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The OnePlus 3 has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

The display is definitely better than what weve had on the previous OnePlus phones. I did find the color saturation a bit weird coming from the LCD of the OnePlus One to the OAMOLED of the OP3, but it's a pretty beautiful display to look at.

I haven't been able to compare with another AMOLED screen, but compared to my LG G3 at full brightness, the OnePlus 3 screen colours doesn't seem as vibrant as an AMOLED screen should be. One other thing is that I've been so used to QHD on the G3, I can really notice the drop back to HD. Nonetheless, the OnePlus 3 is bang for buck no matter which way you look at it.

I just have one word. Gorgeous.

The display is sharp enough, bright enough and the color saturation is good. And definetly better than previous OP screens

kinnyfaifai said:
I haven't been able to compare with another AMOLED screen, but compared to my LG G3 at full brightness, the OnePlus 3 screen colours doesn't seem as vibrant as an AMOLED screen should be. One other thing is that I've been so used to QHD on the G3, I can really notice the drop back to HD. Nonetheless, the OnePlus 3 is bang for buck no matter which way you look at it.
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You notice because it has PenTile arrangement, not because it's FHD.

I've gotten used to it now, the screen is still quite amazing on the OP3. Tbh, I've always found it funny how phone manufacturers are sucked into the res race given some of the drawbacks of pushing a larger amount of pixels.

I'm moving from my Moto X (2014) to OP3, and trust me the white balance is WAY off towards the blue end. I read a review which did display tests on both the AMOLEDs of X and OP3, and apart from the white balance, OP3 has a slightly better screen and/or screen calibration than the X (which is 2 years old).
Overall I still find it blue after I switch from the X, but it's a beautiful screen nonetheless.

Soumitra.5693 said:
I'm moving from my Moto X (2014) to OP3, and trust me the white balance is WAY off towards the blue end. I read a review which did display tests on both the AMOLEDs of X and OP3, and apart from the white balance, OP3 has a slightly better screen and/or screen calibration than the X (which is 2 years old).
Overall I still find it blue after I switch from the X, but it's a beautiful screen nonetheless.
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Just got mine, haven't even turned it on yet, but AFAIK (from reviews) white balance is adjustable in the settings. Play around with the slider if it looks too blueish to you.

Explorer23 said:
Just got mine, haven't even turned it on yet, but AFAIK (from reviews) white balance is adjustable in the settings. Play around with the slider if it looks too blueish to you.
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Yep, thanks! Did that but forgot to mention. Though be careful when you change the slider, there's no reset option in case you want it as it came (not a biggie but a reset option would've been helpful).
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Text on my phone looks blurry and more like a 720p screen, particularly visible in landscape.
I've applied for a replacement. Let me see how that turns out to be.

edios123 said:
Text on my phone looks blurry and more like a 720p screen, particularly visible in landscape.
I've applied for a replacement. Let me see how that turns out to be.
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That's going to be the downfall of pentile. (The pixel arrangement of the screen) I don't think you have a bad display.
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robstunner said:
That's going to be the downfall of pentile. (The pixel arrangement of the screen) I don't think you have a bad display.
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That's a bummer. Didn't know it'd turn out this bad.
I really hope I had a defective piece though. Text looks really bad on it. It ruins the experience of using a premium phone.
Guess I'm really bothered by it because my previous phones were the 6P and Note 4 and I use a retina MacBook Pro; all three had/have excellent displays).

I was very worried about the display when I have heard many saying that it is not sharp due to the pentile arrangement.
Just got mine few hours ago, and here is my personal opinion:
The display looked sharp and crisp, the pentile matrix is hardly visible unless you look at the screen very closely, but under normal usage distance, the display is excellent.
It is true that true resolution on any pentile display is less than the ideal, and this artcile explains it: https://medium.com/@suyashsrijan/1080p-pentile-is-not-true-1080p-9951b9e5c2ee#.w8v3hh7vz
According to it, the effective resolution becomes 326ppi rather than 401ppi.
FYI, resolution of iphone 6s is also 326ppi.

To me the screen of OP3 is way better than the OP2. Everything just looks nice. My OP2 was calibrated with kcal and OP3 has similar calibration. Only the dark grey is a little on the blue/green side.

Disappointed with pixelation caused by the PenTile matrix. Sure, the display is great (much more vibrant and brighter than my outgoing iPhone 6 Plus) but with my perfect near vision small text and edges of icons etc all appear slightly jagged. From a normal distance it's not too bothersome but I can always see it. The 1080p RGB matrix panel on the iPhone appears instantly sharper in comparison but I still wouldn't say its a match as the colour, contrast and brightness are all far better on the OP3.

Resolution is too low for VR, but for everyday tasks is perfect.

I am hesitating to buy a 1+3 device mainly for the mixed comments about screen/display quality.
Can any owner of 1+3 post some pictures of any classical webpage (bbc, cnn, xda, ...) magnified gradually, up to the maximum (125%, 150%, ..., 300%, ..)?
Thanks

Ive been using the G3, and i dont care what anyone says, there is a huge difference between 1080 and 1440. The text looks smudged. However I cant stream Youtube nor Anime at 720p or higher anywas so it wont matter for me.
Still on the fence of buying it.

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Ive been using the G3, and i dont care what anyone says, there is a huge difference between 1080 and 1440. The text looks smudged. However I cant stream Youtube nor Anime at 720p or higher anywas so it wont matter for me.
Still on the fence of buying it.
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If you don't like it's most visible part, then why consider buying it?

Does the display suck this much?

Most people say that the oneplus 3's screen is just a piece of crap...I would have bought the axon 7 if its bootloader wasn't locked and it had a better camera. So I have the iPhone 5 and even though it's a 4-inch display it's sharp enough and you can't see any pixels,so how does the pentile screen holds up because the oneplus 3 is one hell of a phone

It's plenty sharp unless you want to use it for Virtual Reality. The OP3 actually has a higher pixel per inch count than the iPhone. The pentile matrix does make it a little less sharp, but not something you will notice in normal use. I had my Nexus 5 (2013) and OP3 side by side and I could see a difference, if I held the phone at 20 cm from my face. Anywhere further than that, not at all. Also, it uses less battery than e.g. 1440p displays, which is why the battery life on the OP3 is really good.
Finally, the sRGB mode is heaven for me. Almost perfect color calibration with amoled blacks. I'll take that trade-off for pentile everyday. And if you like high saturation, just turn sRGB off and you also get a white balance slider! The choice is yours.

m.denb said:
It's plenty sharp unless you want to use it for Virtual Reality. The OP3 actually has a higher pixel per inch count than the iPhone. The pentile matrix does make it a little less sharp, but not something you will notice in normal use. I had my Nexus 5 (2013) and OP3 side by side and I could see a difference, if I held the phone at 20 cm from my face. Anywhere further than that, not at all. Also, it uses less battery than e.g. 1440p displays, which is why the battery life on the OP3 is really good.
Finally, the sRGB mode is heaven for me. Almost perfect color calibration with amoled blacks. I'll take that trade-off for pentile everyday. And if you like high saturation, just turn sRGB off and you also get a white balance slider! The choice is yours.
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Actually I do plan on using VR but it's not that big of a deal

Depends on how much you use it I'd say. A friend of mine got the S7 edge with a VR headset. He used it twice in the first week he got it. Now it's gathering dust somewhere... It's mostly still a gimmick. But if you're really into it, YouTube is increasing its VR content and some games can be found on the play store.

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Depends on how much you use it I'd say. A friend of mine got the S7 edge with a VR headset. He used it twice in the first week he got it. Now it's gathering dust somewhere... It's mostly still a gimmick. But if you're really into it, YouTube is increasing its VR content and some games can be found on the play store.
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I care about everyday usage (being fast),normal media consumption (like watching videos or using Spotify) more than VR really and I really care about the camera

memo45 said:
Most people say that the oneplus 3's screen is just a piece of crap...I would have bought the axon 7 if its bootloader wasn't locked and it had a better camera. So I have the iPhone 5 and even though it's a 4-inch display it's sharp enough and you can't see any pixels,so how does the pentile screen holds up because the oneplus 3 is one hell of a phone
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I have s7 edge and OP 3 both.. I don't feel OP 3 has bad display! it might not be as good as S7 edge.. but definitely it's not pathetic display. It's very good display for day to day usage..

The display on the OnePlus 3 is pretty awesome, far better than on my One M9 for example. It may not be the best on the market but it surely isn't bad and it is far from sucking, lol.

At medium or high brightness with sRGB mode the display is great. Look really closely and you can see that it isn't perfectly sharp, but it is nonetheless FHD and you shouldn't be looking at your phone with a viewing distance of 5 cm anyway. Normal viewing distances are fine.
The minimum brightness is a bit problematic: if you turn it down all the way the dark colours seem to become actual black, so it becomes harder to see things.
Calling the display trash is surely an overstatement. It's viewing angles, blacks, minimum/maximum brightness, colour accuracy, resolution and pixel density are good to excellent. It's definitely not the best display you can get, but it's far from being terrible.

memo45 said:
Most people say that the oneplus 3's screen is just a piece of crap...I would have bought the axon 7 if its bootloader wasn't locked and it had a better camera. So I have the iPhone 5 and even though it's a 4-inch display it's sharp enough and you can't see any pixels,so how does the pentile screen holds up because the oneplus 3 is one hell of a phone
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The people that say the display sucks are people that don't have the phone. I have a nexus 6p and OP 3 and I couldn't tell a difference between the screen resolution of both. Not even when I'm playing game. 1080p is easily rectifiable compared to 720p, 2k is not that much from 1080p unless you're looking at small text from 3 inches.
The colors on the default mode are over saturated and are a bit over the top but majority of casual users like it more. The display on sRGB is one of the best displays on the market. It's so pleasing to the eyes, it's almost 100% accurate yet the blacks are deep. My nexus 6p has almost as good display on sRGB but it has started to suffer from screen burn because of navigation bar.

I have a OP3, LG G4, OPO and LG G3 that I can compare to.
Holding the phone at my normal reading distance or even slightly closer I cannot tell the difference in sharpness between the displays.
The biggest differences are colour saturation and black levels along with screen brightness. The LG G4 and G3 are very saturated and unnatural looking.
Opo with kcal calibration and op3 with sRGB look more neutral.
Min brightness on g3 is high and blacks On op3 is the best.

It's strange that all of you guys are saying that it's not a bad display while the whole forum is *****ing about it

What do you guys think about the zte axon 7?

I think its a phone made by a chinese manufacturer that has metal in its build.

memo45 said:
It's strange that all of you guys are saying that it's not a bad display while the whole forum is *****ing about it
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Whole forum? Doubtful. (Seems a fair amount find it OK or better according to the real-life review section)
Personally the display is more than satisfactory. 4.5/5.
Comparing with recent phones iPhone 6/OnePlus 2 and wife's current iPhone 6s.

memo45 said:
It's strange that all of you guys are saying that it's not a bad display while the whole forum is *****ing about it
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Actually I would love to do a blindfold test with any naysayers. The screen is fantastic and probably more than anyone but a heavy VR user would need. Post #2 was absolutely correct in his description.

khaos64 said:
Whole forum? Doubtful. (Seems a fair amount find it OK or better according to the real-life review section)
Personally the display is more than satisfactory. 4.5/5.
Comparing with recent phones iPhone 6/OnePlus 2 and wife's current iPhone 6s.
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IF it's better than an iphone 6 screen then I'm sold ?

singlebyte said:
Actually I would love to do a blindfold test with any naysayers. The screen is fantastic and probably more than anyone but a heavy VR user would need. Post #2 was absolutely correct in his description.
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I have seen a review that I could actually see the pixels on oneplus 3 screen's on video,hope it's the camera he was recording with

Not at all, it's pretty good if you do some necessary tweaks. Personally, I'm using Sultan ROM with sRGB mode (Photography mode) and the following calibrations: Red 93%, Green 87%, Blue 100%, Saturation 6%, Intensity 8. It looks great, natural colors, slightly saturated so they don't look too washed, and AMOLED black. I'm quite happy, honestly.

Daemos said:
I have a OP3, LG G4, OPO and LG G3 that I can compare to.
Holding the phone at my normal reading distance or even slightly closer I cannot tell the difference in sharpness between the displays.
The biggest differences are colour saturation and black levels along with screen brightness. The LG G4 and G3 are very saturated and unnatural looking.
Opo with kcal calibration and op3 with sRGB look more neutral.
Min brightness on g3 is high and blacks On op3 is the best.
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So you recommend op3?
I have a g3. I don't want to give up ir blaster sd card or removable batteries. Plus glass screen protector with no issues. But night time use with that AMOLED is nice. I don't like how it doesn't have multiwindow nor one handed view like my g3.
Hopefully it gets nougat quickly. I'll see how the Pixel XL is but if it's $750+ I'm not paying double. The OP 3 is a beast. I'll only consider the Google phone if it's $600. Which it won't be so hopefully I get a OnePlus 3 without screen uniformity issue this time.

I have galaxy note5.. and I can't tell the deference side by side by sharpness.. I can only notice some changing in color. But as I use sRGB on OP3 and basic on GN5 I cant tell any difference!!
Oh maybe the dpi.. but i change it on my op3 to be like gn5...

Question Pixel 6 displays are not brightness monsters

Tomsguide.com says both Pixel 6 displays are "rated for 800 nits peak brightness in High Brightness mode".
Google Pixel 6 review
The Google Pixel 6 delivers the best Android experience for the money with superb cameras, a unique design and Android 12
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Other phones per Displaymate.com testing:
Pixel 3 XL = 434 cd/m2
Pixel 4 XL = 448 cd/m2
Pixel 5 = 670 nits (per Reddit)
iPhone 13 Pro Max = 1042 cd/m2
Galaxy Note 9 = 1050 cd/m2
Galaxy S20 Ultra = 1342 cd/m2
OnePlus 9 Pro = 1649 cd/m2
800 nits doesn't totally suck, but it's not "great" by todays standards.
A bit of a letdown if it's true, especially considering that the 6 Pro is rumored to have a Samsung display.
Sunlight visibility isn't only about nits, but it sure helps.

That would suck if true. I have an OP 9 Pro as well and even that could be brighter in sunlight

Ugh. Way too dim. I live in Miami, and I bought the Galaxy Note 20 Ultra because of its bright display and even that I can BARELY read outdoors during the summer months here. We need 2000+ nits on phone around here.

I'm very concerned about this. I currently have a Note 20 Ultra at 1500 nits. I very rarely need to push the brightness, but when I do, it's there. At 800 max, this is one of the first test I'm going to run.

Google hasn’t listed the exact screen brightness and instead only states it has a high brightness mode, but to my eye, it’s as bright as the iPhone 13 Pro that hits 1,000 nits of sustained brightness.

CZ Eddie said:
Tomsguide.com says both Pixel 6 displays are "rated for 800 nits peak brightness in High Brightness mode".
Google Pixel 6 review
The Google Pixel 6 delivers the best Android experience for the money with superb cameras, a unique design and Android 12
www.tomsguide.com
Other phones:
Pixel 3 XL = 434 cd/m2
iPhone 13 Pro Max = 1042 cd/m2
Galaxy Note 9 = 1050 cd/m2
Galaxy S20 Ultra = 1342 cd/m2
OnePlus 9 Pro = 1649 cd/m2
800 nits doesn't totally suck, but it's not "great" by todays standards.
A bit of a letdown if it's true, especially considering that the 6 Pro is rumored to have a Samsung display.
Sunlight visibility isn't only about nits, but it sure helps.
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With any luck, for the unlocked model once rooted, will be able to have a custom kernel that enables at least a high-brightness mode like I used to use with the Pixel 1:
https://elementalx.org/devices/
and the HBM app to go along with the kernel: High Brightness Mode

roirraW edor ehT said:
With any luck, for the unlocked model once rooted, will be able to have a custom kernel that enables at least a high-brightness mode like I used to use with the Pixel 1:
https://elementalx.org/devices/
and the HBM app to go along with the kernel: High Brightness Mode
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Yep. Hopefully tbalden will implement his kernel (CleanSlate) for this phone. He not only has a High Brightness mode but a High Brightness Boost mode that is fabulous in bright sunshine for the Pixel 4 XL.

My delivery date has updated again, back to Oct 27-28. Guess I can stop holding my breath till I get my way

I have 20/20 vision and I can barely stand the brightness with today's phones even in bright sunlight past the half way point on the slider. But I digress.

One complaint I have about my Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ is it doesn't get dim enough when being used in the dark. It doesn't automatically go to the lowest brightness most of the time, and even when I manually lower it to the bottom, it's still way too bright. It's relatively rare these days that I try to use my phone in the dark, but through root on my Pixel 1, I was able to go even lower than it got without root - which was already lower than my Note does. It is nice having the screen be able to get so bright, although in the brightest sun, it was still slightly difficult to see, and it's more important to me that the software works the way it was meant to - which is not what I get with the Note.

you can't really tell but it is as bright as my s21u. you can't tell the difference. people who say otherwise are straight lying.

dj24 said:
I have 20/20 vision and I can barely stand the brightness with today's phones even in bright sunlight past the half way point on the slider. But I digress.
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I'm with you, have 20/10 vision and light sensitivity so sunglasses anytime I'm outside that's not after dark and have every piece of glass in my car tinted including the windshield so I suppose we are in a slightly different category than most in this thread.

Checked Pixel 6 Pro today at Bestbuy, felt P6P is not as premium as S21 Ultra. S21 Ultra build quality felt premium to me, the back being matte feels like metal, also S21 ultra screen quality is better (brightness and richness of color etc..).
Check the attached screen comparison pic (both are at 100% brightness).

hello00 said:
you can't really tell but it is as bright as my s21u. you can't tell the difference. people who say otherwise are straight lying.
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I don't know bro. You probably held a defected 6p. However, I can comment on the colors. That's because Samsung devices have the option to have vivid screen mode. This is something you can achieve on the 6p with a custom kernel. It comes down to preferences

hello00 said:
I don't know bro. You probably held a defected 6p. However, I can comment on the colors. That's because Samsung devices have the option to have vivid screen mode. This is something you can achieve on the 6p with a custom kernel. It comes down to preferences
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Do you know what display options the Pixel 6 Pro has? For instance, the 4XL has Natural, Boosted and Adaptive. The 2XL has Natural, boosted and saturated. I believe Adaptive is default for 4XL and Boosted for the 2XL.
@droidguy22 Did you notice these options while you were playing around with it?

I did not check. But I also heard that many pixel owners see no difference between natural and boosted.

hello00 said:
I did not check. But I also heard that many pixel owners see no difference between natural and boosted.
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Very slight difference between natural and boosted on my Pixel 4 XL, but noticeable difference with adaptive compared to those other two.

hello00 said:
you can't really tell but it is as bright as my s21u. you can't tell the difference. people who say otherwise are straight lying.
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Googles high-brightness mode can't be toggled/manually "activated" by hand (except if you root and force that), so most people just max the slider and then make a comparison. That's why there is a lot of confusion concerning the "doesn't get bright enough" - But that's bull****. It won't work. You need to go into a direct sunlight situation and then and only then the phone will max out. It's hardcoded and is only active when the phone sensors scream "supa bright!!!". It's Googles way to do it and it sorta sucks, but that's how it is.
So if people want to make a brightness comparison, they need to be in a very bright spot to make sure that the Pixel phone will actually max le brightness. If you just max the slider in a room with normal lights, the phone will not go into high brightness mode and your comparison will suck a*ss, because those Samsungs or Apple phones will shine your daylights out.
By the way, what helps Pixel smartphones (at least the P3 and P4 XL that I owned showed that) massively in terms of readability is decent anti-reflective coating/glass. A phone with decent anti-reflective capabilities and 800 nits is much better readable than a phone with 1100 nits and bad anti-reflective capabilities.

I know. Real max auto brightness (when the phone detects very high brightness) is very different from the max manual brightness just by sliding the brightness bar to the end. Next time you check, try flashing your phone flashlight right next to 6p's front camera and the brightness should jump up even higher.

Question Got my 6 Pro but feeling a little underwhelmed with the screen

Hi,
First of all I am coming from the OP 8 Pro which has a beautiful screen and whites are whites let me get that out of the way first of all.
The customisation Google allows users to do to OUR screens is ridiculous imo.
No RGB, No wide colour gamut and no white balance adjustment.
Is there anyway to get rid of the awful yellow/green on blacks on these screens without root?
Also is there any way to remove material you or at least allow Black/White in the accent colours? I mean come on Google WTAF were they thinking, I don't want any accent on my screen to be crappy coloured it looks washed out with any of the 4 colours.
Also the Normal/Boosted and Adaptive are all weak imo still nowhere near as nice looking as my OP 8 Pro in Wide colour gamut mode.
I have 1 week before I decide what I am doing with this but right now I look at my OP 8 Pro screen and then my Pixel 6 Pro screen and it looks like total puke.
Sorry have to be honest to die hard Google fans, Since Google started to calibrate warm screens since the Pixel 4 XL which I duly sent back also I haven't had a Pixel since then until now and they still are not listening to their customers it seems.

Nope there isn't. Some people prefer overblown colors, others prefer a more muted - dare I say - natural looking screen.
I agree that the level of customisation is lacking and I understand your frustrations. But having had many different devices through the years, you'll usually adapt to the difference in color temperature and gamut over time and that'll become your new standard. It is much like sound from speakers - one initially prefers the sound one is accustomed to and over time either grows to love the new sound profile or keep despising it.

Ady1976 said:
Hi,
First of all I am coming from the OP 8 Pro which has a beautiful screen and whites are whites let me get that out of the way first of all.
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According to this... (display tests)
Pixel 6 Pro https://www.dxomark.com/google-pixel-6-pro-display-review/
Position in Global Ranking #6
Position in Ultra-Premium Ranking #5
OP 8 Pro https://www.dxomark.com/oneplus-8-pro-display-review-color-rendering-a-strength/
Position in Global Ranking #20
You did mention that you have problems with "whites are whites" with your Pixel and not with your OnePlus - maybe you have a defective screen. My P6 Pros display has no problems with whites, yellows or green. Everything fine here.

vPro97 said:
Nope there isn't. Some people prefer overblown colors, others prefer a more muted - dare I say - natural looking screen.
I agree that the level of customisation is lacking and I understand your frustrations. But having had many different devices through the years, you'll usually adapt to the difference in color temperature and gamut over time and that'll become your new standard. It is much like sound from speakers - one initially prefers the sound one is accustomed to and over time either grows to love the new sound profile or keep despising it.
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I think the colours are probably just about ok at boosted or adaptive what is making them look even more is the materail you and the warm yellow screen calibration, It doesn't help with colours or whites on any screen even TV's.
Me personally like any TV or Monitor or any screen for that matter they should be configurable to any user, the way google sets their phones up is like a stick it or lump it attitude and it really is not winning me over, People would not keep a TV they were not happy with if the picture could not be adjusted and so goes the same for mobile phone screens and to be quite frank Google the last few years or so have gone worse in terms of screen customisation, Even dare I say it Apple (Cough cough) has white balance adjustments, Why for the love of god do Google not add more screen options, I think I may send it back if nothing can be done, If I could have at least selected black/white is accent colours that would have helped a little for the rest of the green puke on blacks but this screen is just not sharp to me, Even the font they use looks unclear compared to my OP 8 Pro, Weird as it sounds as I have never been a OP fan but they have nailed the screens lately and have a ton of customisation options to boot.
I may wait for the OP 10 Pro, Somehow I don't think I can live with a device that you use for hours each day and is the most important factor imo.

Morgrain said:
According to this... (display tests)
Pixel 6 Pro https://www.dxomark.com/google-pixel-6-pro-display-review/
Position in Global Ranking #6
Position in Ultra-Premium Ranking #5
OP 8 Pro https://www.dxomark.com/oneplus-8-pro-display-review-color-rendering-a-strength/
Position in Global Ranking #20
You did mention that you have problems with "whites are whites" with your Pixel and not with your OnePlus - maybe you have a defective screen. My P6 Pros display has no problems with whites, yellows or green. Everything fine here.
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HI,
It's my second P6 Pro I received yesterday and they both look exactly the same, They have been calibrated warm as Google has been doing for a few years now and not having enough configurable display options to allow the user to configure their devcie to their liking, I don't expect miracles but I expect a flagship phone to be adjustable to my needs and likes.
I prefer the cool white look and this is screen is not that, Doesn't look as bad in daylight but in duller darker rooms is looks awful to my eyes, Font is too bold, No black accent colour to get rid off the green puke on blacks because of material you and no white balance adjustment just sucks for a premium device imo.
I will see if I can take a picture both side by side so people can see how white my OP 8 Pro is but sometimes cameras take half assed pics of screens.

Ady1976 said:
I think the colours are probably just about ok at boosted or adaptive what is making them look even more is the materail you and the warm yellow screen calibration, It doesn't help with colours or whites on any screen even TV's.
Me personally like any TV or Monitor or any screen for that matter they should be configurable to any user, the way google sets their phones up is like a stick it or lump it attitude and it really is not winning me over, People would not keep a TV they were not happy with if the picture could not be adjusted and so goes the same for mobile phone screens and to be quite frank Google the last few years or so have gone worse in terms of screen customisation, Even dare I say it Apple (Cough cough) has white balance adjustments, Why for the love of god do Google not add more screen options, I think I may send it back if nothing can be done, If I could have at least selected black/white is accent colours that would have helped a little for the rest of the green puke on blacks but this screen is just not sharp to me, Even the font they use looks unclear compared to my OP 8 Pro, Weird as it sounds as I have never been a OP fan but they have nailed the screens lately and have a ton of customisation options to boot.
I may wait for the OP 10 Pro, Somehow I don't think I can live with a device that you use for hours each day and is the most important factor imo.
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It's not your imagination. Color rendering on all variable rate displays has suffered. Between the variable refresh rate and adjustable brightness accurate color rendering is a casualty.
I haven't use any of the variable refresh rate displays because of this. There are complaints about all manufacturers/models and the P6 has gotten more than its share.
My color perception is in the top 1% of the population. Someone who is at 80% etc can't even see what I can in color shifts. As you ability to perceive color increases so will your expectations. Poor color rendering in a display is extremely annoying to me.
As far as fixed refresh rate displays go the Note 10+ is still near or at the top of the heap for color rendering. It surpasses all the variable refresh rate displays for color rendering.
However starting with the N20U, the S21U and the Fold 3 with variable rate displays the color rendering index dropped. These displays are extremely hard for the manufacturer to color calibrate even for Samsung who are on the bleeding edge of commercial AMOLED technology.
If the small decrease in color rendering is perceivable depends perhaps of the user but it's definitely measurable. It has dropped on all the variable rate displays currently available.
One reason I'm still happily using 2 yo technology...

Use night light to reallllly make it yellow then turn it off, it'll look more whiter for you orrrrr don't buy a pixel lol

blackhawk said:
It's not your imagination. Color rendering on all variable rate displays has suffered. Between the variable refresh rate and adjustable brightness accurate color rendering is a casualty.
I haven't use any of the variable refresh rate displays because of this. There are complaints about all manufacturers/models and the P6 has gotten more than its share.
My color perception is in the top 1% of the population. Someone who is at 80% etc can't even see what I can in color shifts. As you ability to perceive color increases so will your expectations. Poor color rendering in a display is extremely annoying to me.
As far as fixed refresh rate displays go the Note 10+ is still near or at the top of the heap for color rendering. It surpasses all the variable refresh rate displays for color rendering.
However starting with the N20U, the S21U and the Fold 3 with variable rate displays the color rendering index dropped. These displays are extremely hard for the manufacturer to color calibrate even for Samsung who are on the bleeding edge of commercial AMOLED technology.
If the small decrease in color rendering is perceivable depends perhaps of the user but it's definitely measurable. It has dropped on all the variable rate displays currently available.
One reason I'm still happily using 2 yo technology...
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Hey funny you should say that because my Sony TV doesn't look that good at 120hz neither, Colours change from 60hz to 120hz.
But my OP 8 Pro is pure white and good colours, All I can think of they calibrated it for the highest resolution which to be honest is what Google should have done.

kevinireland11 said:
Use night light to reallllly make it yellow then turn it off, it'll look more whiter for you orrrrr don't buy a pixel lol
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Yep it's the reason I sent the 4XL back lol, I'd have thought that many would have complained in the meantime since the last 2 gens and Google would have done something about it, Maybe my eyes are sensitive to screen setup quality or colour or something but I don't rate this screen at all.

blackhawk said:
It's not your imagination. Color rendering on all variable rate displays has suffered. Between the variable refresh rate and adjustable brightness accurate color rendering is a casualty.
I haven't use any of the variable refresh rate displays because of this. There are complaints about all manufacturers/models and the P6 has gotten more than its share.
My color perception is in the top 1% of the population. Someone who is at 80% etc can't even see what I can in color shifts. As you ability to perceive color increases so will your expectations. Poor color rendering in a display is extremely annoying to me.
As far as fixed refresh rate displays go the Note 10+ is still near or at the top of the heap for color rendering. It surpasses all the variable refresh rate displays for color rendering.
However starting with the N20U, the S21U and the Fold 3 with variable rate displays the color rendering index dropped. These displays are extremely hard for the manufacturer to color calibrate even for Samsung who are on the bleeding edge of commercial AMOLED technology.
If the small decrease in color rendering is perceivable depends perhaps of the user but it's definitely measurable. It has dropped on all the variable rate displays currently available.
One reason I'm still happily using 2 yo technology...
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Agree about VRR but my s21U @120 Hz display looks *Much* better than my P6P display. The colour is much more vibrant. The P6P display looks dull and yellow IMHO. I'm very underwhelmed by it

Ady1976 said:
Yep it's the reason I sent the 4XL back lol, I'd have thought that many would have complained in the meantime since the last 2 gens and Google would have done something about it, Maybe my eyes are sensitive to screen setup quality or colour or something but I don't rate this screen at all.
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Agreed. I don't think it's a very good panel maybe B+ overall.

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Agree about VRR but my s21U @120 Hz display looks *Much* better than my P6P display. The colour is much more vibrant. The P6P display looks dull and yellow IMHO. I'm very underwhelmed by it
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I still don't get why people think that vibrant colors are "good". Cranking up the brightness and reducing the color palette down to 20 colors might be feasible for a comic, but for an everyday device, depicting all kinds of content? I'd rather have color accuracy. Samsung is known for oversaturating the heck out of their phones, ergo yes a Pixel might seem "dull" to you (not sure why you say yellow, my phone has no yellow hue/tint - Pixels are calibrated between a mix of what most TV makers call Warm I/II (which most consider as "accurate")), even though to other ears that's a positive point, since that's called "accurate" and many like it.
Just take a look at icons... you can't tell me that they don't look different on your Pixel. That they don't have color shades and color transitions that you can't see in a Samsung. That's an accurate image - to show you exactly what the creator of the content envisioned. They surely don't want people to lose access to all kinds of details for the sake of "MUST LOOK VIBRANT! KABOOM SATURATION! GREEN IS GREEN! AND THAT MEANS COMIC GREEN! VIBRANT MAXIMUS! (there are thousands and thousands of hues of green, but not with an oversaturated phone...)".
Colors in life are rarely flashy, vibrant and glorious. They are dull, sad and weak. Only few colors are dashing. And the Pixel depicts that. But only those. It doesn't artifically crank up every color to the max, just to "please" the uneducated mind.

Morgrain said:
I still don't get why people think that vibrant colors are "good". Cranking up the brightness and reducing the color palette down to 20 colors might be feasible for a comic, but for an everyday device, depicting all kinds of content? I'd rather have color accuracy. Samsung is known for oversaturating the heck out of their phones, ergo yes a Pixel might seem "dull" to you (not sure why you say yellow, my phone has no yellow hue/tint), even though to other ears that's a positive point, since that's called "accurate" and many like it.
Just take a look at icons... you can't tell me that they don't look different on your Pixel. That they don't have color shades and color transitions that you can't see in a Samsung. That's an accurate image - to show you exactly what the creator of the content envisioned. They surely don't want people to lose access to all kinds of details for the sake of "MUST LOOK VIBRANT! KABOOM SATURATION!".
Colors in life are rarely flashy, vibrant and glorious. They are dull, sad and weak. Only few colors are dashing. And the Pixel depicts that. But only those. It doesn't artifically crank up every color to the max, just to "please" the uneducated mind.
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Aside from the colours, the panel just looks much better. There's even noticeable PWM on my P6P that the s21U doesn't have. After years of trying to get the right tuning , contrast etc on my TVs I've decided to go with what I like , same for phones, the P6P just doesn't look that nice to me. PS. I didn't think the OP8Pronhad a good display either, mine had pretty bad green tint and black crush at low brightness.

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There's even noticeable PWM on my P6P that the s21U doesn't have.
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Interesting. My family has many S21Us and I've noticed flicker on their phones, but not on my P6 Pro. In the end it's a question of sensitivity I guess. Every modern flagshipphone flickers/ has PMW (Iphones, Samsungs, Pixels...), so in the end I'd say get the device that's best for your eyes/headaches.
According to https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsu...proved-in-many-ways-but-not-all.517524.0.html the S21 Ultra has
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I looked for a test with the P6 Pro, but haven't found such a graphic yet.

Morgrain said:
Interesting. My family has many S21Us and I've noticed flicker on their phones, but not on my P6 Pro. In the end it's a question of sensitivity I guess. Every modern flagshipphone flickers/ has PMW (Iphones, Samsungs, Pixels...), so in the end I'd say get the device that's best for your eyes/headaches.
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Of course, you should get the display you like. A lot is probably subjective anyway.

Morgrain said:
I still don't get why people think that vibrant colors are "good". Cranking up the brightness and reducing the color palette down to 20 colors might be feasible for a comic, but for an everyday device, depicting all kinds of content? I'd rather have color accuracy. Samsung is known for oversaturating the heck out of their phones, ergo yes a Pixel might seem "dull" to you (not sure why you say yellow, my phone has no yellow hue/tint - Pixels are calibrated between a mix of what most TV makers call Warm I/II (which most consider as "accurate")), even though to other ears that's a positive point, since that's called "accurate" and many like it.
Just take a look at icons... you can't tell me that they don't look different on your Pixel. That they don't have color shades and color transitions that you can't see in a Samsung. That's an accurate image - to show you exactly what the creator of the content envisioned. They surely don't want people to lose access to all kinds of details for the sake of "MUST LOOK VIBRANT! KABOOM SATURATION! GREEN IS GREEN! AND THAT MEANS COMIC GREEN! VIBRANT MAXIMUS! (there are thousands and thousands of hues of green, but not with an oversaturated phone...)".
Colors in life are rarely flashy, vibrant and glorious. They are dull, sad and weak. Only few colors are dashing. And the Pixel depicts that. But only those. It doesn't artifically crank up every color to the max, just to "please" the uneducated mind.
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The S21U is not "missing colors when in vibrant mode. Although you may find colors oversaturated.

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Agreed. I don't think it's a very good panel maybe B+ overall.
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I don't know if it is the panel or the way it has been configured but the more you turn the brightness up the more washed out it gets unlike my OP 8 Pro it is just clear right the way through, However I agree it is not pleasing to my eyes at all, The font for the status bar looks blurry, No white accent to get rid of the puke and can't disable that theming nonsense look, While this may look good to some it does not to me at all.

Morgrain said:
I still don't get why people think that vibrant colors are "good". Cranking up the brightness and reducing the color palette down to 20 colors might be feasible for a comic, but for an everyday device, depicting all kinds of content? I'd rather have color accuracy. Samsung is known for oversaturating the heck out of their phones, ergo yes a Pixel might seem "dull" to you (not sure why you say yellow, my phone has no yellow hue/tint - Pixels are calibrated between a mix of what most TV makers call Warm I/II (which most consider as "accurate")), even though to other ears that's a positive point, since that's called "accurate" and many like it.
Just take a look at icons... you can't tell me that they don't look different on your Pixel. That they don't have color shades and color transitions that you can't see in a Samsung. That's an accurate image - to show you exactly what the creator of the content envisioned. They surely don't want people to lose access to all kinds of details for the sake of "MUST LOOK VIBRANT! KABOOM SATURATION! GREEN IS GREEN! AND THAT MEANS COMIC GREEN! VIBRANT MAXIMUS! (there are thousands and thousands of hues of green, but not with an oversaturated phone...)".
Colors in life are rarely flashy, vibrant and glorious. They are dull, sad and weak. Only few colors are dashing. And the Pixel depicts that. But only those. It doesn't artifically crank up every color to the max, just to "please" the uneducated mind.
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Yes but question do you watch everyday TV programs with Warm 1 or Warm 2 as it is known on Sony TV's? I am going to stick my neck out and say you probably don't as most Warm profiles on TV's is for Movies only not everyday use and the fact is I can adjust it on my TV back to neutral without that yellow look.
As for the colours yes they do look natural and just about right but it's that washed out look that makes the colours look even more muted, No point having a good colour profile and then washing them out all with yellow is there lets be honest it does not make sense and never has why they do this on a device that you look at 99% of the time and 9 times out of 10 your not watching movies on it anyway.
Also not just the yellow tint you have to put up with on these P 6's and Pro's it's even that crappy material you that you can't turn and so no mater what wallpaper you use it's adding yet another layer of colour on top of the yellow already, So you've got yellow and 1 of them 4 accent colours messing everything up, My problem is with Google is they are not helping at all by not allowing users to configure their screens, You would not in a million years as an enthusiast purchase a TV that you cannot configure the screen for so.

Ady1976 said:
I don't know if it is the panel or the way it has been configured but the more you turn the brightness up the more washed out it gets unlike my OP 8 Pro it is just clear right the way through, However I agree it is not pleasing to my eyes at all, The font for the status bar looks blurry, No white accent to get rid of the puke and can't disable that theming nonsense look, While this may look good to some it does not to me at all.
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To each their own I suppose. I had the OP 8 Pro before the P6P, and I prefer the P6P's display. The OP 8 Pro would give me a headache after a while of viewing, and the P6P's display does not.
I also prefer the more natural colors of the P6P than the exceedingly vibrant, almost cartoonish-like colors of the Samsung, and OP displays to a lesser extent.

Ady1976 said:
I don't know if it is the panel or the way it has been configured but the more you turn the brightness up the more washed out it gets unlike my OP 8 Pro it is just clear right the way through, However I agree it is not pleasing to my eyes at all, The font for the status bar looks blurry, No white accent to get rid of the puke and can't disable that theming nonsense look, While this may look good to some it does not to me at all.
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That's interesting you said about the font looking blurry, this is something I also see but I don't know whats causing it, text looks grainy to me. I don't know the technical reason or why but there's a kind of grain to the display that I can see.

Question Just tell me why oppo find x3 neo is better on night shots vs Google 6 pro???

pixel 6 pro vs oppo find x3 neo (Night shots)
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Cant really check a real analysis from random photos where a number of factors kick in including focus and the fact Flickr quality is ass.
I'll just compare the dxomark instead
Oppo Find X3 Neo Camera review: Good in zoom for its segment - DXOMARK
The Oppo Find X3 Neo camera produces accurately exposed photos, with wide dynamic range, and does particularly well in zoom for its category.
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Google Pixel 6 Pro Camera review: A big leap in image quality - DXOMARK
The Pixel 6 Pro is the 2021 flagship in Google’s Pixel line of smartphone, featuring a 6.7-inch OLED LTPO display with 120Hz refresh rate and QHD+ resolution, Google’s brand new in-house-developed Tensor chipset and up to 512GB of ROM. It is also the first Pixel phone to feature a triple camera...
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Izy said:
Cant really check a real analysis from random photos where a number of factors kick in including focus and the fact Flickr quality is ass.
I'll just compare the dxomark instead
Oppo Find X3 Neo Camera review: Good in zoom for its segment - DXOMARK
The Oppo Find X3 Neo camera produces accurately exposed photos, with wide dynamic range, and does particularly well in zoom for its category.
www.dxomark.com
Google Pixel 6 Pro Camera review: A big leap in image quality - DXOMARK
The Pixel 6 Pro is the 2021 flagship in Google’s Pixel line of smartphone, featuring a 6.7-inch OLED LTPO display with 120Hz refresh rate and QHD+ resolution, Google’s brand new in-house-developed Tensor chipset and up to 512GB of ROM. It is also the first Pixel phone to feature a triple camera...
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Do what you want. Photos are οn same scenarios from both phones and oppo doing it far away better with more detail.
Pixel 6 pro seems focusing on subjects but photos are not Clear.
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Do what you want. Photos are οn same scenarios from both phones and oppo doing it far away better with more detail.
Pixel 6 pro seems focusing on subjects but photos are not Clear.
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https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=d3Y2MDBxS0c5S25FVlFXem9tZEx1ay1vNExFeDl3 Check fotos from pixel 3 xl.

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Hahaha you can't just say it's better without take the same picture with both phones....
Oppo/Oneplus never had the best hardware/software for taking photos

Interesting.

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Hahaha you can't just say it's better without take the same picture with both phones....
Oppo/Oneplus never had the best hardware/software for taking photos
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Did you checked link on Flickr??? They are just same fotos.

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Did you checked link on Flickr??? They are just same fotos.
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Do what you want. Photos are οn same scenarios from both phones and oppo doing it far away better with more detail.
Pixel 6 pro seems focusing on subjects but photos are not Clear.
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i mean they clearly not, this is why I linked dxo its controlled conditions
also more than half the pixels photos areusing night mode since flikr has exif data so its boosting brightness among other things
com.google.android.apps.camera.gallery.specialtype.SpecialType-NIGHT
also even so what you define better quality onpoint
onpoint being you think oversaturated, warm filtered , non colour accurate images.
just look at this for example
left is nightshot pixel right is neo
Just look at the car look how bad it is on the neo
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look how skewed colours are
also another prime example of the fact the pixels in nightshot mode working it
the bush left has the details brought in the darker areas and the bright lights are overblown on the pixel left the image is overall brighter but aims to be accurate colour wise and not warm filtered etc like the oppo right
im sure the oppo probably has a nightshot mode that can be toggled like the pixel so not a fair comparison
also again colours are way skewed as you can see on the right image and details are lost in distance on oppo (right)

With moon light only

Izy said:
i mean they clearly not, this is why I linked dxo its controlled conditions
also more than half the pixels photos areusing night mode since flikr has exif data so its boosting brightness among other things
com.google.android.apps.camera.gallery.specialtype.SpecialType-NIGHT
also even so what you define better quality onpoint
onpoint being you think oversaturated, warm filtered , non colour accurate images.
just look at this for example
left is nightshot pixel right is neo
Just look at the car look how bad it is on the neo
look how skewed colours are
also another prime example of the fact the pixels in nightshot mode working it
the bush left has the details brought in the darker areas and the bright lights are overblown on the pixel left the image is overall brighter but aims to be accurate colour wise and not warm filtered etc like the oppo right
im sure the oppo probably has a nightshot mode that can be toggled like the pixel so not a fair comparison
also again colours are way skewed as you can see on the right image and details are lost in distance on oppo (right)
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Brother they have 600€ on price difference and still oppo is more detailed on most scenarios.... I don't really care for this Little colour diff. Oppo has 60w charge vs 30w on pixel. Oppo has better fingerprint than pixel. Pixel is a Little bit better on display and on mics... Those Little differences cost me 500€ more...
So no thanks....
Also oppo got destroyed on camera after Android 12 update so im w8ing a fix.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/[email protected]/D75S67 here you can see Android 11 night shots

Izy said:
i mean they clearly not, this is why I linked dxo its controlled conditions
also more than half the pixels photos areusing night mode since flikr has exif data so its boosting brightness among other things
com.google.android.apps.camera.gallery.specialtype.SpecialType-NIGHT
also even so what you define better quality onpoint
onpoint being you think oversaturated, warm filtered , non colour accurate images.
just look at this for example
left is nightshot pixel right is neo
Just look at the car look how bad it is on the neo
look how skewed colours are
also another prime example of the fact the pixels in nightshot mode working it
the bush left has the details brought in the darker areas and the bright lights are overblown on the pixel left the image is overall brighter but aims to be accurate colour wise and not warm filtered etc like the oppo right
im sure the oppo probably has a nightshot mode that can be toggled like the pixel so not a fair comparison
also again colours are way skewed as you can see on the right image and details are lost in distance on oppo (right)
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Basically every point I'd have made too. Just so oversaturated. That's not to say Pixel is perfect as it's not.

As a photographer (of mainly night stuff, too): most of the Pixel shots are more accurate to true life colours & look better to my eye. I can see why people like the warm/over-saturated colours of the Oppo, but it's factually incorrect to say they're better, they're just different.
Most of the Oppo shots (in your OP) are over-saturated/processed & this objectively makes them worse than the Pixel's images as these they look far more natural to the eye. On the flip-side, another great example of this is using the 6 Pro camera during the day - in my opinion, the 6 Pro just doesn't take great daytime photos: they're over-processed & most of the time you need to edit (reduce black point, increase highlights/white point, reduce clarity etc) them to give them a natural look, and the same looks to be true with Find X3 Neo night shots.
Neither camera is perfect: eg. both the photographs of the Pine(?) tree look really weird - the Pixel has over-processed & pulled the black point so high that it's now purpley-grey & the Oppo has completely over-saturated the colours and the tree also has purpley tones... maybe it’s the ambient lighting?
I think I'll stick to the Canon & Mamiya for anything other than point & shoot.