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First, quick intro - finally making the move to android from iOS after years of procrastinating. My galaxy note 2 arrives Wednesday eve and I couldnt be more excited. I purchased the n7100, unlocked international version.
(1) To update to 4.1.2 when it arrives - is this automatic or is there something I need to do to get it right away?
(2) I saw two ways to make any app multi-window functional. The first is by modifying it in windows, the second is through an app on the phone itself. It is my understanding that for the latter, i need to be rooted. Is that the case for the windows application too?
(3) I dont want to install a custom rom just yet because i want to tinker with s-note and the s-pen apps. However, regarding rooting - is there any reason not to root?
Thanks
emanuelme said:
First, quick intro - finally making the move to android from iOS after years of procrastinating. My galaxy note 2 arrives Wednesday eve and I couldnt be more excited. I purchased the n7100, unlocked international version.
(1) To update to 4.1.2 when it arrives - is this automatic or is there something I need to do to get it right away?
(2) I saw two ways to make any app multi-window functional. The first is by modifying it in windows, the second is through an app on the phone itself. It is my understanding that for the latter, i need to be rooted. Is that the case for the windows application too?
(3) I dont want to install a custom rom just yet because i want to tinker with s-note and the s-pen apps. However, regarding rooting - is there any reason not to root?
Thanks
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Hi! Let's see if I can help:
It's automatic. Your phone should check for updates automatically every few days or week or something like that. If you plug it into your computer and open KIES it'll check for the update right away every time you plug it in. If not, and you want the OTA update, you can go to the settings and about your phone and then updates and you can check manually, but that's if you want to check manually! Otherwise, you'll get a notification eventually
To do that, you're going to need to root your device either way. Both methods require root from what I understood. You're changing a core apk in your phone.
Rooting is up to you. A lot of people root, and a lot of others don't. I believe MOST people ORIGINALLY Rooted to get more control and better functionality over their device. I'm not sure this is the case with the Note 2. A lot of people say that the Stock ROM is fantastic and you don't get a lot more by changing roms, but as for rooting you get more access over apps. I came from iOS years ago (from the iPhone 4) and I have rooted only once, because I think Samsung and Android gives you MILES more opportunities over iOS. For me, Android is "prerooted" in nature in comparison to iOS. I'd say, FIRST check out the device and see if you can do everything you want without rooting. I do everything I want without being rooted. I'm also not the epitome of a typical Android user. I have Folder Sync to sync all my folders across Dropbox and SugarSync. I have apps running in the background, and I edit pictures like a pro! I multi-task a million times better than iOS!!!! So it really depends on you. Try out Android, maybe without rooting it's enough! Maybe it isn't Then you root
Hope I've helped!
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Hi! Let's see if I can help:
It's automatic. Your phone should check for updates automatically every few days or week or something like that. If you plug it into your computer and open KIES it'll check for the update right away every time you plug it in. If not, and you want the OTA update, you can go to the settings and about your phone and then updates and you can check manually, but that's if you want to check manually! Otherwise, you'll get a notification eventually
To do that, you're going to need to root your device either way. Both methods require root from what I understood. You're changing a core apk in your phone.
Rooting is up to you. A lot of people root, and a lot of others don't. I believe MOST people ORIGINALLY Rooted to get more control and better functionality over their device. I'm not sure this is the case with the Note 2. A lot of people say that the Stock ROM is fantastic and you don't get a lot more by changing roms, but as for rooting you get more access over apps. I came from iOS years ago (from the iPhone 4) and I have rooted only once, because I think Samsung and Android gives you MILES more opportunities over iOS. For me, Android is "prerooted" in nature in comparison to iOS. I'd say, FIRST check out the device and see if you can do everything you want without rooting. I do everything I want without being rooted. I'm also not the epitome of a typical Android user. I have Folder Sync to sync all my folders across Dropbox and SugarSync. I have apps running in the background, and I edit pictures like a pro! I multi-task a million times better than iOS!!!! So it really depends on you. Try out Android, maybe without rooting it's enough! Maybe it isn't Then you root
Hope I've helped!
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Thanks and you certainly did help... There is one app in particular and im not sure it supports multiwindow (withings baby monitor) - I will know in a few days. If it doesnt, it would be great to have this app with multi-window support and I would root in order to do this... I guess we can wait and see... Thanks for your response.
emanuelme said:
Thanks and you certainly did help... There is one app in particular and im not sure it supports multiwindow (withings baby monitor) - I will know in a few days. If it doesnt, it would be great to have this app with multi-window support and I would root in order to do this... I guess we can wait and see... Thanks for your response.
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No problem. As from seeing the apps I have installed almost no apps support the multi window feature that aren't huge. Facebook twitter chrome plus a lot of the Samsung apps like gallery and video, messaging and snote Google Talk and youtube as well. For more apps: hack!
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No problem. As from seeing the apps I have installed almost no apps support the multi window feature that aren't huge. Facebook twitter chrome plus a lot of the Samsung apps like gallery and video, messaging and snote Google Talk and youtube as well. For more apps: hack!
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So do I need to hack or theroetically, if someone modified the app for me, could i then put it on the sd card and install it or would i need to be rooted first?
Great answer zkyevolved!
Other apps that work uith multi-window are popping up every week. Greader Pro now works as does lecturenotes and solid explorer.
Emanuelme. If you want the most fluid multi-tasking experience download SwipePad with the (paid) "recent apps add-on. It will blow you away and make your old iphone friends very jealous
emanuelme said:
First, quick intro - finally making the move to android from iOS after years of procrastinating. My galaxy note 2 arrives Wednesday eve and I couldnt be more excited. I purchased the n7100, unlocked international version.
(1) To update to 4.1.2 when it arrives - is this automatic or is there something I need to do to get it right away?
(2) I saw two ways to make any app multi-window functional. The first is by modifying it in windows, the second is through an app on the phone itself. It is my understanding that for the latter, i need to be rooted. Is that the case for the windows application too?
(3) I dont want to install a custom rom just yet because i want to tinker with s-note and the s-pen apps. However, regarding rooting - is there any reason not to root?
Thanks
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Hi,
I don't know if the 4.1.2 update is being rolled out yet, but if it isn't, u can just flash it from odin, no root is required, and u can still keep your warranty.
As for the multi Window, you will need to be rooted, and preferably on a deodexed rom.
If u look in the dev section, u will see a multi Window zip file u can flash, that will give the any app multi Window.
The only reason not to root would be:
The readers hub, and the learners hub, don't work if you are rooted.
Your a noob
Rooting won't void your warranty, as u can just flash a stock rom and u will be unrooted.
I am currently working on a dual boot kernel for the note 2, so then u can have the stock rom, and a second rom, installed at the same time, and choose which to boot in to when u start the rom, but i am still finishing it ect at the moment.
Cheers
Corey
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I've been looking to upgrade from my old Toshiba thrive for quite a while now, and see the refurbished note 10.1 2014 on eBay. I've been resisting Samsung for a while now because I'm not a fan of the touchwiz and status/notification bar, but it seems like such a deal and I wonder if I could deal with it.
My question is, how close to stock Android can I get without rooting? I love the Google now launcher on my nexus 5, and would also want to get the on screen buttons some they rotate with the screen orientation and it's what I'm used to.
If I do root, I'd like to know what I'd have to do to get things like the Time Warner streaming app to work?
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I've been looking to upgrade from my old Toshiba thrive for quite a while now, and see the refurbished note 10.1 2014 on eBay. I've been resisting Samsung for a while now because I'm not a fan of the touchwiz and status/notification bar, but it seems like such a deal and I wonder if I could deal with it.
My question is, how close to stock Android can I get without rooting? I love the Google now launcher on my nexus 5, and would also want to get the on screen buttons some they rotate with the screen orientation and it's what I'm used to.
If I do root, I'd like to know what I'd have to do to get things like the Time Warner streaming app to work?
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You can use different launchers like Apex or Nova to get rid of the touchwizz interface. Notification bar is there for life but when using apps it does go away. It can be pulled down if you need to check something but is not present when using most apps.
Not sure about the time warner app as it probably doesn't work here in Oz anyway...
I don't know about what model you would get, be it 600,601 or 605 in your region but each has their own pros & cons, make sure you do a bit of research first...
I just fired up the time Warner app on my rooted thrive and it didn't give me any problems aside from telling me to turn off USB debugging.
I guess I'll still wait and see what's coming up in the next couple months.
I have a couple of quick questions about the xperia UI.
Recently, my ZL died in an accident. Due to my location, I had few replacement choices available, so I opted for a Galaxy S4. It wasn't my first choice, but it's not a bad phone.
There are a few things I miss.
First, what is that thing circled in red on the first picture called? It's a launcher of small apps that appears on the bottom panel when you open Recent Apps. Samsung doesn't have it, so I'm assuming it's an Xperia thing. I want to search for an app or a mod that can perform a similar function, but I don't know what it's called, or if there's an app that does it.
Secondly, I was really getting to like the Xperia's "Album" software. I've found gallery apps that organize in a similar way, but don't include a home screen widget that allows the user to flip through photos. Can this "Album" app be installed on the S4, if so,how, and if not, can anyone recommend a good replacement?
I don't think thats possible on a sammy phone... not unless you port the stock xperia rom to the S4... But you should head over to the s4 forum and maybe ask someone to port it for you.... only the small apps if possible! Also Samsung has their multiwindow and all... maybe use that!
You could also root your phone and use floating window from xposed!
Dr_SUSE said:
I have a couple of quick questions about the xperia UI.
Recently, my ZL died in an accident. Due to my location, I had few replacement choices available, so I opted for a Galaxy S4. It wasn't my first choice, but it's not a bad phone.
There are a few things I miss.
First, what is that thing circled in red on the first picture called? It's a launcher of small apps that appears on the bottom panel when you open Recent Apps. Samsung doesn't have it, so I'm assuming it's an Xperia thing. I want to search for an app or a mod that can perform a similar function, but I don't know what it's called, or if there's an app that does it.
Secondly, I was really getting to like the Xperia's "Album" software. I've found gallery apps that organize in a similar way, but don't include a home screen widget that allows the user to flip through photos. Can this "Album" app be installed on the S4, if so,how, and if not, can anyone recommend a good replacement?
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Well, my sister have a s4, and somehow i didn't like it...
And samsung doesn't have a small apps, and also , you can tweak your Xperia ZL using Xposed Modules (Need root but not custom rom)...
Like mine, you can customize the status bar icon, battery icon, nav bar, screen off animation, and many more!
Feel free to ask, bbm or pm me if you have a question
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Well, my sister have a s4, and somehow i didn't like it...
And samsung doesn't have a small apps, and also , you can tweak your Xperia ZL using Xposed Modules (Need root but not custom rom)...
Like mine, you can customize the status bar icon, battery icon, nav bar, screen off animation, and many more!
Feel free to ask, bbm or pm me if you have a question
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You can tweek any phone with Xposed, but why are you telling him that? didn't you read his post? He states that his ZL died and the S4 is a replacement, he's asking if it's possible to make his S4 to be closer to the ZL.
Now to the topic at hand, from what I heard it's a popular practice to port Sony apps to all Xperia phones as well as other phones. So if you go to the S4 forums you should be able to find the small apps as well as the album app, along with instructions on how to install them correctly. Good luck man, and don't be sad, the S4 is a bit better than the ZL anyway.
Dead Metal said:
You can tweek any phone with Xposed, but why are you telling him that? didn't you read his post? He states that his ZL died and the S4 is a replacement, he's asking if it's possible to make his S4 to be closer to the ZL.
Now to the topic at hand, from what I heard it's a popular practice to port Sony apps to all Xperia phones as well as other phones. So if you go to the S4 forums you should be able to find the small apps as well as the album app, along with instructions on how to install them correctly. Good luck man, and don't be sad, the S4 is a bit better than the ZL anyway.
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I found a bundle of Xperia apps and flashed them, and I discovered the apps couldn't start without Xperia Home enabled and running. Needless to say, it didn't run well competing with Samsung's Touchwiz. Touchwiz can't be stopped or shut down. Most of the Xperia stuff didn't last a reboot. I couldn't get Walkman to run at all.
S4 may be a slightly better platform. It's got a better camera, for one. However, the better user experience goes to Xperia. Walkman's a better music app in every way that's important. Small apps are useful, especially screenshot for me. Album widget is irreplaceable. Now I've got 2 competing music apps, Adapt sound which breaks everything, 2 competing alarm clocks, and of course the one I don't want is the one I can't stop...
It was easy to root,though, to its credit.
Might just get a Z2 and give this one to my wife. Are those easy to root? Z2's, I mean?
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I found a bundle of Xperia apps and flashed them, and I discovered the apps couldn't start without Xperia Home enabled and running. Needless to say, it didn't run well competing with Samsung's Touchwiz. Touchwiz can't be stopped or shut down. Most of the Xperia stuff didn't last a reboot. I couldn't get Walkman to run at all.
S4 may be a slightly better platform. It's got a better camera, for one. However, the better user experience goes to Xperia. Walkman's a better music app in every way that's important. Small apps are useful, especially screenshot for me. Album widget is irreplaceable. Now I've got 2 competing music apps, Adapt sound which breaks everything, 2 competing alarm clocks, and of course the one I don't want is the one I can't stop...
It was easy to root,though, to its credit.
Might just get a Z2 and give this one to my wife. Are those easy to root? Z2's, I mean?
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Oh, that's a shame and kinda weird. I mean porting should imply that they have been modified to actually run on the device.
The Z2 is easy to root with towelroot or the Z2 root deamon we also used to root our ZL. Then again, everything is easy to root with towelroot.
The best music app is PowerAmp, Walkman kinda sucks when compared to that.
Here are the S4 forums, pick which model you have and see if they have properly ported Xperia apps.
So i'm trying to figure out what would work the best for my 10.5 tablet,
Main thing's i'm wanting is it Rooted, Basic enough design that work's pretty good, and has the Samsung app, not sure if i can get this off google play or not but. will obviously find that out soon. lol
but yeah, if anyone can give me their suggestion's for what i'm after (Might be looking for better performance as well) that would be awesome.
Damob99 said:
So i'm trying to figure out what would work the best for my 10.5 tablet,
Main thing's i'm wanting is it Rooted, Basic enough design that work's pretty good, and has the Samsung app, not sure if i can get this off google play or not but. will obviously find that out soon. lol
but yeah, if anyone can give me their suggestion's for what i'm after (Might be looking for better performance as well) that would be awesome.
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I think you would get a more valuable response if you stated why you want root. I've just upgraded to a Tab S from a rooted Nexus 10 and so far have not found a "must have" reason to root and loose my warranty. That does not mean I'll never root though. I've already replaced the launcher with Nova launcher and changed the icons with an icon pack but neither required root. The one root apps I miss are Viper4Android and GMD Gestures but Nova Launcher provides an acceptable alternative to GMD for now.
So what do you require root for?
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Im mainly wanting it for a couple of apps that use it, one for modding a game, another for moving apps to sd, full files and all not just a 16th of the app. Just tried an app called kingroot but unfortunately it didnt work.
Damob99 said:
Im mainly wanting it for a couple of apps that use it, one for modding a game, another for moving apps to sd, full files and all not just a 16th of the app. Just tried an app called kingroot but unfortunately it didnt work.
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What model tab s do you have? Kingroot V4 rooted my kitkat t805 just fine. Doesnt work on lollipop though.
Sadly did it on my normal tablet before having any root access what's so ever without installing another rom on it. lol. wanted to test it to see if it would work, sadly it didn'. i have a Galaxy Tab S SM-T805Y.. it's the 10.5 samsung tablet.
Damob99 said:
Sadly did it on my normal tablet before having any root access what's so ever without installing another rom on it. lol. wanted to test it to see if it would work, sadly it didn'. i have a Galaxy Tab S SM-T805Y.. it's the 10.5 samsung tablet.
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Sometimes it takes more than once. Did you let it reboot and then continue?
Yes and unfortunately it didn't want to work.
Hi,
I would like to suggest to our moderators or to our app developers if they can tweak the Xperia Keyboard or Google Keyboard to disable the fullscreen feature whenever you are on landscape mode (like playing games, watching movies etc.).
The reason for this request is the fullscreen mode on landscape is quite annoying since it covers the entire screen.
Actually, I found a good solution for this but by using an Xposed module. However, I don't want to root my phone since I just bought it a month ago. I hope someone can help me do this without the need of rooting the phone. Command via ADB shell will do as well if there's a certain command for that.
I'm using Huawei P10 VTR-L29C636B162
Thanks!
Hi,
I don't have anything issue like that with Gboard. Can you post a screenshot for better understanding, what you exactly mean?
And we also need your phone model and firmware version.
I'm on VTR-L29C432B162.
As per your screenshot and with the attached image below, you will see that our keyboard on landscape mode covers the entire screen and this is not helpful when playing games, (like mobile legends). But, if our keyboard has an option to disable fullscreen on landscape, the background will still be visible.
The image that I have attached is screengrabbed from Playstore from the Xposed App/Module called 'Disable Fullscreen Keyboard'. It only mean that this can be done if our phone is rooted. But, my request is if we can also do this even our phone is not rooted and no need to install Xposed app or modules.
I hope our mods can modify Google Keyboard, Swift Keyboard, Swype Keyboard, Xperia Keyboard(ported) disabling the fullscreen feature of the keyboards.
I hope I made it clear.
Up. I hope someone can fix this.
yeah this feature is so annoying,full screen in landscape mode were disabled when i was on kitkat. now its back again on gboard 2017 for nougat and beyond. at least on certain apps or games only
It would be interesting if it's even possible with root...this is so annoying. I switched from iOS and thought Android is a bit further but after more than a year on Huawei I have to say, that many things are far behind a jailbroken iOS.
bauer18 said:
As per your screenshot and with the attached image below, you will see that our keyboard on landscape mode covers the entire screen and this is not helpful when playing games, (like mobile legends).
The image that I have attached is screengrabbed from Playstore from the Xposed App/Module called 'Disable Fullscreen Keyboard'. It only mean that this can be done if our phone is rooted. But, my request is if we can also do this even our phone is not rooted and no need to install Xposed app or modules.
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Jannomag said:
It would be interesting if it's even possible with root...this is so annoying. I switched from iOS and thought Android is a bit further but after more than a year on Huawei I have to say, that many things are far behind a jailbroken iOS.
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It is available rooted by the looks as bauer said above.
It drives me mad too. If I'm watching Netflix or something and someone messages I have to guess and hope that what I've written is correct or I have to go back out, write message, go back in, find the movie and start again, quite annoying.
Had email back again saying I should be getting my BL unlock code soon so hopefully this app still works.
gradd said:
yeah this feature is so annoying,full screen in landscape mode were disabled when i was on kitkat. now its back again on gboard 2017 for nougat and beyond. at least on certain apps or games only
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Jannomag said:
It would be interesting if it's even possible with root...this is so annoying. I switched from iOS and thought Android is a bit further but after more than a year on Huawei I have to say, that many things are far behind a jailbroken iOS.
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This is possible with xposed module called "Disable Fullscreen Keyboard". But Xposed requires Root. So far no way doing this without root access.