While researching ability to use USB DAC while charging the phone in the car I found this video. The guy clearly says that tablet is charging while accessing all those accessories via USB OTG. Similar cables are found on ebay, called "USB OTG with power".
The big question is: would the Galaxy S3 actually charge while using USB DAC at the same time? It should be possible, but I don't have the phone yet (still considering it), nor do I have the cable, nor a USB DAC In theory it should be the same with any accessory - can someone actually confirm either way, whether phone can or can't charge in USB OTG mode with similar cable? This video shows similar setup on Galaxy S (only it's normal OTG cable, USB hub, usb Y-cable and card reader) and it's definitely charging while mounting USB devices! Will S3 do the same?
I fear that upgrading from Galaxy S with voodoo control of Wolfson chip to north-American S3 with worse audio path might not suit me if there's no way to power the phone and use external DAC at the same time in the car... I hope there is a way... I appreciate any advice and opinions.
It's a first time I see such cable...All I read was people saying it's impossible in the first place. Well, hopefully in 2 weeks I'll be able answer your question
midirt said:
While researching ability to use USB DAC while charging the phone in the car I found this video. The guy clearly says that tablet is charging while accessing all those accessories via USB OTG. Similar cables are found on ebay, called "USB OTG with power".
The big question is: would the Galaxy S3 actually charge while using USB DAC at the same time? It should be possible, but I don't have the phone yet (still considering it), nor do I have the cable, nor a USB DAC In theory it should be the same with any accessory - can someone actually confirm either way, whether phone can or can't charge in USB OTG mode with similar cable? This video shows similar setup on Galaxy S (only it's normal OTG cable, USB hub, usb Y-cable and card reader) and it's definitely charging while mounting USB devices! Will S3 do the same?
I fear that upgrading from Galaxy S with voodoo control of Wolfson chip to north-American S3 with worse audio path might not suit me if there's no way to power the phone and use external DAC at the same time in the car... I hope there is a way... I appreciate any advice and opinions.
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HI. I Got it working on SONY XPERIA S now i will play with GALAXY SII AND SIII , check my siganture and website --> follow me i hope i can help
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HI. I Got it working on SONY XPERIA S now i will play with GALAXY SII AND SIII , check my siganture and website --> follow me i hope i can help
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Looks like it's possible on some devices, but not with Galaxy and Nexus family... But it would be great if you can confirm that, so let me know if you can try it. Thanks.
Finally got the cable.
The result - nope, doesn't charge
Maybe the "Allshare hub" could do what your asking for?
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HI. I Got it working on SONY XPERIA S now i will play with GALAXY SII AND SIII , check my siganture and website --> follow me i hope i can help
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Sonic, any luck with your friends phone? Really looking foward to your results :fingers-crossed:
Do you have part #s for the variable resistors in your samsung post or at least where you got them from? I would be willing to try some things out if I could find the right pieces. What I really want to get my hands on is the MHL adapter that was shown off with that spider laptop at IFA a couple weeks ago..
SUCCESS!!! I can confirm that this USB OTG cable (http://ebayitem.com/190710044655) DOES CHARGE MY GALAXY S3! I plugged in USB cardreader with SD card into the phone through this cable (it lit up and card is fully readable), then plugged USB cable end into PC and phone showed a charging icon! Moreover, after waiting for 5 min. with screen off (cardreader still glowing blue and working) battery has gone up from %72 to %75 (and while I was writing this, to 78%), so it is indeed charging! Yay! It probably won't get up in the car, where just phone alone is "not discharging" at best from the car adapter, but at least it should allow me to listen to music with quality DAC and use navigation without (or with minimal) discharging.
I have not tested it with USB DAC that I intend to use for my car (Behringer UCA222), because I have to go out and buy it. Hopefully it works. Anyway, this cable definitely works with simultaneously charging my north-american Samsung Galaxy S3 (from Bell Canada) while powering USB cardreader!
Somebody else has mentioned that another cable (http://ebayitem.com/120980364117) also worked in his Galaxy S2.
I bought Behringer UCA222 USB DAC and tested it in my car with the USB OTG cable with power that I mentioned. It works great! And the phone is indicating a charge. Sometimes when first playing music after plugging the device it sounds like fast forward for a few seconds (I guess clock rate mismatch or something similar), but after the presumably clock is locked it plays perfectly fine.
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SUCCESS!!! ...
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That is outstanding..gonna order one of these guys right now.
Here is a better link for all the ebay listings. Be aware of the differences, MicroUSB adapters would allow you to use your existing charge cable to plug into it while the standard USB would require you to be very close to the charger or have a USB A-A cable to attach to a power source.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...Host+OTG+Cable+++USB+power&_sacat=0&_from=R40
Jeremy.Stewart85 said:
That is outstanding..gonna order one of these guys right now.
Here is a better link for all the ebay listings. Be aware of the differences, MicroUSB adapters would allow you to use your existing charge cable to plug into it while the standard USB would require you to be very close to the charger or have a USB A-A cable to attach to a power source.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...Host+OTG+Cable+++USB+power&_sacat=0&_from=R40
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The problem is that apparently not all of those cable work in terms of charging the phone. People say mostly that it doesn't work. The only guy mentioned success is with the cable I bought, but he then confirmed it with another, more convenient cable. I have the one that needs a USB extension cable to reach the charger, but it's about a buck on ebay, so no problem there. But not all cables work this way: most reportedly will allow you to power USB accessories but not charge the phone.
I found that this configuration works for charging while in USB HOST mode:
S3 -> standard otg cable -> Powered USB2.0 HUB -> devices (keyboard, usb dac, usb hdd...)
The only catch is that the hub must be powered before you plug in the phone or the phone will try to power the hub and will never enter charging mode. I'm using this setup in my car and it works perfectly. As long as I start the car before plugging the phone, we are good to go.
I only confirmed this works with AOKP JB builds. No idea about other roms/kernels. Hopefully this helps someone.
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The problem is that apparently not all of those cable work in terms of charging the phone. People say mostly that it doesn't work. The only guy mentioned success is with the cable I bought, but he then confirmed it with another, more convenient cable. I have the one that needs a USB extension cable to reach the charger, but it's about a buck on ebay, so no problem there. But not all cables work this way: most reportedly will allow you to power USB accessories but not charge the phone.
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I got mine in the mail today (ordered 10/16) and tried it out as soon as I could. I can confirm it charges and allows for OTG at the same time. This is the auction I bought from: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251127542280&ssPageName=ADME:L:eek:U:US:3160
Hello y'all. I'd like to ask your attention to this thread, especially but not limited to sonicboom and others, I really could use some help.
Ive searched but cant seem to find such an adapter, I see one for normal usb so it should be possible for a micro usb converter?
30 pin male to usb type A female
http://dx.com/p/30-pin-to-usb-femal...or-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-10cm-length-108559
usb type A male to usb micro female
http://dx.com/p/micro-usb-female-to-usb-male-adapter-black-172524
I also saw this
http://www.adorama.com/ILVICB27BLK.html?gclid=CNaAltnC6bgCFQyk4AodbiYAMw
which has a 30 pin to micro usb but is made for the galaxy tab and galaxy s
and this is another one made for galaxy tab
http://www.miniinthebox.com/micro-u...sung-galaxy-tab-p1000-and-others_p471996.html
Im just trying to reduce wire clutter and cables I have to carry around
I got mine at best buy
Sent from my SPH-L720 using xda app-developers app
Joey22688 said:
Ive searched but cant seem to find such an adapter, I see one for normal usb so it should be possible for a micro usb converter?
30 pin male to usb type A female
http://dx.com/p/30-pin-to-usb-femal...or-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-10cm-length-108559
usb type A male to usb micro female
http://dx.com/p/micro-usb-female-to-usb-male-adapter-black-172524
I also saw this
http://www.adorama.com/ILVICB27BLK.html?gclid=CNaAltnC6bgCFQyk4AodbiYAMw
which has a 30 pin to micro usb but is made for the galaxy tab and galaxy s
and this is another one made for galaxy tab
http://www.miniinthebox.com/micro-u...sung-galaxy-tab-p1000-and-others_p471996.html
Im just trying to reduce wire clutter and cables I have to carry around
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both 30pin to microUSB for the tab will work on note 10
if you search for the usb to 30pin for the note 10 you will get few results but the 30pin for tab is exactly the same, will work and will get more results in search.
the 3rd one looks pretty slick. if i get one here in PT will buy it.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/ECC1DP0UBEGSTA-compatible
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Do these allow to both sync and charge or are they charge only?
after research, it seems they can only charge which is disappointing
My favorite place for cabling and such is here: http://www.monoprice.com/products/search.asp?keyword=usb+type+A+male+to+usb+micro+female. Their products are high quality and dirt cheap. I have a friend in broadcasting and they've used Monoprice stuff for years.
Sorry this is an old thread, but curious if anyone has done a manual conversion on 30 pin to micro? I'm in a rural location and need to travel for purchases... looking for a solution to power a note 10.1 without a cable effectively, I do have a 30pin SD card reader adapter I could rip and jig to a cable but this is my first attempt at any adapter wiring so looking for advice if any ideas out there
Here's to let everyone know that dex on the Note 10 works with the old Atrix lapdock very well
In case anyone has one lying around and wants to see it in action, you would want the following accessories:
1. USB-C to HDMI adapter ( I opted for 1 with HDMI, USB 3.0 & USB-C in for power )
2. micro HDMI to HDMI cable
3. Female micro HDMI to Female micro HDMI adapter
Optional:
1. Modified USB A to micro USB cable ( more on this later )
2. Female micro USB to Female micro USB adapter
3. USB Cable + Charger to charge your phone
If all you want is to bring up dex on your lapdock, all you need are the HDMI connectors. You will want to use a Bluetooth keyboard & mouse to navigate dex and will not be able to charge your phone.
Going 1 step further, you can use a multi-function USB-C adapter with HDMI, USB OTG & USB in for power.
Here, you would modify a usb cable to give you access to the lapdock keyboard & mousepad. The lapdock was designed to be an all-in-one setup with the Atrix phone, so the 10 hour battery could also charge the Atrix. <-- That's our problem. So you will need to snip the RED wire in the usb cable to prevent the lapdock from potentially frying your phone or other devices.
Theoretically, you can charge the phone using the 2 usb ports on the back of the lapdock, but it's a trickle effect. It'll take forever and you won't be happy. I did it in a pinch & running any applications under dex still consumed my phone's battery. Plugging it into a charger, though, kept my phone @ 100%.
A big caveat here is the mousepad is NOT multitouch, so I still used my bluetooth mouse for the scroll wheel.
Here's where this becomes a lot of fun... the lapdock screen is great for running emulators in a decent window. I plugged in my shield gamepad with a usb cable into the back of my lapdock and was able to play pretty much anything I wanted to. Still plugged into an outlet kept the phone @ 100% while emulating 100%+ speeds.
The larger screen is also very nice for streaming tv/movies.
There is an option in the Dex control panel to output audio through the HDMI cable, so you aren't relying on your phone for audio.
Anyway, if you have one of these gems lying around, it's a great way to extend the value of this phone.
ycavan said:
Here's to let everyone know that dex on the Note 10 works with the old Atrix lapdock very well
In case anyone has one lying around and wants to see it in action, you would want the following accessories:
1. USB-C to HDMI adapter ( I opted for 1 with HDMI, USB 3.0 & USB-C in for power )
2. micro HDMI to HDMI cable
3. Female micro HDMI to Female micro HDMI adapter
Optional:
1. Modified USB A to micro USB cable ( more on this later )
2. Female micro USB to Female micro USB adapter
3. USB Cable + Charger to charge your phone
If all you want is to bring up dex on your lapdock, all you need are the HDMI connectors. You will want to use a Bluetooth keyboard & mouse to navigate dex and will not be able to charge your phone.
Going 1 step further, you can use a multi-function USB-C adapter with HDMI, USB OTG & USB in for power.
Here, you would modify a usb cable to give you access to the lapdock keyboard & mousepad. The lapdock was designed to be an all-in-one setup with the Atrix phone, so the 10 hour battery could also charge the Atrix. <-- That's our problem. So you will need to snip the RED wire in the usb cable to prevent the lapdock from potentially frying your phone or other devices.
Theoretically, you can charge the phone using the 2 usb ports on the back of the lapdock, but it's a trickle effect. It'll take forever and you won't be happy. I did it in a pinch & running any applications under dex still consumed my phone's battery. Plugging it into a charger, though, kept my phone @ 100%.
A big caveat here is the mousepad is NOT multitouch, so I still used my bluetooth mouse for the scroll wheel.
Here's where this becomes a lot of fun... the lapdock screen is great for running emulators in a decent window. I plugged in my shield gamepad with a usb cable into the back of my lapdock and was able to play pretty much anything I wanted to. Still plugged into an outlet kept the phone @ 100% while emulating 100%+ speeds.
The larger screen is also very nice for streaming tv/movies.
There is an option in the Dex control panel to output audio through the HDMI cable, so you aren't relying on your phone for audio.
Anyway, if you have one of these gems lying around, it's a great way to extend the value of this phone.
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Annoyingly I have a Atrix lapdock but I'm not confident about the rewiring so found a good discounted HP Elite X3 lapdock. Only if someone sold the full cable and adaptor package on eBay for the Atrix
haha, it sounds more complicated than it actually is
just remember that the RED cable in the micro usb cables is power, so that's the only one that needs cutting. What I did was:
1. cut the usb cable in half
2. strip a little bit of the non-RED cables and twisted them together.
3. use electrical tape to cover each of the re-attached cables.
4. pull the red leads back onto the black sheathe
5. use electrical tape to go over the junction between the 2 halves of the cable.
All of the other components are things that are easy to order online, Amazon.
ycavan said:
haha, it sounds more complicated than it actually is
just remember that the RED cable in the micro usb cables is power, so that's the only one that needs cutting. What I did was:
1. cut the usb cable in half
2. strip a little bit of the non-RED cables and twisted them together.
3. use electrical tape to cover each of the re-attached cables.
4. pull the red leads back onto the black sheathe
5. use electrical tape to go over the junction between the 2 halves of the cable.
All of the other components are things that are easy to order online, Amazon.
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Okay I'll order cables and have a go!
Please confirm the 3rd item in your list is a micro hdmi female to micro hdmi female as elsewhere I have seen micro female to standard female. Thanks
jah said:
Okay I'll order cables and have a go!
Please confirm the 3rd item in your list is a micro hdmi female to micro hdmi female as elsewhere I have seen micro female to standard female. Thanks
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Yes, I use a micro hdmi female to female adapter for my micro hdmi male to normal hdmi male cable.
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My take on these DeX apps is straightforward: they’re not great. If you just use them for simple tasks like texting, copying and pasting small bits of text, or dragging and dropping a file or two, it’s fine. Pushing any harder than that is likely to be a recipe for sorrow, however, as things tend to get laggy pretty quickly. I think that’s more the fault of the desktop software than the phone’s hardware, but regardless, it’s slightly disappointing.
I don’t think that’s a reason to avoid buying the Note 10, which is still an excellent phone. But the experience did get me thinking: why did I and so many others have the objectively irrational hope that DeX would unlock new ways of interacting with your phone?
I think it’s because the idea of making a sole computer sits right next to flying cars in the “this is what the future will be” section of our collective unconsciousness.
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My take on these DeX apps is straightforward: they’re not great. If you just use them for simple tasks like texting, copying and pasting small bits of text, or dragging and dropping a file or two, it’s fine. Pushing any harder than that is likely to be a recipe for sorrow, however, as things tend to get laggy pretty quickly. I think that’s more the fault of the desktop software than the phone’s hardware, but regardless, it’s slightly disappointing.
I don’t think that’s a reason to avoid buying the Note 10, which is still an excellent phone. But the experience did get me thinking: why did I and so many others have the objectively irrational hope that DeX would unlock new ways of interacting with your phone?
I think it’s because the idea of making a sole computer sits right next to flying cars in the “this is what the future will be” section of our collective unconsciousness.
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Also if you can run DeX well on a lapdock, you may not need a Samsung Tab S6!.
alexhalessays said:
My take on these DeX apps is straightforward: they’re not great. If you just use them for simple tasks like texting, copying and pasting small bits of text, or dragging and dropping a file or two, it’s fine. Pushing any harder than that is likely to be a recipe for sorrow, however, as things tend to get laggy pretty quickly. I think that’s more the fault of the desktop software than the phone’s hardware, but regardless, it’s slightly disappointing.
I don’t think that’s a reason to avoid buying the Note 10, which is still an excellent phone. But the experience did get me thinking: why did I and so many others have the objectively irrational hope that DeX would unlock new ways of interacting with your phone?
I think it’s because the idea of making a sole computer sits right next to flying cars in the “this is what the future will be” section of our collective unconsciousness.
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I use DeX with my lapdock instead of my "real" laptop a lot of the time. My emails are on my phone, contacts are on my phone, pretty much all of the gaming apps I use are on my phone. The only time I ever really need my laptop is to play high end games that aren't ported to Android. Now, if only LoD would come out for the note10... :/
Does the Note 10 support the old 1366x768 resolution on the Atrix Lapdock? I remember getting it going on my Note 8 and it's not a supported resolution leading to really unusable low-res blocky everything on the screen.
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Does the Note 10 support the old 1366x768 resolution on the Atrix Lapdock? I remember getting it going on my Note 8 and it's not a supported resolution leading to really unusable low-res blocky everything on the screen.
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Yup.
Okay, managed to get my old Motorola Atrix working with my Note 10+. Took a different route to the one described above as the female to female couplers are not easy to source. So I used the Rasberry PI cables for the Atrix and my Samsung Note 8 Dex hub, which was free with the Note 8. But I have to use a BT mouse. Otherwise a good solution. But I would recommend the HP Elite X3 lapdock instead if there is not much a price difference on eBay.
ycavan said:
Here's to let everyone know that dex on the Note 10 works with the old Atrix lapdock very well
In case anyone has one lying around and wants to see it in action, you would want the following accessories:
1. USB-C to HDMI adapter ( I opted for 1 with HDMI, USB 3.0 & USB-C in for power )
2. micro HDMI to HDMI cable
3. Female micro HDMI to Female micro HDMI adapter
Optional:
1. Modified USB A to micro USB cable ( more on this later )
2. Female micro USB to Female micro USB adapter
3. USB Cable + Charger to charge your phone
If all you want is to bring up dex on your lapdock, all you need are the HDMI connectors. You will want to use a Bluetooth keyboard & mouse to navigate dex and will not be able to charge your phone.
Going 1 step further, you can use a multi-function USB-C adapter with HDMI, USB OTG & USB in for power.
Here, you would modify a usb cable to give you access to the lapdock keyboard & mousepad. The lapdock was designed to be an all-in-one setup with the Atrix phone, so the 10 hour battery could also charge the Atrix. <-- That's our problem. So you will need to snip the RED wire in the usb cable to prevent the lapdock from potentially frying your phone or other devices.
Theoretically, you can charge the phone using the 2 usb ports on the back of the lapdock, but it's a trickle effect. It'll take forever and you won't be happy. I did it in a pinch & running any applications under dex still consumed my phone's battery. Plugging it into a charger, though, kept my phone @ 100%.
A big caveat here is the mousepad is NOT multitouch, so I still used my bluetooth mouse for the scroll wheel.
Here's where this becomes a lot of fun... the lapdock screen is great for running emulators in a decent window. I plugged in my shield gamepad with a usb cable into the back of my lapdock and was able to play pretty much anything I wanted to. Still plugged into an outlet kept the phone @ 100% while emulating 100%+ speeds.
The larger screen is also very nice for streaming tv/movies.
There is an option in the Dex control panel to output audio through the HDMI cable, so you aren't relying on your phone for audio.
Anyway, if you have one of these gems lying around, it's a great way to extend the value of this phone.
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ycavan said:
Here's to let everyone know that dex on the Note 10 works with the old Atrix lapdock very well
In case anyone has one lying around and wants to see it in action, you would want the following accessories:
1. USB-C to HDMI adapter ( I opted for 1 with HDMI, USB 3.0 & USB-C in for power )
2. micro HDMI to HDMI cable
3. Female micro HDMI to Female micro HDMI adapter
Optional:
1. Modified USB A to micro USB cable ( more on this later )
2. Female micro USB to Female micro USB adapter
3. USB Cable + Charger to charge your phone
If all you want is to bring up dex on your lapdock, all you need are the HDMI connectors. You will want to use a Bluetooth keyboard & mouse to navigate dex and will not be able to charge your phone.
Going 1 step further, you can use a multi-function USB-C adapter with HDMI, USB OTG & USB in for power.
Here, you would modify a usb cable to give you access to the lapdock keyboard & mousepad. The lapdock was designed to be an all-in-one setup with the Atrix phone, so the 10 hour battery could also charge the Atrix. <-- That's our problem. So you will need to snip the RED wire in the usb cable to prevent the lapdock from potentially frying your phone or other devices.
Theoretically, you can charge the phone using the 2 usb ports on the back of the lapdock, but it's a trickle effect. It'll take forever and you won't be happy. I did it in a pinch & running any applications under dex still consumed my phone's battery. Plugging it into a charger, though, kept my phone @ 100%.
A big caveat here is the mousepad is NOT multitouch, so I still used my bluetooth mouse for the scroll wheel.
Here's where this becomes a lot of fun... the lapdock screen is great for running emulators in a decent window. I plugged in my shield gamepad with a usb cable into the back of my lapdock and was able to play pretty much anything I wanted to. Still plugged into an outlet kept the phone @ 100% while emulating 100%+ speeds.
The larger screen is also very nice for streaming tv/movies.
There is an option in the Dex control panel to output audio through the HDMI cable, so you aren't relying on your phone for audio.
Anyway, if you have one of these gems lying around, it's a great way to extend the value of this phone.
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Hi, I'm trying to do the same. I've got a Note 10+ hooked up to my old Atrix lapdock. Note goes to a multiport adapter. From the adapter's USB-A output, I ran a cable to the lapdock's micro-USB. From the adapter's HDMI out, I ran a cable to the lapdock's mini-HDMI. With that, I can use the lapdock's screen but no keyboard or trackpad.
I ran a cable from the adapter's USB-C to one of the lapdock's rear USB ports, after snipping the red wire, but still no kb/m. The phone does charge like this though.
What have I done wrong? TIA.
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The USB cable going to the micro-USB port on the lapdock needs to have the red cable snipped. What I did was to snip the red cable and pull both snipped ends back, then use a bit of electrical tape to cover that part of the wire so the snipped ends don't accidentally touch anything.
The USB cable(s) going to the rear of the lapdock are fine unmodified.
Dude/Dudette thank you so much!!! It's only because I came across your thread here that I decided to try and resurrect my trusty old lapdock, and now it works perfectly!
Thanks for replying so quickly. I modified the wrong cable - snipped the red wire on the USB cable running to the rear USB-A port. Doh!
ycavan said:
The USB cable going to the micro-USB port on the lapdock needs to have the red cable snipped. What I did was to snip the red cable and pull both snipped ends back, then use a bit of electrical tape to cover that part of the wire so the snipped ends don't accidentally touch anything.
The USB cable(s) going to the rear of the lapdock are fine unmodified.
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