Develop Bugs

10.0.10586.11

Lets begin with new build on this thread.

I must say I am a little bit disappointed, if this is really suppose to be RTM build. There are still some settings in phone that have windows phone 8.1 look, which is really shame. And the most annoying thing is that I can't update Lumia apps, Here apps, and even system core apps that are part of Settings like motion data, network services, etc. And I don't find glance screen options any where in Settings.

I do clean install and Im stuck on windows logo screen. It just keep restarting.
Lool
Will try hard reset now...

Opus Dei said:
I do clean install and Im stuck on windows logo screen. It just keep restarting.
Lool
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Microsoft is really making it hard to like them

Can't Unlock build 10.0.10586.11 with VCReg or Root tool after Hard Reset.

titi66200 said:
Can't Unlock build 10.0.10586.11 with VCReg or Root tool after Hard Reset.
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Oh my gosh! D:
Thanks for reporting this! :good:
EDIT: No, it still works!

qzem said:
I must say I am a little bit disappointed, if this is really suppose to be RTM build. There are still some settings in phone that have windows phone 8.1 look, which is really shame. And the most annoying thing is that I can't update Lumia apps, Here apps, and even system core apps that are part of Settings like motion data, network services, etc. And I don't find glance screen options any where in Settings.
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Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/win...x-fix-0x803f8006-error-regedit-nokia-t3252827

Ok, after hard reset, everything is well. Only APKTOWIN still wont work. I hate this situation...I really want to use some apk's.

augustinionut said:
Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/win...x-fix-0x803f8006-error-regedit-nokia-t3252827
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Thanks for the heads up. It is interesting that I had empty values for OEMID and SCMID. I first tryed with only entering Nokia at oemid, and it looks like everything updated sucesfully. But it is strange that all system apps in Settings under Extras are still looking like in Windows phone 8.1, like glance screen, motion data, etc. Is there a way to update this or microsoft didn't make those app for W10M yet?

I think so.

In my phone this build have a battery drain effect, i feel like it take less to get 0%. Do you know how to fix this?

Mine take 2 days to drain. XL.

augustinionut said:
Mine take 2 days to drain. XL.
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Should i hard reset? Even idle the phone take a lot of battery, probably an app?

Look for battery saver, battery use.

Ok, some rare bug happen. i have bluetooth headphones, so i try to pair with my phone and i discover the bluetooth was enabled but in notification center looks like its disabled. That mean the bluetooth was enabled the whole time.

Opus Dei said:
Ok, after hard reset, everything is well. Only APKTOWIN still wont work. I hate this situation...I really want to use some apk's.
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And it won't work in future, cuz MS cut off apk's support. They freeze Astoria or have canceled it.

flips13 said:
And it won't work in future, cuz MS cut off apk's support. They freeze Astoria or have canceled it.
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Ok, but please explain me what ver. I must use to manage to install android apk's. What ver.(build) of WP10 and how to do that. With Insider I use only latest one witch is incompatible with Astoria. I read that people use other builds but I don't know how to ...But ofc, only stable. If you know, pls guide me somewhere...
Thanks

Splitxs said:
Ok, some rare bug happen. i have bluetooth headphones, so i try to pair with my phone and i discover the bluetooth was enabled but in notification center looks like its disabled. That mean the bluetooth was enabled the whole time.
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Disable NFC.
I disabled feedback, i dont have internet to vaste...

Opus Dei said:
Ok, but please explain me what ver. I must use to manage to install android apk's. What ver.(build) of WP10 and how to do that. With Insider I use only latest one witch is incompatible with Astoria. I read that people use other builds but I don't know how to ...But ofc, only stable. If you know, pls guide me somewhere...
Thanks
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Last build with Astoria runtime is 10536, as I remember.
Check this theme. Maybe it will be useful for you. I haven't tried that, what mentioned there.
And of course, be careful and you are doing all at your own risk.

Is it true that L950 & L950XL is with the build 10586?
I don't think this is appropriate yet

Why magiskSU?

As the title says. Why are many developers switching to MagiskSU over SuperSU?

crazynapkinman said:
As the title says. Why are many developers switching to MagiskSU over SuperSU?
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Detection. Or rather cloaking. Apps that detect SuperSU don't always detect Magisk. There is more to it, but that gets to the heart of things. (I was trying to figure out a way to say that without making a pun on "root of the matter" or "kernel.)
There is more to Magisk than that, but it defeats SafetyNet on many devices. Not so much on Samsung. Which is why what @tdhite is doing is so important.

koop1955 said:
Detection. Or rather cloaking. Apps that detect SuperSU don't always detect Magisk. There is more to it, but that gets to the heart of things. (I was trying to figure out a way to say that without making a pun on "root of the matter" or "kernel.)
There is more to Magisk than that, but it defeats SafetyNet on many devices. Not so much on Samsung. Which is why what @tdhite is doing is so important.
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And what is it that he is doing aside from using Magisk in his kernel?

elesbb said:
And what is it that he is doing aside from using Magisk in his kernel?
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Integrating Magisk into the kernel alone should allow Android Pay to work as well as apps such as Pokemon Go. 
 @elesbb have you looked at the Magisk thread itself? See https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk
Modules, guides, etc.

koop1955 said:
Integrating Magisk into the kernel alone should allow Android Pay to work as well as apps such as Pokemon Go.
@elesbb have you looked at the Magisk thread itself? See https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk
Modules, guides, etc.
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I have briefly looked at it. I was under the impression it was simply flash in recovery and profit. Didn't realize it needed to be incorporated into the kernel. If it actually works to allow SafetyNet to pass, then sweet.

elesbb said:
I have briefly looked at it. I was under the impression it was simply flash in recovery and profit. Didn't realize it needed to be incorporated into the kernel. If it actually works to allow SafetyNet to pass, then sweet.
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There is a whole discussion about the challenges of using Magisk on Samsung phones, which is what we are attempting to solve.
Let me offer this scenario: Nougat is coming. Maybe a month off before we have the new TAR. Once we get that, flash via Odin to return to stock, then flash a Magisk-enabled kernel. Profit!
At least that is the vision.

koop1955 said:
There is a whole discussion about the challenges of using Magisk on Samsung phones, which is what we are attempting to solve.
Let me offer this scenario: Nougat is coming. Maybe a month off before we have the new TAR. Once we get that, flash via Odin to return to stock, then flash a Magisk-enabled kernel. Profit!
At least that is the vision.
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Don't mean to rain on your vision, but Nougat I feel will be more difficult in terms of rooting and such. Samsung is pretty good at preventing things. Root might be easy per say, but having all the safety checks come out clean, that will be a huge feat. I did find a guide where they say you can get SafetyNet comes back true with Magisk and a Samsung S6 (Euro version). I have this idea where Google (OEM) creates a sandbox to execute secure sensitive stuff at. That way we can still has root and security is still in tact. I need to converse with someone more intelligent on the matter to better refine my idea lol.

elesbb said:
Don't mean to rain on your vision, but Nougat I feel will be more difficult in terms of rooting and such. Samsung is pretty good at preventing things. Root might be easy per say, but having all the safety checks come out clean, that will be a huge feat. I did find a guide where they say you can get SafetyNet comes back true with Magisk and a Samsung S6 (Euro version). I have this idea where Google (OEM) creates a sandbox to execute secure sensitive stuff at. That way we can still has root and security is still in tact. I need to converse with someone more intelligent on the matter to better refine my idea lol.
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Talk to thdite and amieldl143. Those would be the likely ones.
More intelligent than me, for sure!
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For anyone interested in the challenges of rooting Nougat, this is a pretty good article: https://betanews.com/2016/07/20/android-7-0-nougat-root/

I think for me, MagiskSU being open source is the biggest win. SuperSU being closed source, and being now owned by some tacky Chinese entity, does not give me the warmest or the fuzziest of feelings.
The SafetyNet stuff is a game of cat and mouse - each time Magisk figures a way to pass, Google and OEMs come out with a different way to screw us over. I think the same thing is with SuperSU and suhide. Since I don't use AndroidPay/SamsungPay/PokemonGo/SnapChat/whatever, then it is not something I care much about that.

koop1955 said:
Talk to thdite and amieldl143. Those would be the likely ones.
More intelligent than me, for sure!
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For anyone interested in the challenges of rooting Nougat, this is a pretty good article: https://betanews.com/2016/07/20/android-7-0-nougat-root/
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I was speaking more so about talking to Google themselves lol.

elesbb said:
I was speaking more so about talking to Google themselves lol.
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Good luck with that. Google is actively engaged in making it harder to root the phones and is protecting the interests of their OEM partners, in this case Samsung.
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2016/07/strictly-enforced-verified-boot-with.html

elesbb said:
Don't mean to rain on your vision, but Nougat I feel will be more difficult in terms of rooting and such. Samsung is pretty good at preventing things. Root might be easy per say, but having all the safety checks come out clean, that will be a huge feat. I did find a guide where they say you can get SafetyNet comes back true with Magisk and a Samsung S6 (Euro version). I have this idea where Google (OEM) creates a sandbox to execute secure sensitive stuff at. That way we can still has root and security is still in tact. I need to converse with someone more intelligent on the matter to better refine my idea lol.
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On the 'sandbox' -- Samsung really is a pioneer in using trusted execution environment (TEE) zoning. Stock ROMs already execute (using TrustZone) trustlets in the secure zone, in fact a trustlet in the secure zone is in control of the verification and allowance of loading kernel modules (thus the need to alter TIMA operations in custom kernels making modules available). ARM directly supports dual worlds. The kernel, however, is the key point for setting up the communications back-n-forth so generally provides for the bypassses and hiding. I think that's your point (?). Google isn't really necessary in this part of the world -- Samsung is really a leader in this area.

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On the 'sandbox' -- Samsung really is a pioneer in using trusted execution environment (TEE) zoning. Stock ROMs already execute (using TrustZone) trustlets in the secure zone, in fact a trustlet in the secure zone is in control of the verification and allowance of loading kernel modules (thus the need to alter TIMA operations in custom kernels making modules available). ARM directly supports dual worlds. The kernel, however, is the key point for setting up the communications back-n-forth so generally provides for the bypassses and hiding. I think that's your point (?). Google isn't really necessary in this part of the world -- Samsung is really a leader in this area.
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Thanks for posting this, you always inspire me to do more research, to learn something new.
I found this article provides an explanation of how Samsung Pay is walled off and how Knox works: http://developer.samsung.com/tech-insights/pay/device-side-security
Interesting stuff.

What is this feature??

Guys.
I just realized there is a new feature on my phone.
I never allowed it to be installed, phone never asked if I wanted it and I have all updates turned off. All updates!
Stock, no root, Jan 2020 firmware.
You can find in under settings/google and it will be the very first position.
What is that?
How do I remove it?
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it's a part if google app update
https://www.google.com/covid19/exposurenotifications/

I have all updates turned off!
Both, the system and apps.
From the very first day I switched on the phone.
What the hell?

DonAndress said:
I have all updates turned off!
Both, the system and apps.
From the very first day I switched on the phone.
What the hell?
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but u can't turn off google frameworks update and google play store. btw it's google

faizauthar12 said:
but u can't turn off google frameworks update and google play store. btw it's google
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This is outrageous.
That's my phone now and I should be able to do whatever I want with it and block whatever I want.
They should have asked if I wanted any kind of f**king update.

You do not own the software on your phone. Please review the terms and conditions set my Google.

DonAndress said:
Guys.
I just realized there is a new feature on my phone.
I never allowed it to be installed, phone never asked if I wanted it and I have all updates turned off. All updates!
Stock, no root, Jan 2020 firmware.
You can find in under settings/google and it will be the very first position.
What is that?
How do I remove it?
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It's something that was being developed months ago, it makes your device search for devices in the background periodically for potentially COVID-19 infected people.
If someone is infected, they have to report it on their phone and it flags other users around if you're near someone who had/has COVID-19 or not.
It uses Bluetooth

Yepi69 said:
It's something that was being developed months ago, it makes your device search for devices in the background periodically for potentially COVID-19 infected people.
If someone is infected, they have to report it on their phone and it flags other users around if you're near someone who had/has COVID-19 or not.
It uses Bluetooth
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Yeah. Good thing I still have Nokia 3310

its a framework, it needs an app to work with it to be of any use . without the app from your local country etc it does nothing.

How can you be so sure? How do you know it doesn't work in the background anyway?

DonAndress said:
How can you be so sure? How do you know it doesn't work in the background anyway?
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How can you be sure little green aliens are not running the world? Do you have Bluetooth on ? do you track what data you receive on Bluetooth? its a framework module...not a secret conspiracy to take over the world... ( again )

DonAndress said:
How can you be so sure? How do you know it doesn't work in the background anyway?
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Its a framework. That means, apps sit on top on the frame ... like building a house, you need a base ( frame ) . This " Base" lets others build whatever house they want on top ... the actual "base" does nothing, how do I know... its a framework. if you are so paranoid, stop all you're google, amazon frameworks and see what happens, spoilers, your phone won't work. Next, stop all the frameworks in windows if you use that .. spoilers, it won't work ....then put everything into a box and leave it there

DonAndress said:
Yeah. Good thing I still have Nokia 3310
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If you want to live life without being tracked, I suggest you move to Mars.

Yepi69 said:
If you want to live life without being tracked, I suggest you move to Mars.
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I think "curiosity" is already there

Question Block 13 update?

I just got notified that my pixel 6 pro will update to A13 in two days, and there seems to be nothing I can do about it.
Does anyone know how to block it and stop any future updates? I've already got 'automatic updates' turned off, but that isn't stopping it.
What do I need to freeze, or what command line do i need to run, to clean this up and stop updates, especially A13?

I assume if your phone rooted, automatically updating will fail

It doesn't, and I lose root, that's what I thought last security update— which is why i'm concerned

christiebunny said:
I just got notified that my pixel 6 pro will update to A13 in two days, and there seems to be nothing I can do about it.
Does anyone know how to block it and stop any future updates? I've already got 'automatic updates' turned off, but that isn't stopping it.
What do I need to freeze, or what command line do i need to run, to clean this up and stop updates, especially A13?
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Yes tap build 7 times for Developer Settings and disable automatic updatea

You could unlock the bootloader (which would require a device wipe) and then reinstall your current build of Android manually. That would be one of the only ways to officially disable automatic updates as well as update notifications.

I don't think that there's any way you'll be able to permanently avoid it. At least one other person who was rooted on Android 12 got the OTA to 13 even though they had automatic updates already disabled and it actually installed successfully - they lost root until they manually re-rooted it, but it was a surprise it updated successfully via OTA.
You may be able to delay it some buy factory resetting and some other things, but it's a big "maybe", and ultimately I don't think there's any way for you to avoid it.
biggiesmalls657 said:
Yes tap build 7 times for Developer Settings and disable automatic updatea
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I've already got 'automatic updates' turned off, but that isn't stopping it.
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roirraW edor ehT said:
I don't think that there's any way you'll be able to permanently avoid it. At least one other person who was rooted on Android 12 got the OTA to 13 even though they had automatic updates already disabled and it actually installed successfully - they lost root until they manually re-rooted it, but it was a surprise it updated successfully via OTA.
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I "think" I've seen 3 instances of where someone was rooted but successfully completed the OTA, although 2 may have been from the same person. Maybe it was even the same person mentioning it 3 times, lol. Not really sure.
Makes me wonder if they removed the pre-OTA block verifications when going from A12 to A13 or just a fluke situation.

Lughnasadh said:
I "think" I've seen 3 instances of where someone was rooted but successfully completed the OTA, although 2 may have been from the same person. Didn't go back to check the posts.
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I think I've seen more than one person report this too, but wasn't sure, and as I always say, I keep forgetting the old stuff. What was I talking about?
Lughnasadh said:
Makes me wonder if they removed the pre-OTA block verifications when going from A12 to A13 or something else is going on.
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I suspect (but pretty obvious) that they have ways of force-pushing updates through despite the automatic update setting (or it's broken in typical Google fashion), but I think it's the former.
Then I believe they made a command decision that the vulnerability is too bad and that they felt they must force it on everyone. Again, given Google's reputation, this could've easily been an accident as well - "who pushed the red button!?!?!?"
And then the further command decision to push over top of modded, or at least simply rooted, devices as much as possible. I wonder what happens in the case someone has truly modified their software more aggressively at the root level. It wouldn't surprise me if it would've still overridden in those cases.
While, of course, those would be questionable actions for them to take (if these are actually true in the first place), I either partially or mostly agree with them, but just on principle, I can't wholeheartedly agree with them. Somewhere in the 40%-99% range.
If true, hopefully this is a very rare occurrence and not going to be how it is from now on. I will wait patiently to observe how things go.

What's the reason for avoiding the update? A13 is a pretty minor update from A12.1. In fact, I'd go so far as to say they should have called it A12.2.

96carboard said:
What's the reason for avoiding the update? A13 is a pretty minor update from A12.1. In fact, I'd go so far as to say they should have called it A12.2.
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this exactly I also want to know, is there any reason for not upgrading to A13 when coming from A12?
Only thing I could think of is some apps which might not yet work on A13...but thats about it?!

Annil said:
this exactly I also want to know, is there any reason for not upgrading to A13 when coming from A12?
Only thing I could think of is some apps which might not yet work on A13...but thats about it?!
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V4A, at least in my case. I'm not updating until its compatible, or I find a better alternative.

96carboard said:
What's the reason for avoiding the update? A13 is a pretty minor update from A12.1. In fact, I'd go so far as to say they should have called it A12.2.
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Android 13 cannot be modified is one reason...

Tulsadiver said:
Android 13 cannot be modified is one reason...
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I'm concerned about app compatibility, magisk, and how much control I'll lose.
As it is, even on 12, I can't change anything in /system, it's locked RO. I'm tired of not having control over a phone I paid for that's supposedly 'unlocked', but isn't

Tulsadiver said:
Android 13 cannot be modified is one reason...
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Could you explain your theory on this?

christiebunny said:
I'm concerned about app compatibility, magisk, and how much control I'll lose.
As it is, even on 12, I can't change anything in /system, it's locked RO. I'm tired of not having control over a phone I paid for that's supposedly 'unlocked', but isn't
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Compatibility seems remarkably intact, magisk works as intended, and there is no evidence of any change in what control you have.

96carboard said:
Could you explain your theory on this?
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Modified SystemUI bootloops.

Tulsadiver said:
Modified SystemUI bootloops.
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Ok? How are you modifying it?

96carboard said:
Ok? How are you modifying it?
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Same way I always have.

Tulsadiver said:
Same way I always have.
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That answer really doesn't help anyone.

96carboard said:
That answer really doesn't help anyone.
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Any like these:
Stand alone Clock, Navbargone, Battery Icon Gone, etc. Mods
For stock rooted only. For most part, these cannot be flashed together. These mods use the SystemUI Patcher Module Template by @Jai_08 By @cool_modules on telegram. After Installing this module, your screen will relock after every reboot of...
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Question OnePlus 9 Pro OS11 - How to Block Future Updates!

Hi, I'm still on OS11, and I would like to know if there are any commands via adb to block future updates. I'd appreciate any help!

Adelino80 said:
Hi, I'm still on OS11, and I would like to know if there are any commands via adb to block future updates. I'd appreciate any help!
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Turn off auto updates in developer settings

https://www.hardreset.info/devices/oneplus/oneplus-9-pro/developer-options/#:~:text=Developer%20Options%20OnePlus%209%20Pro%201%20Firstly%2C%20turn,option%20and%20find%20Developer%20options.%207%20Good%20job%21

can you use app inspector to search "update" in app list and post me the results

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https://www.hardreset.info/devices/oneplus/oneplus-9-pro/developer-options/#:~:text=Developer%20Options%20OnePlus%209%20Pro%201%20Firstly%2C%20turn,option%20and%20find%20Developer%20options.%207%20Good%20job%21
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Thanks! Turned the option off!

do you like insecure system with 2Y old security patch? gg.

Hildanew said:
do you like insecure system with 2Y old security patch? gg.
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Unfortunately, the Kennel is never updated by the manufacturers and therefore remains a security risk

ChrisFeiveel84 said:
Unfortunately, the Kennel is never updated by the manufacturers and therefore remains a security risk
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Kernel is majority updated with ever major Android. btw, every Kernel is patched by regular Google updates like different supported builds Windows..

Good question, I am also still on A11 oxygen OS. It is smooth and stable. Why would I be crazy enough to update?
We also need instructions on how to prevent google play services annoying nag messages about old firmware updates. Anyone know how to stop google play from annoying us?

Mandy $ingh said:
can you use app inspector to search "update" in app list and post me the results
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Update for what?
Hildanew said:
do you like insecure system with 2Y old security patch? gg.
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Who you referring to?
immortalwon said:
Good question, I am also still on A11 oxygen OS. It is smooth and stable. Why would I be crazy enough to update?
We also need instructions on how to prevent google play services annoying nag messages about old firmware updates. Anyone know how to stop google play from annoying us?
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Try turning off notifications....maybe?

on oos 13 use pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.oplus.ota using adb if you want to do the hard disable system update

TheGhost1951 said:
Who you referring to?
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for someone who want stay on OOS11 now with "2y" old security patch.

Hildanew said:
for someone who want stay on OOS11 now with "2y" old security patch.
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if you mean slowing down your phone, then yes, security patches are great!
An example: On windows 10, the original 1607 ltsb 2016 is probably the fastest and most smooth OS I ever used on win 10 series. Unfortunately if you install the "security patches", it becomes slow and high latency.
Same goes for android devices.
If you know what you are doing, then you don't need patches.

TheGhost1951 said:
Update for what?
Who you referring to?
Try turning off notifications....maybe?
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I did, but I was wondering if there is a specific component u can disable from play services instead of turning off notification?

immortalwon said:
if you mean slowing down your phone, then yes, security patches are great!
An example: On windows 10, the original 1607 ltsb 2016 is probably the fastest and most smooth OS I ever used on win 10 series. Unfortunately if you install the "security patches", it becomes slow and high latency.
Same goes for android devices.
If you know what you are doing, then you don't need patches.
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No man. If even, I'd rather be safe than fail. As with Meltdown and Spectre. Safety is safety and there is no other option for my good..

Hildanew said:
No man. If even, I'd rather be safe than fail. As with Meltdown and Spectre. Safety is safety and there is no other option for my good..
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Propaganda, but you do you buddy. Sounding like a Google / security researcher shill. The average person doesn't need all these security patches. Unless you work in a high level government or military field, security is pointless. I don't need nanny updates from google to tell me how to use my device.

immortalwon said:
Propaganda, but you do you buddy. Sounding like a Google / security researcher shill. The average person doesn't need all these security patches. Unless you work in a high level government or military field, security is pointless. I don't need nanny updates from google to tell me how to use my device.
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Have heard in the news about a rampant problem of androids being hacked.

No but sounds interesting. I would like to reiterate I am not fully against patching and updating a device / firmware to latest for security reasons. All I am saying is that a person should have the ability to block updates on an android or any other electronic device for that matter, not to be forced by Google or another megalithic corporation to move to the latest.

1) I fully agree that a user should have the right to not update
2) why a user would subject himself at a constant security risk is beyond me, but I strongly support his right to do whatever he wants

Freewill, freedom of choice be it good or bad. In that it is a matter of opinion, but it is still their choice! God gave us freewill, do we choose Him or choose the world? That is the single biggest choice one has to make!