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Hi,
I just received an unlocked International Galaxy Note II in the US. Ordered from Handtec in the UK, and the phone appears to be the French model. I have observed what I think is a problem when trying to use the phone on T-Mobile USA.
I put my T-Mobile USA SIM card in the phone, and the phone thinks I am roaming. Uhhhh no. It's a T-Mobile USA SIM card on the T-Mobile USA network. It is NOT roaming. Now, it probably doesn't have any impact beyond the "R" notifier, and a "Roaming" page which shows up on TouchWiz, but it DOES make me feel very uneasy. I have to enable "Data use while roaming" to be able to use data while on my home network!! It's crazy!
To those who will point out, yes, I know that T-Mobile USA has their 3G currently on the AWS 1700/2100 band, which the Note II does not support. I am therefore using EDGE with this phone. (Yes the data speeds suck, but T-Mobile's refarming will make this problem go away in the next few months). Even though I am on EDGE, I am not "roaming" unless the Note II's definition of roaming is different from mine. I am still on the home network, regardless of whether I am on 2G or 3G.
Has anyone else seen a problem like this?
If I can't figure this out in the next day or two, I may return the Note II and just wait another month or so for the T-Mobile US version. (Probably that's what I should do anyway, but I figured the GT-N7100 would get more developer support).
Hope someone can help!
Thanks!
Edit: I forgot to add - I also have and unlocked international Note 1 GT-N7000 and an unlocked iPhone 4. Neither possess the T-Mobile USA 3G band, and neither of which show roaming when I'm using T-Mobile USA. So, either T-Mobile did some funky network work today which changed something, or there is something different (and possibly a bug) about how the Galaxy Note II determines if it's roaming.
Unfortunately I cannot be of any assistance to your issue, just wanted to comment however. I find it very odd that ALL Note II's don't work on every frequency. Bear with me, I'm under the impression that they are identical hardware wise, every version. So, maybe it's a simple matter of flashing a different radio.img? Not that there are any available currently, but there will be shortly. I hope (think) it will be similar to the ATT Note on Tmo. Hopefully it works out better though. We still don't know if the Tmo Note II will be HSPA+42 or not, but it will support next years Tmo LTE.
So, as of now, this is a little bit of a disappointment for Tmo customers looking for the N7100. Hope you can find a workaround for at least HSPA+21 soon :good:
ccampbell1 said:
Hi,
I just received an unlocked International Galaxy Note II in the US. Ordered from Handtec in the UK, and the phone appears to be the French model. I have observed what I think is a problem when trying to use the phone on T-Mobile USA.
I put my T-Mobile USA SIM card in the phone, and the phone thinks I am roaming. Uhhhh no. It's a T-Mobile USA SIM card on the T-Mobile USA network. It is NOT roaming. Now, it probably doesn't have any impact beyond the "R" notifier, and a "Roaming" page which shows up on TouchWiz, but it DOES make me feel very uneasy. I have to enable "Data use while roaming" to be able to use data while on my home network!! It's crazy!
To those who will point out, yes, I know that T-Mobile USA has their 3G currently on the AWS 1700/2100 band, which the Note II does not support. I am therefore using EDGE with this phone. (Yes the data speeds suck, but T-Mobile's refarming will make this problem go away in the next few months). Even though I am on EDGE, I am not "roaming" unless the Note II's definition of roaming is different from mine. I am still on the home network, regardless of whether I am on 2G or 3G.
Has anyone else seen a problem like this?
If I can't figure this out in the next day or two, I may return the Note II and just wait another month or so for the T-Mobile US version. (Probably that's what I should do anyway, but I figured the GT-N7100 would get more developer support).
Hope someone can help!
Thanks!
Edit: I forgot to add - I also have and unlocked international Note 1 GT-N7000 and an unlocked iPhone 4. Neither possess the T-Mobile USA 3G band, and neither of which show roaming when I'm using T-Mobile USA. So, either T-Mobile did some funky network work today which changed something, or there is something different (and possibly a bug) about how the Galaxy Note II determines if it's roaming.
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That happened to me as well using my International Galaxy S3, I dug into it for about a month and trust me, it's something with the phone detecting that it can't connect to the HSPA+ bands it supports, and when it "defaults" down to EDGE it considers it "Roaming". Stop digging for answers, I was at it for weeks, this is the reason.
You wont get charged for roaming or anything though, so use EDGE until T-Mobile's refarming finally happens; I waited for 2 months and nothing, so I jumped ship and got Straight Talk. I use over 15 GB of data a month, no throttling, $45 bucks. :good:
Hope this helps, because NO ONE gave me a straight answer, Dont even bother calling T-Mobile, they're of absolutely no help. I flashed all sorts of custom ROMs, Kernels, Network Tools, Diagnostics, etc. trying to figure it out. It's just the way these Samsung phones (GT-I9300 and N7100 by the looks of it) work when their 3G/HSPA+ bands are not supported.
Cheers!
farfromovin said:
Unfortunately I cannot be of any assistance to your issue, just wanted to comment however. I find it very odd that ALL Note II's don't work on every frequency. Bear with me, I'm under the impression that they are identical hardware wise, every version. So, maybe it's a simple matter of flashing a different radio.img? Not that there are any available currently, but there will be shortly. I hope (think) it will be similar to the ATT Note on Tmo. Hopefully it works out better though. We still don't know if the Tmo Note II will be HSPA+42 or not, but it will support next years Tmo LTE.
So, as of now, this is a little bit of a disappointment for Tmo customers looking for the N7100. Hope you can find a workaround for at least HSPA+21 soon :good:
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farfromovin,
I agree it's a complete pain why one model can't work worldwide - or even between carriers in one country, the US!! I'm not sure that all the revisions are the exact same hardware though. Certainly the different revisions will support different LTE bands from one another, different 3G bands (ie T-Mobile USA) and even different technologies (VZW, Sprint, US Cellular CDMA). Whether there is one uber radio chip that's the same in all versions, with different bits enabled here and there, I don't know. I would doubt that a chip currently exists to support all GSM, UMTS, LTE and CDMA bands in the one, but you never know.
I really cannot wait (getting super sick of it) until T-Mobile's 1900MHz refarming, and finally all UMTS/HSPA phones will work on pretty much any UMTS/HSPA network worldwide. But just as we finally get 3G harmony, LTE comes along with a zillion different bands, and we're back to where we were at the start of GSM, and the start of UMTS - all over again.
As far as getting the GT-N7100 to work on T-Mobile AWS bands - unless the radio supports that band somewhere, and can be enabled by some hacky flashing, I don't think there's much chance. I followed a thread for a while which was trying to do that for the original GT-N7000 and it ended up nowhere unfortunately.
I'd be very, very surprised if the T-Mobile US official Note II did not support DC-HSPA +42. Given how TMO pushes that, I don't think they'd sell a phone without it these days. I'm kind of surprised the GT-N7100 doesn't have it, to be honest, but I guess it's not yet that widespread, and most carriers will bypass it to go to LTE.
Cheers!
Ars-Hexis said:
That happened to me as well using my International Galaxy S3, I dug into it for about a month and trust me, it's something with the phone detecting that it can't connect to the HSPA+ bands it supports, and when it "defaults" down to EDGE it considers it "Roaming". Stop digging for answers, I was at it for weeks, this is the reason.
You wont get charged for roaming or anything though, so use EDGE until T-Mobile's refarming finally happens; I waited for 2 months and nothing, so I jumped ship and got Straight Talk. I use over 15 GB of data a month, no throttling, $45 bucks. :good:
Hope this helps, because NO ONE gave me a straight answer, Dont even bother calling T-Mobile, they're of absolutely no help. I flashed all sorts of custom ROMs, Kernels, Network Tools, Diagnostics, etc. trying to figure it out. It's just the way these Samsung phones (GT-I9300 and N7100 by the looks of it) work when their 3G/HSPA+ bands are not supported.
Cheers!
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Hey Ars-Hexis,
Thanks so much for the reply. I googled about the same issue on the i9300 as you mentioned - and sure enough a couple of threads on androidcentral, and tmobile support - and all with pretty much a bunch of people going "what?" I think you're right, and this is either some crazy change which Samsung has made to the "S3" generation of phones, or it's an unintended bug which was introduced. I contacted Samsung support on twitter but I'm sure they'll tell me to go away since this is an international model and not sold or supported in the US.
I would love to have this properly reported to Samsung though because it is NOT correct behaviour, and I'm sure it does not meet the 3GPP standard behaviour. These phones' definition of "roaming" is frankly wrong. It's possible they know about the bug but don't care about it too much, because it only affects the minority of importers or travelers, and then only on the very few networks which use AWS band for 3G.
The phone and data works fine of course, so it's really a cosmetic annoyance. However, if I was actually outside TMO's network without knowing it (maybe camping on to some network on the Canadian border or something) then I'd never know if I was actually roaming or not. So the phone's roaming indicator, by being permanently false, is useless in the times when I'm actually roaming. Since this is not a likely scenario for me to be on the Canadian border and roaming onto an AWS-only network any time soon, I'll not worry too much about it.
Yes, I'm really sick waiting on this refarming. It's a huge undertaking of course, so I understand why. I do have a Straight Talk AT&T SIM which I got for my Galaxy Note 1, however I don't use it often for several reasons: haven't ported my number to it, am wary about data throttling or cut-off, and I find the data hit or miss on Straight Talk anyway. I heard stories about people being warned or cut off after 100MB in any day, but if you're saying 15GB and no throttling, it may be something I want to put to the test!
Thanks a lot for your reply! It's nice to know I'm not crazy!
Cheers!
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Hey Ars-Hexis,
Thanks so much for the reply. I googled about the same issue on the i9300 as you mentioned - and sure enough a couple of threads on androidcentral, and tmobile support - and all with pretty much a bunch of people going "what?" I think you're right, and this is either some crazy change which Samsung has made to the "S3" generation of phones, or it's an unintended bug which was introduced. I contacted Samsung support on twitter but I'm sure they'll tell me to go away since this is an international model and not sold or supported in the US.
I would love to have this properly reported to Samsung though because it is NOT correct behaviour, and I'm sure it does not meet the 3GPP standard behaviour. These phones' definition of "roaming" is frankly wrong. It's possible they know about the bug but don't care about it too much, because it only affects the minority of importers or travelers, and then only on the very few networks which use AWS band for 3G.
The phone and data works fine of course, so it's really a cosmetic annoyance. However, if I was actually outside TMO's network without knowing it (maybe camping on to some network on the Canadian border or something) then I'd never know if I was actually roaming or not. So the phone's roaming indicator, by being permanently false, is useless in the times when I'm actually roaming. Since this is not a likely scenario for me to be on the Canadian border and roaming onto an AWS-only network any time soon, I'll not worry too much about it.
Yes, I'm really sick waiting on this refarming. It's a huge undertaking of course, so I understand why. I do have a Straight Talk AT&T SIM which I got for my Galaxy Note 1, however I don't use it often for several reasons: haven't ported my number to it, am wary about data throttling or cut-off, and I find the data hit or miss on Straight Talk anyway. I heard stories about people being warned or cut off after 100MB in any day, but if you're saying 15GB and no throttling, it may be something I want to put to the test!
Thanks a lot for your reply! It's nice to know I'm not crazy!
Cheers!
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Hey there! Sorry I hadn't answered in such a long time. We'll actually I've found that the S3 (sold it) and the Note 2 (own it) some how cannot be tracked for data usage correctly by straight talk. It's quite interesting... I ported my number over from T-Mobile, so if you have an S3 with a T-mobile prepaid sim... I think you have nothing to lose! I'm in Dallas and regularly get around 3-4Mbits/S during high usage hours and 6-7Mbits/S after 7 pm when network usage goes down.
There have been 2 occasions over the past 2 months where I'm throttled for like an hour and suddenly it gets uncapped on its own (?!?!?) lol. Last month I used about 25 GB... It's insane. Btw, if you if get throttled for real (happened to me once), you can just call them and say your "Internets is slow" (act technologically challenged) and they'll reset it.
Ah 1 last thing: I got the at&T ST sim card when I switched.
Cheers!
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I just got my International Note 2 today, and I am using it on the T-Mobile network also. I am seeing that I am roaming but my data is off and I am just using wifi. I have turned off my phone and back on again and its still showing. But after reading this whole thread I am getting that is a bug or something along those lines is that correct? Thanks.
I really need to know
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roaming
I am on prepaid tmobile and I have Roaming sign only in areas where I used to loose signal with my old phone . Basically when I go in Garage underground my signal starts getting weaker and weaker and then roaming kiks in and signal is up all the way . T-mobile does not charges for local roaming . If you use USA tmobile and you are in usa you are fine . My texts and voice are still the same rate for me . When I had Chinese rom it was showing all the time , now I flashed German t-mobile and R shows only sometime , but it does not bother me .
Hope this helps .
I too have a Note II (GT-N7100) I purchased in Thailand in December. I use it on the T-Mobile network and have the same issues with the "R" symbol. I am located in Tampa Bay area, Florida.
T-Mobile was indicating to me in January that this was an issue in weaker signal areas for their data network as they prepare to refarm it. Don't know if this explanation is entirely accurate, but I find in my local area that the R symbol goes away in certain areas and it behaves "normally". This includes the area where my T-Mobile office is located. It seems to be somewhat of a patchwork network, and for some reasons certain areas cause it to go into the Roaming mode.
I was just on a trip with stops in Los Amgeles, San Francisco, and Philadelphia and noted the same behavior in some of those cities: Getting normal signal indications in some places, and Roaming in others.
Hi. I purchased the Pro.8.4 for $350 at Best Buy. Apparently they only sell the WiFi version. I noticed that you can get the LTE version on Expansys for about $450. Anybody in the US buy the LTE version? What carrier you using and how is it working out. Is it worth the extra $100 to you? Thanks!
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Hi. I purchased the Pro.8.4 for $350 at Best Buy. Apparently they only sell the WiFi version. I noticed that you can get the LTE version on Expansys for about $450. Anybody in the US buy the LTE version? What carrier you using and how is it working out. Is it worth the extra $100 to you? Thanks!
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I bought the T325 and I am using it on AT&T. Unfortunately, it doesn't have the correct LTE bands for the U.S., so the best it can get is H+ which is 3g. Having said that, I don't have LTE where I live but I get 14Mbps on H+ so I'm not missing the LTE at home. I travel a lot and most of the places I go to have 3g speeds between 3-6Mbps so it does ok (a lot better than hotel wifi).
The thing to consider is that on AT&T, and I'm assuming t-Mobile as well, the T325 shows up as a cell phone so it will require a full cell phone sim. A data-only sim won't activate. I also had to tweak the APN to get a solid connection.
All said, I'm very happy with the T325 and I use it as my daily phone/tablet.
flymacs said:
I bought the T325 and I am using it on AT&T. Unfortunately, it doesn't have the correct LTE bands for the U.S., so the best it can get is H+ which is 3g. Having said that, I don't have LTE where I live but I get 14Mbps on H+ so I'm not missing the LTE at home. I travel a lot and most of the places I go to have 3g speeds between 3-6Mbps so it does ok (a lot better than hotel wifi).
The thing to consider is that on AT&T, and I'm assuming t-Mobile as well, the T325 shows up as a cell phone so it will require a full cell phone sim. A data-only sim won't activate. I also had to tweak the APN to get a solid connection.
All said, I'm very happy with the T325 and I use it as my daily phone/tablet.
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Hi. Thanks for your comments. Just wondering how you use it as a phone. Due you use it via bluetooth device?
I can confirm what flymacs wrote. It doesn't support LTE in US. I'm using AT&T as well and I've confirmed there is LTE coverage where I'm at from other AT&T users but I only connect to H+ (3G).
Not a real problem for me as I'm a light data user and I knew going in that LTE was a long shot.
mscion said:
Hi. Thanks for your comments. Just wondering how you use it as a phone. Due you use it via bluetooth device?
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The SM-T325 is the Cellular/International/Non-U.S. LTE version. The SM-T320 is the wifi only version. The T325 has a earpiece just like all cell phones. You can make/answer calls simply by holding it up to your ear like any other cell phone. Granted, it may look silly holding this size of a device next to your head. I use both a wired earbud and a bluetooth headset.
Phone quality and reception is very good. In fact the audio quality of the T325 is better than most of the devices I've used. The only minor issue I have is my work apps don't scale very well to the high ppi of the screen. But that is not the phone's fault.
Hello gang,
I picked up a new T-Mobile Note 10.1 2014 edition 2 days ago. So far, everything seems to be great. There is one issue however that seems perplexing. My tablet connects to 4G and LTE networks just fine but for some reason, it will not connect to 2G/Edge networks near my home. I live in a rural part of PA where T-Mobile doesn't have 4G/LTE coverage. My Samsung Galaxy S3 connects to the Edge network near my house without issue. However, my tablet does not connect and simply shows a small X where the signal meter is.
I spoke to T-Mobile tech support this morning and they seem to think that the band covering 2G may be dead. Could this be possible when 4G and LTE work just fine?
Also, the options under Network mode are now limited to 2: LTE/WCDMA (auto connect) and WCDMA only. My SGS3 has a GSM only option which the tablet seems to be missing.
I am running Android 4.4.2. Any thoughts / suggestions?
Thanks!
amstel78 said:
Hello gang,
I picked up a new T-Mobile Note 10.1 2014 edition 2 days ago. So far, everything seems to be great. There is one issue however that seems perplexing. My tablet connects to 4G and LTE networks just fine but for some reason, it will not connect to 2G/Edge networks near my home. I live in a rural part of PA where T-Mobile doesn't have 4G/LTE coverage. My Samsung Galaxy S3 connects to the Edge network near my house without issue. However, my tablet does not connect and simply shows a small X where the signal meter is.
I spoke to T-Mobile tech support this morning and they seem to think that the band covering 2G may be dead. Could this be possible when 4G and LTE work just fine?
Also, the options under Network mode are now limited to 2: LTE/WCDMA (auto connect) and WCDMA only. My SGS3 has a GSM only option which the tablet seems to be missing.
I am running Android 4.4.2. Any thoughts / suggestions?
Thanks!
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I can't state this as a fact for the tmo P607T but remember that the tmo 3g version of the
Samsung galaxy tab plus 7.0 had a similar situation. Users were looking to add phone functions
to this device.
Turned out on the xda threads that the tmo tab plus 7.0 had no hardware
to support phone functions as the international version did.
amstel78 said:
Hello gang,
I picked up a new T-Mobile Note 10.1 2014 edition 2 days ago. So far, everything seems to be great. There is one issue however that seems perplexing. My tablet connects to 4G and LTE networks just fine but for some reason, it will not connect to 2G/Edge networks near my home. I live in a rural part of PA where T-Mobile doesn't have 4G/LTE coverage. My Samsung Galaxy S3 connects to the Edge network near my house without issue. However, my tablet does not connect and simply shows a small X where the signal meter is.
I spoke to T-Mobile tech support this morning and they seem to think that the band covering 2G may be dead. Could this be possible when 4G and LTE work just fine?
Also, the options under Network mode are now limited to 2: LTE/WCDMA (auto connect) and WCDMA only. My SGS3 has a GSM only option which the tablet seems to be missing.
I am running Android 4.4.2. Any thoughts / suggestions?
Thanks!
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The GSM mode only makes it so you can force the Device into 2g or Edge mode. If you do not want to use LTE just pick WCDMA which is 3g/HSPA+ and GSM(2g/edge). If you are looking to turn off the T-Mobile data part Pull the Sim card out or just put the Tablet into Airplane mode which you can till turn on Wifi. I bought my Note just for Wifi, and using EIP. So i am not using it with T-Mobile Data. getting a data plan on the tablet is a big waste when you can just hotpsot your phone.
Prod1702 said:
The GSM mode only makes it so you can force the Device into 2g or Edge mode. If you do not want to use LTE just pick WCDMA which is 3g/HSPA+ and GSM(2g/edge). If you are looking to turn off the T-Mobile data part Pull the Sim card out or just put the Tablet into Airplane mode which you can till turn on Wifi. I bought my Note just for Wifi, and using EIP. So i am not using it with T-Mobile Data. getting a data plan on the tablet is a big waste when you can just hotpsot your phone.
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Well, it turns out that my tablet is defective. T-Mobile is sending me a replacement. I spoke to several tier 2 techs including one Samsung specialist and they all concurred that the band governing 2g on my Note must be inoperative. Weird right?
Well I got my replacement Note in the mail yesterday and it also will not connect to the 2G/Edge network near my house. I highly doubt I could have gotten 2 bad tablets in a row so there's something else amiss here. Perhaps the specs on T-Mo's website is incorrect and this new device simply doesn't have the capability to go to 2G/Edge or the modem firmware being used is a crippled version.
Very disappointed to say the least; yes Edge is horrendously slow but can be beneficial in a pinch sometimes. Any thoughts?
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... or the modem firmware being used is a crippled version. ... Very disappointed to say the least; yes Edge is horrendously slow but can be beneficial in a pinch sometimes.
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Yeah, I think you're right; despite unlocking mine and using it on AT&T (which does have better coverage), there's places on my commute where there's 4 bars, yet no data transfer. I've yet to see an "E" or "3G" symbol, either.
I'm thinking about trying to flash the P605M radio, but that'll have to wait 'till the weekend.
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Yeah, I think you're right; despite unlocking mine and using it on AT&T (which does have better coverage), there's places on my commute where there's 4 bars, yet no data transfer. I've yet to see an "E" or "3G" symbol, either.
I'm thinking about trying to flash the P605M radio, but that'll have to wait 'till the weekend.
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Please keep me posted on your results if you do end up flashing the modem. I'd be very interested to see what you discover.
I wonder if this move by T-Mo to cut 2g/Edge compatibility has something to do with their rumored intention of converting all of their 2g spectrum to 4g? Even if that were true though, that precludes using this as an unlocked device in other areas or countries that may only have 2g/3g coverage. What about data roaming?
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Please keep me posted on your results if you do end up flashing the modem. I'd be very interested to see what you discover.
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Well, turns out that I might put that off a little bit later than the weekend- I've since had mine unlocked and as it gets the VZW LTE bands, I'm going to see how well it does on that (VZW drops back to CDMA in non-LTE areas, so I'd be completely without service). VZW LTE is pretty ubiquitous from what I'd seen with my OG Xoom, but if it turns out I lose service on the train in large spots I'll revisit GSM options again.
Besides, I might just flash the radios just to see what happens
Issue:
Phone will not stay locked on LTE in Global or LTE/UMTS/GSM mode. When in Global or LTE/UMTS/GSM mode and LTE does connect, it's momentarily and when trying to run a speed test or open a webpage, it quickly disconnects and connects to HSDPA. If switched to LTE/CDMA signal locks in great and data speeds are great however voice services are not available. Any thoughts or advice is welcomed. Thanks ahead of time!
Facts:
Phone: VS986
Android Version: 5.1
Build: LMY47D
Soft Version: VS98611A
APN: T-Mobile Fast apn (fast.t-mobile.com)
Strong LTE area
*#*#4636#*#* Not available on LG G4
Radio Swither Not available on LG G4
Rooted
Xposed installed
Gravity Box installed (no change when using smart radio features)
G3 Tweakbox installed but module will not register with Xposed Framework (I know it was along shot)
What band LTE are you connecting to? I found that here on band 2, I will connect at first, but then it switches back to edge. Seems fine in a band 4 LTE area though.
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What band LTE are you connecting to? I found that here on band 2, I will connect at first, but then it switches back to edge. Seems fine in a band 4 LTE area though.
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I'm in the Raleigh NC area. According to LTE Discovery i'm using Band 4. and I also experience the same. A brief connection while in global or LTE/UMTS/GSM mode then it falls back to HSPA.
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I'm in the Raleigh NC area. According to LTE Discovery i'm using Band 4. and I also experience the same. A brief connection while in global or LTE/UMTS/GSM mode then it falls back to HSPA.
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I haven't found LTE Discovery to report the band correctly, at least in my case. It would say I'm on band 4 on my Moto X, but when using a band 4 only device I would only get Edge, but when I go in a confirmed band 4 area it works fine. From what I've found, most 2G > LTE sites were converted to band 2 LTE. Although since you get HSPA the chances of it actually being on band 4 are higher.
I'm fairly certain this is a Band 4 area. The latest T-Mobile maps are pretty good about pointing out Band 2 areas. I've since sold the phone and acquired a iPhone 6 Plus which I'm looking to sell to replace it with an international G4 or T-Mobile G4. I was pretty impressed with that phone. If I had to rank my favorites, it's number 2. Nexus 5 is still king of the hill for me. There wasn't a better phone out when it was release for a better price.
did you ever figure this out? samething is happening to me
Unfortunately I didn't. I sold it and bought one for T-Mobile...... Which I just sold about 3 hours ago.
So I tested it out again, and in a band 2 area when I boot up my phone with a T-Mobile SIM, I get LTE for several seconds then it cuts back over to 2G.
Now that there is a new software update for the G4, I wonder if this is anymore reliable. Anyone who took the OTA update in the past few days, can you let us know if it's any better?
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Been there, done that...wanted to switch over to T-Mobile, but unfortunately, the VS986 only works with two of their three LTE bands, as you know, and it seems everywhere I went, they were using the one the phone doesn't receive (I'm in southern California, for what it's worth, but tested it on a freeway run up the I-5 to the central part of the state - only got 4G-LTE in a few places). Wound up going back to Verizon
I'm getting the exact same results in Burlington, VT (T-Mobile band 2 market). I first have to manually select T-Mobile (defaults to roaming on AT&T HSPA+) then LTE works for less than a minute (LTE Discovery says band 4) and then I lose signal when I get signal again, I only have edge. It does this constantly and is really annoying.
Aww, bummer. I was thinking about switching to T-Mobile, but looks like that is not a viable option? So no one has been able to successfully use the phone on T-Mobile, even after enabling bands 2 and 4 only?
This whole plethora of LTE bands, where each provider does its own crap is such a mess, is just serves to lock in customers, since switching phones is expensive. Government should mandate that all phones can work on all US LTE bands, the technology exists.
I am on the same boat. Everything works on my VS986 on t-mobile network. but I cannot get the LTE to work properly. LTE discovery shows band 4 (not sure if correct though)
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Aww, bummer. I was thinking about switching to T-Mobile, but looks like that is not a viable option? So no one has been able to successfully use the phone on T-Mobile, even after enabling bands 2 and 4 only?
This whole plethora of LTE bands, where each provider does its own crap is such a mess, is just serves to lock in customers, since switching phones is expensive. Government should mandate that all phones can work on all US LTE bands, the technology exists.
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My VRZ LG G4 shows that it has Band 2, 4, 5, and 13. I tried enabling 2 & 4 only, 4 only, 2 only, 2&4&13 only but with no success.
What is interesting is I am coming from VRZ LG G3 and LTE was just fine and never had an issue.
I looked at the VRZ LG G3 LTE bands and I see Band 3,4, and 13 enabled. It did not even have band 2.
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When I switched the Network Mode to LTE/CDMA I get constant 4G-LTE & internet is working but my phone cannot place and receive phone calls.
with LTE/CDMA I see 4G at 100dBm and 1X at 120dBm
ruijay said:
More testing:
When I switched the Network Mode to LTE/CDMA I get constant 4G-LTE & internet is working but my phone cannot place and receive phone calls.
with LTE/CDMA I see 4G at 100dBm and 1X at 120dBm
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Interesting, almost sounds like a bug in the LTE/GSM mode.
I assume when you switch to global mode, voice works but only HSPA, right?
konradsa said:
Interesting, almost sounds like a bug in the LTE/GSM mode.
I assume when you switch to global mode, voice works but only HSPA, right?
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That is right.
The best internet speed was with LTE/CDMA but no voice or text
ruijay said:
That is right.
The best internet speed was with LTE/CDMA but no voice or text
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Out of curiosity, what speeds do you get on HSPA in global mode?
konradsa said:
Out of curiosity, what speeds do you get on HSPA in global mode?
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With HSPA/3G I get around 7 mbps download and 1.88 mbps upload
ruijay said:
More testing:
When I switched the Network Mode to LTE/CDMA I get constant 4G-LTE & internet is working but my phone cannot place and receive phone calls.
with LTE/CDMA I see 4G at 100dBm and 1X at 120dBm
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ruijay said:
That is right.
The best internet speed was with LTE/CDMA but no voice or text
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I think since someone reported before that this used to work the G3, it sounds like a bug to me. I guess we can hope and pray that this will work in future releases, but there is no guarantee of course. Not sure what complaining to Verizon will do, since they are probably not very interested in you using T-Mobile. Of course, you can always wrap the complaint into something like you are using the phone in a different country on vacation and it doesn't work. Maybe a complaint to the FTC could work too, since it sounds like Verizon is required to have their phones unlocked for use on other networks based on some settlement.
konradsa said:
I think since someone reported before that this used to work the G3, it sounds like a bug to me. I guess we can hope and pray that this will work in future releases, but there is no guarantee of course. Not sure what complaining to Verizon will do, since they are probably not very interested in you using T-Mobile. Of course, you can always wrap the complaint into something like you are using the phone in a different country on vacation and it doesn't work. Maybe a complaint to the FTC could work too, since it sounds like Verizon is required to have their phones unlocked for use on other networks based on some settlement.
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I am tempted to try the guide in here to add more LTE bands:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/guide-enabling-lte-bands-t3137818
While some testers said the LTE bands are limited by hardware others reported some success modifying the software. Any thoughts?
So I got my pixel xl from Google today. It works but I am on T-Mobile and it will not connect to LTE band 4 or 12 which are in my area. I have an ATT SIM for my work which I popped in and it works fine. That said without driving around Atlanta to try to find B2 I cannot tell if it is T-Mobile or the phone. Is anyone else on T-Mobile getting LTE connection at all?
So news today I can connect to LTE. Yesterday when I got the SIM in using *#*#4636#*#* I would get zero reception forcing LTE only. The phone would only connect to UMTS/HSPAP. Today after several restarts and calling T-Mobile and Google support it is now working. Here is what I did.
First Google is saying the update is supposed to affect LTE connecting issues.
Second make sure your SIM is properly registered with your provider. They should elevate the issue to higher tech support to have them look into it. This takes up to 24 hours.
Third go to your dialer do the *#*4636#*#*, go to phone info and change the preferred network type to LTE/UMTS or LTE/WCDMA (I haven't seen a difference between them). (This info is in other threads) Then restart your phone.
The problem seems to be how the phone determines what bands the network provider uses. It defaults to CDMA as the voice connection. For me this meant the phone was always connecting to UMTS only. It seems the firmware has some kind of default setting when it senses an error out the gate. The APN settings and preferred network settings needed to be updated and the phone restarted for it all to work. I now connect to band 4 LTE in my area. I hope this helps others.
I am also getting slow data speeds on my pixel XL connected to t mobile
My XL seems to get pretty consistent LTE service and good speed on T-Mobile.
LTE in Chicago working well.
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
LTE in minnesota working fine.
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
Google "Pixel LTE band 4 issue"
Weird. I'm getting pretty awesome Band 4 coverage in So. Cal. I also get Band 12 here, but Band 4 is what my phone tends to be connected to, which is fine since it tends to be significantly faster.
I'm in Oklahoma on t mobile getting slow connection compared to my friends. They each have a galaxy s6 edge and get between 70-80 MBs down sitting right next to me. I'm getting 14 MBs down. I just left sprint today for slow connection. Hoping to find a way to get this resolved ASAP.
mnguyen127 said:
Weird. I'm getting pretty awesome Band 4 coverage in So. Cal. I also get Band 12 here, but Band 4 is what my phone tends to be connected to, which is fine since it tends to be significantly faster.
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I only experience the issue in downtown Toronto area and I contacted my carrier, Telus, in Canada. They confirmed that network signal in such area is mainly LTE band 4...
Just an FYI for those with the same issue. Google has asked for my shipping address after contacting them about the issue.
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Just an FYI for those with the same issue. Google has asked for my shipping address after contacting them about the issue.
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Which means replacement is on its way?
Not yet I'll update the thread when I get word.
I hope that result you issue, theres a lot of people with problems with LTE band 4 around the world
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/phone-by-google/OxkJ1Sn6i5c/E_2n5dFTBgAJ
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Not yet I'll update the thread when I get word.
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Have you tried swapping SIM cards?
I pulled the sim out of another working TMO iPhone6s and my PIXEL got LTE right away.
Have an update and updated the main post.
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Have an update and updated the main post.
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Thanks. I changed mine to LTE/WCDMA. Will know how it goes next week.
All seems to be working on my end.
I was having delays in mms being sent. I was using the default APN. About a week ago I changed the APN to the one recommended by T-Mobile. Mms sends instantly now just about. I don't think it's effected much on LTE but I didn't have problems before. Make sure your on the proper APN
I sure hope there isnt a recall..My XL hasnt even shipped yet and im on Tmo
I spoke with a t-mobile rep yesterday who helped me get my issue resolved. My main apn was set up incorrectly. Now I am connected to LTE and not just hspa+. I get generally good speeds most everywhere and I have tower right by my house that must go fairly unused.