What Mi Max Variant to Buy? - Xiaomi Mi Max Questions & Answers

I want to buy the 128GB with 4GB RAM version but I hear it's less supported by roms.
Can this version be unlocked and rooted?
How is it less supported? Will the available roms for MI Max not work for it?
What is Helium and Hydrogen? I can't find enough info on both. Can a 128 version be either hydrogen or helium? I'm confused
Which should I buy? 32, 64 or 128? What's the advantage?
Storage really don't matter to me. I just want the 1GB RAM Upgrade. But depending on how it's less supported I may opt just to get a 3GB.
Thank you

All versions can be unlocked and rooted and have ROM support.
The most flexible is the 32 gb version, has international developer and Chinese version original Miui support. Rest do not.
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Thank you badrsj. Too bad there's no international for the 128

kurodoll said:
Too bad there's no international for the 128
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Because 128GB model is not internationally released, only china (so they have chinese, that's how Xiaomi operates) I'm sure once it releases internationally (they have announced official release in India, waiting for it) Xiaomi will release the firmware (ROM) also.
Hydrogen = ROM 16GB / 2GB RAM or 32GB / 3GB Snapdragon 650
Helium = ROM 64GB/ 3GB RAM or 128GB / 4GB Snapdragon 652

All is not lost
After buying the 64/3 (before I knew 32/3 had more support)
I installed the China developer ROM, original Miui release, stock.
Added Google services via Google installer, gave permissions to access whatever and auto start as needed. I have a good working stock google device with minimal Chinese apps, cause you can uninstall most. So it's doable at virtually any model.
But that doesn't mean there's better international and developer support, still get errors here and there.
One additional way to go is Miui.eu large robust unofficial community releases firmware, but it's not stock official.
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kurodoll said:
. Too bad there's no international for the 128
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I have the 4/128 version which is Helium, and as mentioned earlier official roms there is not much international roms yet, just China dev and China stable.
But, there are some other roms available to use: (which all have all bloatware, chinese items removed, and google apps integrated)
- Xiaomi.eu roms (beta & stable)
- multirom.me roms (beta & stable)
- ajsmsg78's Resurrection Remix 5.7.3 and Global rom
I have bootloader unlocked, and use Xiaomi.eu roms

thank you guys. Ill go fro the 128/4 model then

dj69holland said:
I have the 4/128 version which is Helium, and as mentioned earlier official roms there is not much international roms yet, just China dev and China stable.
But, there are some other roms available to use: (which all have all bloatware, chinese items removed, and google apps integrated)
- Xiaomi.eu roms (beta & stable)
- multirom.me roms (beta & stable)
- ajsmsg78's Resurrection Remix 5.7.3 and Global rom
I have bootloader unlocked, and use Xiaomi.eu roms
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About Xiaomi eu roms
Which ones get updated OTA
Stable or developer?
I'm interested in comparison with official Xiaomi ROM
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Some comments about versions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3453991
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badrsj said:
About Xiaomi eu roms
Which ones get updated OTA
Stable or developer?
I'm interested in comparison with official Xiaomi ROM
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For Xiaomi.eu roms, both stable and beta get OTA updates, but on their site they mention that for Dev Beta, they are only pushing OTA once a month, weekly updates can be manually downloaded and updated via About Phone -> system update - > 3dotMenu -> Choose update package...
about comparison of xiaomi.eu vs official rom: in short the base is taken from official rom BUT it is bloat-free, internationalized, tweaks, etc
i suggest to read more on their website.

dj69holland said:
For Xiaomi.eu roms, both stable and beta get OTA updates, but on their site they mention that for Dev Beta, they are only pushing OTA once a month, weekly updates can be manually downloaded and updated via About Phone -> system update - > 3dotMenu -> Choose update package...
about comparison of xiaomi.eu vs official rom: in short the base is taken from official rom BUT it is bloat-free, internationalized, tweaks, etc
i suggest to read more on their website.
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Thanks
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Related

NO US Location.

So I got this phone from "Gear Best" - it's the 64 gig version running ROM MIUI Global 7.4 Stable 7.4.16.0 (MBDCNDE)
Is this a european rom cause it does not have USA as a location in it.
Furthermore - where is the links for European Firmware - anyone know that?
badrsj said:
So I got this phone from "Gear Best" - it's the 64 gig version running ROM MIUI Global 7.4 Stable 7.4.16.0 (MBDCNDE)
Is this a european rom cause it does not have USA as a location in it.
Furthermore - where is the links for European Firmware - anyone know that?
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If you want MIUI then check out the unofficial Xiaomi.eu global ROM...
Or you can flash CM13 and be happy...
badrsj said:
So I got this phone from "Gear Best" - it's the 64 gig version running ROM MIUI Global 7.4 Stable 7.4.16.0 (MBDCNDE)
Is this a european rom cause it does not have USA as a location in it.
Furthermore - where is the links for European Firmware - anyone know that?
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Since you got it from Gearbest, you have an unofficial MIUI ROM. There is no stable global ROM yet available for the Mi Max.
You'll have to unlock your bootloader and flash the official global dev ROM or I think you could use EDL and Mi Flash to install the ROM and keep your bootloader locked.
The global dev ROM does have the US as an option for your locale. To be honest, it really doesn't do much when you set your locale. When I was using the global dev ROM before, US wasn't an option and I ended up just using Hong Kong as my locale. Since Xiaomi added US, I haven't noticed any difference.
Also, I don't think the global dev ROM is available for the 64gb version yet.
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mi5s last update?

What is the last update of mi5s model 4gb ram and 32 gb rom??
mohamed.magdy said:
What is the last update of mi5s model 4gb ram and 32 gb rom??
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About phone
I don't have it but I read that ota 8.5.3 is out.
That looks like a shop rom, should have updated to 8.2 at least by now.
mohamed.magdy said:
About phone
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You have fake ROM, latest is 8.5.3.0 Global Stable ( Global Developer also support Mi 5S, but I don't remember latest version, you can find it on MIUI forum ).
Indeed fake rom.
Original ROMs are in the version numbering x.x.x.x (like the new 8.5.3.0), yours has x.x.x.x.x (five numbers). That is clearly a fake one.

[Q] I have a mountain of questions before I decide to buy this phone :)

Hello everyone,
I have got a mountain of questions that arised from reading the forum and a lot of different topics.
I'll have numbers on them, so if you can/want to only answer a few of them you can refer to the number.
1. I've read about this ARB quite a lot, what's the deal with that if I want to go to a custom rom?
2. I understood that it matters where to buy the device in terms of an unlocked bootloader (TradingShenzen seems like a good place to start). But if I can't get my hands on a phone with unlocked bootloader, can I unlock it myself?
3. I'd like to go with the xiaomi.eu rom, any advice on how to get there? What I mean is, should I choose a CN model or is a Global model better, does it matter? What steps to take regarding TWRP and avoiding ARB, etc.
4. What does GSI stand for? I haven't found any thread explaining what that means, and I'm quite new to xiaomi devices (would be my first one).
5. I've also seen that there are quite a few different variants of this device, do the roms for it just work on all of them or do I need to check if the model is supported? (That seems to be a bit different to other phone vendors)
That's it for now, please don't kill me if some of the things have been answered before, I haven't found an answer to the questions so far (the infos that I got so far were insufficient)
Cheers,
Zacki
1 Google introduced ARB, a safeguard to not create an older version of the system from the currently released. If you install the official older version of the system for a new one, you will wall your phone.
Does not apply to Custom ROM
2 You can unblock the bootloader yourself on the official xiaomi website. It takes about 300 hours
3 unlock the bootloader, install recovery, install xiaomi.eu. Global rom is more stable, but xiaomi.eu has more personalization options. Recently, xiaomi.eu does not cause problems on Mi Max3, but it causes problems on other models.
4 GSI https://source.android.com/setup/build/gsi
5 Mi Max3 Global 4gb RAM 64gb internal memory,
Mi Max China 6gb RAM 128gb internal memory
You can install the Global ROM on the china version if you have unlocked the boootloader, and remember about the ARB. Otherwise, you will wall your phone
The Global version is popular.
Bartos81 said:
1 Google introduced ARB, a safeguard to not create an older version of the system from the currently released. If you install the official older version of the system for a new one, you will wall your phone.
Does not apply to Custom ROM
2 You can unblock the bootloader yourself on the official xiaomi website. It takes about 300 hours
3 unlock the bootloader, install recovery, install xiaomi.eu. Global rom is more stable, but xiaomi.eu has more personalization options. Recently, xiaomi.eu does not cause problems on Mi Max3, but it causes problems on other models.
4 GSI https://source.android.com/setup/build/gsi
5 Mi Max3 Global 4gb RAM 64gb internal memory,
Mi Max China 6gb RAM 128gb internal memory
You can install the Global ROM on the china version if you have unlocked the boootloader, and remember about the ARB. Otherwise, you will wall your phone
The Global version is popular.
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Thanks for your reply.
@1. Interesting to see what Google is up to with things like this...why would they want this?
@2. Thanks, but whoa that's quite some time...and I guess I can only trigger the 300h AFTER I bought the phone, right? (Why so many hours actually...?)
@3. I've read about the changes they made to the rom and I like that. But what do you mean with being "less stable" than the global rom? In what way? I'd like to use that as my daily driver if I get it (not the weekly builds of course).
@4. Will have a look, thanks :good:
@5. I was actually looking at the 6GB/128GB version of the phone, if I can convince my wife to allow me to spend ~260€ on a phone (I'm currently a student ).
In this case, I'd already have an unlocked bootloader and if I want to install the rom from xiaomi.eu, there should be no problem, right? Also regarding ARB, this should be fine, right?
And in what ways are the CN and the Global versions different other than the rom? Are there differences for the supported bands or radios? I live in Austria, can I use the CN model here without any downside?
Edit: I'm having a look at this particular model, it would be available with CN firmware or with Global firmware. Would that still account as CN model in this case?
TradingShenzhen - Mi Max 3 - 6gb-ram-128gb-rom-snapdragon-636
Cheers
Google thinks people should use the latest system because it provides better security.
Xiaomi introduced a long wait time to unlock the bootloader, because dishonest sellers offered CN versions outside of China and India by installing the Global system on it. The CN version is only for China and India.
Xiaomi.eu provides its system every week. Contains various patches and additions. Sometimes something does not work, payments, BT paired in the car, notifications etc. In my phone, the last two versions do not work Gmail notifications. In today's version, people write that OK Google is not working.
If you unlock the bootloader, you can install xiaomi.eu. The ARB will be kept at the level of the official system you had.
The CN system contains only Chinese and English. It does not offer Google Play, it also contains full Chinese software.
Version 6/128 is only a CN model. If the seller offers with the Global system, it means that he has unlocked the bootloader and installed the Global system. You naturally lose the Xiaomi warranty.
Bartos81 said:
Google thinks people should use the latest system because it provides better security.
Xiaomi introduced a long wait time to unlock the bootloader, because dishonest sellers offered CN versions outside of China and India by installing the Global system on it. The CN version is only for China and India.
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Ok got that, seems like people are trying everything to make a few bucks extra... Then it would have to be so (waiting).
Bartos81 said:
Xiaomi.eu provides its system every week. Contains various patches and additions. Sometimes something does not work, payments, BT paired in the car, notifications etc. In my phone, the last two versions do not work Gmail notifications. In today's version, people write that OK Google is not working.
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Ok that's not such a big issue, as I said. I'd stay on the "stable" builds, not the weekly ones.
Bartos81 said:
If you unlock the bootloader, you can install xiaomi.eu. The ARB will be kept at the level of the official system you had.
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So the xiaomi.eu roms don't have any of that ARB stuff, good to know. Could I technically install an older version of that custom rom without triggering the ARB or is that not possible? Just so I understand that.
And how is that with other custom roms? I've read in some threads that you have to make sure you have the correct ARB if you want to flash that particular rom, why that?
Bartos81 said:
The CN system contains only Chinese and English. It does not offer Google Play, it also contains full Chinese software.
Version 6/128 is only a CN model. If the seller offers with the Global system, it means that he has unlocked the bootloader and installed the Global system. You naturally lose the Xiaomi warranty.
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I'm not worried about the warranty but more about the specifics of the device. Is the CN model different in any way that it may not work properly with the providers in europe? Or things like that?
And sadly that vendor does not seem to have that version in stock at the moment, so I was thinking of getting the regular CN version of the device, that's why I'm asking
As for xiaomi.eu it does not contain ARB, but there are exceptions. If the phone gets an update to android 9 - xiaomi.eu must use the full original xiaomi firmware from ARB. The next versions on the same adroid no longer have files responsible for ARB.
Current level of ARB = 4 from Oreo to Pie. What you can not do:
to install MIUI9,
to install Miui Global on a CN version phone with a locked bootloader
block in the bootloader if you have Miui Global on your CN
install Miui China on a Global phone and block the bootloader.
Custom GSI roms do not have an ARB, you can install anything.
Mi Max 3 in the CN version in addition to the system and memory does not differ from the specification from Global. Will work in Austria.
Bartos81 said:
As for xiaomi.eu it does not contain ARB, but there are exceptions. If the phone gets an update to android 9 - xiaomi.eu must use the full original xiaomi firmware from ARB. The next versions on the same adroid no longer have files responsible for ARB.
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So if I get the phone with Android 8.1 and I want to get MIUI 10 (Android 9) I need to update with the official rom and then flash the xiaomi.eu rom?
And while we are at that, if I buy the CN variant, do I have to upgrade to PIE with the CN official rom or can I also do this with the Global rom to get ARB to 4?
And what't the deal with the developer versions of the original roms? I've read something about them but would that help me in any way?
Found that website in another thread: Link
Bartos81 said:
Current level of ARB = 4 from Oreo to Pie. What you can not do:
to install MIUI9,
to install Miui Global on a CN version phone with a locked bootloader
block in the bootloader if you have Miui Global on your CN
install Miui China on a Global phone and block the bootloader.
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Ok but once the bootloader is open, why relock it anyway?^^ And I've read that on the xiaomi.eu roms you can not accidentaly relock the bootloader.
Bartos81 said:
Custom GSI roms do not have an ARB, you can install anything.
Mi Max 3 in the CN version in addition to the system and memory does not differ from the specification from Global. Will work in Austria.
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Working in Austria sounds good, but what exactly do you mean with "in addition to system and memory". The system and memory are different in the two versions and the rest is the same? Is there anything I should be aware of while using the phone?
Oh and by the way, thank you for answering all my questions
So if I get the phone with Android 8.1 and I want to get MIUI 10 (Android 9) I need to update with the official rom and then flash the xiaomi.eu rom?
And while we are at that, if I buy the CN variant, do I have to upgrade to PIE with the CN official rom or can I also do this with the Global rom to get ARB to 4?
And what't the deal with the developer versions of the original roms? I've read something about them but would that help me in any way?
Found that website in another thread: Link
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it's not like that. You do not need to update the system. Xiaomi.eu is built with miui china developer extended to additional language translations, optimizations of softu for Europeans and a few additions that occur only in the Chinese version of the miui.
The whole system, firmware and kernel is miui china. If you install xiaomi.eu then you install the entire system, with the firmware and kernel. They are suitable for the android version.
You can have miui global Oreo and install xiaomi.eu Pie. Everything will be updated.
Miui Global is available in Stable and Dev versions. Dev-Beta is a development version released every week, contains the latest security, system fixes and errors detected in the Stable version, as well as new additions that are tested and do not always have to work correctly (like the development version of xiaomi.eu). As developers will correct detected errors, the stable version is created.
I just installed myself Global dev. I like it more than xiaomi.eu. Everything works so far. I usually use Global dev, and xiaomi.eu tests once in a while.
Ok but once the bootloader is open, why relock it anyway?^^ And I've read that on the xiaomi.eu roms you can not accidentaly relock the bootloader.
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Some block the bootloader from ignorance or inadvertently.
When installing a new ROM by MiFlash, you have the following options:
install and block the bootloader (by default selected)
clean everything and install
save data and install
Working in Austria sounds good, but what exactly do you mean with "in addition to system and memory". The system and memory are different in the two versions and the rest is the same? Is there anything I should be aware of while using the phone?
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the parameters of the telephone accessories and the frequency ranges of the network are the same. The difference is 6gb RAM, 128gb Internal memory and MIUI china.
Bartos81 said:
it's not like that. You do not need to update the system. Xiaomi.eu is built with miui china developer extended to additional language translations, optimizations of softu for Europeans and a few additions that occur only in the Chinese version of the miui.
The whole system, firmware and kernel is miui china. If you install xiaomi.eu then you install the entire system, with the firmware and kernel. They are suitable for the android version.
You can have miui global Oreo and install xiaomi.eu Pie. Everything will be updated.
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Ok sounds good, so if I want to go for the xiaomi.eu rom, I can just go ahead an flash that thing and I'm good, that's what I understood. Is that correct?
Bartos81 said:
Miui Global is available in Stable and Dev versions. Dev-Beta is a development version released every week, contains the latest security, system fixes and errors detected in the Stable version, as well as new additions that are tested and do not always have to work correctly (like the development version of xiaomi.eu). As developers will correct detected errors, the stable version is created.
I just installed myself Global dev. I like it more than xiaomi.eu. Everything works so far. I usually use Global dev, and xiaomi.eu tests once in a while..
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Interesting, because I've read somewhere that the normal and the dev version are more or less the same, just that you have to use the dev version in certain situations to "unbrick" because of something with the bootloader (but I don't actually remember the details).
Bartos81 said:
Some block the bootloader from ignorance or inadvertently.
When installing a new ROM by MiFlash, you have the following options:
install and block the bootloader (by default selected)
clean everything and install
save data and install
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I've also read about that tool, is it required to flash roms or can I do that via TWRP? And why would such an option be selected by default...? I've already seen someone brick his device because of that
Bartos81 said:
the parameters of the telephone accessories and the frequency ranges of the network are the same. The difference is 6gb RAM, 128gb Internal memory and MIUI china.
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Ok got that, and the MIUI china doesn't really matter once I'm on the xiaomi.eu rom.
Good, I think I might actually see that I can get the cash together and order the phone Getting excited now.
Any resources I should read before I might do something stupid?
If you have an unlocked bootloader then you install twrp and flash xiaomi.eu
Interesting, because I've read somewhere that the normal and the dev version are more or less the same, just that you have to use the dev version in certain situations to "unbrick" because of something with the bootloader (but I don't actually remember the details).
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Using dev to unlock the bootloader affected old phones. Currently, it does not matter. Rom useful as well as Stable.
I've also read about that tool, is it required to flash roms or can I do that via TWRP? And why would such an option be selected by default...? I've already seen someone brick his device because of that
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Miflash is used to install only official miui Rom, you use the rom .Tgz package
It installs through Miflash with the cleaning option. It does not leave garbage in the old system.
Ok got that, and the MIUI china doesn't really matter once I'm on the xiaomi.eu rom.
Good, I think I might actually see that I can get the cash together and order the phone Getting excited now.
Any resources I should read before I might do something stupid?
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If you have xiaomi.eu then china rom does not matter.
You can look for a seller who offers a phone with downloaded xiaomi.eu or miui global - to choose from
in the past, the sellers offered the china version.
Bartos81 said:
If you have an unlocked bootloader then you install twrp and flash xiaomi.eu
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So last question for now (I hope ), if I decide to get the EU version instead, can I still unlock the bootloader or is that only possible on the CN versions?
you can in any xiaomi
Bartos81 said:
You can unblock the bootloader yourself on the official xiaomi website. It takes about 300 hours
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I've just read in another thread that it is 720 hours that's full 30 days... I hope it's more the 300 hours you said but I fear I might have to wait a full month for that...
Can anyone confirm this number of hours?
Cheers
Usually it is 720 hours, but I checked it every now and then, after 4 days, this time has decreased by half.
It's 100% not decreased or changed it 720 hours. Unless you had a mi account before an unlocked a phone
techdeisel said:
It's 100% not decreased or changed it 720 hours. Unless you had a mi account before an unlocked a phone
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That is an interesting note. I created an account a few days ago, when I ordered the phone. Does this already count as "having an account before trying to unlock"?

Latest MIUI version? - is Xiaomi.EU good?

Well, i recently bought this phone, already applied to unlock bootloader but i have to wait a week, so in the meantime i'm learning about roms based on xiaomi and custom roms...
My main concern is, i'm running MIUI Global 11.0.3 | Stable | 11.0.3(PCOIDXM) with security patch from 2020-01-01. I saw other guys with newers MIUI versions than mine, so i found about Xiaomi.EU, i read it is the best MIUI rom but i would like to get some recommendations...
Also, my main objective is to get an stable rom with good battery usage, having root and maybe install xposed with magisk but this last is not that important.
I 'm also confused about if when i charge Xiaomi EU to my phone will it keep receiving OTA? or what should i do in case i want to go back and be able to receive OTA?
Las question is, i found this site https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/20-3-19.54975/ and the last version is xiaomi.eu_multi_HMNote8_20.3.19_v11-9.zip, is it compatible with all variants of Xiaomi RN8?, i found that there are 2 RN8 versions, a Global Version and an Indonesian version, comparing MIUI version i think i have and indonesian version, does the variant is important in case i want to use xiaomi eu?
Ohh, i see a did a lot of question but i post this in the hope that you guys can help this newbie to tweak his RN8
ErikEBZ said:
Well, i recently bought this phone, already applied to unlock bootloader but i have to wait a week, so in the meantime i'm learning about roms based on xiaomi and custom roms...
My main concern is, i'm running MIUI Global 11.0.3 | Stable | 11.0.3(PCOIDXM) with security patch from 2020-01-01. I saw other guys with newers MIUI versions than mine, so i found about Xiaomi.EU, i read it is the best MIUI rom but i would like to get some recommendations...
Also, my main objective is to get an stable rom with good battery usage, having root and maybe install xposed with magisk but this last is not that important.
I 'm also confused about if when i charge Xiaomi EU to my phone will it keep receiving OTA? or what should i do in case i want to go back and be able to receive OTA?
Las question is, i found this site https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/20-3-19.54975/ and the last version is xiaomi.eu_multi_HMNote8_20.3.19_v11-9.zip, is it compatible with all variants of Xiaomi RN8?, i found that there are 2 RN8 versions, a Global Version and an Indonesian version, comparing MIUI version i think i have and indonesian version, does the variant is important in case i want to use xiaomi eu?
Ohh, i see a did a lot of question but i post this in the hope that you guys can help this newbie to tweak his RN8
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Actually RN8 has not 2 but 4 versions; Global, Chinese, Indonesian and Indian.
You can use it on any RN8 unlocked version no matter regions, it's set to global.
Since years I'm using Xiaomi.eu ROMs and over other MIUI based ROMs it's way better, great battery performance.
This ROM ever has the latest security patch updates cause is built over the Chinese version.
And regarding OTA updates; Xiaomi.eu ROMs have weekly updates.
What about the Dialer and Messaging apps? Is it the stock MIUI one or the Google ones?
SubwayChamp said:
Actually RN8 has not 2 but 4 versions; Global, Chinese, Indonesian and Indian.
You can use it on any RN8 unlocked version no matter regions, it's set to global.
Since years I'm using Xiaomi.eu ROMs and over other MIUI based ROMs it's way better, great battery performance.
This ROM ever has the latest security patch updates cause is built over the Chinese version.
And regarding OTA updates; Xiaomi.eu ROMs have weekly updates.
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honestly it doesn't have the latest security patch versions....they use old ones and advertise newest....latest beta version for example use security patches from September and they change it in build.prop so that in phone settings it says latest march/april whatever security patch...following are the two lines :
Code:
ro.build.version.security_patch=
ro.build.version.security_patch_real=
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ElIT3ShOOT3R said:
What about the Dialer and Messaging apps? Is it the stock MIUI one or the Google ones?
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It has miui stock ones..except willow(redmi note 8T) as it doesn't have china builds....hence 8t has google ones
the_weird_aquarian said:
honestly it doesn't have the latest security patch versions....they use old ones and advertise newest....latest beta version for example use security patches from September and they change it in build.prop so that in phone settings it says latest march/april whatever security patch...following are the two lines :
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I didn't mind that they do that, I would expect from other non reliable site to do such bad practice, many people trust in their. I didn't check from the other ROMs that are based on their too, eg., Mi Globe, etc. Let me ask you how do you know or you have some source regarding to share with us?
SubwayChamp said:
I didn't mind that they do that, I would expect from other non reliable site to do such bad practice, many people trust in their. I didn't check from the other ROMs that are based on their too, eg., Mi Globe, etc. Let me ask you how do you know or you have some source regarding to share with us?
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I know because I'm using EU beta myself..so my source which is me..is never wrong..I don't trust other websites etc too...other miui roms like miui mix,minovo,mi room etc are all built on EU so they have the same thing..old security patch..advertised as new one.
the_weird_aquarian said:
It has miui stock ones..except willow(redmi note 8T) as it doesn't have china builds....hence 8t has google ones
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Apart from the weekly securtiy patches, is it any better than the indian rom (11.0.3) for the note 8?
Secondly, is the Indian version really behind in software updates from the global version (in terms of changes and security patches) or is it just the numbering of the versions different?
ElIT3ShOOT3R said:
Apart from the weekly securtiy patches, is it any better than the indian rom (11.0.3) for the note 8?
Secondly, is the Indian version really behind in software updates from the global version (in terms of changes and security patches) or is it just the numbering of the versions different?
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Well like I mentioned in my previous replies, you won't get any weekly patches or monthly patches for that matter...EU uses september security patch and changes build.prop so that it appears latest in phone settings...among other things it is better than stock rom (indian,global,etc etc) as it's debloated,optimized,deodexed and tweaked a lil bit..also it has all features included in china roms every week so that is cool...it also has all ads removed...although I debloat more..sure you can debloat and do everything else on your indian rom too but you have to wait for stable builds for long and you gotta repeat the debloating all over again everytime you update...
regarding difference between indian and global...mainly it is the miui apps on indian rom and google apps on global..also a bit of themes and stuff on indian and wifi calling on global...rest it's all same....don't go on the numbering of versions too much...it's all the same with a bit of this and that difference like I said.
the_weird_aquarian said:
Well like I mentioned in my previous replies, you won't get any weekly patches or monthly patches for that matter...EU uses september security patch and changes build.prop so that it appears latest in phone settings...among other things it is better than stock rom (indian,global,etc etc) as it's debloated,optimized,deodexed and tweaked a lil bit..also it has all features included in china roms every week so that is cool...it also has all ads removed...although I debloat more..sure you can debloat and do everything else on your indian rom too but you have to wait for stable builds for long and you gotta repeat the debloating all over again everytime you update...
regarding difference between indian and global...mainly it is the miui apps on indian rom and google apps on global..also a bit of themes and stuff on indian and wifi calling on global...rest it's all same....don't go on the numbering of versions too much...it's all the same with a bit of this and that difference like I said.
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Thanks for the detailed explanation man!
Wow, thanks you all for replying!
the_weird_aquarian said:
Well like I mentioned in my previous replies, you won't get any weekly patches or monthly patches for that matter...EU uses september security patch and changes build.prop so that it appears latest in phone settings...among other things it is better than stock rom (indian,global,etc etc) as it's debloated,optimized,deodexed and tweaked a lil bit..also it has all features included in china roms every week so that is cool...it also has all ads removed...although I debloat more..sure you can debloat and do everything else on your indian rom too but you have to wait for stable builds for long and you gotta repeat the debloating all over again everytime you update...
regarding difference between indian and global...mainly it is the miui apps on indian rom and google apps on global..also a bit of themes and stuff on indian and wifi calling on global...rest it's all same....don't go on the numbering of versions too much...it's all the same with a bit of this and that difference like I said.
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Apart xiaomi.eu are there other ROMs that are a way better than global and have really updated security patches?
Sent with Redmi Note 8t
TapaSte said:
Apart xiaomi.eu are there other ROMs that are a way better than global and have really updated security patches?
Sent with Redmi Note 8t
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Here's the thing..Most miui custom roms like miui mix,minovo,miroom etc etc are all based on eu so they don't have updated security patches....try aosp based roms or stick to stock roms if you really want updated security patches..
i like miui eu
the_weird_aquarian said:
Here's the thing..Most miui custom roms like miui mix,minovo,miroom etc etc are all based on eu so they don't have updated security patches....try aosp based roms or stick to stock roms if you really want updated security patches..
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Thanks... So, all considered, which is for You the best tom option for redmi note 8/8t ?
Maybe a aosp based one ?
rn8t
what about GLOBE ROM ?
mauecky said:
what about GLOBE ROM ?
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Global rom (stock) is... not so good.
rn8t
You guys should go for miglobe.com rom. Based in miui.eu with cuztomizations to be baked in the rom that you can choose by yourself. Really cool!
TapaSte said:
Global rom (stock) is... not so good.
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im talking about
https://mi-globe.com/miui-firmware-rom-builder/
shortiz69 said:
You guys should go for miglobe.com rom. Based in miui.eu with cuztomizations to be baked in the rom that you can choose by yourself. Really cool!
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Do you refer to global mi instead global eea (that is stock in EU)?
rn8t
mauecky said:
im talking about
https://mi-globe.com/miui-firmware-rom-builder/
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Can confirm this ROM is better than the stock. But don't build it with magisk, it bootlooped for me, just flash it after. The beta seems to have new features to, such as when installing apps, you get options to clear cache or delete the APK file if it's sideloaded. You also need orangefox recovery, didn't work with twrp when I tried.

Open beta general help

Hi. So I'm a new op7t owner and came from the op5, I'm familiar with stable and open beta versions on the op5 but this is not the same on the op7t. I have attached my info screen which is the version the phone came with so it may help to answer my questions,
When I try to install the open beta 2 from the official op pages it's saying the open beta 2 is a downgrade so I can't do this... however there is no ob3 or ob4 for me to install on the official web !!
Ob2 is the only version download available and also the stable version on the official op is an older version too to what I have now.
How am I supposed to switch over to the beta when it's only showing ob2 and Where are the ob3/4 versions ?
Very confusing compared to how easy switching from beta to stable and vice versa was on the one plus 5 !
Any help is appreciated ?
Regards
Slymobi said:
Hi. So I'm a new op7t owner and came from the op5, I'm familiar with stable and open beta versions on the op5 but this is not the same on the op7t. I have attached my info screen which is the version the phone came with so it may help to answer my questions,
When I try to install the open beta 2 from the official op pages it's saying the open beta 2 is a downgrade so I can't do this... however there is no ob3 or ob4 for me to install on the official web !!
Ob2 is the only version download available and also the stable version on the official op is an older version too to what I have now.
How am I supposed to switch over to the beta when it's only showing ob2 and Where are the ob3/4 versions ?
Very confusing compared to how easy switching from beta to stable and vice versa was on the one plus 5 !
Any help is appreciated
Regards
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Take the oxygen updater from playstore.
Kollachi said:
Take the oxygen updater from playstore.
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Thanks for responding, is this an official updater from OnePlus ? Excuse my ignorance but why would this be any better than the official oneplus software update pages ?
Thanks
The issue is that you have an EU handset likely with EU firmware if you haven't messed around with it yet.
For whatever reason EU updates are pulled back and regularly get behind the global and Indian versions.
I have absolutely no idea of whether there are issues introduced by flashing global firmware but I have had to do so today in order to get to beta 4.
So you have to download Oxygen Updater, go to advanced settings and change your phone to Oneplus 7t (not EU - this will switch to global), switch download option to full beta, download it and flash it as a local update.
There is absolutely no documentation or answers from OnePlus regarding the differences between firmware versions from what I can see.. only speculation from those whom have delved into the update packages and users whom have noticed subtle differences.
Long story short, if you want to try the betas you're better off switching to global at the moment.
Slymobi said:
Thanks for responding, is this an official updater from OnePlus ? Excuse my ignorance but why would this be any better than the official oneplus software update pages ?
Thanks
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I don't know why they don't update their website. I guess the easiest way is the updater app.
Thanks for the replies, very helpful. I just can't understand how I'm on a higher version that is actually listed in the UK official support upgrades pages !
Because the website for whatever reason hasn't been updated.
The latest stable EU release on the website seems to be 10.0.7, where in fact your device should have done an ota update to 10.0.9 out of the box. You also can't install Beta 2 that's listed on the site as it's older than 10.0.9
As suggested, Oxygen Updater is the best way to see what updates are actually available and the global firmware is the only one that seems to be updated regularly atm.
It's not an official OnePlus tool but the firmware is referenced and downloaded from OnePlus servers.
mmotti said:
The issue is that you have an EU handset likely with EU firmware if you haven't messed around with it yet.
For whatever reason EU updates are pulled back and regularly get behind the global and Indian versions.
I have absolutely no idea of whether there are issues introduced by flashing global firmware but I have had to do so today in order to get to beta 4.
So you have to download Oxygen Updater, go to advanced settings and change your phone to Oneplus 7t (not EU - this will switch to global), switch download option to full beta, download it and flash it as a local update.
There is absolutely no documentation or answers from OnePlus regarding the differences between firmware versions from what I can see.. only speculation from those whom have delved into the update packages and users whom have noticed subtle differences.
Long story short, if you want to try the betas you're better off switching to global at the moment.
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Not corrrect..... I have an EU version and OB 4 is available through official updates so no need to convertt to Global at all.
Not on my official webpage !! Open beta 2 is the only option.
biohaz55 said:
Not corrrect..... I have an EU version and OB 4 is available through official updates so no need to convertt to Global at all.
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Your about phone is slightly different to mine too !
biohaz55 said:
Not corrrect..... I have an EU version and OB 4 is available through official updates so no need to convertt to Global at all.
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The Beta was available for a short time for EU and Global, and then it was pulled for both and put back up but not for EU (according to my Oxygen Updater)
https://www.xda-developers.com/onep...14-4-ambient-display-clocks-may-2020-patches/ (See update #1)
I just double checked and even through Oxygen Updater (with Advanced Mode turned on), device set to OnePlus 7T (EU), Open Beta (Full), Only Oxygen OS Open Beta 2 is available (I'm currently back on 10.0.9 EU as I didn't want to be on Global not knowing what the differences are)
Moral of the story is though that there's either inconsistencies across devices, or you received the update before it was pulled, or OnePlus are just utterly useless at update cycles... I believe the latter lol.
mmotti said:
The Beta was available for a short time for EU and Global, and then it was pulled for both and put back up but not for EU (according to my Oxygen Updater)
https://www.xda-developers.com/onep...14-4-ambient-display-clocks-may-2020-patches/ (See update #1)
I just double checked and even through Oxygen Updater (with Advanced Mode turned on), device set to OnePlus 7T (EU), Open Beta (Full), Only Oxygen OS Open Beta 2 is available (I'm currently back on 10.0.9 EU as I didn't want to be on Global not knowing what the differences are)
Moral of the story is though that there's either inconsistencies across devices, or you received the update before it was pulled, or OnePlus are just utterly useless at update cycles... I believe the latter lol.
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Haha I love that end analysis ? yeah checked the updater app and experienced the same. I'm okay with the version im on so can wait until they release a beta officially on the UK support pages to try. Again thanks for the responses along with all others that took time to reply. Appreciate it.
different to mine too ![/QUOTE]
Use oxygen updater. Did it not work?

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