Using the OP3 for 5 days now and still struggling a lot . Somehow I got the message about no space on the storage although there were not many files there. So had to do a reset, and reinstalled all apps a fresh.
I am horribly addicted to the DND , Block Caller , Memo and Email Client of Samsung. I assumed that the OP3 being a Android phone, would have all of these and more.
I have installed a app (Do not Disturb) for the DND which seems to be working fine. Can someone suggest a workaround for the other three problems, i.e Block Caller, Memo (where I can import samsung memos) and email client like Samsung, please.
I would like to keep the phone and am making all efforts to work towards that. All advice will be highly appreciated.
A stupid question, would all these problems be overcome with a downgrade to Marshamallow, if that is possible at all ?
- use google keep for memo (its better)
- tons of options for email, you can use Gmail for starters (even for Microsoft Exchange), or check out BlueMail if you want to try a third party.
if you're trying to get these on stock OOS with no root/xposed:
- create a contact called SPAM and add callers you want to block to that, then make that contact's calls all go to voicemail
if you're willing to unlock BL & root:
- Flash Google Dialer w/ framework to block callers
- use Root Call Blocker
2x4 said:
- use google keep for memo (its better)
- tons of options for email, you can use Gmail for starters (even for Microsoft Exchange), or check out BlueMail if you want to try a third party.
if you're trying to get these on stock OOS with no root/xposed:
- create a contact called SPAM and add callers you want to block to that, then make that contact's calls all go to voicemail
if you're willing to unlock BL & root:
- Flash Google Dialer w/ framework to block callers
- use Root Call Blocker
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truecaller is another easy option to block spam calls.
bonham1988 said:
truecaller is another easy option to block spam calls.
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yes, but i dislike it since they upload your whole contacts list to their servers which is a huge privacy issue IMO
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yes, but i dislike it since they upload your whole contacts list to their servers which is a huge privacy issue IMO
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Yes i know but since millions of people are already using it so they already have most of our phone contacts anyway. The only thing that we can do is just get our own number removed from their database.
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Yes i know but since millions of people are already using it so they already have most of our phone contacts anyway. The only thing that we can do is just get our own number removed from their database.
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that doesn't make it OK.
I blocked my number and those of all my friends and family on their service to mitigate that.
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that doesn't make it OK.
I blocked my number and those of all my friends and family on their service to mitigate that.
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Ok but to be honest doesnt bother me much. Plus you cannot remove a number from their database whose has an active true caller account so i do hope you had everyone deactivate their accounts also first.
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Thanks for your reply. Gmail does not go to the Combined view of Inbox directly, dislike that. Needed a simple client which is included with the phone. Have tried BlueMail found it very complicated. I dont mind rooting if I can get a permanent solution to my problems.
About Truecaller or any other Dialler which uploads the phone book, is a huge issue for me and I dont want to do that.
About Google Keep, have tried that. Didnt like it. Besides I have hundreds of notes on my Samsung Memo with Titanium backups available, all lost.
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Using the OP3 for 5 days now and still struggling a lot . Somehow I got the message about no space on the storage although there were not many files there. So had to do a reset, and reinstalled all apps a fresh.
I am horribly addicted to the DND , Block Caller , Memo and Email Client of Samsung. I assumed that the OP3 being a Android phone, would have all of these and more.
I have installed a app (Do not Disturb) for the DND which seems to be working fine. Can someone suggest a workaround for the other three problems, i.e Block Caller, Memo (where I can import samsung memos) and email client like Samsung, please.
I would like to keep the phone and am making all efforts to work towards that. All advice will be highly appreciated.
A stupid question, would all these problems be overcome with a downgrade to Marshamallow, if that is possible at all ?
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You are issues rare, it also tells how diverse this world is. Most people here, specially me, just hate Samsung UI, missing frame rates and lags, chinese looking touchwiz. Good to know, some people prefer it as well. I exchanged galaxy S7 for OP3 with commitment never to buy Samsung again, i feel you have opposite issues
There are tones of memo applications, oneNote it's working fine and also you can sync with the widows os, using a branded application such Samsung's crap which you can't ported to other devices it's risky, Samsung like Apple are pushing us to use their own ****, less flexibility
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You should try HydrogenOS v0.10 which comes with its own notes app and you can block or record calls directly from the phone app. For email, I myself use Inbox from Google which works great but try few from PlayStore.
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Using the OP3 for 5 days now and still struggling a lot . Somehow I got the message about no space on the storage although there were not many files there. So had to do a reset, and reinstalled all apps a fresh.
I am horribly addicted to the DND , Block Caller , Memo and Email Client of Samsung. I assumed that the OP3 being a Android phone, would have all of these and more.
I have installed a app (Do not Disturb) for the DND which seems to be working fine. Can someone suggest a workaround for the other three problems, i.e Block Caller, Memo (where I can import samsung memos) and email client like Samsung, please.
I would like to keep the phone and am making all efforts to work towards that. All advice will be highly appreciated.
A stupid question, would all these problems be overcome with a downgrade to Marshamallow, if that is possible at all ?
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Why did you buy OP3 instead of Samsung?
I mean, if you prefer Samsung stile why did you change it for a pure android one?
Anyway, I'm looking for an OP3. If you would like to sell it to buy a Samsung device I would like to help you.
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There are tones of memo applications, oneNote it's working fine and also you can sync with the widows os, using a branded application such Samsung's crap which you can't ported to other devices it's risky, Samsung like Apple are pushing us to use their own ****, less flexibility
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Thanks for your reply. Yes I have had Onenote since ages on my phones, never thought of using it as a memo pad. Infact it is a very good suggestion, the Quick notes are really handly and get synced to all devices too.
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Using the OP3 for 5 days now and still struggling a lot . Somehow I got the message about no space on the storage although there were not many files there. So had to do a reset, and reinstalled all apps a fresh.
I am horribly addicted to the DND , Block Caller , Memo and Email Client of Samsung. I assumed that the OP3 being a Android phone, would have all of these and more.
I have installed a app (Do not Disturb) for the DND which seems to be working fine. Can someone suggest a workaround for the other three problems, i.e Block Caller, Memo (where I can import samsung memos) and email client like Samsung, please.
I would like to keep the phone and am making all efforts to work towards that. All advice will be highly appreciated.
A stupid question, would all these problems be overcome with a downgrade to Marshamallow, if that is possible at all ?
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For memo i would suggest google keep or colornote, for mail you can try outlook, for call blocking you can try call blocker by nq mobile security it works good for me.
And if you root it to some other custom rom like resurrection rom i think there is an inbult feature of call blocking..
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Using the OP3 for 5 days now and still struggling a lot . Somehow I got the message about no space on the storage although there were not many files there. So had to do a reset, and reinstalled all apps a fresh.
I am horribly addicted to the DND , Block Caller , Memo and Email Client of Samsung. I assumed that the OP3 being a Android phone, would have all of these and more.
I have installed a app (Do not Disturb) for the DND which seems to be working fine. Can someone suggest a workaround for the other three problems, i.e Block Caller, Memo (where I can import samsung memos) and email client like Samsung, please.
I would like to keep the phone and am making all efforts to work towards that. All advice will be highly appreciated.
A stupid question, would all these problems be overcome with a downgrade to Marshamallow, if that is possible at all ?
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Your first mistake is thinking that Samsung ships Android. They ship TouchWiz and add a bunch of "value added" crap most people don't care about. Most if not all of those things can be found on Google Play.
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I found this post on WP Central from a user by the name of "StrkerGT" and I have to agree with his findings and needs.
StrykerGt:
I jumped on the wagon on November 8 and got the Samsung Focus. I sold my iPhone 4 and I decided to keep it knowing that there are a lot of things missing on this OS but I know (if Microsoft really cares) will fix as soon as possible… Here is my list on the things that I consider missing in the telephone. I put them in order of FIX THIS NOW!!! to what I like in the future.
FIX THIS NOW!!!!!!!
• Visual Voicemail – Whoever decided to release the OS to the market without this should get fired right now! Come on Microsoft it is 2010 (almost 2011) this feature alone makes the phone look outdated. Please fix this a.s.a.p. I love to show off the telephone until someone asks to see the vm. This is inexcusable on this type of smartphone. Shame on you Microsoft!
• Global Address List - we have an Exchange Server 2003 (We have plans to upgrade to 2010 next year) in my company and it’s a pain to look for the contacts. Try to tell your boss about how awesome is the Windows Phone 7 OS and then tell him that in order to access the contacts on the GAL he has to put the address manually! This is something like the Visual Voice that has to be fixed now!
• HTML 5 – When I noticed that Microsoft put an already obsolete version of IE on the new Windows Phone 7 software without support for HTML 5 I said like in the WP7 ads, “Really?!” How come Microsoft that is telling everywhere that they are committed to HTML5 didn’t include it on the WP7 OS. Again, Microsoft, Really?!
• VPN Support - again come on!
• Marketplace Search – Hey Microsoft how about this, on the Marketplace put an option in Bing to filter what you want like apps, music etc. I hate to do a search for an app and get a bunch of other stuff like album, artist, song etc. The way you do it on the games hub is excellent please do the same in the Zune hub. I don’t go to the Zune hub to look for apps.
• Some kind of multi-tasking is much needed on this telephone Microsoft, get to work on this.
• SkyDrive Access I love the Skydrive concept but is completely ridiculous that I can put the files on the cloud but there is no way to access my documents directly on the phone. Something like Dropbox would be great.
• A favorite list for your contacts is a must, I really like the way this phone organize the contacts, but you always have that special list with contact you use more like family, friends etc. I don’t like to scroll to several work and business contacts to get what I need.
• Back Up/Restore – Please do something quick about this, there is no way to back up your settings, saved games, outlook configuration (certificates) downloaded apps etc. You have to re-download and re-configure everything every time that you reset your phone.
• Save Camera settings – It’s absurd to set everything every time that you use the camera. I feel like I have to put a flash bulb every time that I use the camera.
The things I want to see soon:
• I noticed that the telephone only vibrate once when you get a phone call. This is not good Microsoft. It should do both in case you have your telephone in the pocket or in a place with too much ambient noise.
• I’ll like to see the battery percentage on the notification bar. (I know the telephone already shows that information through one of the hacks but it will be great if I can see it easily.)
• Easier way to find the IP and MAC address. Again, (I know the telephone already shows that information through one of the hacks but it will be great if I can see it easily.)
• Add vibration to the Alarms
• Disable keys when playing games or at least pop a menu asking if you want to quit the app like the Facebook app.
• Run downloaded app directly from Marketplace
• Open file from any applications - example, open PDF files from Homepipe
• Unified Inbox or a mail Hub
• IE Address Bar in landscape mode
• Answer phone call when swipe up the lock screen
• Drop-Down notifications
• Outlook notifications (notification bar at the top, i.e. like receiving text messages)
• Volumes controls for Music, Notifications, Games, Alarms, etc.
• Market Place updates need to show what the update changes are.
I think that’s all for now, I’m planning to keep this phone because I know that this platform has a lot of room to grow but there are some things that have to be addressed now to put this platform on par with what other are already offering.
wsantiagow, your list is interesting and I agree with the vast majority of your points.
Especially this one:
wsantiagow said:
• SkyDrive Access I love the Skydrive concept but is completely ridiculous that I can put the files on the cloud but there is no way to access my documents directly on the phone. Something like Dropbox would be great.
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But I think most of them are on the way.... (I hope so)
wsantiagow said:
• Global Address List - we have an Exchange Server 2003 (We have plans to upgrade to 2010 next year) in my company and it’s a pain to look for the contacts. Try to tell your boss about how awesome is the Windows Phone 7 OS and then tell him that in order to access the contacts on the GAL he has to put the address manually! This is something like the Visual Voice that has to be fixed now!
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Mine works just fine. If you hit the search button in the People Hub you have an option to search the Exchange server. The same option appears when you're addressing an email message. We use Exchange 2007. Maybe it's 2003 that doesn't support it.
jeffgeno said:
Mine works just fine. If you hit the search button in the People Hub you have an option to search the Exchange server. The same option appears when you're addressing an email message. We use Exchange 2007. Maybe it's 2003 that doesn't support it.
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No 2003 does not support it. Only 2007 and 2010 does.
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• I noticed that the telephone only vibrate once when you get a phone call. This is not good Microsoft. It should do both in case you have your telephone in the pocket or in a place with too much ambient noise.
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"Really?"
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Visual voicemail as #1 missing feature? Really? What does it even do? I have an iPhone 4 at this time, and don't notice anything special about voicemail here. Am I stupid or what?
vangrieg said:
Visual voicemail as #1 missing feature? Really? What does it even do? I have an iPhone 4 at this time, and don't notice anything special about voicemail here. Am I stupid or what?
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WiKi - "Visual voicemail is voice mail with a visual interface. Such an interface presents a list of messages for playback and may include a transcript of each message."
You may not notice anything special about it but try having a telephone that does not support it and you are trying to find a message from 100 voicemails. Non visual voicemail phones have to dial a number to get your messages and go one by one to find the one you are looking for.
wsantiagow said:
WiKi - "Visual voicemail is voice mail with a visual interface. Such an interface presents a list of messages for playback and may include a transcript of each message."
You may not notice anything special about it but try having a telephone that does not support it and you are trying to find a message from 100 voicemails. Non visual voicemail phones have to dial a number to get your messages and go one by one to find the one you are looking for.
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Funny how we survived before visual voicemail was available...
efjay said:
Funny how we survived before visual voicemail was available...
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Yeah and it's even funnier how we survived before smartphones were available...
Thanks to the op for post this here.
StrykerGT said:
Yeah and it's even funnier how we survived before smartphones were available...
Thanks to the op for post this here.
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I believe here in the US visual voicemail is a carrier feature. T Mobile has it and my wife and I hated it. Some people love it, but we are not two of them.
addicus said:
I believe here in the US visual voicemail is a carrier feature. T Mobile has it and my wife and I hated it. Some people love it, but we are not two of them.
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I'm on T-Mobile. How do you get visual voice mail?
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Maybe it is a carrier feature because I don't have anything of the sort on my iPhone here. I can get a text message notifying me about who just left a voicemail and a number to tap and listen to the thing. Can't imagine when this wouldn't be enough. Rarely even have voicemail on - if I'm not available people text me, send emails, or use a gazillion of other methods to keep in touch.
Guess the love for answering machines is just a local US thing.
addicus said:
I believe here in the US visual voicemail is a carrier feature. T Mobile has it and my wife and I hated it. Some people love it, but we are not two of them.
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Are Windows phones 7 right now with this feature on other carriers? EU or in the US? If that true then I'll change the list and put the blame on AT&T. I just hate to have to dial a telephone number hear a recorded message with options, press key to hear the voicemail in sequencial order press more keys to delete o hear it again. This is ridiculous, its the same method of any cheap flip phone out there since the last 15 years. AT&T support this on the iPhone since day one so I don't see why they won't allow it for this telephones.
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Guess the love for answering machines is just a local US thing.
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On the contrary, I hate them, that is why I don't want to go through one everytime I get a message.
hicube said:
I'm on T-Mobile. How do you get visual voice mail?
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Should be preloaded on your HD2 if you still have the stock rom, otherwise you need to find a cab for Windows Mobile, however if you have Android on your HD2, then it should be in the market place under Visual Voicemail, has a magenta colored logo
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On the contrary, I hate them
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Just turn voicemail off completely then.
Trust me, your life will only be better. Those who really need to tell you something or have you call back will easily find a way to communicate. Those who just waste your time won't do it.
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WiKi - "Visual voicemail is voice mail with a visual interface. Such an interface presents a list of messages for playback and may include a transcript of each message."
You may not notice anything special about it but try having a telephone that does not support it and you are trying to find a message from 100 voicemails. Non visual voicemail phones have to dial a number to get your messages and go one by one to find the one you are looking for.
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$2.99 a month for this on Vzw ? I guess I'll stick with the old method.
After insurance, Data, text messages, taxes and all the other crap vzw charges me with...
I like my Focus but the iPhone 4 kicks it ass in every way except reception. I can't imagine Microsoft is sitting on it's collective hands doing nothing and hopefully there's an upgrade that's pretty inclusive of everything you've mentioned, hopefully it's soon and hopefully we don't get jerked around by the carriers again, as usual. Patience is a virtue, especially when you own the latest and barest. That having been said, however, with a little more than 2 weeks left to evaluate the Focus, I think I'm keeping it and selling the iPhone, the main reason being potential. The iPhone is close to running out of steam while WP7 has a huge amount of potential.
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WiKi - "Visual voicemail is voice mail with a visual interface. Such an interface presents a list of messages for playback and may include a transcript of each message."
You may not notice anything special about it but try having a telephone that does not support it and you are trying to find a message from 100 voicemails. Non visual voicemail phones have to dial a number to get your messages and go one by one to find the one you are looking for.
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Why would you even want to save 100 voicemails? Listen to voice mail......delete voice mail.
TomH123 said:
Why would you even want to save 100 voicemails? Listen to voice mail......delete voice mail.
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Often for business you need it as "proof"...at least with the company and customers I work with...
Hi again, just a couple of features I have noticed missing, or not found them....
First is being able to long hold a contact and send business card etc,
And the other one is deleting individual calls from call history, either in batch or long pressing.
Any one else found some features you'd expect missing or if the ones above will be included in a software update?
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You can't zoom in the photo edit application,which makes it absolutely impossible to remove red eyes even though there is such a functionality. Tried it several times already, the built in flash almost always guarantees red eyes.
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Hi again, just a couple of features I have noticed missing, or not found them....
First is being able to long hold a contact and send business card etc,
And the other one is deleting individual calls from call history, either in batch or long pressing.
Any one else found some features you'd expect missing or if the ones above will be included in a software update?
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I'm running ICS on my nexus s and I couldn't find any way to send contact info by sms to someone. Is this feature missing on the galaxy nexus also?
Copy and pasting pics like in ios. I miss that a lot.
kravevr6 said:
First is being able to long hold a contact and send business card etc,
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go into the contact on the People application, hit the menu button, hit Share.
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And the other one is deleting individual calls from call history
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Go into the individual entry in the Phone application, hit the menu button, hit Remove from call log.
Don't know why people are having a hard time with this...
oscillik said:
go into the contact on the People application, hit the menu button, hit Share.
Go into the individual entry in the Phone application, hit the menu button, hit Remove from call log.
Don't know why people are having a hard time with this...
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completely agree! this is perhaps the most user friendly android experience thus far! perhaps it'll just take some a little bit of getting used to!
When I hit share I get offered yo send in many ways, but not SMS!
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When I hit share I get offered yo send in many ways, but not SMS!
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If I remember correctly, stock Android hasn't had SMS business card sharing for a long time. It's no new discovery with Android 4.0
OK, thanks for the help. Seen the delete call option now. But no SMS sharing.
Galaxy s2 had it, so must be the touchwiz.
Phone is amazing all in all tho!
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Ics features Missing
update which misses the core features of ICS. Still its getting rolling to many country almost 4 days gone.
Native 3G VIDEO CALL.- why we have a front camera where we cant use it for video call. Its not fair
WIFI-DIRECT- The most welcomed features. Thought its being the highend smart phone we already misses the 4.0 bluetooth which the board can support but atleast the WIFI capable direct transfer technology which most company including samsung incorporated even in GB phone and adding to these the white paper reveales that its has the technology in buit. But why its not implemented in the latest build.
Camera : Burst Mode. Many low end smartphones has that features. Why we dont have that feature. its really a pain that having spent on high end phone lacks basic functionality where a mediocre devices can perform the same functionality at a fraction of price.
I am not pin pointing or complaining. I am just esclating to the right department to notify that these core features which are missing in the XS.
Please take it as a feedback and do the needfull to the owners of XS.
Thanks
The use of wifi direct. Setting an external MP3 as a ringtone without the use of any apps or moving the MP3 to another location on the phone. In the contacts app, choosing to view only people with cellphone numbers (again, without using any other external app)
Sending sms or email to a group. I don't know why such a simple feature is absent.
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go into the contact on the People application, hit the menu button, hit Share.
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Major option missing in that. No sharing via text. That's ****ing stupid to leave out Messaging/Text sharing, which is the main reason to share a contact or business card.
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seriously guys move on you live in like 90s.... sms? are you serious? come on... There is like 50 or more social platforms out there way but wayyyyy better than sms.... to name some of them: whatsapp, chaton, viber, etc etc etc, you can send any kind of media any size and create groups or whatever and they are multi platform... meaning they run in blackberry, windows phone, iphone, Android, so what's the deal with sms? I personally haven't sent a sms to a person in years wtf
also world wide you only need a WiFi signal to chat or share media with your people
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msedek said:
seriously guys move on you live in like 90s.... sms? are you serious? come on... There is like 50 or more social platforms out there way but wayyyyy better than sms.... to name some of them: whatsapp, chaton, viber, etc etc etc, you can send any kind of media any size and create groups or whatever and they are multi platform... meaning they run in blackberry, windows phone, iphone, Android, so what's the deal with sms? I personally haven't a sms to a person in years wtf
also world wide you only need a WiFi signal to chat or share media with your people
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Never even heard of those apps before. Everybody texts still. All my friends, family, and in my business sales SMS texting is very common and popular.
If those apps you mentioned are so great, lets see Android or iPhone incorporate them directly into their OS or some type of version based off them.
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mondenath said:
Native 3G VIDEO CALL.- why we have a front camera where we cant use it for video call. Its not fair
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Yup yup, it's a bit daft we need to install Skype or something similar. I wish Google would follow suit like other manufacturers and OEMs, and bundle a native video calling app.
Also, a BBM type thing would be nice, preinstalled, so all Android phones come with it. Group chats and the like would be pretty awesome.
Kalavere said:
Yup yup, it's a bit daft we need to install Skype or something similar. I wish Google would follow suit like other manufacturers and OEMs, and bundle a native video calling app.
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I am confused. We have already "Talk" that is Androids default video chat app.
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Zorachus said:
I am confused. We have "Talk" that is Androids default video chat app.
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I thought Talk was an MSN Messenger type app? You can't use it via the Phone can you? I.e. going to contacts and clicking call - video call. Surely if you want to make a call using Talk, you need to be logged in, and the other person has to be online etc etc?
SMS is still the most common thing, everyone with a phone has it.
Whatsapp? Not all my friends have a smartphone, let alone Whatsapp.
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SMS is still the most common thing, everyone with a phone has it.
Whatsapp? Not all my friends have a smartphone, let alone Whatsapp.
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Exactly. Texting is by far the standard. Never even heard of Whatsapp before today.
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Finally Hangouts with SMS! Been waiting for this ever since "Babel" and its here!
For the download link, head on over to androidspin.com OR click the download link below!
https://www.copy.com/s/vRBrzPCxDE9i/Hangouts.apk
sheltrack said:
Finally Hangouts with SMS! Been waiting for this ever since "Babel" and its here!
For the download link, head on over to androidspin.com OR click the download link below!
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Awesome, working perfectly! Been waiting a long time for this
Thanks, working well!
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I'm sorry to post a full newbie post here regarding this but I'm trying to settle some debate and confusion online about Hangouts 2.0
Basically has google "done it right" this time and copied iMessage? (No, I'm not an Apple fanboy)
The advantage of iMessage is that it defaults to data when possible, fallsback to SMS when it has to.
It's also completely seamless, this is handled for you - no need to manually change from data to SMS mode or anything.
2 more points:
iMessage allows you to SMS a "new" phone number for someone you've never encountered before, iMessage detects the phone number is "iMessage-able" and simply sends via data, no kind of handshake / friendship needs to be setup
and finally
There's no "online" status required of iMessage, you need not "log in" or always be set to online, it's an SMS app natively but you can communicate with people over data without them knowing you're necessarily "online"
The advantages as follows.
Cheapest possible was of conversing with friends (assuming your SMS plan is NOT unlimited, I'm in a country where it's pricey)
Privacy / "aloofness" - the lack of an online / offline requirement allows you to ignore a message and respond at your leisure, be it 5 minutes, 5 hours or 5 days. If someone however sees a green O next to your name with Hangouts, the social pressure / obligation to reply is there, you can't just relax if that makes sense (I guess this is an introvert feature)
Sorry for the long post but I'm hearing conflicting reports online that google STILL screwed it up - but that's from people who have obtained the Hangouts 2.0 APK file and do NOT have 4.4 KitKat, rumour has it that's required for the full backend SMS "engine" update to work like iMessage?
Thanks all, really appreciate your time.
EDIT: This also covers what I'm trying to clarify.
http://ausdroid.net/2013/11/01/down...mpaign=download-hangouts-with-sms-integration
The best person to answer those questions would be yourself...since it seems you have experience with iMessage whearas we just got the app.
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I'm sorry to post a full newbie post here regarding this but I'm trying to settle some debate and confusion online about Hangouts 2.0
Basically has google "done it right" this time and copied iMessage? (No, I'm not an Apple fanboy)
The advantage of iMessage is that it defaults to data when possible, fallsback to SMS when it has to.
It's also completely seamless, this is handled for you - no need to manually change from data to SMS mode or anything.
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iMessage allows you to SMS a "new" phone number for someone you've never encountered before, iMessage detects the phone number is "iMessage-able" and simply sends via data, no kind of handshake / friendship needs to be setup
and finally
There's no "online" status required of iMessage, you need not "log in" or always be set to online, it's an SMS app natively but you can communicate with people over data without them knowing you're necessarily "online"
The advantages as follows.
Cheapest possible was of conversing with friends (assuming your SMS plan is NOT unlimited, I'm in a country where it's pricey)
Privacy / "aloofness" - the lack of an online / offline requirement allows you to ignore a message and respond at your leisure, be it 5 minutes, 5 hours or 5 days. If someone however sees a green O next to your name with Hangouts, the social pressure / obligation to reply is there, you can't just relax if that makes sense (I guess this is an introvert feature)
Sorry for the long post but I'm hearing conflicting reports online that google STILL screwed it up - but that's from people who have obtained the Hangouts 2.0 APK file and do NOT have 4.4 KitKat, rumour has it that's required for the full backend SMS "engine" update to work like iMessage?
Thanks all, really appreciate your time.
EDIT: This also covers what I'm trying to clarify.
http://ausdroid.net/2013/11/01/down...mpaign=download-hangouts-with-sms-integration
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Well first off, hangouts is still technically part google talk which was an online messaging service, so the online status will still be incorporated in the app unless they take the code out and re-do the app.
And iMessage probably had its advantages in the past when messaging plans weren't unlimited but doesn't have any advantages really unless you want to know who has an iPhone and who doesn't. And since I don't have kitkat I wouldn't know if it enhances hangouts or not!
Don't think google screwed up. They did exactly what they wanted to do.
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Thanks bud! Works great over here
I installed the Hangouts 2.0 apk the other day on my Verizon S3 running 4.1.2 and it's working perfect except I am missing one person's contact picture. He has a picture in my contacts app. Anyone else run into this?
Is anyone group chatting with iPhone users? The main screen shows all participants, but in the chat thread all messages are showing one avatar / name.
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Thanks dudes!!
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Finally!!!!
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Works great. Thanks bunch :good:
Awesome, I need to d/l this when I get a chance.
All,
The default LG G3 Mail app is kinda meh....I hate the fact it does not allow me to view 'ALL EMAILS' under one, instead I have to manually toggle through my sub folders. I came from HTC One M7 and their mail app was the best I've used.
Can anyone recommend me other alternative that is not Touchdown? I hate the old looking UI of Touchdown.
I'm trying Nine Mail App now...so far so good? Any others?
Thanks!
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All,
The default LG G3 Mail app is kinda meh....I hate the fact it does not allow me to view 'ALL EMAILS' under one, instead I have to manually toggle through my sub folders. I came from HTC One M7 and their mail app was the best I've used.
Can anyone recommend me other alternative that is not Touchdown? I hate the old looking UI of Touchdown.
I'm trying Nine Mail App now...so far so good? Any others?
Thanks!
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Cloudmagic. It's a great app - very useful and it integrates with other apps you might use, i.e. Evernote, Pocket, etc.
Nutzzer said:
All,
The default LG G3 Mail app is kinda meh....I hate the fact it does not allow me to view 'ALL EMAILS' under one, instead I have to manually toggle through my sub folders. I came from HTC One M7 and their mail app was the best I've used.
Can anyone recommend me other alternative that is not Touchdown? I hate the old looking UI of Touchdown.
I'm trying Nine Mail App now...so far so good? Any others?
Thanks!
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I like AquaMail, but agree Cloudmagic is good (just hated the UI on Cloudmagic myself - specifically that it felt like I was wasting my huge screen because the app elements were huge themselves).
Take a look at Nine. I use it and like it a lot for my work's exchange email account
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninefolders.hd3&hl=en
Yes, I'm currently using Nine now and its good. I wanted to see what other options are there. CloudMagic looks great, but don't like the fact they store our info/emails in their cloud.
Nine,I like it much more than cloudmagic
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I couldnt get my exchange account work so i istalled stock email app. Working great.
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I couldnt get my exchange account work so i istalled stock email app. Working great.
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If you can get the stock KitKat email app to work with Exchange it should be a great option. Much of the same interface and goodness as Gmail, threaded emails, etc, etc. My problem is that I have now tried two phones and at least 5 custom ROMs (on my HTC One X) and I have never been able to get the stock KitKat app to work with Exchange. I have tried CleanROM, Viper, Paranoid, Cyanogen, ASOP, as soon as the OS is 4.4 or newer Exchange simply does not work. Things work with the 4.3 Email.apk and Exchange2.apk but that does not have threading. Yes, I have tried all sorts of posted workarounds, Exchange2Google.apk from various sources, etc, no luck. There are numerous threads out there from people claiming to have this problem. Must be a Google screwup because the Samsung, HTC, and LG OEM apps have absolutely no issues with Exchange under KitKat.
If anyone knows of a workaround please PM me or just respond to this thread.
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If you can get the stock KitKat email app to work with Exchange it should be a great option. Much of the same interface and goodness as Gmail, threaded emails, etc, etc. My problem is that I have now tried two phones and at least 5 custom ROMs (on my HTC One X) and I have never been able to get the stock KitKat app to work with Exchange. I have tried CleanROM, Viper, Paranoid, Cyanogen, ASOP, as soon as the OS is 4.4 or newer Exchange simply does not work. Things work with the 4.3 Email.apk and Exchange2.apk but that does not have threading. Yes, I have tried all sorts of posted workarounds, Exchange2Google.apk from various sources, etc, no luck. There are numerous threads out there from people claiming to have this problem. Must be a Google screwup because the Samsung, HTC, and LG OEM apps have absolutely no issues with Exchange under KitKat.
If anyone knows of a workaround please PM me or just respond to this thread.
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Just suggesting,
I've had a lot of headaches trying to make my exchange work on android.
Auto settings never worked for me, i had to manually type the server user password and such.
My problem was that i was not typing the domain before username.
Im pointing this out because LG email app has a domain field and stock email app doesnt.
So what I do is I fill domain\[email protected] in username field on stock email app, and i use pod51015.outlook.com on server field. And it works like that. Server might be different for you.
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Just suggesting,
I've had a lot of headaches trying to make my exchange work on android.
Auto settings never worked for me, i had to manually type the server user password and such.
My problem was that i was not typing the domain before username.
Im pointing this out because LG email app has a domain field and stock email app doesnt.
So what I do is I fill domain\[email protected] in username field on stock email app, and i use pod51015.outlook.com on server field. And it works like that. Server might be different for you.
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Yeah, I have seen numerous people suggest that as a workaround but it has never worked for me. Perhaps the email server is not correct, I need to go talk to the IT guys. The annoying part is that the phone vendor email app always successfully auto-configures. It seems that everyone except Google has figured out how to do this correctly.
GroovyGeek said:
Yeah, I have seen numerous people suggest that as a workaround but it has never worked for me. Perhaps the email server is not correct, I need to go talk to the IT guys. The annoying part is that the phone vendor email app always successfully auto-configures. It seems that everyone except Google has figured out how to do this correctly.
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Yeah, IT people here gave me the server info. You should try entering manually next.
nsfnd said:
Yeah, IT people here gave me the server info. You should try entering manually next.
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Well, I finally figured out how to make the stock kitkat 4.4 email app work. You can first let something like the oem email all run, then go look at the settings a day then manually reproduce them in the kitkat app. In my case I needed to specify the server as webmail.company.com and select the "all certificates" option.
However, it appears that I was wrong in my claim that the stock kitkat email apk threads. That is not the case.
Nine actually looks quite good, and just when I was wondering how they can afford to give away such a sophisticated polished app I noticed that there is a silent 7 day trial, after which it is pay to play. Seems to be worth the $10.
1st impression of Nine is very good. Paid for the $10 license less than 10 min after installing it.
twosix said:
1st impression of Nine is very good. Paid for the $10 license less than 10 min after installing it.
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It does look very good and the support is incredibly responsive. There is a bit of mystery Engrish in the menu items and some of the settings and UI are far from logical but that is a small price to pay for the functionality.
Do any of these apps integrate exchange emails into appointments on your regular calendar automatically?
Also I'm looking for one that doesn't make me put a ridiculous password on my phone.
theraker007 said:
Do any of these apps integrate exchange emails into appointments on your regular calendar automatically?
Also I'm looking for one that doesn't make me put a ridiculous password on my phone.
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Nine allows for this. Exchange and appointments into regular calendar. You are given the choice of applying security at the app level instead of the device level. So you only have to enter PIN when opening the app...not when unlocking the device.
There is an app called Enhanced Email that allows you to bypass security completely.
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stevieraveon said:
NThere is an app called Enhanced Email that allows you to bypass security completely.
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There are also a number of modules for Xposed that let you do the same at the OS level. The one I like best is called Lockscreen Bypass
I use Mailwise and it works great!
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GroovyGeek said:
There are also a number of modules for Xposed that let you do the same at the OS level. The one I like best is called Lockscreen Bypass
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unfortunately im on ART
Just wondering if there are users out there. At the moment I use Verizon's Message +
Until Google gets with the program and adds SMS support, nope. Not many people want to have two or more messaging apps. It's sad too, I would definitely use it if it supported SMS. I was one of the millions of people who downloaded it when it was released only to be disappointed, heavily. I think they'll port at least some of the functionality to Android Messages though. They've already added Gif and search support, and smart replies is apparently coming soon too. So, whatever. If they add assistant to AM I'll be plenty happy.
gettinwicked said:
Until Google gets with the program and adds SMS support, nope. Not many people want to have two or more messaging apps. It's sad too, I would definitely use it if it supported SMS. I was one of the millions of people who downloaded it when it was released only to be disappointed, heavily. I think they'll port at least some of the functionality to Android Messages though. They've already added Gif and search support, and smart replies is apparently coming soon too. So, whatever. If they add assistant to AM I'll be plenty happy.
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Thanks, I guess I'll stay put.
pbman1953 said:
Thanks, I guess I'll stay put.
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Yeah, last time I checked, I had like 3 friends that use it. Not enough by far for me to want to use it. Check out Android Messages. I personally like it the best out of all that I've tried. There's another thread on here somewhere with other messaging apps that people like.
Does it work with Wifi, because Messages+ works like Whats app on Wifi
pbman1953 said:
Does it work with Wifi, because Messages+ works like Whats app on Wifi
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Yeah it does. I personally love Allo. I was stuck on my iPhone for awhile because I loved iMessage but every since I've been using Allo it made the transition a lot easier.
Most of my friends use it so that's a plus. If none of my friends were on it then I probably wouldn't use it as much.
Goog1e Phone said:
Yeah it does. I personally love Allo. I was stuck on my iPhone for awhile because I loved iMessage but every since I've been using Allo it made the transition a lot easier.
Most of my friends use it so that's a plus. If none of my friends were on it then I probably wouldn't use it as much.
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You and your friends are in a very small minority of Allo users. I have more friends that use Hangouts (just 1 lol) than Allo. As mentioned before, until it supports SMS, then no one in the U.S. has a reason to switch. And all other countries get more functionality from WhatsApp already so they wouldn't switch anyway. Allo is pretty much doomed to fail.
My wife has an iPhone, and I will never use one, so we use Allo. I like that it's cross platform
They need to add SMS fallback and make Allo the default messaging app (get rid of Android messages or put Allo features into Android messages). Once that's done, it will gain adoption. I think these days, it's foolish to have a messaging app optional to use. iMessage works because everyone on the iOS platform can use it immediately.
pipnmike said:
They need to add SMS fallback and make Allo the default messaging app (get rid of Android messages or put Allo features into Android messages). Once that's done, it will gain adoption. I think these days, it's foolish to have a messaging app optional to use. iMessage works because everyone on the iOS platform can use it immediately.
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AND they don't have a choice. iOS doesn't allow any 3rd party apps to handle cellular based calls or text messages.
PuffDaddy_d said:
AND they don't have a choice. iOS doesn't allow any 3rd party apps to handle cellular based calls or text messages.
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But making it the default (exactly like Chrome) would be a good thing, because 70% of people will use the default app because they simply don't know any better and don't care.
The other 30% care and can easily augment or switch apps, but adding SMS and making it at least the initial default would be the smart play. However, being the smart and obvious 'solution' to the whole ****show that is Android messaging pretty much decisively means Google won't even consider it.
Google voice basically has me locked to hangouts #shrugs
For all the good stuff they do for the OS in terms of usability, etc, i just don't get why they can't get their act together on a simple messaging app
pipnmike said:
For all the good stuff they do for the OS in terms of usability, etc, i just don't get why they can't get their act together on a simple messaging app
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It's because Google has given up on merging SMS with Allo and is betting on RCS technology to be the solution going forward. Too bad only Sprint has it and doesn't work between different carriers. Ugh!
Until I can use it for sms....it stays off my phone.
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I use it on the regular but not with a lot of people. I stick to that and SMS currently
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It's because Google has given up on merging SMS with Allo and is betting on RCS technology to be the solution going forward. Too bad only Sprint has it and doesn't work between different carriers. Ugh!
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And it's the DUMBEST thing! I could definitely see if ALL of the US carriers (as well as a lot overseas of course) were planning on rolling out RCS within MONTHS of Allo's release, but no one but Sprint has even announced that they are working on it to my knowledge. Sooo, it's, hey, use our app and don't let it die for literally YEARS while we wait for carriers to adopt this new standard. We don't want to go backwards and use SMS... Brilliant
The team lead has left Allo (and Google I think), sooo, maybe the new person won't have their head up their @$$? Wishful thinking I'm sure.
It's such a shame, I would love to be able to use Allo.
It is useful for sharing videos and pictures to users on Sprint and at&t as they will not transmit die to those networks size limitations on mms.
And even on Verizon and TMobile which do not seem to have a limit on the size of pictures.
Allo allows you to send files as large 200mb. Telegram allows up to 1GB or 2GB per file.
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It is useful for sharing videos and pictures to users on Sprint and at&t as they will not transmit die to those networks size limitations on mms.
And even on Verizon and TMobile which do not seem to have a limit on the size of pictures.
Allo allows you to send files as large 200mb. Telegram allows up to 1GB or 2GB per file.
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I thought all major networks had a 1mb limit
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I thought all major networks had a 1mb limit
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I can send full size photos to people on TMobile and most people on Verizon. There has only been one person that I know on Verizon has trouble receiving mms from me.