Hello Everyone,
I am curious, I have seen a thread about different layers that can be used. Maybe I am missing something but I only see one ROM that actually supports layers now? I'm hoping this thread and the members of XDA can pull together and maybe help me compile a list of the ROMs for our OP3's that actually have layers support instead of the CMTE. No offense to CMTE but I like layers more. Thank you everyone. I have been searching for nearly a week now.....
Regards,
Sean
All ROMs that is 6.0.1 and isn't Oxygen (since Oxygen has a limited support for Layers) or CM supports Layers. Additionally, Layers has been succeeded by Substratum (or OMS), and most ROMs nowadays uses Substratum instead of Layers (since it is better).
So, tl;dr, just use any ROM with [OMS] in their thread title
thank you
F4uzan said:
All ROMs that is 6.0.1 and isn't Oxygen (since Oxygen has a limited support for Layers) or CM supports Layers. Additionally, Layers has been succeeded by Substratum (or OMS), and most ROMs nowadays uses Substratum instead of Layers (since it is better).
So, tl;dr, just use any ROM with [OMS] in their thread title
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Thank you very much F4uzan. Maybe I am completely lost, but up until OrionOS, which is the only rom that has a substratum layers setting, can I use substratum layers on CMTE based roms? I never tried, but I'm intrigued now.
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Nearly every rom, whether it is AICP, AOSP, AOKP, Pacman, etc none of them state layer support or substratum support and they all seem to use the CM theme engine....am I lost here?
sean82007 said:
Thank you very much F4uzan. Maybe I am completely lost, but up until OrionOS, which is the only rom that has a substratum layers setting, can I use substratum layers on CMTE based roms? I never tried, but I'm intrigued now.
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Nearly every rom, whether it is AICP, AOSP, AOKP, Pacman, etc none of them state layer support or substratum support and they all seem to use the CM theme engine....am I lost here?
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Let me rephrase my statements from before.
Anything based on AOSP should be compatible with Layers (take a note here, Layers is different from Substratum), unless stated that they either use CMTE or Substratum.
Anything that is based on CM only uses CMTE, it cannot use Layers or Substratum due to the modification done in the core-level by CM themselves.
F4uzan said:
Let me rephrase my statements from before.
Anything based on AOSP should be compatible with Layers (take a note here, Layers is different from Substratum), unless stated that they either use CMTE or Substratum.
Anything that is based on CM only uses CMTE, it cannot use Layers or Substratum due to the modification done in the core-level by CM themselves.
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I appreciate that. So in other words, if they don't state substratum or layers its safe to say that nearly every rom for the OP3 except for Orion do not support substratum or layers. I have tried like, no kidding, 15 or so this week and only found Orion to have support for substratum. Do you know of one specifically that has substratum support?
sean82007 said:
I appreciate that. So in other words, if they don't state substratum or layers its safe to say that nearly every rom for the OP3 except for Orion do not support substratum or layers. I have tried like, no kidding, 15 or so this week and only found Orion to have support for substratum. Do you know of one specifically that has substratum support?
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Tipsy and Cardinal both supports Substratum, I think you may need to install the Substratum app for it to work, though.
F4uzan you are amazing and correct. Substratum is new to me, and I didn't really mess with layers when it first came out because of so many different issues. I didn't realize that substratum had an app for itself, I figured the roms that had substratum, would have it already built into the rom when developed. Thank you. Tipsy im currently on the latest but I didn't see substratum or CMTE on it and I was like what the **** I have to make a thread for this all. It was driving me nuts.
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Announcing PACE and PACE Plus for Find7.
PACE
This is pure AOSP plus with just enough CAF/CM enhancements to get it to run on a variety of hardware.
NOTE!!!
This is only for Find7a right now. I am working on adding support for Find7s. It should be ready in a few days.
Download:
pace44-find7-1.0.rc5.zip
md5=fa2984b63cdcbfab17b4118f397ddb66
Superuser (SuperSU):
superuser.zip
PACE Plus
This includes a few enhancements:
* Built-in SuperSU
* Gesture (swipey) keyboard
* Custom boot animation
* Density (DPI) changer
* Built-in adfree hosts
* Quick settings pulldown
* Torch
* Custom power menu
Planned enhancements:
* Theme support
* No-reboot installer
* ... Other suggestions?
Download:
paceplus44-find7-1.0.rc5.zip
md5=24d12e9aa482ea64d4ec0711af1e3c75
Known Issues:
* Location API (geolocation) used by apps like "Fences" does not work.
Changelog
v1.0rc5
* Initial build for Find7
Source:
github.com/pacerom
Hi, what is the differences between the branch v4.4 and v4.4plus with your source code on Github?
systop said:
Hi, what is the differences between the branch v4.4 and v4.4plus with your source code on Github?
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The plus branch has the plus code with features listed in the OP.
tdm said:
The plus branch has the plus code with features listed in the OP.
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I can get it, thank you for your so quick reply.
Then I wonder if I can roll back to 4.4.2? It is because I want to build a 4.4.2 pacerom using cm tree as a base rom to patch other roms like miui
Nice to see you here mate. Your rom on the OGP is excellent and I'm sure you will aim to please here as well
I did download and install an early *unannounced* build of this (before you had the thread up) and it was hard for me to pass the boot ani. I eventually booted in to safe mode and after that initial boot it worked great
*EDIT*
Flashed latest plus just now and it is flying. Would be awesome to have the device specific screen off gestures implemented. Only trouble so far is the AOSP keyboard force closes when swyping for me. Great work mate!
Hello, you can see some screenshots?
the rom is ready so how? does not need gapps? if so what is recommended MINI MODULAR PACKAGE ? thanks
Uanagana said:
Hello, you can see some screenshots?
the rom is ready so how? does not need gapps? if so what is recommended MINI MODULAR PACKAGE ? thanks
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Im going to make this simple for you; ALWAYS flash gapps mini modular with every rom you ever use (unless you're flashing colorOS). I understand you are very new to XDA and perhaps a language barrier is the cause of some of the confusion (while corresponding with you in other threads)
@uppon2: The keyboard FC when using gestures should have been fixed. This is the fix commit:
https://github.com/pacerom/packages...mmit/9ddfe26215f035da036c620e69688c6721407811
That will depend on jni_unbundled_latinimegoogle existing, of course. It's provided in gapps.
If you have the "official" build with the md5 in the OP and you have gapps installed, I'll re-flash and re-test just to make sure something weird isn't going on.
I was on CM and Gummy for a couple months and I really got addicted to the tap2sleep/tap2wake stuff. I will definitely be trying to put those in soon. The other gesture stuff (circle for camera, vee for torch) may or may not make it in, depending on the amount of change required.
As for gapps, I have been using the CM recommended 20140606 package (linked here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Google_Apps) and it works well. Prior to last month I had been using the 20140105 package and it also worked well.
@Uanagana: Sorry no screen shots, just find a Nexus 5 screen shot and chop out the navbar.
tdm said:
@uppon2: The keyboard FC when using gestures should have been fixed. This is the fix commit:
https://github.com/pacerom/packages...mmit/9ddfe26215f035da036c620e69688c6721407811
That will depend on jni_unbundled_latinimegoogle existing, of course. It's provided in gapps.
If you have the "official" build with the md5 in the OP and you have gapps installed, I'll re-flash and re-test just to make sure something weird isn't going on.
I was on CM and Gummy for a couple months and I really got addicted to the tap2sleep/tap2wake stuff. I will definitely be trying to put those in soon. The other gesture stuff (circle for camera, vee for torch) may or may not make it in, depending on the amount of change required
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I was reporting on the keyboard that is present in the rom. I had not flashed gapps at this stage so I'm assuming that will fix the problem.
I'm glad you're considering screen off gestures! Thank you
There are some duplicated ringtones in media and only difference is the letter case.
systop said:
There are some duplicated ringtones in media and only difference is the letter case.
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I definitely see some weirdness with duplicated ring tones. Which ones do you see?
This may or may not be an aosp issue. I'll need to investigate.
tdm said:
I definitely see some weirdness with duplicated ring tones. Which ones do you see?
This may or may not be an aosp issue. I'll need to investigate.
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Here is the list of duplicated ringtones:
arcturus.ogg vega.ogg Andromeda.ogg CanisMajor.ogg Perseus.ogg UrsaMinor.ogg hydra.ogg
Thanks for your rom, I have successfully patched a MIUI V5 4.4.4
Looks promising can't wait for find7 support thanks tdm
Here is my question, why do you remove the useful oppo custom setting from the CM tree?
systop said:
Here is my question, why do you remove the useful oppo custom setting from the CM tree?
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I did not remove anything. I have my own tree and I am only adding things that are related to hardware support.
Which setting do you mean?
tdm said:
I did not remove anything. I have my own tree and I am only adding things that are related to hardware support.
Which setting do you mean?
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You seems to remove the configpanel for common oppo phones which is included in cm tree
systop said:
You seems to remove the configpanel for common oppo phones which is included in cm tree
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Ah yes the cmhw things. Is the anything in particular you want from that panel?
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Ah yes the cmhw things. Is the anything in particular you want from that panel?
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No, this config panel is not useful to me, and I only wonder if this panel is not compatible with the aosp?
systop said:
No, this config panel is not useful to me, and I only wonder if this panel is not compatible with the aosp?
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I could add it if there is a need. But I have never wanted it myself.
Hi, I find that you add a kernel boot parameter: androidboot.selinux=permissive
I want to know why you add this? Is there any compatible issue with selinux between cm and pace?
here you can ask whatever you want.
I think this is a good idea. Let's see if now the dev thread is clean ..
perhaps you can indicate in the dev thread made here doubts, questions, ...
Greetings and thanks
Are you planning to move the downloads to AFH instead of your local server (like you are doing for the G2)?
Thanks!
Can you change substratum with layer manager or cm theme engine? For substratum we have so small amount of thems comparative with the others engine, and them aren't so beauty, and I fuk the os so many time with themes that makes systemui crash. The ROM is ok, but I am not satisfied with the customization options.
Also, u can add to this room SuperSU?
Can you please provide the fix for the sensor issue after root? (a commit to fix this), i can't figure out how to get root to work with sensors and you fixed it somehow
Hello brothers,
I see many, too many RR ROMS. I really try to understand what the differences are.
I read the first post, but it doesn't give me that extra information I looking for.
Please, can you guys tell me what the (big)/(small) differences are?
This one are now availble all: (sorry for my horrible English).
[CAF][Sultan-ized][UNOFFICIAL]Resurrection Remix ROM [5.7.4][May 1]
[LOS][OTA]Resurrection Remix N[UNIFIED][OMS][7.1.2_r8][21 MAI]
[Official Rom][Unified-Builds] Resurrection Remix [OP3/3T][May 10]
[7.1.2]-ZeNiTy-RR-Evolution-[EAS-VOX]-[OMS]-[Magisk]-[MicroG]
[OP3T/OP3][Sultan-ized][UNOFFICIAL]Resurrection Remix ROM [5.8.3][May 9]
So I see some, LOS, OTA, CAF.
But what more? And .. Which one is the most stable with best battery life?
I really don't have the time to install all of them and try it
Thanks in advance, guys.
Waiiting
YourTheBest said:
Hello brothers,
I see many, too many RR ROMS. I really try to understand what the differences are.
I read the first post, but it doesn't give me that extra information I looking for.
Please, can you guys tell me what the (big)/(small) differences are?
This one are now availble all: (sorry for my horrible English).
[CAF][Sultan-ized][UNOFFICIAL]Resurrection Remix ROM [5.7.4][May 1]
[LOS][OTA]Resurrection Remix N[UNIFIED][OMS][7.1.2_r8][21 MAI]
[Official Rom][Unified-Builds] Resurrection Remix [OP3/3T][May 10]
[7.1.2]-ZeNiTy-RR-Evolution-[EAS-VOX]-[OMS]-[Magisk]-[MicroG]
[OP3T/OP3][Sultan-ized][UNOFFICIAL]Resurrection Remix ROM [5.8.3][May 9]
So I see some, LOS, OTA, CAF.
But what more? And .. Which one is the most stable with best battery life?
I really don't have the time to install all of them and try it
Thanks in advance, guys.
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CAF= provided with drivers developed by Code Aurora Project, which are more reliable than others;
LOS= based on LineageOS, useless wording since CyanogenMod is no longer supported;
Unified-build= developed for both Oneplus 3/3T;
EAS= kernel scheduling system (HMP) aimed to power saving https://www.linaro.org/blog/core-du...core-dump/energy-aware-scheduling-eas-project;
VOX= another kernel scheduling system (HMP) aimed to power saving https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...kernel-vertexos-blazar-zenith-kernel-t3571781;
OMS= means that the rom is provided of Sony framework, so Substratum should be fully compatible;
Sultanized= rom tweaked like the user @Sultanxda does.
I would discourage you to install Resurrection Remix.
With Lollipop it was simply perfect, with Marshmallow it became a bit unstable, with Nougat it completely lost stability.
I hope to get wrong (since my latest RR installation goes back to January 2017, now I'm on Dirty Unicorns).
Personally I would stay on Official build for a better support: Resurrection Remix is a derivated of a derivated (RR-LOS-AOSP), it's already "messed up".
The Sultanized variant should be greatful, but it's still based on Marshmallow.
However there's the EAS-VOX variant, which should be excellent in terms of battery like and provides also Magisk, Substratum support and microG.
So you've to choose: for the best stability go with official RR, for the best experience go with EAS-VOX variant.
Simone98RC said:
CAF= provided with drivers developed by Code Aurora Project, which are more reliable than others;
LOS= based on LineageOS, useless wording since CyanogenMod is no longer supported;
Unified-build= developed for both Oneplus 3/3T;
EAS= power saving feature https://www.linaro.org/blog/core-du...core-dump/energy-aware-scheduling-eas-project;
VOX= another power saving feature https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...kernel-vertexos-blazar-zenith-kernel-t3571781;
OMS= means that the rom is provided of Sony framework, so Substratum should be fully compatible;
Sultanized= rom tweaked like the user @Sultanxda does.
I would discourage you to install Resurrection Remix.
With Lollipop it was simply perfect, with Marshmallow it became a bit unstable, with Nougat it completely lost stability.
I hope to get wrong (since my latest RR installation goes back to January 2017, now I'm on Dirty Unicorns).
Personally I would stay on Official build for a better support: Resurrection Remix is a derivated of a derivated (RR-LOS-AOSP), it's already "messed up".
The Sultanized variant should be greatful, but it's still based on Marshmallow.
However there's the EAS-VOX variant, which should be excellent in terms of battery like and provides also Magisk, Substratum support and microG.
So you've to choose: for the best stability go with official RR, for the best experience go with EAS-VOX variant.
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Thank you so much, Simone.
Gracias (Is that Italian?)
Last question. Are you happy with Dirty Unincorn?
Thanks again!
YourTheBest said:
Thank you so much, Simone.
Gracias (Is that Italian?)
Last question. Are you happy with Dirty Unincorn?
Thanks again!
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No, that's Spanish ?
In Italy we say Grazie!
Yeah I'm very happy.
The latest stable release (v11.4-20170506) is simply perfect, the only issue is the lacking of USB OTG support.
You have most of the RR tweaks, even OmniSwitch, you have also the useful Op. App menu and Substratum support (that should be absent in official RR).
You have the essential, dialer is provided just because needed in a phone... otherwise they would remove it ?
User is fully master of his device.
The only suggestion is to be careful when installing weekly builds.
They are not so stable as said by developers.
Good luck
Simone98RC said:
No, that's Spanish
In Italy we say Grazie!
Yeah I'm very happy.
The latest stable release (v11.4-20170506) is simply perfect, the only issue is the lacking of USB OTG support.
You have most of the RR tweaks, even OmniSwitch, you have also the useful Op. App menu and Substratum support (that should be absent in official RR).
You have the essential, dialer is provided just because needed in a phone... otherwise they would remove it
User is fully master of his device.
The only suggestion is to be careful when installing weekly builds.
They are not so stable as said by developers.
Good luck
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Official RR also has OMS support. The first post just isnt updated i think.
I am always looking for the best ROM.
At the moment I use LineAge from sultanxda.
I install Dirty Unicorns, AOSP Extended & Phoenix version, RR official and eliminaters version, crDroid and watch videos about other ROMs.
RR has really everything and every feature of any other ROM I tried. So the all-in-one package is RR. The version from eliminater has TugaBrowser and some extras like Google camera etc. I hope I remember correctly.
But then I go through every feature and compare with LineAge and I saw, I don't use any other feature than LineAge features.
So I try LineAge from sultanxda for battery life now to see, if it is better.
I have no experience with kernels and changing kernel settings and I am not sure, if I want to do that. I hope, sultanxda has made everything automatically.
I think, a comparision thread for all ROMs here would be very helpful for new users, because here are so many ROMs, kernels etc. :silly:
Simone98RC said:
EAS= power saving feature https://www.linaro.org/blog/core-du...ore-dump/energy-aware-scheduling-eas-project;
VOX= another power saving feature https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...ernel-vertexos-blazar-zenith-kernel-t3571781;
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Those two are not true, these are not features but replacement of the whole HMP system from how the CPU handles tasks to frequencie usage. I cant say too much about it but it aims for better peformancr/per watt and yes with the right setup it achieves this. EAS incombination with Voxpopuli did not only increase battery for me. But the magnificent part comes to peformance.
Voxpopuli is a really smartway of input boosting, yes we need input boost for a smooth UI experience. Voxpopuli can detect swipes and touches. The faster you swipe the longer it boosts to be sure it will give the Smoothest experience you can have, touches boost way less then swipes.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Which one has the fastest fingerprint? (Closest to OOS)
charackthe said:
Which one has the fastest fingerprint? (Closest to OOS)
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Zenity has commits for this so I think this is the fastest.
charackthe said:
Which one has the fastest fingerprint? (Closest to OOS)
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Puddi_Puddin said:
Zenity has commits for this so I think this is the fastest.
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Yes, I'm on Zenity ROM. Build is great and batterylife is amazing.
Only I find the fingerprint is unlocking too fast for my feelings.
I just created a post in OP3 Question & Answers, how I can make it a bit slower to respond.
YourTheBest said:
Yes, I'm on Zenity ROM. Build is great and batterylife is amazing.
Only I find the fingerprint is unlocking too fast for my feelings.
I just created a post in OP3 Question & Answers, how I can make it a bit slower to respond.
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Wear a glove.
YourTheBest said:
Yes, I'm on Zenity ROM. Build is great and batterylife is amazing.
Only I find the fingerprint is unlocking too fast for my feelings.
I just created a post in OP3 Question & Answers, how I can make it a bit slower to respond.
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I am on Zenity right now and everything is too slow.
YourTheBest said:
Yes, I'm on Zenity ROM. Build is great and batterylife is amazing.
Only I find the fingerprint is unlocking too fast for my feelings.
I just created a post in OP3 Question & Answers, how I can make it a bit slower to respond.
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I'm starting to suspect that there is more than one Zenity ROMs because mine's fingerprint isn't that awesome.
Good thread.. [emoji106]
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk
Thanks for making this thread, was looking for something exactly like this!
So are you guys sure that Zenity has the fastest fingerprint? I'm about to flash things I need real reviews guys
Which one's fingerprint is fastest?
Zenity or Official or this one with be delighted text or this one with no indication of what it is?
charackthe said:
So are you guys sure that Zenity has the fastest fingerprint? I'm about to flash things I need real reviews guys
Which one's fingerprint is fastest?
Zenity or Official or this one with be delighted text or this one with no indication of what it is?
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Pretty sure Zenity..
Puddi_Puddin said:
Pretty sure Zenity..
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Alright so I'll reflash Zenity since I had it before with very slow fingerprint and stuff. I won't restore anything this time. I let google play download the apps that I was using before but I won't this time. Don't know if it will effect anything but this is very slow! I can't keep going like dis ;-;
I'll flash a all new clean Zenity and share it with you.
Yes it is laggy the time that passes while I wait for screen to turn on is longer than the earth's existence..
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Introduce:
I'm building LineageOS with OMS theme engine, all device source and kernel are making by https://github.com/bhb27/device_motorola_quark
Code:
#include
/*
* Your warranty is now void.
*
* I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards,
* thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed. Please
* do some research if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM
* before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if
* you point the finger at me for messing up your device, I will laugh at you.
*/
Downloads:
ROM: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=237330
Gapps: https://opengapps.org
Source:
device tree : https://github.com/bhb27/device_motorola_quark
oms patches : https://github.com/LineageOMS
Thanks :laugh::laugh:
How is this different from this other longtime unofficial Lineage ROM?
[ROM][Quarks][LOS 14.1 Unofficial][7.1.x][2018-01-07]
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/development/rom-t3494646
We always welcome more development. I'm merely asking for information. I maintain a list of Quark ROMs (posted in this Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo forum as well as the Droid Turbo forum), and unlike Resurrection Remix, crDRoid, Viper, AOKP -- which were all different ROMs from different ROM groups -- this seems to be just like something already posted... So, if I'm going to add it to the list, I need to know how it's different please?
Also, as long as I'm asking questions, do you own one of the Quark phones (Moto Maxx, Droid Turbo, Moto Turbo)?
ChazzMatt said:
How is this different from this other longtime unofficial Lineage ROM?
[ROM][Quarks][LOS 14.1 Unofficial][7.1.x][2018-01-07]
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/development/rom-t3494646
We always welcome more development. I'm merely asking for information. I maintain a list of Quark ROMs (posted in this forum as well as the Droid Turbo forum), and unlike Resurrection Remix, crDRoid, Viper, AOKP -- which were all different ROMs from different ROM groups -- this seems to be just like something already posted... So, if I'm going to add it to the list, I need to know how it's different please?
Also, as long as I'm asking questions, do you own one of the Quark phones (Moto Maxx, Droid Turbo, Moto Turbo)?
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Maybe the addition of oms.
Soul reaper said:
Maybe the addition of oms.
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The other LOS ROM also supports OMS and has for a long time. Is there something different/better about this OMS support the other ROM doesn't have? I'm just asking questions.
Just seems strange (my opinion) the dev can't/won't answer a couple of simple -- but quite valid -- questions in a new ROM thread he just created?
What is different compared to the other LOS ROM?
Does he own this phone?
Does that mean he won't be responsive to users? I own this phone and am a potential user.
If he doesn't own this phone, does that mean he can't test releases? (His profile says no, but I'd like to hear explanation from him.)
I'll be glad to edit this post accordingly if he ever answers. I'm not asking hard questions. This is what others would also want to know before installing this ROM, I would think. When I add this ROM to the list I maintain and post in both Quark forums, I need information.
By the way, I've been here in the Quark forums for over three years (back when it was still ONE forum), and I still own two of these phones.
ChazzMatt said:
The other LOS ROM also supports OMS and has for a long time. Is there something different/better about this OMS support the other ROM doesn't have? I'm just asking questions.
Just seems strange (my opinion) the dev can't/won't answer a couple of simple -- but quite valid -- questions in a new ROM thread he just created?
What is different compared to the other LOS ROM?
Does he own this phone?
Does that mean he won't be responsive to users? I own this phone and am a potential user.
If he doesn't own this phone, does that mean he can't test releases? (His profile says no, but I'd like to hear explanation from him.)
I'll be glad to edit this post accordingly if he ever answers. I'm not asking hard questions. This is what others would also want to know before installing this ROM, I would think. When I add this ROM to the list I maintain and post in both Quark forums, I need information.
By the way, I've been here in the Quark forums for over three years (back when it was still ONE forum), and I still own two of these phones.
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hmm
All source is up-to-date. patched oms patches on "Stock Unofficial Lineage for quark".
Of course. Droid Turbo is my daily driver. I just replace the battery to get it power up!
P013onEr said:
hmm
All source is up-to-date. patched oms patches on "Stock Unofficial Lineage for quark".
Of course. Droid Turbo is my daily driver. I just replace the battery to get it power up!
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Thank you for your answer. Your XDA profile says you own a Sony Xperia Z and Google Nexus 5, which is why I asked if you actually owned this phone? We've had problems in the past with "devs" who didn't actually own this Quark device -- which was one of my concerns. They released ROMs with bugs, listed specs copied and pasted from another device.... They also were not responsive to questions or issues with the ROM. And of course they are no longer around.
Since you had never even posted in either Quark forum (Droid Turbo forum or the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo forum) before posting this ROM, you can see why I'm asking questions. I was just curious what's different from the other well-established LOS ROM, which also seems to have OMS support. But users can decide which they like best. Android is about choice, after all.
We always welcome more development for Moto Quark. It was the best device in 2014 and held its ground well into 2015 and 2016. It was the "unofficial" 5.2" version of the Moto Nexus 6, but with a bigger battery than the larger Nexus 6. (Motorola released this phone at the same time Lenovo was buying Motorola from Lenovo, and regrettably Motorola/Lenovo dropped the ball on marketing/releasing this fantastic phone world-wide.) I bought three of them, and still own two. I wrote the bootloader and root unlock guide for the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo variants, but I'm also very active in the Droid Turbo forum. It used to be ONE forum, but was split just two months before Droid Turbo got bootloader unlock via Sunshine -- which now causes users to have to jump back and forth between two forums.
ChazzMatt said:
How is this different from this other longtime unofficial Lineage ROM?
[ROM][Quarks][LOS 14.1 Unofficial][7.1.x][2018-01-07]
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/development/rom-t3494646
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Full substratum support now. So more themes can work properly on LineageOS.
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Hlcpereira said:
Full substratum support now. So more themes can work properly on LineageOS.
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Until I hear otherwise, the other LOS ROM also supports OMS. @calsurferpunk has applied the same patches @bhb27 has, as far as I know...
If I'm misunderstanding this, I'll be happy to discuss further -- maybe in the ROM list thread? I don't want to detract from this ROM in any way.
I was just wanting to know a clear difference between the two, if any.
I posted this ROM as well as the new Mokee in the forum ROM list.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=75256701
We welcome all serious developers, and the more ROMs the better.
ChazzMatt said:
Until I hear otherwise, the other LOS ROM also supports OMS. @calsurferpunk has applied the same patches @bhb27 has, as far as I know...
If I'm misunderstanding this, I'll be happy to discuss further -- maybe in the ROM list thread? I don't want to detract from this ROM in any way.
I was just wanting to know a clear difference between the two, if any.
I posted this ROM as well as the new Mokee in the forum ROM list.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=75256701
We welcome all serious developers, and the more ROMs the better.
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As far as I know I am using the same sources, so it should have OMS support also. I don't understand the point of creating this ROM @P013onEr, @Hlcpereira, and @ChazzMatt if it's identical to mine.
calsurferpunk said:
@P013onEr, @Hlcpereira, and @ChazzMattif it's identical to mine.
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As far as I know I am using the same sources, so it should have OMS support also. I don't understand the point of creating this ROM @P013onEr, @Hlcpereira, and @ChazzMattif it's identical to mine.
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It's because OMS is already on AOSP since Sony had start using RRO. But to give all themes working properly it's needed another patches, direct from .projekt/substratum repos. The only one thing that @bhb27 had do it is include substratum app on vendor source.
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calsurferpunk said:
As far as I know I am using the same sources, so it should have OMS support also. I don't understand the point of creating this ROM @P013onEr, @Hlcpereira, and @ChazzMatt, if it's identical to mine.
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That was my point, but I'm trying to be nice about it. I don't want to discourage anyone from developing a ROM for QUARK.
Whereas @bhb27 chose to step away from Mokee after Marshmallow (he still has RR and crDroid ROMs), so the @P013onEr Nougat Mokee ROM is fair game. With that one, he's not duplicating anything already posted in the Quark forums.
Now if someone did an "audio enhanced" unofficial LOS ROM with Viper preinstalled or something, then that would be a clear difference.
I've asked several times what the difference is, and I keep hearing "my car can go 60mph". Yeah, so do other cars in this forum.
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Hlcpereira said:
It's because OMS is already on AOSP since Sony had start using RRO. But to give all themes working properly it's needed another patches, direct from .projekt/substratum repos. The only one thing that @bhb27 had do it is include substratum app on vendor source.
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@calsurferpunk uses a lot of the same patches as @bhb27 with RR.
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Hlcpereira said:
It's because OMS is already on AOSP since Sony had start using RRO. But to give all themes working properly it's needed another patches, direct from .projekt/substratum repos. The only one thing that @bhb27 had do it is include substratum app on vendor source.
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I just noticed that it's actually a different branch (LineageOMS), so nevermind. I'd rather keep using the official LineageOS repos, but I guess others are of course always welcome to use something else. My concern would be that patches/fixes would have to be merged into that unoficial REPO, so it might not be quite as current as the official at any given time. The entire reason I went with official was to prevent more bugs from showing up since other additions can cause unsupported errors, but at the same time the irony is that the official has a "bug" of it's own then .
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I just noticed that it's actually a different branch (LineageOMS), so nevermind. I'd rather keep using the official LineageOS repos, but I guess others are of course always welcome to use something else. My concern would be that patches/fixes would have to be merged into that unoficial REPO, so it might not be quite as current as the official at any given time. The entire reason I went with official was to prevent more bugs from showing up since other additions can cause unsupported errors, but at the same time the irony is that the official has a "bug" of it's own then .
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But you do incorporate other stuff than just "official". You apply a lot of what @bhb27 has in RR. It's not just plain jane LOS.
I know RR has OMS because I've used substratum theme with it.
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ChazzMatt said:
But you do incorporate other stuff than just "official". You apply a lot of what @bhb27 has in RR. It's not just plain jane LOS.
I know RR has OMS because I've used substratum theme with it.
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Yes, ultimately that is true. It was just about as "vanilla" of LOS as I could manage.
@calsurferpunk
Well, like I said I don't want to detract from this ROM in any way. I just wanted detailed information about the difference between this ROM and your "unofficial" LOS ROM. In your thread last summer you said you had seen LOS patches so you were fairly sure there was OMS support in your ROM -- so I was confused why this one was claiming that feature like it's something new...
Anyway, users can decide what they want to use. Android is about choice.
We've probably taken too much space in this ROM thread, unless you have more information. Maybe take it to the ROM list thread?
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ChazzMatt said:
But you do incorporate other stuff than just "official". You apply a lot of what @bhb27 has in RR. It's not just plain jane LOS.
I know RR has OMS because I've used substratum theme with it.
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It has because RR team get the patches that I'd say and applied same as AEX and ViperOS teams. It isn't @bhb27 work that give full substratum support for RR or CrDroid.
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Just a conclusive statement.
The other Lineage ROM in the forum doesn't have OMS patches hence Substratum is only supported if the device is rooted and works in legacy mode. Many themes do not support Substratum's legacy mode and require the ROM to have the OMS patches baked in.
This ROM has this difference only. It has the OMS patches so that you can run Substratum in rootless mode and enjoy it's full functionality without causing subtle performance issues.
ROMs other than Lineage like RROS, crDroid already have the OMS patches merged into their master branches.
I am not a developer , call me ZIPer . LOL
I wanna that feature but this rom not support.
DON'T ASK FOR ETAs then compile it by yourself and share it.
peace
Can someone build this ROM with February security patch based in calsurferpunk unofficial LineageOS branch with only the OMS patches added.
Or the instructions to build it with the calsurferpunk unofficial LineageOS branch with only the OMS patches added.
lat94084 said:
Can someone build this ROM with February security patch based in calsurferpunk unofficial LineageOS branch with only the OMS patches added.
Or the instructions to build it with the calsurferpunk unofficial LineageOS branch with only the OMS patches added.
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Hi everyone!
I have my OP 5t (8/128) since release date and it is still my favourite phone!
I'm thinking about future update policy from OP... Still running OOS 9.0.4, but how many updates will we get in the future?
Is it better to switch to a Custom Rom for better and longer support in the future? If yes - what Custom Rom do you prefer and why?
stefan.irmen said:
Hi everyone!
I have my OP 5t (8/128) since release date and it is still my favourite phone!
I'm thinking about future update policy from OP... Still running OOS 9.0.4, but how many updates will we get in the future?
Is it better to switch to a Custom Rom for better and longer support in the future? If yes - what Custom Rom do you prefer and why?
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Pretty sure they will update 5t to q, dont know what will happen after that.
As for custom roms, try anything you want and see what suits your taste. Resurrection remix is a good example for customizations (or aex, havoc, coltos etc)
Omni Treskmod is kinda a flash and use style of rom. It is almost like Pixel Experience. You can also try diffrent kernel-rom combinations. You can try HMP and EAS based kernels. EAS is the one google have in their phones. You can google it up.
At the moment im trying DerpFest. My top 5 roms are;
1.Aex-Krieg(love krieg aex kernel)
2.ColtOS(Reminds me miui cause of it's diffrent recents style)
3.DerpFest(love it's boot animation and wallpapers)
4.Omni Treskmod(simple custom rom that you will never have a headache with but lacks customization)
5.CrDroid(enough customizations and overall stability.)
Some of the roms have problems with camera2api with WhatsApp and Instagram. I have asked many devs and thankfuly thry have fixed those problems. I would stay close with roms that have active telegram groups as you might need to troubleshoot if you find a bug.
Some roms have outdated xda threads such as ViperOS(saw a comment),ResurrectionRemix(latest builds in their sourceforge). So be sure to check their websites(if they have one) for latest builds before you download an older one.
Hope it helps...
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Thanks a lot for your opinion!
I tried different Custom Roms, but all have one or two bugs, so i turned back to stock OOS... The most stable and bugfree Custom Rom for me was Pixel Experience!
Hope we will get a few updates in the future for our OP 5t
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Pretty sure they will update 5t to q, dont know what will happen after that.
As for custom roms, try anything you want and see what suits your taste. Resurrection remix is a good example for customizations (or aex, havoc, coltos etc)
Omni Treskmod is kinda a flash and use style of rom. It is almost like Pixel Experience. You can also try diffrent kernel-rom combinations. You can try HMP and EAS based kernels. EAS is the one google have in their phones. You can google it up.
At the moment im trying DerpFest. My top 5 roms are;
1.Aex-Krieg(love krieg aex kernel)
2.ColtOS(Reminds me miui cause of it's diffrent recents style)
3.DerpFest(love it's boot animation and wallpapers)
4.Omni Treskmod(simple custom rom that you will never have a headache with but lacks customization)
5.CrDroid(enough customizations and overall stability.)
Some of the roms have problems with camera2api with WhatsApp and Instagram. I have asked many devs and thankfuly thry have fixed those problems. I would stay close with roms that have active telegram groups as you might need to troubleshoot if you find a bug.
Some roms have outdated xda threads such as ViperOS(saw a comment),ResurrectionRemix(latest builds in their sourceforge). So be sure to check their websites(if they have one) for latest builds before you download an older one.
What's your top pick in Kernel?
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VirginPancake said:
gsser said:
Pretty sure they will update 5t to q, dont know what will happen after that.
As for custom roms, try anything you want and see what suits your taste. Resurrection remix is a good example for customizations (or aex, havoc, coltos etc)
Omni Treskmod is kinda a flash and use style of rom. It is almost like Pixel Experience. You can also try diffrent kernel-rom combinations. You can try HMP and EAS based kernels. EAS is the one google have in their phones. You can google it up.
At the moment im trying DerpFest. My top 5 roms are;
1.Aex-Krieg(love krieg aex kernel)
2.ColtOS(Reminds me miui cause of it's diffrent recents style)
3.DerpFest(love it's boot animation and wallpapers)
4.Omni Treskmod(simple custom rom that you will never have a headache with but lacks customization)
5.CrDroid(enough customizations and overall stability.)
Some of the roms have problems with camera2api with WhatsApp and Instagram. I have asked many devs and thankfuly thry have fixed those problems. I would stay close with roms that have active telegram groups as you might need to troubleshoot if you find a bug.
Some roms have outdated xda threads such as ViperOS(saw a comment),ResurrectionRemix(latest builds in their sourceforge). So be sure to check their websites(if they have one) for latest builds before you download an older one.
What's your top pick in Kernel?
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Overall performance - battery = Aex Krieg
Best battery life = Mad Kernel
Best performance = Weeb Kernel
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gsser said:
VirginPancake said:
Overall performance - battery = Aex Krieg
Best battery life = Mad Kernel
Best performance = Weeb Kernel
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What's your opinion about RenderZenith or Weeb kernel? Those two are EAS right? Also franco kernel?
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gsser said:
What's your opinion about RenderZenith or Weeb kernel? Those two are EAS right? Also franco kernel?
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Franco kernel and app feels like too complicated for me. RenderZenith is good if you want only eas and no other custom stuff(it will give you a little bit better results compared to stock kernel.). It is best for people who want to flash and use. Weeb also got better with it's beta versions but still, i would use it if i was playing heavy graphical games. If you want battery and stuff you can set manually go for Aex-Krieg kernel.
If you want pure HMP kernel that is focused on battery i would suggest Mad Kernel. Eas is not really best for battery, it is best for balanced
Dont get me wrong, franco kernel might be good but it doesnt suit me and i really didnt get use to it.
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