Hello
I have a Z1 Compact with a pre-rooted stock rom, but a bootloader that can't be unlcoked.
My question is can I still use a custom rom? If so, how?
Thanks
PS. If this is the wrong forum then please move to appropriate forum.
sconly said:
Hello
I have a Z1 Compact with a pre-rooted stock rom, but a bootloader that can't be unlcoked.
My question is can I still use a custom rom? If so, how?
Thanks
PS. If this is the wrong forum then please move to appropriate forum.
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AFAIK bootloader status is relevant to the kernel, as far as flashing roms goes, so if the rom has a non-sony kernel, there will be no way to flash it without unlocked bl. There are several stock-based custom roms that should still work if you have root and recovery, (rockz1, dstriker, Kryptonian, munjeni's modded roms, prfs...).
levone1 said:
AFAIK bootloader status is relevant to the kernel, as far as flashing roms goes, so if the rom has a non-sony kernel, there will be no way to flash it without unlocked bl. There are several stock-based custom roms that should still work if you have root and recovery, (rockz1, dstriker, Kryptonian, munjeni's modded roms, prfs...).
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How do I know if I have recovery? And if I do, how do I get to it?
Thanks
sconly said:
How do I know if I have recovery? And if I do, how do I get to it?
Thanks
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If you have recovery, you should get a flash of led light when you boot, (maybe purple or orange), when you see the flash, press volume up or down to enter recovery.
To get recovery, go here -
http://nut.xperia-files.com/
Go to xz dual recovery>xz dual recovery 2826> z1c combined. Download it and run the installer on your computer. You will need drivers installed, and probably adb.
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I am pretty new to flashing ROMS and rooting. I rooted my S2 back in 2011. but since then I haven't. So i though I would do it with the Xperia S.
I installed XTXperience 9, unlocked bootloader. rooted n fastboot. I downloaded cwm recovery. cleared everything. installed the ROM, and It has got stuck in boot loop.
I was on the 6.1.A.2.45 firmware if that helps?
could someone please give me some short instructions and tell me what I am doing wrong I need this ROM looks so cool!
Please don't bite my head off either. I need help. it's only way i'll learn
Please someone
If you have unlocked bootloader, why don't you install a custom kernel? Like Advanced ICS Kernel, ELiTE, etc.
Nek0x90 said:
If you have unlocked bootloader, why don't you install a custom kernel? Like Advanced ICS Kernel, ELiTE, etc.
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Not sure how to do that yet. would that possibly fix the boot loop I am having??
I've never installed a recovery manually, because I've always flashed a custom kernel with a recovery included, maybe that's why you're having a boot loop but I'm not sure.
If you already unlocked the bootloader you should flash a stock based kernel and that's it.
Nek0x90 said:
I've never installed a recovery manually, because I've always flashed a custom kernel with a recovery included, maybe that's why you're having a boot loop but I'm not sure.
If you already unlocked the bootloader you should flash a stock based kernel and that's it.
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Okay well I have stock kernal I only tried flashing the ROM. how do I get out of this boot loop?
Flash a stock firmware with Flashtool.
Nek0x90 said:
Flash a stock firmware with Flashtool.
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That did it. back on stock now. should I try flashing the custom ROM again?
Yes, and you can also try flashing a custom kernel.
Just follow this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527159
Nek0x90 said:
Yes, and you can also try flashing a custom kernel.
Just follow this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527159
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I unlocked the bootloader before it got in the bootloop. after flashing firmware I guess it is still unlocked. just need to root it again
If you already have you bootloader unlocked just flash a custom kernel! If you flash a ROM after that, it will be pre-rooted.
Nek0x90 said:
If you already have you bootloader unlocked just flash a custom kernel! If you flash a ROM after that, it will be pre-rooted.
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any short instructions or link where I can learn how to install a custom kernel?
hey click my signature "Read ME"
technostein said:
any short instructions or link where I can learn how to install a custom kernel?
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Just download zip & flash in your phone's recovery. Clear cache & dalvik cache before that
Press Thanks
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technostein said:
I am pretty new to flashing ROMS and rooting. I rooted my S2 back in 2011. but since then I haven't. So i though I would do it with the Xperia S.
I installed XTXperience 9, unlocked bootloader. rooted n fastboot. I downloaded cwm recovery. cleared everything. installed the ROM, and It has got stuck in boot loop.
I was on the 6.1.A.2.45 firmware if that helps?
could someone please give me some short instructions and tell me what I am doing wrong I need this ROM looks so cool!
Please don't bite my head off either. I need help. it's only way i'll learn
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I tried with .45. .55 .50 Gb firmwares . Only .50 firmware gave me success like mentioned in the tutorial. :good:
Hit thanks if i helped
hello every body
is there a .ftf file with root and cwm in it ?
i need it because every time i try a rom and have a no boot i need to flash a stock rom and root it and install cwm w then i can try again with another rom so is there a prerooted ftf file with cwm preinstalled ?? or is there a shorter way ??
sorry about my bad english (it is not my first language)
AW: ftf with root and cwm
ash-ta said:
hello every body
is there a .ftf file with root and cwm in it ?
i need it because every time i try a rom and have a no boot i need to flash a stock rom and root it and install cwm w then i can try again with another rom so is there a prerooted ftf file with cwm preinstalled ?? or is there a shorter way ??
sorry about my bad english (it is not my first language)
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that was also my first question on xda, good old times...
No, it's not possible, ftf. files can only be made by Sony, so you've got to do always the same prodecure for flashing, rooting,....
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Master of Bisaster said:
that was also my first question on xda, good old times...
No, it's not possible, ftf. files can only be made by Sony, so you've got to do always the same prodecure for flashing, rooting,....
Sent from my LT18i using xda app-developers app
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thank you so much for your answer
so i think i will keep doing that long thing again and again
That's a really tedious procedure you're following. When I try a custom ROM and don't like it, all I do is:
1) If switching between an ICS ROM and a JB ROM and vice versa, reflash the kernel, then reflash the ROM.
2) If moving from one ICS ROM to another, or one JB ROM to another, just reflash the ROM.
3) If moving from ICS/JB to GB or vice versa, flash the stock ROM, flash the kernel, and then flash the custom ROM.
You don't need to keep on flashing the stock ROM, rooting it, installing CWM, then installing the custom ROM. Kernels, as far as I know, usually come with recovery installed. If you're in a bootloop, just follow the pertinent steps from the list outlined above.
MarcSinger said:
That's a really tedious procedure you're following. When I try a custom ROM and don't like it, all I do is:
1) If switching between an ICS ROM and a JB ROM and vice versa, reflash the kernel, then reflash the ROM.
2) If moving from one ICS ROM to another, or one JB ROM to another, just reflash the ROM.
3) If moving from ICS/JB to GB or vice versa, flash the stock ROM, flash the kernel, and then flash the custom ROM.
You don't need to keep on flashing the stock ROM, rooting it, installing CWM, then installing the custom ROM. Kernels, as far as I know, usually come with recovery installed. If you're in a bootloop, just follow the pertinent steps from the list outlined above.
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that is rghit but the problem is i need the cwm for flashing the new rom and i have no boot (just sony logo) i cant enter the cwm so i find that i need to reinstall the cwm and try again
if i say any thing wrong please correct it to me maybe you teach me some thing that is new to me
ash-ta said:
maybe you teach me some thing that is new to me
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Go read the stickys, get some basic knowledge and learn something for yourself, then ask questions about what you don't fully understand, on an existing thread that you found while Googling.
bootloader locked or unlocked because it sounds like you have a locked bootloader, if it is unlocked then why dont you flash a kernel eg. kernel rush with CWM already on it ?
ash-ta said:
that is rghit but the problem is i need the cwm for flashing the new rom and i have no boot (just sony logo) i cant enter the cwm so i find that i need to reinstall the cwm and try again
if i say any thing wrong please correct it to me maybe you teach me some thing that is new to me
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You don't need to install CWM again, even if you're in a boot loop. Once the phone reboots, keep pressing the "down" volume rocker, as you always do, and you'll enter into recovery. If you're moving to a different Android version (for example, ICS to JB), switch off your phone and flash the appropriate kernel. Then all you need to do is reflash your previous ROM or flash any other ROM that you want. However, that's only possible if you've download your previous and/or other ROMs onto your SD card, too. Do you do that before you flash?
I don't have any experience with locked bootloaders, but the user above IS of the opinion that you might be on one. If that's the reason you're having to go through so many steps to flash a ROM, why don't you try unlocking the bootloader of your phone? I'm more than certain your phone's not covered under warranty anymore, and unlocking the bootloader is definitely not going to fry your phone or anything of the sort.
Hey guys, as the post title says, I'm trying to install the xperia play z rom, and I'm hitting a lot of road blocks. First one is, I don't even know if my phone's bootloader is unlocked! I'm pretty sure it is, because I thought all r800a's came with an unlocked bootloader, and I also used the flashtool, unlock bootloader tool, and it said it was already unlocked.
So, naturally what I do, is I flash the firmware in the guide (located here - http://www.android-hilfe.de/root-cu...a-play/417392-rom-xperia-play-z-v1-1-0-a.html), and after that I want to root it so I can install a recovery. But when I try to root it, it always fails on part 1. So I tried to install cyanogenmod recovery without it. But after the apk is installed, i'm not able to install the actual recovery because it is not rooted.
My main problem with the guide is that it says to just boot into clockworkmod recovery, but I don't know how to. I turn on the phone and press the up button, but without installing the CWM/X-parts recovery, there's no way I can expect it to come up.
Any help please? I'm totally lost here. I know how to get roms that are based on gingerbread, but for some reason, Ics/Jellybean roms don't work at all, and I don't know if it is whether because my phones bootloader isn't unlocked (even though it says it is), or it's something else, like me missing a tutorial specifically for ics/jellybean roms.
Thanks in advance.
fishvtt said:
Hey guys, as the post title says, I'm trying to install the xperia play z rom, and I'm hitting a lot of road blocks. First one is, I don't even know if my phone's bootloader is unlocked! I'm pretty sure it is, because I thought all r800a's came with an unlocked bootloader, and I also used the flashtool, unlock bootloader tool, and it said it was already unlocked.
So, naturally what I do, is I flash the firmware in the guide (located here - http://www.android-hilfe.de/root-cu...a-play/417392-rom-xperia-play-z-v1-1-0-a.html), and after that I want to root it so I can install a recovery. But when I try to root it, it always fails on part 1. So I tried to install cyanogenmod recovery without it. But after the apk is installed, i'm not able to install the actual recovery because it is not rooted.
My main problem with the guide is that it says to just boot into clockworkmod recovery, but I don't know how to. I turn on the phone and press the up button, but without installing the CWM/X-parts recovery, there's no way I can expect it to come up.
Any help please? I'm totally lost here. I know how to get roms that are based on gingerbread, but for some reason, Ics/Jellybean roms don't work at all, and I don't know if it is whether because my phones bootloader isn't unlocked (even though it says it is), or it's something else, like me missing a tutorial specifically for ics/jellybean roms.
Thanks in advance.
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Well you have to flash an ICS kernel first and it will already have a cwm recovery in it. Then you can just boot to recovery and flash the rom
Sent from my Xperia Play (r800x)
abdel12345 said:
Well you have to flash an ICS kernel first and it will already have a cwm recovery in it. Then you can just boot to recovery and flash the rom
Sent from my Xperia Play (r800x)
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OHHHHHHHHH. Thank you so much. But how am I supposed to flash the boot.img for the modified doomkernel v3, which it says it includes in the guide? Am I supposed to extract it from the rom zip or something? Thanks again.
fishvtt said:
OHHHHHHHHH. Thank you so much. But how am I supposed to flash the boot.img for the modified doomkernel v3, which it says it includes in the guide? Am I supposed to extract it from the rom zip or something? Thanks again.
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yes, boot.img is inside the zip. Unpack just that file and flash it with flashtool (in fastboot mode). But you must have unlocked bootloader to be able to flash any custom kernel
Bakisha said:
yes, boot.img is inside the zip. Unpack just that file and flash it with flashtool (in fastboot mode). But you must have unlocked bootloader to be able to flash any custom kernel
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Alright. Thank you so much. So that's what I was missing.
Bakisha said:
yes, boot.img is inside the zip. Unpack just that file and flash it with flashtool (in fastboot mode). But you must have unlocked bootloader to be able to flash any custom kernel
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Sorry, another question. What happens is that when I try to flash an ics kernel, it goes into an infinite bootloop, but when I flash a gingerbread kernel, it works fine. Is this a sign of a locked bootloader? Cause I thought you wouldn't be able to install any kernels if it was locked.
fishvtt said:
Sorry, another question. What happens is that when I try to flash an ics kernel, it goes into an infinite bootloop, but when I flash a gingerbread kernel, it works fine. Is this a sign of a locked bootloader? Cause I thought you wouldn't be able to install any kernels if it was locked.
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If you flash ics kernel, you won't be able to boot your old gb rom. Ics kernel only boot into ics rom.
When you flash ics kernel, go to recovery and install ics rom.
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Bakisha said:
If you flash ics kernel, you won't be able to boot your old gb rom. Ics kernel only boot into ics rom.
When you flash ics kernel, go to recovery and install ics rom.
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Thank you so much. Worked like a charm.
For future readers -
a. The r800a indeed does come with bootloader unlocked
b. It is normal for the phone to bootloop, Just go into recovery like normal and install the rom .zip. (It's usually tapping back while starting the phone, but if that doesn't work, try up volume or down volume)
hi,
after spending a lot of time in the KitSlim thread i'm getting more and more confused.
One person says do it that way, another suggests a different approach.
i'd like to install the KitSlim Evo9 from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2743177
I'm currently running a stock 4.4.4 rooted with locked bootloader and a dualrecovery on my Z1C
- boot in TWRP
- do all the wipes
- flash the Rom from SD1
- without reboot flash the gapps
- power off
- use the flashtool to flash the 108 NUTStockKernel
- reboot & done
My Questions so far:
Is this order correct?
does the Rom file need to be on the internal Storage or would the SDCard also work?
Is the NutStockKernel ok for my locked BL, or do i just need to flash a standart 108Kernel file?
(Some say the NutStockKernel is only for unlocked Bootloader, some say it's for locked BL)
Does this NutStockKernel come with a dualrecovery?
Some even suggest not to flash a Kernel because i'm allready on a 4.4.4_108 !?
thanks in advance for answers!
the more i read here the harder it seems to get ^^ but i'll try.
this is a great community!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54777670
This is the process I used, worked fine.
thanks for the reply. i'll give it a go then.
If you already have fw.108 on your phone, you don't need to flash NUTs kernel.
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If you already have fw.108 on your phone, you don't need to flash NUTs kernel.
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does that mean, that the dual recovery will still be there?
(as far as i understand the recovery is in the kernel)
or does the recovery come with the ROM? cause it says in the thread that dual recovery is built in
schnitzelpete said:
does that mean, that the dual recovery will still be there?
(as far as i understand the recovery is in the kernel)
or does the recovery come with the ROM? cause it says in the thread that dual recovery is built in
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Recovery is built into the rom, so whatever you do don't flash nuts recovery again after kitslim or you'll end up in bootloop and have to start from scratch flashing a stock rom.
So coming from a stock rom fw.108, with root and recovery (but locked bootloader) go into recovery, wipe system wipe cache&dalvik (don't reboot) flash the Evo9 then the Full gapps, that's it.
Even if it goes horribly wrong, you still won't unlock the bootloader, and rebuilds are so easy now thanks to Easyroot
thx for the advice. i did it and it's running on my phone now \o/
runs great, and no bugs encountered yet!
still got some questions.
are there any restrictions to what software to install with KitSlim running?
schnitzelpete said:
thx for the advice. i did it and it's running on my phone now \o/
runs great, and no bugs encountered yet!
still got some questions.
are there any restrictions to what software to install with KitSlim running?
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I think you should head over to the KitSlim thread, but no, it's just the same as a stock rom, install what you like. Although pay attention to which modules you install with Xposed, as some of them can clash.
i need 10 posts min. to post there, thats why i asked here.
Hi,
I never had this problem with other devices.
I have rooted my xperia z1c and installed custom recovery following the tutorial on xda. I was able to install xposed on kitkat and playing around with all sorts of rooted goodies ...
After that I tried no 3 times ! 3 different 5.0 custom roms. I followed the steps including wiping etc. Everytime I am ending up on a black screen with doing a reset through sonys software with the original unrooted rom.
I think I managed it one time to install a custom 4.4.4 rom without a problem. MAybe it has something to do with lollipop. Do I have to install a certain custom rom before installing a lollipop rom ? After flashing the rom I flashed the recovery fix btw. But I wasnt able to enter recovery mod ( black screen ) The phone seemed to work fine ( sony software deteced the phone instantly )
Any ideas?
BobderDritte said:
Hi,
I never had this problem with other devices.
I have rooted my xperia z1c and installed custom recovery following the tutorial on xda. I was able to install xposed on kitkat and playing around with all sorts of rooted goodies ...
After that I tried no 3 times ! 3 different 5.0 custom roms. I followed the steps including wiping etc. Everytime I am ending up on a black screen with doing a reset through sonys software with the original unrooted rom.
I think I managed it one time to install a custom 4.4.4 rom without a problem. MAybe it has something to do with lollipop. Do I have to install a certain custom rom before installing a lollipop rom ? After flashing the rom I flashed the recovery fix btw. But I wasnt able to enter recovery mod ( black screen ) The phone seemed to work fine ( sony software deteced the phone instantly )
Any ideas?
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Possibly not a new idea, as I believe you already did that, but, did you unlock the Bootloader?
bratusm said:
Possibly not a new idea, as I believe you already did that, but, did you unlock the Bootloader?
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thanks for any idea
to be honest I am not sure .. I used fastbood for installing the firmware , I think I didn´t. Do I need to unlock the bootloader to install custom roms cause I installed one without a problem ( 4.4.4 )
OK I check it. I didnt unlock my bootload so thanks for that .. but why was it possible to install a custom kitkat rom ?
BobderDritte said:
thanks for any idea
to be honest I am not sure .. I used fastbood for installing the firmware , I think I didn´t. Do I need to unlock the bootloader to install custom roms cause I installed one without a problem ( 4.4.4 )
OK I check it. I didnt unlock my bootload so thanks for that .. but why was it possible to install a custom kitkat rom ?
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Some custom roms use stock kernel. Stock kernel works with locked bootloader. If you want to run a CM based rom, you will need to unlock the bootloader, but make sure you make a backup of your TA partition first.
Unlocking the bootloader disables some of the Sony software and camera features.
These roms will work with a locked bootloader, but just flash the rom, don't flash anything - kernel/recovery after
[ROM][Custom][Privacy Guard][Leds][UB LB] D5503_14.4.A.0.108
[ROM][Z1C][.157][LB/UB]DstrikerZ1 Kai ROM 4.7
[Z1 series][LB/UB][Advanced]RockZ1k_V-2.1
[Z1C-D5503]KitSlim_AMG [Evo 9]
Didgesteve said:
Some custom roms use stock kernel. Stock kernel works with locked bootloader. If you want to run a CM based rom, you will need to unlock the bootloader, but make sure you make a backup of your TA partition first.
Unlocking the bootloader disables some of the Sony software and camera features.
These roms will work with a locked bootloader, but just flash the rom, don't flash anything - kernel/recovery after
[ROM][Custom][Privacy Guard][Leds][UB LB] D5503_14.4.A.0.108
[ROM][Z1C][.157][LB/UB]DstrikerZ1 Kai ROM 4.7
[Z1 series][LB/UB][Advanced]RockZ1k_V-2.1
[Z1C-D5503]KitSlim_AMG [Evo 9]
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thank you very much for this great answer / info .. I already checked the unlock bootloader thread and will proceed this evening with backing up everything I will be able to reinstall a stock rom with camere features etc if I am correct.
thanks again !
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(never had this with for example samsung devices )
Each device is different which is why you need to read instructions first.