixel. I really don't like the price tag (actually I hate the idea of a >$500 phone) but after years of rooting and ROMing I have gone hard all the way to the other side. I like the "Google" android experience, being able to easily take updates (since not rooted / unlocked bl), getting regular monthly updates and using Android Pay without hassle. The only thing I miss is Viper4Android. I really wish Google would pay some attention to audio and put in some better processing options.

adobeman said:
Pixel. I really don't like the price tag (actually I hate the idea of a >$500 phone) but after years of rooting and ROMing I have gone hard all the way to the other side. I like the "Google" android experience, being able to easily take updates (since not rooted / unlocked bl), getting regular monthly updates and using Android Pay without hassle. The only thing I miss is Viper4Android. I really wish Google would pay some attention to audio and put in some better processing options.
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Definitely not. First, reviews for the phone are actually pretty bad.
Second, after Google selling you a Nexus 5x and then ditching you over to LG with this issue, you really would give them your money again? Fool me once, ... I guess you can be fooled at least 3-5 times.

andTab said:
Definitely not. First, reviews for the phone are actually pretty bad.
Second, after Google selling you a Nexus 5x and then ditching you over to LG with this issue, you really would give them your money again? Fool me once, ... I guess you can be fooled at least 3-5 times.
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Nope. I know all about the boot loops. No issues whatsoever with my 5x. Best value in a phone ever for me @ $249. And from what I've read those that bought from Google store, as I did, aren't getting ditched to LG for support. Also seen plenty of happy Pixel users too. If I still wanted to root/ROM there would be more options fore sure but I don't and I no longer can stand any other phones with their F-ed up UI, bloat and never having updates. As a Fi user I also couldn't be happier never ever having to deal with a major carrier again. Yeah, sure, I'm pissed at Google for abandoning the idea of disruptively affordable devices in the US but I'd still rather deal with them than a carrier, OEM or other reseller. Not fooled even once.
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Great. You also know that you do have the bootloop issue ... it just hasn't happened yet. It's a manufacturing defect so it is a WHEN not an IF.
Second (or third?) Nexus device with a known defect (N7, N5x and I believe there was something with the N5) and each time Google passed the buck.
But sure: fanboys will always buy crap from the company they love. Just be a decent human being and don't actually talk others into believing your delusions.

andTab said:
Great. You also know that you do have the bootloop issue ... it just hasn't happened yet. It's a manufacturing defect so it is a WHEN not an IF.
Second (or third?) Nexus device with a known defect (N7, N5x and I believe there was something with the N5) and each time Google passed the buck.
But sure: fanboys will always buy crap from the company they love. Just be a decent human being and don't actually talk others into believing your delusions.
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Not sure on why you are so hell bent on thinking I'm delusional. I'm speaking only of my actual experience not others. Dollar for dollar the 5X is the best I've had. I'm very aware of the boot loop issue and acknowledge it's real. I'm not convinced that it's a manufacturing defect in all 5X phones ever made though. If you have some proof of that I really would be interested in it. Really, I would. Not because I dispute what you say but because I just havn't seen any proof that it's every phone.
Truth is even if I do get the loop I only spent $250 for the thing. I've easily got my money's worth out of it when compared to >$800 other options. Phones are tools not jewels. The cheaper the better. If there's another phone you know of that's not bloated, doesn't have a modded UI, get's security updates every month and get's new Android versions promptly then I'm all ears. Seriously.

If I get a refund for my bricked 5X, I think I might get a Moto X pure.
That is what I bought my wife and its pretty reliable for her (and easy to fix, as usual she hulk smashed the screen after about 3 months and I fixed it no problem)
BUT I am also very interested to see what HMD/Nokia do with their new phones. I have always been a Nokia fan. So it would be nice to get quality hardware with a widely supported OS (my brain thinks back to my old 8800 with Symbian S40)

andTab said:
Great. You also know that you do have the bootloop issue ... it just hasn't happened yet. It's a manufacturing defect so it is a WHEN not an IF.
Second (or third?) Nexus device with a known defect (N7, N5x and I believe there was something with the N5) and each time Google passed the buck.
But sure: fanboys will always buy crap from the company they love. Just be a decent human being and don't actually talk others into believing your delusions.
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Who gave the info that 100% of 5X is defected?
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Pixel is the ONLY replacement for me. But:
1) Is expensive (for a 24 months update device) and we don't know whether is gonna bootloop or not.
2) Still has the same random ****ty compass decalibration that I had with my previous Nexus and only haven't had with my current work's iPhone 5S (that works amazing in any historic centre in places with tiny labyrinth streets like Barcelona). This is the worst part of the Nexus and Pixels. And still using Google Maps. I think Compass issues are one of the Top 3 complains in the Google product forums. And they still haven't fixed it in the hardware or firmware of their products..
3) still lacking the old N5 OIS. But this is compensated with the great HDR+ that only the Nexus / Pixel have. IMO.
4) And the Pixel is still big compared to the iPhones or the old Moto X or Galaxy Nexus.
Vs iPhones this is compensated with the non-physical/virtual buttons that make the phones​ easier to be used​ with one hand all the time.
(In fact I find and iPhone 7 with that terrible home button...and some back buttons..and that landscape multitasking....as difficult as a phablet, but still is a perfect size and nice shape to use with one hand)
Now Vs the old Gnexus or Moto X...is still more difficult. I'm one handing a 6P half of my time though... But I still miss the X or Gnexus shape/size.
On the contrary I used a Z5 Compact, smaller phone, and is not more comfortable than a Nexus 5...because of the terrible rectangular shape and is slippery material. So the size of the phone is not what only matters. Material and ergonomic shape is important as well.
Extra: there is still no stock, only released in 5 countries, and I'm not that hyped after so many months since release date. Specially now that I'm got a 6P with a new battery (original Huawei was terrible messed). But still is a huge phone compared to the Pixel.
And my priority:
2 > 1 > 4 > 3
BTW: I've just bought another 5X from Amazon (used) for my GF, at less than 220€. If the Manufactured date is OCT2015 I'll instant return it. Otherwise, I'll intensively try it for 30 days, if it doesn't boot loop I'll take my chances.
For the same price I was considering a Moto G5 with 3GB of RAM (this is the best part of this device) but 16GB Internal and I don't really like the camera, at least in low light, plus the SoC is old and both phones will update to Android O.
Sent from my Nexus 6P

andTab said:
Definitely not. First, reviews for the phone are actually pretty bad.
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Most of sites giving Pixel critical reviews are just whining that Google is now charging the prices like Apple, Samsung, or LG. Otherwise, its hardware remains top notch, and the software will be always ahead of competition in terms of security updates and major releases. Some people can make the case that the Samsung Galaxy S8 is now the best Android smartphone. But I suspect that people who are used to stock and lean Android ROMs and speedy software updates would disagree with that.
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andTab said:
Great. You also know that you do have the bootloop issue ... it just hasn't happened yet. It's a manufacturing defect so it is a WHEN not an IF.
Second (or third?) Nexus device with a known defect (N7, N5x and I believe there was something with the N5) and each time Google passed the buck.
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I think someone from Google or LG said that only 15% or so of those devices were affected with the bootloop problem.
The question is though, whom exactly can you trust to make a quality smartphone when the giants like Samsung and LG have been caught with their pants down a few times? You can't trust anyone any more. That's why I personally like the idea of buying a 300USD smartphone, like a Moto G5 Plus (4GB) or a Huawei Honor 8 (when they regularly go on sale). If it bootloops or explodes, it's not a huge loss. If it does not break, then you will end up with a whole lot of spare smartphones after a couple of years.

el_mariachi_4 said:
If I get a refund for my bricked 5X, I think I might get a Moto X pure.
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Moto X Pure is a good value, but I think the new Moto G5 Plus (4G RAM version) has surpassed it. The problem with Moto X Pure is that Nougat is the last Android update it will ever receive (while Moto G5 Plus was launched with Nougat) and there is no fingerprint sensor. Otherwise, the big and accurate screen as well as stereo speakers still make MXP a compelling phone for a whole lot of people.

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The question is though, whom exactly can you trust to make a quality smartphone when the giants like Samsung and LG have been caught with their pants down a few times? You can't trust anyone any more. That's why I personally like the idea of buying a 300USD smartphone, like a Moto G5 Plus (4GB) or a Huawei Honor 8 (when they regularly go on sale). If it bootloops or explodes, it's not a huge loss. If it does not break, then you will end up with a whole lot of spare smartphones after a couple of years.
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Agree that those aren't bad phones but their size is just a huge turnoff.
Price wise they are about in the right spot: $200 - $400 should be the range for a phone that is better than the N5x at this point.
Like I said in my original post - the requirements for a proper Nexus 5x replacement:
- No phones from LG, HTC or Motorola (gotten burned once or twice by each one of these - NEVER AGAIN!)
- Phone size should be the same as Nexus 5x or smaller (ideally probably 4.5 - 5.0" screen with a high screen to body ratio)
- Camera needs to be as good or better as N5x
- Fingerprint reader and USB-C
- VoLTE on T-Mobile Band 12

andTab said:
Agree that those aren't bad phones but their size is just a huge turnoff.
Price wise they are about in the right spot: $200 - $400 should be the range for a phone that is better than the N5x at this point.
Like I said in my original post - the requirements for a proper Nexus 5x replacement:
- No phones from LG, HTC or Motorola (gotten burned once or twice by each one of these - NEVER AGAIN!)
- Phone size should be the same as Nexus 5x or smaller (ideally probably 4.5 - 5.0" screen with a high screen to body ratio)
- Camera needs to be as good or better as N5x
- Fingerprint reader and USB-C
- VoLTE on T-Mobile Band 12
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Seems that there is no such thing...

shut_down said:
Seems that there is no such thing...
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Lenovo Zuk Z2? It's on sale all the time as well and can be had for as low as 170 USD.
http://gsmarena.com/lenovo_zuk_z2-8125.php
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Anyone thinking of the V30 instead of the pixel 2XL ??

I’m in a bit of a conundrum I’m split 60-40 pixel in favor over the V30 but there are some cool features on the V30 and the now availability that’s tempting. What are you guys thinking ?

Well I just got off the phone with Verizon and they're going to be shipping the phone soon is what I'm being told my order shipment should be here by the 19th of October. My original date was the 25th of October.
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Ahh well that changes things! I hope the google pre orders are like that as well !

I will say the V30 is still tempting I mean I guess I will see how I feel about the Pixel within the 15 days

LG V30 gets smoked by the Note8 in a recent speed test comparison. Hopefully the Pixel 2 does better than this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLSH74_FSNo

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LG V30 gets smoked by the Note8 in a recent speed test comparison. Hopefully the Pixel 2 does better than this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLSH74_FSNo
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Speed tests mean jack as they don’t translate to real world feel.

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LG V30 gets smoked by the Note8 in a recent speed test comparison. Hopefully the Pixel 2 does better than this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLSH74_FSNo
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yeah how often are you going to sit and load 20 apps for 2 seconds and then come back to them after you cycled through. Samsung always does and will have their lag after 2 months.

No

Decided PIxel2XL it is. Many more advantages inmo and the updates Trump not having them

Same question but looking at the two I'm 70 v30 and 30 pixel. I really want the pixel but cannot get past how ugly it is. And it not really the ugliness of the phone per se but the screen and bezels. Went to Verizon today check compare back to back really love pure Google but bit is the LG more pleasant to look at.

i considered many phones this year
but the only device i ordered as soon as it announced is the pixel
why ?
simply updates
other devices are great but i know for a fact that most of them will not get updated
and even the one that does will take a very long time

Totally hung up on this one.
- I love the LG V30's design, feature set and size. The UI does not look so bad either.
- I also love pure Android and the fresh software updates that come from Google has always been my path since Samsung Nexus.
The $400 P-XL buy-back that Google offers is tempting and it puts the P2-XL in the same price range as the LG V30.
My current Pixel XL is 2 months old. It was a extended warranty replacement from my dying N6P.
Hmm...
Could I get $350-400 on Swappa for my P-XL then buy the LG V30? That would be awesome....
Or, don't do Swappa and buy P2-XL with the $400 buy-back?
Khan!!!!!!!

johninsf said:
Totally hung up on this one.
- I love the LG V30's design, feature set and size. The UI does not look so bad either.
- I also love pure Android and the fresh software updates that come from Google has always been my path since Samsung Nexus.
The $400 P-XL buy-back that Google offers is tempting and it puts the P2-XL in the same price range as the LG V30.
My current Pixel XL is 2 months old. It was a extended warranty replacement from my dying N6P.
Hmm...
Could I get $350-400 on Swappa for my P-XL then buy the LG V30? That would be awesome....
Or, don't do Swappa and buy P2-XL with the $400 buy-back?
Khan!!!!!!!
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Honestly after seeing the phone this afternoon I don’t see what the people are complaining about with the bezels. Is it as small as the V30 not exactly is it big and ugly like some say not even close. I think I’m keeping my preorder of the Pixel2XL and rocking it for a few weeks but I’m probably going to end up keeping it

thisguy159 said:
Same question but looking at the two I'm 70 v30 and 30 pixel. I really want the pixel but cannot get past how ugly it is. And it not really the ugliness of the phone per se but the screen and bezels. Went to Verizon today check compare back to back really love pure Google but bit is the LG more pleasant to look at.
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I saw the exact opposite. I saw it today at Verizon and it put me at ease the bezels are fine. Are they as small as the V30 no but I rather have the speakers and software updates and better camera so pixel wins

I agree updates are a big plus but ever since 6.0 I feel like I can be content with one os. Will wait another month see if op 5t comes out or lg30 goes on sale since it's not selling.

Well that’s cool. You have the time to wait. I ordered my phone and it’s coming next week so I’m gonna ride it for a while. I’m sure I will like it. If not love it. At least till next year

Yeah i think once the "newness" of the v30 wears off you're gonna wish you had the Pixel. Sure the V30 looks good but you know the pixel is gonna be a beast 6 months to a year from now. I've never had an LG phone so dunno if they slow down like the Samsungs do

Imagine if PureNexus drops for the 2 XL.

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Imagine if PureNexus drops for the 2 XL.
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If?

Lawlrus said:
If?
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True lol
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Should I buy this or something newer

It's finally upgrade time, coming from a Lumia 930 after my OnePlus 3 have up the ghost after an impact.
Been looking at options and Pixel 2 XL is coming up at £31 a month with no upfront cost (for comparison Pixel 3 XL is around £60 per month)
Am I going to regret getting this or is it still a worthy upgrade today and for the next 2 years?
Are the reported issues actually issues or just people looking for problems?
Thank you for your time

It's still a great device with a few years of updates to come... Price is Right compared to 2018 flagships...

I had a note 8 for almost a year and a xiaomi mi 8. The Samsung was awesome and the s pen was useful but the pixel experience is so much better. Speed differences are not huge, I don't play too many games so it's fast enough for my needs.
The camera is awesome, no contest compared to current phones tbh and with only one lens.
The phone looks great (I have panda white) and I'd rather have this pixel instead of the latest as I'm fed up of all glass phones.

If you like ugly notches and having to pay $80 for a wireless charger to get full speed wireless charging because Google locked down the phone to use only their wireless charger, get the Pixel 3. Otherwise, get the Pixel 2.
UPDATE: Google backpedaled and said it will start certifying 3rd party wireless chargers. Those that are certified will be able to charge the phone at full speed. Still seems kind of stupid to me considering neither Apple nor Samsung have any such requirement for their wireless chargers, but it's not as dumb as locking them all out.

Still an awesome device by today's standards. Still super fast, will be updated for a while by Google, it will officially get most of the new Pixel 3 features, and unofficially the other features (thanks XDA).
Get it!

I just bought it after the pixel3 release. Couldn't be happier

Buy it. There's no way the 3 is worth another thirty quid a month, especially as many of the upgrades will eventually work on the 2XL. Mine's a year old (Panda white) and it's running like a dream. Best phone I've ever had.

I can see it running fine for the next two years. Unless apps really start increasing their demands on RAM and processor by a lot, it'll age fine.
That being said, I still go with getting a phone within 6 months of release to get the most of it in the long run. Only benefit of anything longer is price being lower so if you can get a great deal for a Pixel 2 XL, then sure go for it.
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I'd look at the OnePlus 6T or possibly even the LG V40. The Pixel 2 XL is great, don't get me wrong, but the 2018 flagships are pulling ahead. I have a feeling with Android 10, the bar will be raised for specs needed for a smooth experience. If you don't run a lot of apps at once and aren't gaming, the Pixel 2 XL might be fine, but as software and apps get more advanced it may start to feel laggy over time.

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I'd look at the OnePlus 6T or possibly even the LG V40. The Pixel 2 XL is great, don't get me wrong, but the 2018 flagships are pulling ahead. I have a feeling with Android 10, the bar will be raised for specs needed for a smooth experience. If you don't run a lot of apps at once and aren't gaming, the Pixel 2 XL might be fine, but as software and apps get more advanced it may start to feel laggy over time.
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After buying an LG G5, I would recommend LG phones only to my worst enemies. The UI looks fugly and isn't as smooth as Google's, it's full of bloatware, the LG apps are worse then the original GApps they replace, updates don't arrive each month and new Android releases take an eternity. Hell, the G5 got Android 8 only recently! On top the developer support gets worse and worse with each new model (if you can unlock the bootlaoder at all), so you hardly can escape LG's version of software hell on earth.
The OnePlus 6T is most likely miles ahead, but it's made of glass. And you need forked versions of the Google camera to shoot nice pictures.
My Pixel 2 XL has been running smooth over the last year, I haven't regretted that I bought it for one second, despite its steep price.
So if you don't want to spend the money for the new version, get a Pixel 2 XL. Or get a OnePlus 6T if you must have more RAM. But don't buy the LG V40, it may seem fine at first, but you'll regret it later on.

Everything up to the G5 and V20 was unreliable, though I've seen good things about the V30 and presumably the V40 as well. The Pixel 2 XL being made by LG shares a great deal in common. That said, it still does appear the OnePlus 6T is the best value for one's money. The aggressive sales on the V40 are tempting too ($200 off).

I just bought a pixel 2xl yesterday and quite frankly I saw no particular reason to go the 3xl route at this point in time. This phone is a beast.

^ yes, it's still a badboy! Welcome aboard

I would recommend a newer handset especially if you can wait for the OP6T. I'm moving from.my Pixel 2 XL to the Mate 20 Pro.

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I would recommend a newer handset especially if you can wait for the OP6T. I'm moving from.my Pixel 2 XL to the Mate 20 Pro.
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Just to have something newer, shinier or are there real reasons? I see no point except the slight blue tint of the display to upgrade this fantastic device.
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Everything up to the G5 and V20 was unreliable, though I've seen good things about the V30 and presumably the V40 as well. The Pixel 2 XL being made by LG shares a great deal in common. That said, it still does appear the OnePlus 6T is the best value for one's money. The aggressive sales on the V40 are tempting too ($200 off).
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uhm nope https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/14/lg-v40-review-best-lgs-ever-built-still-isnt-quite-enough/

Thank you for all the replies, made my purchase and couldn't be more pleased with it.
Any hints and tips on changes to make straight away?

mb76 said:
Thank you for all the replies, made my purchase and couldn't be more pleased with it.
Any hints and tips on changes to make straight away?
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https://www.androidcentral.com/google-pixel-2-first-things
You got a case right? Definitely protect it.
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What if you can score one for $300 - $400. Seems like would be a good pick up at that price point even if you only use it for a year.
Rick

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What if you can score one for $300 - $400. Seems like would be a good pick up at that price point even if you only use it for a year.
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Well the OP got it for a monthly $39.76/month with no up front cost. Pricey but it's a lot less than the Pixel 3 XL for $76.96/month. Either way, both are way more than what we pay in the US
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Yep. It's a gooder. I came from a 2016 Moto z griffin with a battery mod and this gets better battery life.
Still at 78% by the time I get home from work.