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[Q] HK Software 708...Different Version? Unique Glitches?

Hello everyone. I got my One X last week. The store said it's from Hong Kong though honestly I'm not sure given the severely limited amount of information inside the package. The system languages are English and two variants of Chinese however so presumably it is indeed the HK model.
Anyway, I've been waiting for this OTA upgrade that everyone's talking about and then read something that it's only available for 40X software versions. Mine is 1.26.708.2. Does anyone else have 708?
Also are these glitches found by people with other software versions:
1. Wifi Hotspot turns off randomly.
2. The SIM is frequently "lost" and either requires complete reboot or else the machine will issue a message that it's "Preparing SIM" for a minute.
3. The music player will stop for a second and then continue while playing (this I've head from other users).
4. The screen will turn back on after you turn it off. It's almost immediate.

708 is the number for a branded version specific to HK. 401 = European generic.
All 1.26 versions are roughly the same but branding and bundled applications will differ as each operator will do it different.

Oh is that for all Android phones, for all HTC phones, or just this one in particular? Also there is no carrier branding on the phone, just the HTC logo. Or is it such that only generic European models are truly unbranded?
Also, is it true that the current OTA update is only for the European models and thus applying it to my phone either won't work or will brick it?
Thanks.

TokyoGuy said:
Oh is that for all Android phones, for all HTC phones, or just this one in particular?
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It is how HTC do it. The third number is specific to that model though. 708 will mean something else for another HTC phone.
Other manufacturers will signify different branded versions in some other fashion.
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Also there is no carrier branding on the phone, just the HTC logo.
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If you've got ADB then run "adb shell getprop ro.cid" to get the CID which identifies what branding it has.
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Or is it such that only generic European models are truly unbranded?
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No. There are generic Asian/HK and other versions as well. The generic European version is popular because it is in English and so are the majority of the users of this forum.
TokyoGuy said:
Also, is it true that the current OTA update is only for the European models and thus applying it to my phone either won't work or will brick it?
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You should only apply OTA updates that are specific to your version.

TokyoGuy said:
Hello everyone. I got my One X last week. The store said it's from Hong Kong though honestly I'm not sure given the severely limited amount of information inside the package. The system languages are English and two variants of Chinese however so presumably it is indeed the HK model.
Anyway, I've been waiting for this OTA upgrade that everyone's talking about and then read something that it's only available for 40X software versions. Mine is 1.26.708.2. Does anyone else have 708?
Also are these glitches found by people with other software versions:
1. Wifi Hotspot turns off randomly.
2. The SIM is frequently "lost" and either requires complete reboot or else the machine will issue a message that it's "Preparing SIM" for a minute.
3. The music player will stop for a second and then continue while playing (this I've head from other users).
4. The screen will turn back on after you turn it off. It's almost immediate.
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If you are interested to find out the origin of your phone, you can do so at the China HTC website. (try Google translating if you cant read chinese). Not sure why their site has the IMEI checker.
http://www.htc.com/cn/contact/#chat-online
click on the online CSO chat during operating hours and you can key in ur IMEI and serial no. It should show where ur phone is from

LG Optimus F3Q

I'd like to get one of these somehow to Europe and unlock it. Anybody happen to know where to get one shipped & how to unlock?
http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/lg-optimus-f3q.html

hardy81 said:
I'd like to get one of these somehow to Europe and unlock it. Anybody happen to know where to get one shipped & how to unlock?
http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/lg-optimus-f3q.html
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I am also interested in this phone, but it seemed no one really cared about it. A seller called welectronics posted an open box video in youtube, you are able to buy from them at a premium, but I would wait for cheaper ones to float around on ebay. The 4G bands of this phone do not work in Europe but 3G do, and there are websites that sell the unlock code for the network lock.

il like this phone too and waitin an offer (Ihave T-Mobile MyTou Q Huawei u8730)

it's really too bad no one seems to care about this phone.
I wanted to get one but also want to see if anyone here can come up with rooting and flashing instruction for this phone first.
I really want to get a Kitkat rom on this phone.
(FYI, I am still using the T-Mobile G2 I love so much.)

I found a site which sells this unlocked and ships to Europe: http://www.canadagsm.ca/products-LG-Optimus-F3Q-Penta-Band-LTE. 2G and 3G will work; 4G not.
But as there is no alternative ROM available and apparently no way to root, it's impossible to remap the keyboard. Which is a must, at least up here in the Nordics.
Brilliant looking phone. I'm sure the qwerty sliders will make a comeback someday, stupid people just haven't figured out yet that Apple screwed them when they introduced the on-screen keyboard.
But how to get root? Hopefully somebody with skills would also buy this and do Cyanogenmod for it.

Could this be real: http://442kitkat.senuke.info/mp3-0/lg-optimus-f3q-5998.html

If there is a rooting guide and KitKat rom for this phone, I am going to buy one right the way.
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hardy81 said:
Could this be real: http://442kitkat.senuke.info/mp3-0/lg-optimus-f3q-5998.html
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Looks real but doesn't seem to have a rooting S-Off guide.
And the download links to the rom are broken.

misbehave said:
Looks real but doesn't seem to have a rooting S-Off guide.
And the download links to the rom are broken.
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Also no way I'm downloading from an obscure site a ROM to my phone, without a community which can validate that it does not include anything nasty.

I am wondering if Motochopper or RootMaster can root this phone or not.

I expect that after some sales somebody will create a forum for this phone. It's on T-Mobile where people are used to qwerty's and in their portfolio it replaces the Samsung Galaxy Relay, which has an active forum here.

I am also very interested in this phone.
Problem seems to be getting it out of the grasps of the usual "America is #1 and we don't want to know about any of the rest of you" phone companies...
...Does anyone know if the LG Enact shares the same case design as the F3Q? They both look very similar.

Not sure about Europe, but some South East Asian countries welcome qwerty keyboard phone. What is LG thinking? Can't sell a phone without carrier backing?
The LG Enact has identical spec as the F3Q, BUT it is a CDMA phone for Verizon so it is almost impossible to use outside the US, unless you are using a CDMA carrier and is able to unlock and register the phone.

o>c said:
Not sure about Europe, but some South East Asian countries welcome qwerty keyboard phone. What is LG thinking? Can't sell a phone without carrier backing?
The LG Enact has identical spec as the F3Q, BUT it is a CDMA phone for Verizon so it is almost impossible to use outside the US, unless you are using a CDMA carrier and is able to unlock and register the phone.
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In this regard then it's not just LG, Motorola too.
Making the awasome Droid4 exclusively for Verizon in US and no GSM version for T-Mobile or AT&T.
I guess Motorola deserve what is happening to them now, guts taken out by Google and being sold to Lenovo as an empty shell.

o>c said:
The LG Enact has identical spec as the F3Q, BUT it is a CDMA phone
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I know it is CDMA but I was wondering if it was physically identical. I was wondering if you might be able to use accessories like cases made for the Enact on the F3Q, and maybe even change the ugly blue keyboard of the F3Q to the grey one of the Enact.

lameboyadvance said:
I know it is CDMA but I was wondering if it was physically identical. I was wondering if you might be able to use accessories like cases made for the Enact on the F3Q, and maybe even change the ugly blue keyboard of the F3Q to the grey one of the Enact.
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I really don't understand the design process over at LG.
If I buy the F3Q, the first thing I would do is that out that back shell cover and spray it will some black or pearl-white spray paint.

o>c said:
Not sure about Europe, but some South East Asian countries welcome qwerty keyboard phone. What is LG thinking? Can't sell a phone without carrier backing?
The LG Enact has identical spec as the F3Q, BUT it is a CDMA phone for Verizon so it is almost impossible to use outside the US, unless you are using a CDMA carrier and is able to unlock and register the phone.
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Actually it has a CDMA and LTE radio and has a SIM card slot. But nowhere else really uses the Band 13 LTE Verizon deploys, so can't really use it anywhere else. Maybe when Videotron starts setting up the C1 band in Canada then can use those phones here.

Contacted a few buying agents in the hope of importing one from the US, but they told me a monthly plan is required for purchasing this phone, so resales are not likely to circulate for the moment.

The ffollowing guide from k1mu worked on rooting my mobile f3q. Also I was able to buy the device out right from a mobile store in California for 339.99 plus tax for a total of 368.04 . This was with no monthly plan. Hope this helps anyone Else out. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758

dezalbebi said:
The ffollowing guide from k1mu worked on rooting my mobile f3q.
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Brilliant. Now Cyanogenmod someone please and I'll get this as my second device, even though I already have a nicely working Samsung Galaxy Relay (with slide-out qwerty also).

Wow, rooted already. This phone is definitely promising.
...I wonder if there's enough of us outside USA that it might be worth getting someone reliable to do a group purchase for us?
I can just see it now, some random guy walking into a T-Mobile store and asking for 26 F3Qs, 18 cases, 6 USB chargers and 5 dust protectors. :laugh:

Brown leather T-Mobile Only?

Pretty odd that it would be limited to one carrier (at least in the States.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEc7eygICBE
At 1:18

I posted this elsewhere. They have this posted on their G4 tour date page.
Not totally surprising really as many times we've seen a back color or phone color specific to a carrier.

Lock-N-Load said:
I posted this elsewhere. They have this posted on their G4 tour date page.
Not totally surprising really as many times we've seen a back color or phone color specific to a carrier.
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Good thing I am going unlocked.

Baldilocks said:
Good thing I am going unlocked.
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Are they selling an unlocked version with all the US bands/GSM?

frigidazzi said:
Are they selling an unlocked version with all the US bands/GSM?
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gsm yes, problem can arise with LTE frequency, at least for the international model which is already out now.

I have already seen, on eBay, virtually all of the leather back colors for sale out of Asia. So, for +-$70 USA (I bet prices will come down) you can score about any of the colors you might want. And then sell yours

Unlocked vs Dev Edition?

Whats up guys guys? So im definitely buying this phone, but problem is im on ATT. what really is the difference between Unlocked vs dev edition from HTC.com? i like to use RUUs to update software and occasionally wipe my phone clean after so many ROM installs. on my M9, the unlocked international version, there was only updated available through "update phone" section in settings. the DEV edition allowed me to go on HTC.com and download the RUU and update that way.
So what is truely the difference between unlocked/international and dev?

When you say dev edition.. I'm not sure what you're talking about. As the only thing currently available is an unlocked phone which works on att and tmobile. It's basically a dev edition.

Quadrider10 said:
Whats up guys guys? So im definitely buying this phone, but problem is im on ATT. what really is the difference between Unlocked vs dev edition from HTC.com? i like to use RUUs to update software and occasionally wipe my phone clean after so many ROM installs. on my M9, the unlocked international version, there was only updated available through "update phone" section in settings. the DEV edition allowed me to go on HTC.com and download the RUU and update that way.
So what is truely the difference between unlocked/international and dev?
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There is no "Developer Edition" for the 10, only an "Unlocked" version. "Unlocked" in this case does not mean bootloader unlocked, it means carrier unlocked. There was a "Developer Edition" AND "Unlocked" version for the M9 and older devices, the difference being that "Developer Edition" came with an unlocked bootloader AND carrier unlocked. The "Unlocked" version comes only carrier unlocked but NOT bootloader unlocked. However, the bootloader on "Unlocked" devices CAN be unlocked through HTC Dev bootloader unlocking program.

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There is no "Developer Edition" for the 10, only an "Unlocked" version. "Unlocked" in this case does not mean bootloader unlocked, it means carrier unlocked. There was a "Developer Edition" AND "Unlocked" version for the M9 and older devices, the difference being that "Developer Edition" came with an unlocked bootloader AND carrier unlocked. The "Unlocked" version comes only carrier unlocked but NOT bootloader unlocked. However, the bootloader on "Unlocked" devices CAN be unlocked through HTC Dev bootloader unlocking program.
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yea i was talking about my M9 between those devices. on the M9, both the international and dev edition used different firmware. for this international HTC 10 device, where would i be able to get RUU's to update it? for the M9 international, they were not offered directly through HTC.

Quadrider10 said:
yea i was talking about my M9 between those devices. on the M9, both the international and dev edition used different firmware. for this international HTC 10 device, where would i be able to get RUU's to update it? for the M9 international, they were not offered directly through HTC.
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The unlocked US version (2PS650000) is different than the international version (2PS620000). They are actually different models. For past devices, HTCUSA has posted the RUUs for unlocked US devices on their rom update web page:
http://www.htc.com/us/support/rom-downloads.html
HTC International/EMEA typically does not post RUUs for their devices. That being said there are websites where leaked RUUs are always posted, however, they usually require a subscription.

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The unlocked US version (2PS650000) is different than the international version (2PS620000). They are actually different models. For past devices, HTCUSA has posted the RUUs for unlocked US devices on their rom update web page:
http://www.htc.com/us/support/rom-downloads.html
HTC International/EMEA typically does not post RUUs for their devices. That being said there are websites where leaked RUUs are always posted, however, they usually require a subscription.
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ok so now my question is, is it better to get the international version or the USA unlocked version? i plan on traveling to countries outside the US, but want to try and stay on ATT as much as possible,

Quadrider10 said:
ok so now my question is, is it better to get the international version or the USA unlocked version? i plan on traveling to countries outside the US, but want to try and stay on ATT as much as possible,
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Personally, I would go for the US unlocked version if for no other reason than warranty issues. To get a warranty repair on the international device you would have to send it overseas. Plus the international version is not sold in the United States so you would have to import it and pay taxes on that. Finally, that is the one that you know will have all the necessary radio bands for AT&T to work properly, as HTCUSA has tested the device on AT&T network.

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Personally, I would go for the US unlocked version if for no other reason than warranty issues. To get a warranty repair on the international device you would have to send it overseas. Plus the international version is not sold in the United States so you would have to import it and pay taxes on that. Finally, that is the one that you know will have all the necessary radio bands for AT&T to work properly, as HTCUSA has tested the device on AT&T network.
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ok, but i am going to be spending some significant time out of country, idk where 100% yet, but i would like my phone to work on their radios if possible. countries like Japan....

Quadrider10 said:
ok, but i am going to be spending some significant time out of country, idk where 100% yet, but i would like my phone to work on their radios if possible. countries like Japan....
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It's an unlocked device it should work on most GSM Networks as long as you have a SIM card for that Network otherwise you would be using AT&T international roaming. Data speed may well fluctuate depending on what frequencies individual carriers predominantly use but you should be able to make phone calls and whatnot without issue.

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It's an unlocked device it should work on most GSM Networks as long as you have a SIM card for that Network otherwise you would be using AT&T international roaming. Data speed may well fluctuate depending on what frequencies individual carriers predominantly use but you should be able to make phone calls and whatnot without issue.
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yea thats all i would care about is phone and text... ok sounds good. ima go for the USA unlocked. Thank you very much!

If you unlock the bootloaders for the unlocked version it is still covered by warranty. So there's not much difference other than if you want updates right away go Nexus. If you don't mind waiting for developers or HTC to bring the next version then get an HTC 10.
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Nowadays tmo with their overseas roaming is the hot ticket for extended traveling. Just turn your phone on wherever you land and it works without having to get localized sims, distribute your regularly changing number, etc. Oddly the coverage overseas is better than in the US. They say you will be restricted to unlimited 2G data but normally you will get 3G. Seriously, I'm old and travel a lot. You're ahead of the game to port over and back compared to sim swapping because low cost sims are not always available and you save a lot of hassle. Next best option is sim swapping, Worst possible option is to use at&t as their overseas stuff is stupidly overpriced.
No matter which way you go most recent flagship phones travel pretty well as long as you don't require LTE, if you do you will want to research the carriers in the areas you will be traveling and get a prepaid on a network that your phone supports. Trip adviser forum is a pretty good resource for getting advise on the local coverage.

krabman said:
Nowadays tmo with their overseas roaming is the hot ticket for extended traveling. Just turn your phone on wherever you land and it works without having to get localized sims, distribute your regularly changing number, etc. Oddly the coverage overseas is better than in the US. They say you will be restricted to unlimited 2G data but normally you will get 3G. Seriously, I'm old and travel a lot. You're ahead of the game to port over and back compared to sim swapping because low cost sims are not always available and you save a lot of hassle. Next best option is sim swapping, Worst possible option is to use at&t as their overseas stuff is stupidly overpriced.
No matter which way you go most recent flagship phones travel pretty well as long as you don't require LTE, if you do you will want to research the carriers in the areas you will be traveling and get a prepaid on a network that your phone supports. Trip adviser forum is a pretty good resource for getting advise on the local coverage.
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all i really care about overseas is the use of call and text. data, as long as my phone can operate, idc what it is. ill have wifi everywhere i go for the most part.

Yeah, I don't care about LTE myself, is nice but not in any way a requirement. Having some data however is huge. You can translate, get information, and maps has become very good with walking and mass transit directions. I also use Here and download the maps for the entire area I'm going to be in before I leave. It's the easiest way to have mapping capability in remote areas.
The information I posted is essentially the conventional wisdom you will get if you search the travel forums, they're the go to for specific local information.

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The unlocked US version (2PS650000) is different than the international version (2PS620000). They are actually different models. For past devices, HTCUSA has posted the RUUs for unlocked US devices on their rom update web page:
http://www.htc.com/us/support/rom-downloads.html
HTC International/EMEA typically does not post RUUs for their devices. That being said there are websites where leaked RUUs are always posted, however, they usually require a subscription.
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would please post the links for HTC International/EMEA RUUs websites which require a subscription, I really need to check them. thanks

HTC Europe Tech support and Bootloader unlock
This is a reply I got from HTC Europe tech support re HTC 10 and bootloader unlock
Thank you for your email. My name is ***** and I am a Technical Support Agent for the HTC Written Team. You will have the option in the menu to unlock the bootloader, as this is a function in the Marshmallow.
Note this applies only phones purchased from HTC , I have one on pre order so will keep you posted

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The unlocked US version (2PS650000) is different than the international version (2PS620000). They are actually different models. For past devices, HTCUSA has posted the RUUs for unlocked US devices on their rom update web page:
http://www.htc.com/us/support/rom-downloads.html
HTC International/EMEA typically does not post RUUs for their devices. That being said there are websites where leaked RUUs are always posted, however, they usually require a subscription.
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Do you know what the difference is in between the two models? The thing is that I will be in US until mid May and then will move to Europe. I am planning on pre ordering it but not sure if the US unlocked version would work flawlessly in Europe. I would opt buying it in US if there are no differences as I can use the discount coupon and it is much cheaper here than UK or Germany.
I could read out some changes in terms of bands, but not sure what does it translate to!?
I would appreciate any help!

fidanhGPE said:
Do you know what the difference is in between the two models? The thing is that I will be in US until mid May and then will move to Europe. I am planning on pre ordering it but not sure if the US unlocked version would work flawlessly in Europe. I would opt buying it in US if there are no differences as I can use the discount coupon and it is much cheaper here than UK or Germany.
I could read out some changes in terms of bands, but not sure what does it translate to!?
I would appreciate any help!
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The supported network frequencies are the big difference. Check to confirm that the international model supports the network frequencies you will need while still in the states and vice versa.

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The supported network frequencies are the big difference. Check to confirm that the international model supports the network frequencies you will need while still in the states and vice versa.
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I have checked both the unlocked US and EMEA model, the only difference is on the LTE bands. I checked the LTE bands in Europe through wiki and most seem to use band 1,3,7,20, which are covered by the US model as well. Other than that gsm, 2G and 3G are the same.
Would someone confirm that the US model would work properly in EU?

UK guy thinking of getting a HTC 10 while on holidays in Chicage July 2016

Hi, I was intending of getting a Pay as Go sim while in USA for my M9 but now that the 10 is out I thought I might get one whilst out there. Do you think the 10 will be readily available {July 8th - 27} and do I go for a unlocked version and get a Pay as Go sim or a carrier based one and unlock later.

My personal preference would be to purchase the unlocked version. Unfortunately, it would be unlikely that you would be able to find an unlocked version in a retail store, but time will tell if any retail stores will offer it. (It should be available through the HTC web site by then.) You would probably be stuck with getting a carrier branded model. (T-Mobile would be the GSM variant here in the United States.)

Wolf said:
My personal preference would be to purchase the unlocked version. Unfortunately, it would be unlikely that you would be able to find an unlocked version in a retail store. You would probably be stuck with getting a carrier branded model. (AT&T and T-Mobile would be the GSM variants here in the United States.)
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There will not be an AT&T model for this device.

jollywhitefoot said:
There will not be an AT&T model for this device.
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Yes, I realized that after I responded and edited my answer. (You were just too quick to point that out.)

Wolf said:
Yes, I realized that after I responded and edited my answer. (You were just too quick to point that out.)
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Sorry. Just waiting around for my 10 to ship and trying to avoid work right now.

Two BestBuy reps claimed they would be carrying/able to order unlocked HTC 10's. I hope so, because I spent my saved phone cash on my wedding. If they do not carry it, I'll be forced into an unlocked S7.