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[Q] [XS] Are you genuinely happy with your phone?

So the Xperia S is well over a year old now, we've had delayed updates for the ICS at first and then the wtf delays for Jellybean. We've had bugs, lived with them and ultimately fixed, the dev community for it seems to be fully alive and kicking now with tons of roms to choose from.
but the question remains,
can you genuinely say that you are happy with the Xperia S?
for someone who bought the phone just about a month or so after being released at a premium price, my answer would be a very solid MEH.
Jellybean may have come, but it still gets pretty slow sometimes (and I use minimal apps, no cosmetic apps or custom launchers at all), tried custom roms (all the devs have done a tremendous job, but each rom still have their own problems).

I was very happy with the phone when it came out.
A few updates later, and battery life is terrible but everything else is ok.
To be honest, the battery life is making me really not like the phone. Something as simple as leaving it overnight with everything off and no use and it somehow drains 30 - 40%. On the release date firmware I could easily get 4 days with minimal use. Since the last few updates I am lucky to get 1 day barely using the phone.
Overall, I would also give it a resounding MEH.

Since Xperia Ion uses the same internals of Xperia S, I would say I am extremely satisfied with my phone. Battery life overnight drops randomly overnight. On a good night it drops 2%, 20% on a bad one. I investigated and the drop seems to come from Google Now and Facebook But battery life on the average day is below par. Playing Minion Rush straight for 1 hour results in 50% drop in battery. But I wouldn't blame Sony. The CPU inside in Qualcomm's first generation and isn't very powerful efficient. But I usually turn off the phone fearing the "radiation" from the network radios. The screen quality very good, and personally, better than Xperia Z. No comments of speaker quality as I usually use the headset. Pertaining to the Jelly Bean update, no doubt it's smooth and fluid and there's no many bugs. But I am very surprised Sony can miss the 1080p video problem. But if you discount that, I would say Sony did a great job.
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Yes,I am happy with my ion :3
Many people said bug there and there with their phone even in ICS...but my ICS is fine enough for me to keep me happy...but still Jellybean haven't arrived yet in Malaysia,but all firmware of Xperia in Malaysia are all stable that's what I like about it
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Will never be happy without the possibility of unlocking my BL.
If I wanted a ultra.locked system I buy an iPhone... And even that is jailbreakable.
Probably will not buy sony again during this policy from them.
About hardware... Xperia S is a good phone, no doubts about that.
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really happy with my Xperia Acro S, .200 Unlocked BL; Root.
1st day i got, already dunk into washing machine, been abuse it ever since.
no worries about battery though, camping/outdoor can last up to 72~80 hours should be enough for me.

nrdl said:
Will never be happy without the possibility of unlocking my BL.
If I wanted a ultra.locked system I buy an iPhone... And even that is jailbreakable.
Probably will not buy sony again during this policy from them.
About hardware... Xperia S is a good phone, no doubts about that.
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It's the telecom provider that requests your bootloader to be locked, not Sony. Even if you buy HTC or LG phones from the same network provider, there's high chances that it will be locked.
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lee480 said:
It's the telecom provider that requests your bootloader to be locked, not Sony. Even if you buy HTC or LG phones from the same network provider, there's high chances that it will be locked.
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Nope, Sony is the only OEM that locks its phones down. Samsung doesn't, neither HTC, LG or Motorola do.
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djolivier said:
Nope, Sony is the only OEM that locks its phones down. Samsung doesn't, neither HTC, LG or Motorola do.
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Your lack of research and sheer arrogance is commendable. Some US carrier variants of S4 and HTC One have their bootloaders locked. Go Google it yourself. Only difference: users have find ways to bypass the restriction in those phones.
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lee480 said:
Your lack of research and sheer arrogance is commendable. Some US carrier variants of S4 and HTC One have their bootloaders locked. Go Google it yourself. Only difference: users have find ways to bypass the restriction in those phones.
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Sorry, didn't know that as I don't live in the USA! I'm talking about European carriers.
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djolivier said:
Nope, Sony is the only OEM that locks its phones down. Samsung doesn't, neither HTC, LG or Motorola do.
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Motorola only started offering a bootloader unlock facility on their most recent phones in about August last year. As someone who still owns an older Motorola phone (a Defy+) I can assure you that it is not possible to unlock the bootloader on that phone - bought SIM-free so no tie-in or lock-downs from a network provider. Check the threads on the XDA Defy forums if you don't believe me: they gave up trying. Previously, some Motorola phones were available with unlocked bootloaders from new, but they were effectively special versions intended for developers. Until the change of policy last year normal phones were locked and not unlockable.
lee480 is correct: Xperia phones have the option to unlock the bootloader by design, but network providers can arrange for that option to be disabled on the phones that they supply. My XAS (again, bought SIM-free) has the bootloader unlock option available, I just haven't enabled it. There are plenty of folks posting in the Xperia forums on XDA who have unlocked the bootloaders on their phones using the method provided by Sony - just look in the development sub-forums. Sony also provide a helpful online guide which explains how to get your bootloader unlocked (check out their list of 30+ supported phones and compare that to Motorola's list of just six, two of which are "developer editions").
If you want to knock Sony, you could at least get your facts right.

I know how to unlock the bootloader of a "normal" XS. Mine has been locked down by my carrier, so I don't even need to try it with Sony's method as it won't work.
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Yes, I happy with my unlocked SL. Except the audio. The sound quality is poor for me, the volume too. Both on the phone's speaker and on my Beyerdynamic DT 235. My old SE LwW has got a much better audio system. Another problem the jack. It's really sensitive on my SL. (If my english is bad, sorry)

Only thing I miss is a bigger battery. Once the screen is on or you use gps the small battery really starts to struggle.
For my use, i don't feel JB is different compared to ICS. Only thing I would miss in JB is to turn of data/wifi when the screen of. I would also miss the honescreen redraw in JB that ICS didn't have in quite as often.
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Isn't the home screen redraw related to memory and a lack of it at that time?
Used the xs for a long time and my gripe was the rear case, clips became worn and slips off easily. Loved the display though, compared to my xz and XT is really vibrant

I'm not really content with my phone. Battery life is a huge problem and also the bloatware, can't do multitasking enough.

av4tar said:
Isn't the home screen redraw related to memory and a lack of it at that time?
Used the xs for a long time and my gripe was the rear case, clips became worn and slips off easily. Loved the display though, compared to my xz and XT is really vibrant
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Think it is. Seen it more with JB compared to ICS, not only with a browser that was most common in ICS.
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Xperia Acro S
I'm very happy with my Acro S. For me, it's the most suitable phone, even compared to current models.
It's 4.3'' display has just the right dimensions to still be used with one hand and to still fit in any pocket.
It's water resistant; which is important since i'm sometimes somewhat heavy-handed (I already sunk two phones in my life, one got irreparably damaged by hot spiced wine aka "Glühwein").
It's SD-card slot enables me using my 32GB memory extension for keeping my music, my pics and videos and some general data. Which is not always that important in everyday-life, but when travelling, it's really nice (eg OSM map data).
I have an unlocked bootloader and have it rooted since my third week of use (which was Stock ICS that days).
With the camera mods from XDA members, even the camera makes nice (enough) pictures and videos. It's quick shot by hardware button feature is great.
My battery lasts 48h with usual use (including the sleeping times). But (to be on the save side) I usually charge it every night. I don't switch off Wifi, Bluetooth, ANT, GPS, GSM/3G-Data.
I like the ANT+-feature for running. 1 hour of running with BT headset, music player, GPS and heatrate tracking (runtastic) drains my battery by something like 10% (including the other general stuff like mail/calender sync and stuff at that time).
I use it for playing music on my way to work via bluetooth headset and in my car via bluetooth caraudio connector.
I home-improved a common docking station to be my car cradle for charging and provding me easy access to navigation and music control while driving. (I extremely like the charging pads of the Acro S for that, since I don't have to connect any wires.)
I home-crafted an alternative charging cradle for the charging pads; so I can place the phone horizontally on my bed while charging. (You know the "Sleep-as-Android"-app? Does not wake you when you're in deep sleep (until a deadline).)
I like to impress other smartphone users (especially iPhone) with the OTG feature. ("You want the photos of the last class reunion? You have your USB memory with you? You can have them right here and now...")
The phone is very stable (was with ICS and is with JB). I can't remember when it's OS crashed last time. I sometimes reboot it to free up some left-behind memory; that's all.
I like reading magazines (PDF) with Acrobat Reader when having to travel via train. The great display resolution makes it look really nice. (Of course, only if the magazine's good. IEEE Spectrum is good! )
I'm just waiting for an updated (XDA member's) 3.4-kernel giving me working cifs/smb-support, so that I can use my NAS again. (With ICS you needed a downloadable kernel module; JB kernel should already have it, but was broken in Linux' 3.4-sources.):fingers-crossed:
Just two little things to complain:
It's camera could be a little less noise when dark.
It could have more RAM. (When you have a lot of heavy apps running like Whatsapp, Hangout, Firefox/Chrome etc, Android starts continuously stopping and restarting background tasks and kills the launcher. That's annoying and drains the battery.) So: 2GB RAM and a better camera and it would be perfect.

The screen timing is too short. Standby is ok, but not with screen on.
Sometimes, msg would get stuck in outbox when I use go sms, while default msg app don have function like save msg into other folders, pop up box etc.
Every first update is buggy(first ics and jb sucks)
Illuminated bar don work in jb.
The camera could have been better(focus etc)
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sinple said:
The screen timing is too short.
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Workaround: Think about the app Keep Screen On.

Someone tested the GPS?

Hello,
Somebody tested the GPS? I ask because i want to buy this phone (K420N European version). And i go in mountain for big walk and need a good GPS.
My previous phone Moto E first gen and LG Spirit 4G LTE (H440n) has no problems.
You can see my Hiking: http://www.sports-tracker.com/view_profile/ivailo87
Thank you!
Best Regards,
Ivaylo Ivanov

Well, my t mobile variant has a bad habit of dropping the GPS fix. It gets it back pretty quickly if it has a data connection.
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I own K430 version and it seems that GPS works very good, maybe better than on my older L90 410. GPS fix is fast, a few seconds and the accuracy is also fine for me. I use it for cycling. It means, I ride some distance, then look at the phone and it always finds my location very fast. I use Maps.me app.

Very well

LeEco Le Pro 3 Review (Real User Review)

I've had my Le Pro 3 for over a week now and just published my full detailed video review which covers pretty much everything from the design, cameras, dual loudspeakers, benchmarks, GPS and wifi range and speeds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfTIx-DWcmo
I also ran a speed test and comparison against my Xiaomi Mi 5S Plus just to see how they compared as both have Snapdragon 821's and 4GB of RAM.
Overall it's a very decent mobile however, it still has the flaws from the Le Max 2, large black bezels, no MicroSD or 3.5mm port are deal breakers for some. Audio from the type-c to 3.5mm adaptor is very clean and sounds great. No static and loud too.
The camera is a bit of a let down, no OIS still and while it can take some decent photos in good light, low light and video is not the greatest for a flagship mobile. The Chinese need to really step up their game on the camera department. I wouldn't by this mobile for the best camera, I would buy it for good performance and great battery life. I was able to get around 11 hours of SoC (continuous)
Camera samples:
Benchmarks and battery life screen grabs:

Thx with this first review

Thank you And great job !

I was planning to ditch my Axon 7 for this phone, but not really that sure anymore. Seems like a lateral transfer, not really an upgrade in any way (except for battery life I suppose?).

wow..12hr screen on time. That is impressive.

Hendrickson said:
I've had my Le Pro 3 for over a week now and just published my full detailed video review which covers pretty much everything from the design, cameras, dual loudspeakers, benchmarks, GPS and wifi range and speeds.
I also ran a speed test and comparison against my Xiaomi Mi 5S Plus just to see how they compared as both have Snapdragon 821's and 4GB of RAM.
Overall it's a very decent mobile however, it still has the flaws from the Le Max 2, large black bezels, no MicroSD or 3.5mm port are deal breakers for some. Audio from the type-c to 3.5mm adaptor is very clean and sounds great. No static and loud too.
The camera is a bit of a let down, no OIS still and while it can take some decent photos in good light, low light and video is not the greatest for a flagship mobile. The Chinese need to really step up their game on the camera department. I wouldn't by this mobile for the best camera, I would buy it for good performance and great battery life. I was able to get around 11 hours of SoC (continuous)
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I want to buy the phone because it has great specs (does it feel as good as it sounds?) but I want to know if google services work flawlessly e.g. contact syncing,play store. Since you have this phone what is your general opinion about it, does it work buying it?
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tritran18518 said:
wow..12hr screen on time. That is impressive.
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I think that 12 hours was the time it was active

chtsarts said:
I want to buy the phone because it has great specs (does it feel as good as it sounds?) but I want to know if google services work flawlessly e.g. contact syncing,play store. Since you have this phone what is your general opinion about it, does it work buying it?
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I think that 12 hours was the time it was active
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I also have this phone. No problem with Google services or Play store. Contactar syncing was perfect, with Google account and others account.
Two days with It and i like It a lot.
In my experience 6:30 of screen with 4G and almost without wifi.
Sorry for my english.

Thanks for the review. Maybe the Pro3 is not the best phone ever made. But it seems to be very very good, will most likely not explode and - taking into account the price - there is simply no competition. Hopefully, my phone will be delivered soon ...

I've received it today...very beautiful and work really good. We need an international ROM however.
I have this problem...it doesn't let me change or delete default APN. A problem I read is already present in other EUI smartphone someone has solved this Problem?
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Hendrickson said:
I've had my Le Pro 3 for over a week now and just published my full detailed video review which covers pretty much everything from the design, cameras, dual loudspeakers, benchmarks, GPS and wifi range and speeds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfTIx-DWcmo
I also ran a speed test and comparison against my Xiaomi Mi 5S Plus just to see how they compared as both have Snapdragon 821's and 4GB of RAM.
Overall it's a very decent mobile however, it still has the flaws from the Le Max 2, large black bezels, no MicroSD or 3.5mm port are deal breakers for some. Audio from the type-c to 3.5mm adaptor is very clean and sounds great. No static and loud too.
The camera is a bit of a let down, no OIS still and while it can take some decent photos in good light, low light and video is not the greatest for a flagship mobile. The Chinese need to really step up their game on the camera department. I wouldn't by this mobile for the best camera, I would buy it for good performance and great battery life. I was able to get around 11 hours of SoC (continuous)
Camera samples:
Benchmarks and battery life screen grabs:
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Thanks for that great review. Just some questions. Believe there are some like me who do not have access to LeEco products but are still keen on buying from an online reseller but have some concerns.
1. Are there any noticeable hardware issues? - understand that there are some complaints recently even on the le 2 that the display was not installed properly. Wondering if there are other types of defects that could render the device unusable for the obsessive compulsive people out there
2. What sort of rom is your unit using? - Importers/international sellers are known to meddle with the device to cater to the demands of their target demographic especially to those outside of china, hence, they can install fake roms (custom miui roms that don't receive updates for example) or install play store (after a restore to factory option, the gapps disappear)
3. The rom US units use seem to differ to the non-us units and the model numbers also differ. Would this be an issue if say the international rom is released and its not compatible with a unit bought from an importer? - had an issue before with a mi5 where the rom was an unofficial one and had to go through the hassle of unlocking the bootloader and installing the global rom instead
4.Any idea of software support in the long run and how prompt are LeEco's updates; ie Android N?
Thanks in advance and patience!

I know that US version x727 should be only 4/64 4gb ram and 64 GB ROM. It should have different LTE bands...in order to be used on us market.
Probably the us ROM couldn't be used on Chinese units.
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Thanks for a great review. I am ordering this when it becomes available in the US. Can't beat the price for what is in it.

androFRUST said:
Thanks for that great review. Just some questions. Believe there are some like me who do not have access to LeEco products but are still keen on buying from an online reseller but have some concerns.
1. Are there any noticeable hardware issues? - understand that there are some complaints recently even on the le 2 that the display was not installed properly. Wondering if there are other types of defects that could render the device unusable for the obsessive compulsive people out there
2. What sort of rom is your unit using? - Importers/international sellers are known to meddle with the device to cater to the demands of their target demographic especially to those outside of china, hence, they can install fake roms (custom miui roms that don't receive updates for example) or install play store (after a restore to factory option, the gapps disappear)
3. The rom US units use seem to differ to the non-us units and the model numbers also differ. Would this be an issue if say the international rom is released and its not compatible with a unit bought from an importer? - had an issue before with a mi5 where the rom was an unofficial one and had to go through the hassle of unlocking the bootloader and installing the global rom instead
4.Any idea of software support in the long run and how prompt are LeEco's updates; ie Android N?
Thanks in advance and patience!
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I have been using pro3 (x720) for three weeks. The screen display picture occasionally shake for about 0.2 second. This is the most disturbing issue. You can find the same complain in the Chinese leEco forum. Beside, mobile signal is not as strong as the nexus 5 I used for almost 3 years. If you can ignore these two issue, it's a great phone to have.

jwong.hhf said:
I have been using pro3 (x720) for three weeks. The screen display picture occasionally shake for about 0.2 second. This is the most disturbing issue. You can find the same complain in the Chinese leEco forum. Beside, mobile signal is not as strong as the nexus 5 I used for almost 3 years. If you can ignore these two issue, it's a great phone to have.
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Do you think its software related? Whats the rom they're using? Is it like the Mi phones where there is a vendor altered rom installed and does leeco release global stable roms like miui? Sorry, bear with me here ! thanks!

androFRUST said:
Do you think its software related? Whats the rom they're using? Is it like the Mi phones where there is a vendor altered rom installed and does leeco release global stable roms like miui? Sorry, bear with me here ! thanks!
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We all running stock rom with/without root. I hope it's rom related issue. As of now ,no official rom zip is available from LeEco.

Hi,
Just bought the 6/64 nonUS Version to use in Europe. Bought it after watching your review, thanks for that!....
Will directly root the phone in order to remove the chinese App's but wating for some plain Android rom's (stock Android). Had CM9 or so on a galaxy before and i wasnt that suprised as i supposed to be, but will also give it a try if it comes available to the Le Pro 3....
I'm sure with the actual specs and this awesome price the community behind the Pro3 will grow fast. Also i would donate 10€ to support the devs.
Sure to be here more often in future.
Thx&Rgds,
Maxcyber

I just got my Chinese version (6GB/64GB Dual Sim) - The phone is lightning fast. Screen looks great - camera is okay (I just snap pics anyways not really a photo person). The screen is decent if not a bit washed out. Indoors is just fine - outdoors I have to crank it to about 85% to see it. The fingerprint reader seems lightning fast if not 100% accurate. ( I get about 4 out 5 times). It let me add multiple fingerprints to unlock left or right handed. Overall the build is pretty solid. I put in my att sim and did not have to do anything else. Picked up all my settings. My antutu scores are 162397 - just shy of iphone 7 scores. Apparently the install is not google certified. I cannot run Pokemon Go or Android Pay (and snapchat I am told I don't use it). Pokemon Go is the soul breaker for me...
The GPS seems to lock lightning quick. I have not had any issues with Google apps although some updating had to happen (google services, play app, mail app etc...).
The battery seems amazing. I am getting great times out of it I don't have exact numbers but so far so good at least as good as my s7 edge.
I was able to put the google now launcher on it so no issue with the leeco skin.
Hopefully with the US launch tomorrow it will have a google certified image so I can run Pokemon go if not I am not sure I will keep it.

Pokemon go functions on official ROM ...see my screenshots.
I can't Android pay isn't active in Italy.I can't prove it...sorry.
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Yeah I don't understand I got mine from geekbuying.com so why would I not have official rom?
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Pokemon go functions on official ROM ...see my screenshots.
I can't Android pay isn't active in Italy.I can't prove it...sorry.
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I got the 6g/64gb dual sim model from geekbuying - how can I get the correct rom on it?

See here!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/help/le-pro-3-pokemon-t3491441
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Galileo satellites can be used with Mi A2 lite

Hello,
First, I apologize for my bad English, it's not my native language. Second, I'm not an expert like most of you, just a little bit more than a noob.
I have wondered me if it is possible to catch and use Galileo satellites in our smartphone. And after read lots of threads, I believed it was not possible. I have understood that the Snapdragon 625 is compatible with Gallileo but needs some software update to activate the functionality.
Nevertheless, I did some tests with GPS test and GPStest developed by Sean Barbeau. And I can catch some Gallileo satellites. Not only I can see them, but I'm pretty sure that they can be used to locate. But it's very strange because I can only catch few of them and the signal is very low compared to US GPS and Russian Glonass. Even Beidou satellites provide a better signal.
I must precise that I'm located in Paris.
If you want, I can upload some screenshots to show you what I can consider as an evidence of the Galileo functionality.
But why the signal is weaker than other satellite networks? And why Xiaomi specifications only says GPS, Glonass and Beidou?
It seems that only Xiaomi mi 8 is officially compatible with Gallileo...
Not very sure to understand...
Last information, I'm not rooted and I have the last update of Android One
Thanks for your comments and information

I see the Galileo sats too, and some times it actually locked on some (or at least, that what GPSTest was showing).

General advice on buying this phone

So, I'm in a market for a new phone, and my current best bet is the xiaomi mi 10T pro. Now, since it's locked on my local telecom provider network, I can get it with a new 2 year contract, so no returns possible. Reading tons of reviews, and user experiences, I came to conclusion that it's a great hardware phone with a really crappy sowtware. The phone I cvan get has a MIUI12 version, but they can't say is it 12.0 or 12.5.
What are my concerns? I see that the biggest issues is car bluetooth connectivity, and WiFi connectivity. Both major issues for me.
I have a 2012 renault Scenic that doesn't use android auto, but a proprietary (arkamys and tomtom) system. If the phone comes with android 10, and I don't install any updates until a less buggy version of android 11 MIUI comes out.. should I be ok? Or if the system is android 11 out of the box.. Should I expect constant problems and simply avoid the phone? Are all xiaomi phones running MIUI12.5.1. affected?
Custom ROMs are not an option because that would void the 2 year warranty.
thank you

The Mi10T Pro is an excellent choice that gets better with every update.
I actually hated this phone a lot when I bought it due to the auto screen dimming being too harsh, so I also bought a Samsung Galaxy 20 FE 5G, then a P30 Pro, then a Poco F2 Pro and finally a Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra (& I tested them all equally) What I found was I hate under screen fingerprint sensors (the side mounted fingerprint sensor detection on the Mi10T Pro is instant) and despite the camera arrays on all the other phones being 'on paper' better I found the Xiaomi phone 'on average' took better shots. Also video recording is night and day better than all the other phones I tested with very little shimmer and balance correction/focus when the light started to get low.
As for MIUI I have never had an issue apart from the woefully lacking security updates but hopefully now I've manually updated to 12.5.5 (I was on Jan 2020 update waiting for an EU 12.5.1 from 12.1.1) updates should come quicker (& it's very stable)
As for connectivity I have not encountered any issues with Bluetooth streaming or connecting to headphones but I do not have the accessories you connect to.
Lastly the prices for these phones should drop like a stone as they have just announced the Mi11T & Pro so you may find it cheaper to buy one used after the Mi11T & Pro is released.

So.. you say I should go for it...Current price is around 270$.. Don't believe it will drop that much... more likely it will get taken out of the offer.

the main negative aspect of this phone is the camera... i came from lg v20 because it was the latest flagship phone with the infrared feature. a five years old phone still takes better pictures then the 10t pro... you rarely use the 108mp cam because the software sucks. so you are stuck with 13mp... also, this phone is missing some basic features like you cant plug and play using type-c to hdmi output....but for the price, is definitely a nice cheap phone to have for work maybe lol. or use it as a universal remote haha

I came from a huawei P7 phone...gone to samsung A30... Anything is better than A30. I don't need any special bells and whistles.. just that the bluetooth connectivity works, and GPS signal is stable..

paul999 said:
the main negative aspect of this phone is the camera... i came from lg v20 because it was the latest flagship phone with the infrared feature. a five years old phone still takes better pictures then the 10t pro... you rarely use the 108mp cam because the software sucks. so you are stuck with 13mp... also, this phone is missing some basic features like you cant plug and play using type-c to hdmi output....but for the price, is definitely a nice cheap phone to have for work maybe lol. or use it as a universal remote haha
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Change the Format to 3:4 in the drop down menu in Miui camera to have the pixel binned 27MP resolution.

So...I'm not getting any viable information here. If I get this phone, and keep it on android 10, ignoring updates, will the Bluetooth and WiFi work normally, and glitch free?

creborn said:
So...I'm not getting any viable information here. If I get this phone, and keep it on android 10, ignoring updates, will the Bluetooth and WiFi work normally, and glitch free?
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The wifi and Bluetooth are basic things that will work just right but it depends also on the devices which they connect to.