Hi,
I've just read an "ancient" Zenfone 2 camera review. When I look back to my own Zen, it have too much noises when I take pictures indoor. I remember in the first day with this phone on LP, i didn't experience this. Now it have much noise on stock MM, CM13 based roms and as well as AOSP roms.
I need some one explain to me
Thanks in advance
Extra: Below is 2 pic taken in Dirty Unicorn (MM) and Stock LP
MM pic is taken about 5PM while LP taken at 9PM. Of course MM pic will have more light but it distorted and not as clear as LP one. Taken in same room, same table, same object and angle
Update: The comparision in the attachment maybe incorrect. See post #9
Sent from my ASUS_Z008 using Tapatalk
HungNgocPhat said:
Hi,
I've just read an "ancient" Zenfone 2 camera review. When I look back to my own Zen, it have too much noises when I take pictures indoor. I remember in the first day with this phone on LP, i didn't experience this. Now it have much noise on stock MM, CM13 based roms and as well as AOSP roms.
I need some one explain to me
Thanks in advance
Sent from my ASUS_Z008 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've noticed that too. I thought it was just my lens or something. But if you have it too......
Sent from my ASUS_Z00AD using Tapatalk
kenbo111 said:
I've noticed that too. I thought it was just my lens or something. But if you have it too......
Sent from my ASUS_Z00AD using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It used to be a good cameraphone when it was running LP.
My friend's ZenFone Max after update to MM still take good pictures.
I attached below 2 pic taken by Zen Max and Zen 2 both run MM, as same place and same time (worse is Zen 2).
I downgrade my phone to LP and it has better battery life, better camera, better customization.
I added a pic taken by 5.0 in the OP for conparision
Turn on your flash, that will shoo them away.
bmMachine said:
Turn on your flash, that will shoo them away.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
At long distance where flash couldn't reach, LP still take better pics than MM. 2 pic in OP none of them was taken by flash
Yeah.
Pic 1:
There are too much noises when I captured my notebook's screen on Friday.
Pic 2:
I captured tasks written on school's whiteboard on Saturday, in a room with many windows opened.
Sent from my ASUS_Z00A using XDA Labs
HungNgocPhat said:
Hi,
I've just read an "ancient" Zenfone 2 camera review. When I look back to my own Zen, it have too much noises when I take pictures indoor. I remember in the first day with this phone on LP, i didn't experience this. Now it have much noise on stock MM, CM13 based roms and as well as AOSP roms.
I need some one explain to me
Thanks in advance
Extra: Below is 2 pic taken in Dirty Unicorn (MM) and Stock LP
MM pic is taken about 5PM while LP taken at 9PM. Of course MM pic will have more light but it distorted and not as clear as LP one. Taken in same room, same table, same object and angle
Sent from my ASUS_Z008 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The comparison is incorrect.
The first image averages in a very dark one. Camera tries to compensate this to 18% grey when calculating exposure. As a result you get overexposed image (look at yellow color in your first example).
On the second image there is a fair amount of bright areas (magazine) which averages in a lot of brighter image for exposure calculation algorythm. Here you get a more accurate exposure and as a result correct display of all colors of rubic's cube.
If you knew this before taking photos, you would use negative exposure compensation for the first shot (kind of a common sense for traditional film and dslr users like myself) and get slightly darker image with perfect colors of rubic's cube and darker background and, thus less noise.
hope this helps.
I know what you feel bros, same here in cm13. I didnt know this issue, until I replied on CM 13 thread complaining the camera's quality (beacause I thought it was the rom). Maybe it's the app pixel master itself dont get along well with mm?
chiudikas said:
The comparison is incorrect.
The first image averages in a very dark one. Camera tries to compensate this to 18% grey when calculating exposure. As a result you get overexposed image (look at yellow color in your first example).
On the second image there is a fair amount of bright areas (magazine) which averages in a lot of brighter image for exposure calculation algorythm. Here you get a more accurate exposure and as a result correct display of all colors of rubic's cube.
If you knew this before taking photos, you would use negative exposure compensation for the first shot (kind of a common sense for traditional film and dslr users like myself) and get slightly darker image with perfect colors of rubic's cube and darker background and, thus less noise.
hope this helps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I re-updated to MM only to prove this.
Here us the re-comparision. Same light condition. I took MM pics 15min after LP one
I added the description to the corner of the image
6P = MM AOSP with PixelMaster
6S = MM AOSP with stock camera (AOSP)
5 = stock LP with PixelMaster
HungNgocPhat said:
I re-updated to MM only to prove this.
Here us the re-comparision. Same light condition. I took MM pics 15min after LP one
I added the description to the corner of the image
6P = MM AOSP with PixelMaster
6S = MM AOSP with stock camera (AOSP)
5 = stock LP with PixelMaster
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here, this is a much better comparison, but as I understand you use some third party AOSP MM ROM, right? There may be an issue with pixelmaster not working completly 100% as it should be working on stock MM. To prove this here is a picture I took yesterday with stock MM PixelMaster Camera. Noise is there of course as it was taken indoors but it seems stock rom pixelmaster involves some kind of postprocessing to reduce noise. Also I would suggest you to compare EXIF of your shots to see if ISO and exposure settings are the same. If they differ you can try shotting this test in manual mode with the same settings across ROMS.
chiudikas said:
Here, this is a much better comparison, but as I understand you use some third party AOSP MM ROM, right? There may be an issue with pixelmaster not working completly 100% as it should be working on stock MM. To prove this here is a picture I took yesterday with stock MM PixelMaster Camera. Noise is there of course as it was taken indoors but it seems stock rom pixelmaster involves some kind of postprocessing to reduce noise. Also I would suggest you to compare EXIF of your shots to see if ISO and exposure settings are the same. If they differ you can try shotting this test in manual mode with the same settings across ROMS.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not a pro in photography so I don't know what is exif or exposure. But your cam's quality is perfect compared to mine. And yes, I'm using a custom ROM. May be I should downgrade to stock MM to see if it good or not. If it still bad, may be I should report this to ASUS.
Edit: I flashed custom-stock MM (RussiaNBear). The camera is as good as LP (only when take in manual mode, auto mode still bad)
The pic with date stamp is taken by AOSP M, the rest is taken by RussiaNBear.
Sorry one of the image is flipped
Stock ROM photos will ALWAYS be better then the one's taken in CM.
There is nothing we can do about it.
Related
Hi,
I have/had many Smartphones apart from the P930. Somehow the picture quality of the P930 is the worst. Both picture and video capturing. Is this normal or some problem with my P930?
Cheers,
sb
As i know the camera module was produced by sony and it has good quality. Quality depends from which rom are you using. My point of view is that camera on stock rom (2,3; 4.0; and miui v4) is much better than on custom (i mean CM and Other)
the pictures from the rom in my sig are great, it's based off stock ics but custom kernel etc
warning you need to be unbricked and rooted etc, which isn't easy if you are new at moding phones
I tested all ROMs, also Mattman's and the Stock ROMs. The picture quality is quite bad in my opinion. Also the autofocus is not very good. Do you think this is a bug in my smartphone?
Mine is actually quite nice. In fact, I've submitted a few pictures to a couple contests and placed.
mattman86 said:
Mine is actually quite nice. In fact, I've submitted a few pictures to a couple contests and placed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How is your autofocus?
Can you post the samples?
I've got 'prosumer' level photography equipment, so my opinions are jaded. That said, when I first got my Nitro I HATED the camera! It was extremely slow to take a picture and the amount of time it took between taking 1 picture until it could take another seemed like FOREVER. Blur, subpar color rendition...So yeah, I wasn't happy with the camera.
But since putting CM10.1 on, the camera software is LEAPS and BOUNDS better. Shooting speed is MUCH faster, the time between shots is MUCH shorter. The color rendition is much better, the auto-focus works better (click on area to focus)...Even in lower light conditions I get decent shots now. I can easily and wholeheartedly recommend using the CM10.1 camera vs. stock (Well, Stock OS when it first came out, ICS Stock might be worlds better too).
...All of this is at 1.0x zoom. Start using the digital zoom and all bets are off. Grain and blur run rampant the more you zoom.
Hi ..
I bought the device from LG G4 H815 from CLOVE website and for some reason the camera quality is poor daylight compared to my previous device G3.
After I took a picture I made zoom in to check the quality , and here I find that image noise / blurred G3 compared to a photo in G3 ...
How is it possible, it happens to you too?
Another thing I did not have the option of adjusting 8-megapixel, 13 megapixel (as there is in LG G3)
I'd love to know if there is such a thing ...
The quality is really bad ..
I'm with:
5.1
Build Number: LMY47D
Software Version: V10b-EUR-XX
regards,
Tomer.
Info
TOMER628 said:
Hi ..
I bought the device from LG G4 H815 from CLOVE website and for some reason the camera quality is poor daylight compared to my previous device G3.
After I took a picture I made zoom in to check the quality , and here I find that image noise / blurred G3 compared to a photo in G3 ...
How is it possible, it happens to you too?
Another thing I did not have the option of adjusting 8-megapixel, 13 megapixel (as there is in LG G3)
I'd love to know if there is such a thing ...
The quality is really bad ..
I'm with:
5.1
Build Number: LMY47D
Software Version: V10b-EUR-XX
regards,
Tomer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just check If there is same modification in Camera Settings
there is different pic ratio in auto mode for instance.
:good:
thank you for your reply
same ratio, but still picture not good...:crying:
can you add a photo for me (from your G4) ?
in Basic Mode ...
Ive checked up on this and from what I have read:
16:9 = 16MPx / 4:3 = 12 MPx / 1:1 = 8.5MPx (ill try and find the link)
With camera quality.. I know it sounds crazy, but I found cleaning my IR Laser focus and camera lens with Glass or lens cleaner worked for me (remember do not spray cleaner on the lens, apply it to a cloth, then polish the lens with the cloth) and wipe it VERY VERY Gently with a micro fibre cloth or an optical Glasses cloth ,
next Goto > Settings > Display > scroll down to More > Motion sensior calibration (lay it on a very flat surface).. and set it.. (try it a few times)
Motion sensor calibration sets the OIS and all the camera and focus sensors up.
Hope this helps..
Heres the thread here, but its an Android Central forum post, so Im not sure how reliable it is..
http://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-g4/533774-lg-g4-camera-settings-megapixel.html
Cheers
NightOrchid said:
Heres the thread here, but its an Android Central forum post, so Im not sure how reliable it is..
http://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-g4/533774-lg-g4-camera-settings-megapixel.html
Cheers
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for that..
i tried to clean and calibrate the G4, but still the quality of camera not good (even like G3)...
i attached also some pictures to give you taste from my problem with this camera..
I think the quality here is worse, the trees Smeared -not sharp (capture with 16: 9) ...
http://imageshack.com/a/img538/4183/NIRGSF.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img673/7079/dNHvrV.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img673/8522/yncySQ.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img901/2442/D6Jpo8.jpg
TOMER628 said:
Thanks for that..
i tried to clean and calibrate the G4, but still the quality of camera not good (even like G3)...
i attached also some pictures to give you taste from my problem with this camera..
I think the quality here is worse, the trees Smeared -not sharp (capture with 16: 9) ...
http://imageshack.com/a/img538/4183/NIRGSF.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img673/7079/dNHvrV.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img673/8522/yncySQ.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img901/2442/D6Jpo8.jpg
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Those pictures look fine to me. Show us the supposedly better pictures of the same thing taken with the G3.
Sent from my LG-H815 using XDA Forums Pro.
Please compare your photos to mine https://imgur.com/a/tqbEJ
If your quality is worse, i think u might have a bad camera sensor, try to replace the unit.
Derpling said:
Please compare your photos to mine https://imgur.com/a/tqbEJ
If your quality is worse, i think u might have a bad camera sensor, try to replace the unit.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
wish i had good quality like your photos..
i think you right i will try to replace with new unit..
gtg465x said:
Those pictures look fine to me. Show us the supposedly better pictures of the same thing taken with the G3.
Sent from my LG-H815 using XDA Forums Pro.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Im inclined to agree with others here.. they look fine to me. Can I ask you to take some images of smaller objects with close up detail, such as flowers, kids toys, pets, food./. etc.. also, can you post the same pics taken with your G3. Take all pics in 16:9 ratio on both devices, full auto mode without flash.
If you have an issue, it may be the OIS.
They are beautiful pics. look in the bottom left hand corner of the ones youve taken or zoom in places.. theres lovely detail in the brick work.
I've actually noticed the same sort of thing with mine. I think the phone's postprocessing is too strong. Pictures of things like animals and trees almost look like an oil painting filter has been applied if you zoom in on them. Check out the fur on the picture I attached- LG's algorithm doesn't know what to do with images that have a lot of small, complex elements like leaves or fur. Thankfully that's something that could be patched, but I haven't heard many other people noticing it so I doubt it will be.
1. You never ever look at photos of this size. When looked at in a reasonable size, the pictures look awesome. When you downsize the pictures to a reasonable picturesize you would print, look at them again. You won't see those flaws.
2. Postprocessing of the jpegs is really to heavy and when you take a look at the DNGs, you see a real improvement over the jpegs. And I prefer the DNGs, since I can handle all of the parameters myself in Lightroom.
I think we will see some patches to the camera and postprocessing in the future, since LG is aware of the issue with the jpegs.
tripex2k said:
1. You never ever look at photos of this size. When looked at in a reasonable size, the pictures look awesome. When you downsize the pictures to a reasonable picturesize you would print, look at them again. You won't see those flaws.
2. Postprocessing of the jpegs is really to heavy and when you take a look at the DNGs, you see a real improvement over the jpegs. And I prefer the DNGs, since I can handle all of the parameters myself in Lightroom.
I think we will see some patches to the camera and postprocessing in the future, since LG is aware of the issue with the jpegs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed here. That photo is briliant, however, yes I agree, LGs processing is very aggressive as is the OIS, so you get over-sharpening, One of the pit falls In photography is to digitally zoom into your images on your PC to check the sharpness, but this is a very bad habit to start and very hard to break.. try to avoid doing this.
In truth... no-body looks at an image 20 or 30x digitally zoomed.. Pictures are to be enjoyed and the camera is only as good as the photographer, so get the light right, frame your subject as big as you can in the view finder, by walking upto your subject and framing it.. not digitally zooming and get creative ... Its so easy to get caught up in the technology that we forget why we take photographs.. which is to either save our memories or create our art. To me, youtube reviewers started this crazy trend of digitally zooming everywhere, so some folk think that a good photograph is one that after a digital zoom you can read the text on a road sign 500 yards away and missing all the image round about.. this is not photography, its zooming.
If your just taking pictures for the technically sharp image, then.. go and buy a DSLR, because no phone camera will ever do it.
Hand on heart, some of the best images Ive ever taken were with an HTC One M8s 4UPX camera.. zoomed n they look like my nephews cra*py MineCraft game, but the image itself.. looks stunning.
Bottom Line, Enjoy your images and the love of photography.. the G4 is one of the best cameras on a phone Ive ever used..
However, if your not happy with the G4s camera.. either return it or buy a nice compact or bridge camera..
Enjoy Photo fans..
but the my quality camera (what i captured here before) is good ?
i mean this not bad sensor or something, right ?
I thought they looked ok, personally. Can you post comparison pics from the G3 (the same pics taken on each, preferably), to demonstrate the issue you are referring to?
Yes, I agree with the subsequent comments. Many years ago I ran motorized Nikons, and did my own color processing and printing, and I like to think I still have an eye for a decent print. I looked at two of the pictures, and while I might have suggested one click higher on the ISO (and that's just personal preference, really) I don't see anything wrong with the pictures.
Enzo
TOMER628 said:
but the my quality camera (what i captured here before) is good ?
i mean this not bad sensor or something, right ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Speaking personnally, I think your pictures look great and their really nice, I know youve mentioned this in your OP, but take another look at them and can you tell us what is it about your images that you think is wrong?
RedOCtobyr said:
I thought they looked ok, personally. Can you post comparison pics from the G3 (the same pics taken on each, preferably), to demonstrate the issue you are referring to?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep, Post some G3 pics,,, a good thing to do here is take exactly the same images with the G3 and G4 then compare them and post them here.
enzo ferraro said:
Yes, I agree with the subsequent comments. Many years ago I ran motorized Nikons, and did my own color processing and printing, and I like to think I still have an eye for a decent print. I looked at two of the pictures, and while I might have suggested one click higher on the ISO (and that's just personal preference, really) I don't see anything wrong with the pictures.
Enzo
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My dad used tr be a wedding photographer before he retired, but he still owns one of the original Rolliflex cameras. These days though I own a Canon SX700. Do you still have any of your Nikons
Another aspect of photography is that whenever you change your camera, youll always get differences thats why Photographers have multiple cameras... such as My canon has a minimum focal distance of 1cm and a 30x Optical zoom, so Ide use it for Macro ( small close up), yet my Olympus stylus 1 has quite nice sharpening and a wide angle Aperture of f3.2 so ide use it for landscapes.
Again, I have to say Tomer, I think your images are great, Heres an experiment you can try which might help.. take your camera out.. and take a few images of things that make you happy and what you want... completely forget about images that show off the camera tech, maybe your kids or friends or something like that,... download them to your PC and look at them.. dont zoom.. then see how you feel about your G4.
Heres the Image I took with a 4 Mpx HTC M8..
Its not technically brilliant, but it was a fun day and thats all that matters.
No, the Nikons and a trillion dollars worth of glass went long ago. I very much miss the film, but just wearied of carrying around a backbreaking load of gear. The digital image is not as good as film, and I don't care what anybody claims to the contrary on that, but I do agree completely that the best camera is the one you have at hand when the picture opportunity arises, and clearly the phone camera wins by a mile on that score.
Enzo
OP, I think a very easy test here would be to take the same photo using JPG, and again using RAW. Then, look at each zoomed in. You should see that the JPG has compression artifacts, but the RAW does not. Then, you will see the camera quality capabilities in the RAW to verify the camera is fine, and perhaps you are just seeing software compression artifacts in JPG.
In fact, it would be interesting to see those two pictures if you could post them here. Choose a subject that has a pattern that will give the JPG compression algorithm trouble, like the cat fur or many leaves/blades of grass at a distance, to make the difference more pronounced.
here couple of pictures ftom today...
this the result :
http://imageshack.com/a/img673/2597/P4I5q9.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img537/7629/n4t0aA.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img538/9131/AySMqD.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img908/1512/3YRk1w.jpg
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the LG G5 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
G3 was better!
slickyboy said:
G3 was better!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No way bro
My v10 has fantastic camera
rowihel2012 said:
No way bro
My v10 has fantastic camera
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This thread is about the G5's camera, so that's irrelevant... Unless, of course, they use the same camera and I didn't know?
But I still agree with you. I don't see how that's possible that the G3 has a better camera.
xanderin said:
This thread is about the G5's camera, so that's irrelevant... Unless, of course, they use the same camera and I didn't know?
But I still agree with you. I don't see how that's possible that the G3 has a better camera.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yea they have the same sensor
and i had g3 it has bad cam beside my lg v10
I came from the S7 and before that the iPhone 6s Plus. I can't take decent photos with the G5 to save my life. It's frustrating.
What?? Is it true that G5 has worst camera ? Phonearena says it has best camera when compared with S7 and 6s plus.
krk2krk said:
What?? Is it true that G5 has worst camera ? Phonearena says it has best camera when compared with S7 and 6s plus.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you put it in manual mode and mess with it a bit it'll take great pics. Auto mode sucks. For me at least. And yes, I've made sure the lens is clean and all that.
mikeyinid said:
If you put it in manual mode and mess with it a bit it'll take great pics. Auto mode sucks. For me at least. And yes, I've made sure the lens is clean and all that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I understand. But it is hard to take all the pics in manual mode. I have G3 now and planning to by G5 in a couple of months and it seems i have to rethink about G5.
Yeah, this phone takes great manual photos, but that's about it. The anti-shake was way better in the G4 over the G5- does the G5 no longer have the laser focus? It was incredible how good the pictures were with the flash off on the G4; in my experience, most phones (including Samsung) take shaky photos with flash off, and are able to focus much better with flash on.
Also, like in all LG phones, panorama is completely useless. They should just get rid of the feature altogether. It doesn't matter how slow or steady I move, everything always comes out jagged. Very annoying.
yeah, I feel the same, my dads G3 camera is awesome... but even under the the G5s latest v10d, the images were clearer and OIS was more stable on the G4 in AUTO mode. I do use Manual mode alot, but sometimes its nice just to pull out your phone and snap a quick situation or a few quick images.
Intrestingly, I find sometimes in "Auto" mode, switiching "OIS" OFF (toggle "OIS" and "steady cam" mode in camera settings), takes better Macro shots, which says to me.. that in its current state, the G5 camera needs work.
However, the G5 camera is a really great camera and a really great device all round, its just a shame reviewers seem to go more for how it looks rather than its innovations
Mine are crisper and more detailed with g4, specially the front canera. Could be this due to an high compression? Maybe there's a trick to loer jpeg compression!
G3 was far better..!
Mery Alpes said:
G3 was far better..!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nonsense.
LOL! The worst camera comparison in history. I am not saying G5 is the best but it is certainly not what the website said it was.
Hey look! Comments section was closed. Go figures.
Anyway, the last close up shot was the worst! No reputable review site would use close up image more than 100%. These are camera sensor made for phones, they are not meant to be zoom beyond 100%.
I Love this phone's Cameras: my pics are coming out better, sharper and better balanced than any other phone i have had my hands on this months and that includes: 6s, 6s+, G4, and S7. Of course this is subjective but i really LOVE the camera. (Auto mode is meh tough when compared to 6s', need to be objective there. I was taking a pic today: my girlfriend's face with a stongly lighted background _door in the sun_ and even if messing wigh manual mode gave me the best pic, auto mode just wasn't keeping it up with my gf's 6s which gave out a decent picture immediately.)
Gotta be honest. (Of course i didn't tell her )
I'm somehow disappointed. The camera oversharpens the pictures most of the time. But the wide-angle camera always oversharpens them. I wonder if it could be fixed with a newer software? Also the pictures get blurry at the slightest movement. But it's still a good camera.
4/5
very high
Camera is very good especially in Manual mode but one thing I found out about the Auto mode that HDR tends to blur details a lot more when zoomig in than taking picture with HDR option turned Off. Hope they improve the camera on Nougat update.
I'm also pretty disappointed with the quality of the G5 pictures in auto mode. Not that they're bad or anything, but I find myself having to take multiple pictures to get acceptable results, particularly in poor lighting. Never had that issue with my G4.
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Google Pixel come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I'm personally really liking the camera. Camera is always my top priority and I've gone through five phones in the past year trying to find the complete package. I'm coming directly from a S7. While I wish the main camera has a few more trucks up its sleeve it is quick and I love how it animates and names collages etc from the app instead of having to upload the photos to google photos and do the processing there.
I'll be putting up random shots over the next few days in my Google Photos folder: https://goo.gl/photos/vYAoiyxMw5VGSGPHA I tried attaching many of the shots but XDA yells at me for going over the size limit!
It's good. On par with my s7 edge other than maybe having better dynamic range.
Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
I'm really torn between my S7 and my Pixel for image quality tbh, I did quite a few comparisons on a blog this afternoon, results are here
https://carljones.wordpress.com/2016/10/22/pixel-vs-galaxys7/
Attached a few thumbnail images, full-size ones on blog post.
In some instances I prefer the pixel, in others the galaxy, I wish the built-in camera app on pixel had a pro/manual mode.
The low light performance is night and day (if you'll pardon the pun) coming from a Moto X 2014. Fast and sharp, which comes in handy when trying to grab shots of my hamster. Resolution not original but this is in VERY low light.
I have had the S7 Edge, S7, Note 7 and now the Pixel. Had the S6 Edge before that as well as an Honor 8 with its dual camera. Basically, I too have tried nearly every phone that's been out this year looking for the best camera as that's the most important thing to me too.
I never quite liked the S7 camera despite the reviews and ratings. What the reviews don't tell you is that the f 1.7 aperture means a very very narrow 'field of focus'. i.e., large parts of the same photo will be blurry / out of focus. I am not talking about depth of field, I am well aware of what that is and the implication of the f 1.7. Depth of field applies to macro shots. What I am talking about is different parts of photos being out of focus even for landscape shots or general everyday shots where the entire photo is expected to be in focus.
I got around this with my S7 era cameras by using pro mode and multi-AF with matrix metering. But pro mode cannot be set as default, so you had to launch the app and manually switch to pro mode each time.
Anyway, I like the Pixel camera a lot. I think an f 2.0 is a good spec for a camera phone. Anything higher than that comes with too many compromises. There has been a lot of advancement in 2016 in smartphone camers, but they are all around the 12 mp resolution. I'd like to see the same advancements (PDAF, LAF, dual pixel etc.) be made with higher resolution. You can only get so much detail from a 12 mp sensor...
Come on guys dont be cheap, lets see it!
Snapped these last night downtown.
Sorry, wrong forum/post.
Took these just for the ****s of it
I've been mostly pleased with the Pixel's camera. It's very *good*. But after a week using it alongside my S7 and iPhone 7, I'd still rather have either of those in my pocket as my day to day shooter. The Pixel tends to take dimmer/darker shots because it's trying so hard to balance out dynamic range. This can make for some really great shots, but it can also really underexpose if there's a focal point (like, I don't know, a person?) in the shot you're taking. The Pixel also struggles with auto-focus, or its auto-focus simply isn't very intelligent.
Example, kids within a couple of feet of me... 5 shots with the Pixel, each one of them came out underexposed and with their faces blurry, even when I tried to get it to re-focus. My iPhone 7 got them in one shot and properly exposed their faces. In those shots, the Pixel's shots looked great in the background of the photo, but the focus of the pictures were not well-handled. The iPhone 7's shot overexposed the background a bit, but it nailed the focus of the pictures the first time.
It's a very good camera, but I think it's still a step below the top flagships from Samsung and Apple right now, when taking into account all aspects of the cameras.
Examples?
Okay so I'm gonna put it out there. I found my Nexus 6P camera perform better than the Pixel. In fact, I'm gonna say that in some low light conditions, my wife's iPhone 6 Plus performed better, which hasn't been true for me in the last 2 years.
Regarding autofocus in VIDEO, it absolutely nails it and I could not get it to fault. I was able to get it very close to the subject too. I find in shooting PICTURES only, the autofocus is not as reliable. Besides, the HDRa is actually not as good as HDR+. I thought they made HDR ALWAYS ON but it seems this isn't the case. I also found the frame rate switching to be a pain in video. You have to back out of the viewfinder to settings of the app and choose the resolution for the right FPS options to show.
I will share some comparisons with the Pixel v the 6Plus later tonight.
Sent from my Pixel using XDA-Developers mobile app
Has anyone had issues with bad stitching for panorama shots? Everyone I've taken has had some pretty bad misalignment. I understand you want to keep the phone in relatively the same spot the whole time and that the closer things are the harder it is to get it right, but even my co workers S5 takes better panorama shots than this...
Edit: I should also note I'm using the stock Google camera panorama option and set the quality to "high". App looks like it's up to date.
*Attached a sample image*
Sent from my Google Pixel
rickyg946 said:
Has anyone had issues with bad stitching for panorama shots? Everyone I've taken has had some pretty bad misalignment. I understand you want to keep the phone in relatively the same spot the whole time and that the closer things are the harder it is to get it right, but even my co workers S5 takes better panorama shots than this...
Edit: I should also note I'm using the stock Google camera panorama option and set the quality to "high". App looks like it's up to date.
*Attached a sample image*
Sent from my Google Pixel
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes, but this is not new to the pixel. my nexus 5X (and i understand the 6P, and even previous nexus/google phones) had the same issue. no matter how well i align, it seems to always stitch poorly. What's odd is that if you use the Photosphere mode to take the same "panoramic" shot, the stitching is vastly improved. I'm still very surprised this doesn't surface in the reviews. maybe no one takes panoramas anymore? maybe you and I are just really bad at it?!
fitchpuckman said:
yes, but this is not new to the pixel. my nexus 5X (and i understand the 6P, and even previous nexus/google phones) had the same issue. no matter how well i align, it seems to always stitch poorly. What's odd is that if you use the Photosphere mode to take the same "panoramic" shot, the stitching is vastly improved. I'm still very surprised this doesn't surface in the reviews. maybe no one takes panoramas anymore? maybe you and I are just really bad at it?!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ah, ok, I'll give photosphere a shot. Yea I'm surprised I haven't seen more people complain about it. Or maybe it really is just us ?
Sent from my Google Pixel
rickyg946 said:
Ah, ok, I'll give photosphere a shot. Yea I'm surprised I haven't seen more people complain about it.
Sent from my Moto X+2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
agreed. even trying/having luck with photosphere isn't the solution, this should just work. I was definitely disappointed after my initial use of the camera being so positive, then a few days later realizing the basic panorama stitching was still crappy. good thing is these things are typically almost completely software related, bad thing is there's strangely no push for google to improve it.
rickyg946 said:
Has anyone had issues with bad stitching for panorama shots? Everyone I've taken has had some pretty bad misalignment. I understand you want to keep the phone in relatively the same spot the whole time and that the closer things are the harder it is to get it right, but even my co workers S5 takes better panorama shots than this...
Edit: I should also note I'm using the stock Google camera panorama option and set the quality to "high". App looks like it's up to date.
*Attached a sample image*
Sent from my Google Pixel
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes I have this issue too
Sent from my Pixel using XDA-Developers mobile app
I have the XT1797 dual sim with single (NOT DUAL) rear camera and the pictures it takes are truly awful. The worst I have seen on any phone, even my old Nokia C2, 3.2 megapixel camera works better then this one. The pictures taken with auto settings are all very dark and missing most of the detail. I can mess around with pro settings, brighten up the image by over-exposing, and mess with white balance and ISO settings, and get some more detail, but the pictures are still washed out, dull, lifeless and crappy.
Are other people seeing similar poor results or have I gotten a dud?
memetix said:
I have the XT1797 dual sim with single (NOT DUAL) rear camera and the pictures it takes are truly awful. The worst I have seen on any phone, even my old Nokia C2, 3.2 megapixel camera works better then this one. The pictures taken with auto settings are all very dark and missing most of the detail. I can mess around with pro settings, brighten up the image by over-exposing, and mess with white balance and ISO settings, and get some more detail, but the pictures are still washed out, dull, lifeless and crappy.
Are other people seeing similar poor results or have I gotten a dud?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe you can try this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g5s/themes/google-camera-port-hdr-t3700896
Try Open Camera? Obviously Motorola isn't good at tweaking camera app...
michael50310 said:
Try Open Camera? Obviously Motorola isn't good at tweaking camera app...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes I have tried it but unfortunately it doesnt do panorama pics (which is mostly what I use) and I couldnt figure out how to get it to use the max screen resolution or format as the stock camera. I tried some other camera apps such as the google port here on xda but it was flakey as hell, and the other ones i tried were missing features with no improvement in quality.
My old phone moto droid razr m with 8mp camera was heaps better. In fact it was a much better phone then this one.
the camera itself is actually well done and good but the firmware and original software is awful
I'm using Camera API 2 and that one https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g5s/themes/google-camera-port-hdr-t3700896
on lineageos with vaserbanix' rainbox kernel > https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g5s/development/kernel-tweaks-t3744384
Updated to stock oreo 8.1 and the camera is much better now.