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Besides the C&P and faster apps, there is virtually no other changes with NoDo...
i have no idea what MS are talking about regarding bluetooth, i see no difference before and now, still crappy sound. The same with camera settings (better stability switching from photo to video???).
I guess the most important thing is the stability of the system right now.
Ah well, time to wait for mango

Market works much better now.

So you haven't actually launched a game, or an app at all yet? Not gone into the Marketplace yet? Marketplace used to be a nightmare, and you needed third party search apps to actually look around...now it is ... SO SMOOTH :'')
And apps launch noticeably faster, and app switching (with back button) as well as apps running after screen lock/unlock are much quicker to load.
There are definitely other unnoticed bug fixes as well. Also, WiFi stores more profiles (still won't allow manual network config though), and some changes to About page in settings...
Overall it is a minor update.

yes i mentioned besides the stability and faster apps update, the bluetooth and camera updates were not significant (since MS stated that on their update page so i was expecting at least a little bit of improvement from there.
I was really hoping to start using my bluetooth headset with my Mozart... guess ill have to wait longer then.

toothfish said:
I was really hoping to start using my bluetooth headset with my Mozart... guess ill have to wait longer then.
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What's the problem with your bluetooth headset?
I'm using mine since November without issues, no use for me to improve anything with NoDo.

Now that M$ have put Cut/copy and paste into WP7 can anyone please check and see if you can move calendar entries around like we used to be able to do in Windows Mbile?
I just want to be able to (both) copy or cut and paste a calendar entry to another day. Not the text within an entry, but the whole entry. In my work I usually need to go to a customer's house two or three times. I need to be able to cut or copy an entry and move it. I'm currently stuck on WM6.5 because of this.

mister gun said:
Now that M$ have put Cut/copy and paste into WP7 can anyone please check and see if you can move calendar entries around like we used to be able to do in Windows Mbile?
I just want to be able to (both) copy or cut and paste a calendar entry to another day. Not the text within an entry, but the whole entry. In my work I usually need to go to a customer's house two or three times. I need to be able to cut or copy an entry and move it. I'm currently stuck on WM6.5 because of this.
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in short no. Its not exactly a priority feature. Wouldn't be shocked if it never made it.

Far out...thanks. That screws me over in a big way. I literally have no alternative other than carrying a laptop around and moving calendar entries around in Outlook.
Removing this (standard WM feature) makes no sense to me.

mister gun said:
Far out...thanks. That screws me over in a big way. I literally have no alternative other than carrying a laptop around and moving calendar entries around in Outlook.
Removing this (standard WM feature) makes no sense to me.
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It was never a matter of removal, WP7 was built from the ground up as an independent OS. Windows Mobile had a ton of functions that WP7 doesn't because for the most part they were completely unnecessary and just bogged down an already fairly laggy OS. I mean honestly, how many times a day do you have to rearrange a number of calendar appointments? I can't see how it could be enough to lug around a laptop everywhere you go...

z33dev33l said:
in short no. Its not exactly a priority feature. Wouldn't be shocked if it never made it.
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Perhaps not a priority feature as such, but the thing is - had they implemented CnP correctly we would have been able to copy/cut images, photos, calendar entries et all instead of just plain text.
OS support is already there, what is missing is high-level support in their first-party "apps" and APIs.
They [Microsoft] said that CnP was always on the roadmap for WP7 but pulled from RTM as it wasn't polished enough. IMO what they did was simply to bundle their existing CnP code with some bugfixes and performance tweaks in order to deliver an update in January (which was subsequentially moved to late March). I would be very surprised if there isn't a more polished implementation in WP7.5.
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WP7 was built from the ground up as an independent OS
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This is where the PR and marketing people lied to you. WP7 is built on the same old Windows CE as WM6.5 (more or less). The OS has been around for a decade in one form or another. WP7 is basically a new GUI.
I would not be surprised to see a convergance of Windows CE and Windows 8 in the future - once Windows proper can run on Arm I see no reason to keep on top of two different codebases. WP8 will, IMO, be running with Windows 8 under the hood.

emigrating said:
Perhaps not a priority feature as such, but the thing is - had they implemented CnP correctly we would have been able to copy/cut images, photos, calendar entries et all instead of just plain text.
OS support is already there, what is missing is high-level support in their first-party "apps" and APIs.
They [Microsoft] said that CnP was always on the roadmap for WP7 but pulled from RTM as it wasn't polished enough. IMO what they did was simply to bundle their existing CnP code with some bugfixes and performance tweaks in order to deliver an update in January (which was subsequentially moved to late March). I would be very surprised if there isn't a more polished implementation in WP7.5.
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how do you know its there in the OS??? This is not an upgrade from 6.5, its a whole new OS.
Do any other OS's offer this feature?

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how do you know its there in the OS??? This is not an upgrade from 6.5, its a whole new OS.
Do any other OS's offer this feature?
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Read my edited post
But in short, I know OS support is there because I can copy pretty much any object into the buffer using native code.

skycamefalling said:
What's the problem with your bluetooth headset?
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The problems with bluetooth headsets;
1. Random dropouts when listening to music
2. Occasionally the phone drops the connection to the headset entirely and you have to force a disconnect / reconnect manually
3. Headset button longpress does not start voice control
4. Headset microphone cannot be used for voice control
5. Videos do not output their sound to the headset
6. Because of (5), games with video segments cannot be played using a BT headset unless you want to periodically blast people nearby when the videos play
There you go

Jim Coleman said:
The problems with bluetooth headsets;
1. Random dropouts when listening to music
2. Occasionally the phone drops the connection to the headset entirely and you have to force a disconnect / reconnect manually
3. Headset button longpress does not start voice control
4. Headset microphone cannot be used for voice control
5. Videos do not output their sound to the headset
6. Because of (5), games with video segments cannot be played using a BT headset unless you want to periodically blast people nearby when the videos play
There you go
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AMEN! This was the main thing I was hoping would be fixed in NODO. I hope a small incremental update will fix this before MANGO...

With my Blueant Q2 the sound has noticeably improved. I've never had any issues with the headset as I always carry my phone in my right pocket, and wear my headset on my right ear... Just out of habit, I'm right handed. However, if I were laying down with the phone on my left, at times I would hear static. That appears to be gone in the 4 or so hours I've been using it now. Other issues with the headset are the headsets issue, I assume Blueant will improve it with their much needed firmware update...
Jim Coleman said:
The problems with bluetooth headsets;
1. Random dropouts when listening to music
2. Occasionally the phone drops the connection to the headset entirely and you have to force a disconnect / reconnect manually
3. Headset button longpress does not start voice control
4. Headset microphone cannot be used for voice control
5. Videos do not output their sound to the headset
6. Because of (5), games with video segments cannot be played using a BT headset unless you want to periodically blast people nearby when the videos play
There you go
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1. Never happened to me.
2. ^
3 & 4. I can use the provided features just fine, the problems you are implying aren't bluetooth problems, but search function limitations...
5 & 6. Haven't tried.
I also think C&P in integrated so much more nicely than I would have expected. For instance, if you go into a contact's information, and hold down on their phone number, the option to copy it pops up. That is a feature I personally never saw demoed and I am very happy it has been included, it definitely makes up for the lack of an ability to paste contact cards. The whole implementation is also much smoother than I expected, and also looks much 'prettier' in person than it did in videos.
The apps are smoother, not only in their load times, but also in their pivot controls. I kept hearing this had been altered in this update, and a few apps have confirmed this for me, with the exception of the horribly laggy Board Express Pro. The games I play the most to kill time (Spades, Hearts, etc) load much, much quicker. The OS is definitely smoother, and it's a big plus on the HTC devices that they unexcusably decided to use SD cards on.
I don't really need to speak about the market, as most people have beaten it to death already, but it's much smoother. No longer opening an entry and waiting a day for it to load the information. Also, when downloading an app, the whole process is faster and smoother, aside from the download which is connection dependent obviously. Going through the app list, and pages is a pleasure now, no longer a hassle, though I never really experienced the crash that others had so often. The section specific search is also a huge plus, no more music entries when I'm looking for apps, love that inclusion.
Settings have also been adjusted, but most noticeably, especially probably more for us on this forum who understand security is the inclusion of the MAC address in the about screen. I had to jump through hoops to set up my phone on my home network just because this wasn't listed. Also, it appears my network connection is more stable now. At times in the past, when I would wake the phone from sleep, I would have to wait a good 2 minutes for it to reconnect to a network, now it's almost instant, every time so far.
Camera appears to load slighty faster, and at least for me, it has also started focused already, rather than having to focus. It also seems to be smoother, transitioning through the settings and such. I, for one, am glad the settings don't save, and agree this is a 'feature' - those of you who complain about the video settings not being saved (HD settings) have to understand how much more space that consumes, and the average user would have no idea. With the exclusion of swappable storage, I think that's a BIG plus... Though, they should have some out of norm way to force it, just to make users happy.
Sorry for the long post, just wanted to be specific. I'm sure I'll find more goodies as I play with the phone more, and I'll try to post them as I go along. I'm very pleased with this update, especially considering how 'minor' it is.

FiyaFleye said:
3 & 4. I can use the provided features just fine, the problems you are implying aren't bluetooth problems, but search function limitations...
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I too can use the voice control fine, with a long press of the WINDOWS button and not havin a bluetooth headset connected.
But with a bluetooth headset connected, the longpress of the headset doesn't start voice control as you would expect. However you can longpress the WINDOWS button still, and though that starts the voice control software, because it's trying to use the microphone in the bluetooth headset, and that doesn't seem to work, you cannot issue any voice commands. It wouldn't be so bad if it didn't disable the microphone in the phone itself.
Basically, if you use a bluetooth headset, you cannot use voice commands, but if you disconnect your headset, you can.
This is not a "Search function limitation", I'm not talking about search, I'm talking about voice commands.
Cheers

amtrakcn said:
Market works much better now.
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I do not see any difference.

arturobandini said:
I do not see any difference.
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Market hasn't crashed for me yet... thats a huge difference

mister gun said:
Now that M$ have put Cut/copy and paste into WP7 can anyone please check and see if you can move calendar entries around like we used to be able to do in Windows Mbile?
I just want to be able to (both) copy or cut and paste a calendar entry to another day. Not the text within an entry, but the whole entry. In my work I usually need to go to a customer's house two or three times. I need to be able to cut or copy an entry and move it. I'm currently stuck on WM6.5 because of this.
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Actually, you can open the entry and edit it, changing the hour or/and day of event. Then it automatically moves to correct date.

For Nodo
Not having Marketplace freeze on me every other time I browse on it (requiring a reboot) is NIGHT and DAY!
Much, much faster....
Just a heads up, I did a hard reset after NoDo forced-update, b/c I had lost 3rd Party Live Tile functionality, and I believe that it runs even smoother after the clean-up. Plus, as soon as I synced w/ Zune, it started downloading all the apps I had on it previously...didn't realize that little bonus.

[Q]Problems with WiFi and screen off?

Does anyone else have issues with the WiFi connection while the screen is turned off? I noticed that not a single one of my music streaming / radio apps work when the screen isn't on. It works for maybe a minute before all sound just stops. Starts just fine again once I power up the screen.
Has there been any changes done to the handling of these matters in ICS perhaps?
Pretty annoying not being able to stream music over WiFi as I think I'll hit my 5GB limit on data pretty fast if I can't use the WiFi at work for this.
So has anyone else noticed these issues?

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Does anyone else have issues with the WiFi connection while the screen is turned off? I noticed that not a single one of my music streaming / radio apps work when the screen isn't on. It works for maybe a minute before all sound just stops. Starts just fine again once I power up the screen.
Has there been any changes done to the handling of these matters in ICS perhaps?
Pretty annoying not being able to stream music over WiFi as I think I'll hit my 5GB limit on data pretty fast if I can't use the WiFi at work for this.
So has anyone else noticed these issues?
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Yeah same here. I remember this being an issue with Android 2.1 for my Desire but was fixed in custom roms. Might be the same situation here again.

I remember this being an issue with my Nexus One, don't remember if it was fixed in 2.2 or 2.3. I remember testing file transfer using SwiFTP, with the bug the file transfer would go down to double digits (kB/sec), with the bug fix it would be a few hundred kB/sec, with the screen on it would hit mB/sec or so (in any Android version).
I believe this is the official issue:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9781
With my Nexus S I'm not experiencing this bug. Sscreen on still gives me a major wifi speed boost, but screen off I get a few hundred kB/sec, which should be more than enough for any streaming app. KiloBYTES btw, not bits. I'm surprised ICS and/or Galaxy Nexus brought this problem back. Or it could be something else entirely.
Are you connected via 2.4GHz or 5GHz wifi? I would think the new 5GHz radio in the GN probably has more aggressive power saving features. Try switching to 802.11b/g (instead of 802.11n, in any frequency), see if it helps.

Have you changed your WIFI sleep policy?
On my Froyo phone, if you hit menu while in the WIFI settings (I know there is no menu in ICS) you get an option to go into advanced settings where you have the option to choose your WiFi sleep policy (When screen turns off, never when plugged in, never).
There should be a way to access that advanced settings area somewhere.. My phone is a couple hundred miles away right now and I won't see it for another week so I can't be of much further help right now. However, there "was" a setting in previous versions.

best info at the time last year was here for the N1
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=01a47ff5b0a92d52&hl=en
7xx replies there to read, but really good info. somewhere in there, maybe around#600 the info gets good, can't remember. But shortly around this time the problem was gone/fixed.
there was a guy with an app i think it was wifi fixer, i could be wrong. that worked sometimes, but battery drain was bad. Whatever google, or CM did fixed the low power save mode issue. I'm thinking it was something at the kernel level?
edit, on second thought, there's no good reason to read all that. You won't get a fix out of it anyway. It was updated away in the end, something related to MAC addresses and build numbers and frf50 or some such.
BUT this seems like the same kind of thing going on in the power save mode.

Have you checked your advanced settings?
Wi-Fi>>(settings [bottom right])>>Advanced>>Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep...
Mine was set to always by default, so I suspect that the issue lies else where...

Neville.Holland said:
Have you checked your advanced settings?
Wi-Fi>>(settings [bottom right])>>Advanced>>Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep...
Mine was set to always by default, so I suspect that the issue lies else where...
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Same here. Mine was set to always by default but still getting this issue.
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I would suggest that this issue is related to the individual applications you are using, rather than anything to do with Android.
I am able to stream music from Google Music via WiFi just fine when the screen is off, and I am also able to talk to someone on Skype via WiFi just fine when the screen is off.

oscillik said:
I would suggest that this issue is related to the individual applications you are using, rather than anything to do with Android.
I am able to stream music from Google Music via WiFi just fine when the screen is off, and I am also able to talk to someone on Skype via WiFi just fine when the screen is off.
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Thanks for posting that; I was getting pretty worried and disappointed after reading this thread. I had to deal with this when I first got my Nexus One, until Google released the 2.2.1 update with a new Broadcom driver which finally fixed the issue. No streaming, no pushes, just nothing at all from wifi when the phone went to sleep. All traffic to/from the phone would just stop. It was maddening.
The Galaxy Nexus comes to Canada a week from today, and this would've been a show-stopper for me. At least it's working for you, so my day isn't ruined quite yet

Has this issue ever been nailed down? I've seen considerable discussion on it going back years. I've seen considerable speculation regarding WIFI mode and Governor. I've seem many of the bug reports marked closed.
Yet I have a GN on v4.0.4 and the moment the screen goes off - either because you turn it off or it just times out - the WIFI goes to h*ll. I've run ping and network trace from both sides and there is no doubt the WIFI stays connected, however latency goes way up and packets are lost... and with TCP connections it gets congested with retransmits. I've run with the governor set to "Performance" and there is no difference.
So, is there any consensus on what is causing this problem with current stock hardware/software?

I read that it's something that's been coded in for a while. Try using this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ratcash.wifiperf
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Ok, to answer my own question, this is still related to the PSP issue from years ago:
code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9781
code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=15549
Bottom line is that some hardware - like GN - has an additional level of PSP on WIFI. The issue was resolved by inclusion of an additional lock mode - WIFI_MODE_FULL_HIGH_PERF - some time ago. However, its up to an application to request the new lock state if it thinks it needs it. Many don't.
So, its probably not a bad idea to contact developers of the various applications and recommend they look into the new lock level in the later APIs.
Also, the "WIFI High Performance Widget" can be used to manually hold a WIFI_MODE_FULL_HIGH_PERF lock on the WIFI if you're dealing with an application that isn't doing it its self. Beware of the other "WIFI fixes" out there, none of the ones I tested were acquiring the correct lock.
Also, from an adb shell you can use "dumpsys wifi" to see who is holding what lock, for example:
Code:
Locks acquired: 5 full, 5 full high perf, 5 scan
Locks released: 4 full, 4 full high perf, 5 scan
Locks held:
WifiLock{PANDORA type=1 [email protected]}
WifiLock{HighPerformance type=3 [email protected]}
Here you can see Pandora is only holding type=1 (WIFI_MODE_FULL) and HighPerformance is holding type=3 (WIFI_MODE_FULL_HIGH_PERF). Dumping the WIFI state takes the guess work out of it.

Tried that widget, having absolutely no luck with 'in tune' and 'winamp' for radio with the galaxy nexus verizon...
as soon as the device sleeps, wifi goes to hell and buffer drops in and out every 2 seconds. Completely unusable, any recent fixes? this is totally making me think I just bought a $400 brick since this feature was very important for me.

What may be confusing about that widget is that it is a "widget". You have to locate it under "widgets" and then put it on the surface and then click it to enable it... it should be blue when on, and black when its not.

tlum said:
What may be confusing about that widget is that it is a "widget". You have to locate it under "widgets" and then put it on the surface and then click it to enable it... it should be blue when on, and black when its not.
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I have been trying to put the 'widget' itself (2x2 square) on the home screen but even if i hold and drag it to where I want it, it never actually appears on the screen. And of course i'm still getting crazy ping times...Does anyone else have this working on a GN (verizon - not that it should make a difference)?
I have found a few workarounds to this issue, none are great and frustrate me greatly.
1. Root and use the franco kernel. Seems people with that have no issues - since you can set? the wifi to full performance.
2. Use this wifi performance widget
3. Use an app that has properly set its own wifi settings. - Going through all the radio apps on the google market, i am finding only one app that seems to be doing this right: DI Radio - some kind of dance/techno/etc - confirmed it with ping times, they remain low on sleep.
Not one other radio app seems to have set 'proper' settings - which shows that something needs to be addressed in the os...I was having good luck with the yahoo music app, but depended on the stream (maybe some buffer more :dunno - the ping results are garbage.
EDIT: I tried installing high performance wifi again, and finally got the widget to one of the homescreens! Let me break it down for anyone else who comes across this. After install, the small 1x1 blue app box is put on your desktop and the black screen comes up with the wireless networks and a checkbox. I then went to apps->widgets and tried putting the 2x2 widget on the home screen again, and like always it clicks on like its there (and when you click home and its never there). However, this time I hit BACK instead of home after dropping the widget and it took me back to the black screen with the checkbox, then i hit home and voila its sitting there. You can click on it like you mentioned! Confirmed with ping for tune in...pings remain low.
If this continues to work, it may be a godsend. It is annoying having to have this, but far far better than not.

I had that problem also especially when i tried to download big files when the screen turn off the download speed became extremely slow, this widget solve this, i think to that moment its the easiest solution tap it when you need it tap it again when you done.
By the way i had this problems with franko kernel also and again to my opinion it is the good solution for now, until the apps developers update their apps.
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If you download the SDK - you only need Android SDK Platform-tools - to a PC and use the adb shell it is easy to dump the WiFi lock state with dumpsys wifi and see exactly which app(s) are holding what locks. Completely takes all of the guessing out of who is doing what when. Judging the behavior can be subjective because there are other reasons that the WiFi can break up which can be very frustrating.
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Erlang2012 said:
I had that problem also especially when i tried to download big files when the screen turn off the download speed became extremely slow, this widget solve this, i think to that moment its the easiest solution tap it when you need it tap it again when you done.
By the way i had this problems with franko kernel also and again to my opinion it is the good solution for now, until the apps developers update their apps.
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The app does work well, however I have been running into some issues as I continue to use it. It randomly decides to turn off the forced max wifi (even though its still blue and looks like its operating) or perhaps the phone is forcing the wifi issue again. It seems to happen when you are downloading, playing with some other apps? You only notice it when you sleep it and the streaming radio immediately starts having issues.
Solution is to flip back to the widget turn it off and turn it on again. It works, but is another annoyance.
I haven't yet ascertained exactly what causes it to switch off yet.
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If you download the SDK - you only need Android SDK Platform-tools - to a PC and use the adb shell it is easy to dump the WiFi lock state with dumpsys wifi and see exactly which app(s) are holding what locks. Completely takes all of the guessing out of who is doing what when. Judging the behavior can be subjective because there are other reasons that the WiFi can break up which can be very frustrating.
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I will look into this, thank you.
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I used the adb shell (learned how to install all these dev tools and how to use it first ) and here is some updated info:
Tunein = type=1
Pandora = type=1
Audioaddict service (Digitally imported app I posted above previously) = type=3
google music = type=3
High performance app = type=3 (havent figured out why this likes to stop randomly)
I will update with more app info, hopefully others can also email the developers and see that it gets fixed, so we no longer have to use damn workarounds...

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... It randomly decides to turn off the forced max wifi (even though its still blue and looks like its operating)...
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Yes, it definitely has an issue holding its lock, and it definitely seems related to another application taking over and also when it switches to cell and back, I can confirm that. It may be related to the OS since the widget thinks it still on when clearly the lock as been released, so it may be that the OS released the lock and the widget has no idea. I haven't taken the time to look into the details yet, and this is something we should make the developer aware of.

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Yes, it definitely has an issue holding its lock, and it definitely seems related to another application taking over and also when it switches to cell and back, I can confirm that. It may be related to the OS since the widget thinks it still on when clearly the lock as been released, so it may be that the OS released the lock and the widget has no idea. I haven't taken the time to look into the details yet, and this is something we should make the developer aware of.
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Yup, from what I can see it loses lock:
1. when cell switching
2. manually killing/starting wifi
3. when ANY application is downloaded/removed (ie. changes in permissions)
4. when playing with dolphin, other apps for more than a few minutes, it will kill it even though the blue stays lit. I think its as you mentioned, during general use of the phone, at some point some permissions are changed and hifi performance is tossed off its lock.
If you only are streaming music and re enter the phone to check a gmail alert or two...it seems to be fine. otherwise you need to hit the lock widget one more time before sending it to sleep with pandora/tune in playing.

vzn pixel xl rooted - google maps gps signal lost

hi all
recently been having a prob i cant fix
1) connect my phone to car bluetooth
2) turn on google maps and set up navi using my phone gps
3) turn on youtube (ie google maps is now running in background)
4) turn off screen
after abt 5 mins, google maps will lose gps signal
any thoughts on how to solve this prob?
much thx in advance

peterlee928 said:
hi all
recently been having a prob i cant fix
1) connect my phone to car bluetooth
2) turn on google maps and set up navi using my phone gps
3) turn on youtube (ie google maps is now running in background)
4) turn off screen
after abt 5 mins, google maps will lose gps signal
any thoughts on how to solve this prob?
much thx in advance
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Uuhh... Don't use youtube when driving in your car?

peterlee928 said:
hi all
recently been having a prob i cant fix
1) connect my phone to car bluetooth
2) turn on google maps and set up navi using my phone gps
3) turn on youtube (ie google maps is now running in background)
4) turn off screen
after abt 5 mins, google maps will lose gps signal
any thoughts on how to solve this prob?
much thx in advance
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How about you do some research yourself instead of having us do the legwork for you.
There are too many variables with GPS, most likely it's user error or just a lack of signal.
Flash factory images and stop driving while using YouTube. You're a danger to everyone on the road, and it's not to be taken lightly. Someone could die because your negligence.
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I use YouTube playlist for audio in my car all the time, literally every day. Yes, fiddling through songs while driving is a danger to him and everyone else, but who said that's what he was doing? Don't be so quick to assume the worst and think he's doing all this while driving, it's not hard to run this setup before leaving the house/work.
Anyways try calibrating your GPS in the Google maps app, and placing your phone somewhere closer to a window (anywhere else really, experiment with location.). For example, I don't get crap for GPS signal when my pixel is sitting near or in my center console, but if I move it to my passenger seat or put it on my magic mount I never loose signal.
Also try purchasing YouTube red or premium or whatever it's called. That way you can play your music, then return to the maps app, maybe keeping maps as a foreground app will help your problem, but who knows.

Man... You guys are harsh. I have gps issues, but different from what I can find online. Also, don't be so quick to blast him about driving with YouTube. Maybe he likes to listen to music from YouTube or maybe he has tesla auto pilot and likes to watch videos in rush hour traffic.

thx noidea and dinkoh... gonna leave this thread... clearly not worth trying to find an answ here based on the unconstructive prior responses (not yalls responses)

No idea if it is what's going on or not, but VZW has a long history of GPS issues on rooted devices, especially ones running custom firmware. As far as I know it has never been fixed, but not sure of that anymore.
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I'm going to bump the thread real quick because I started having this issue after tweaking my doze settings.
If you're using the "L speed" app turn all the doze settings under the battery section app off. If you used another app to enable any doze mods or disable doze motion detection then disable them all.

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No idea if it is what's going on or not, but VZW has a long history of GPS issues on rooted devices, especially ones running custom firmware. As far as I know it has never been fixed, but not sure of that anymore.
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Not in my experience

For what its worth, on my unlocked, rooted, and custom rom'd (purenexus) pixel xl, gps seems to be working just fine. Rather surprising since every previous device had problems. Unless the rom does it by default i haven't done any tweaks to any doze settings so cant rule that out on my end.
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"Unknown artist" on car bluetooth connection after Marshmallow update

Hi folks,
I frequently stream NPR / This American Life or similar apps in my car (2015 Toyota Highlander), via bluetooth to the car's audio. Until today, the name of whatever title I was streaming would show up on the car's screen. Basically metadata... name of the show, name of the episode, time... that sort of thing.
Today I updated my G3 (D851) from Lollipop (20g) to Marshmallow (30e). Immediately after finishing the update, any streamed content shows on the car screen (head unit) as "Unknown Artist" and similar blank entries instead of the name of whatever is streaming.
That's really annoying. How can I fix this? Again, it's definitely a Marshmallow thing. Never once did this on Lollipop.
TIA!

Frankenscript said:
Hi folks,
I frequently stream NPR / This American Life or similar apps in my car (2015 Toyota Highlander), via bluetooth to the car's audio. Until today, the name of whatever title I was streaming would show up on the car's screen. Basically metadata... name of the show, name of the episode, time... that sort of thing.
Today I updated my G3 (D851) from Lollipop (20g) to Marshmallow (30e). Immediately after finishing the update, any streamed content shows on the car screen (head unit) as "Unknown Artist" and similar blank entries instead of the name of whatever is streaming.
That's really annoying. How can I fix this? Again, it's definitely a Marshmallow thing. Never once did this on Lollipop.
TIA!
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what app are you using, I think the protocols are set by the app not the OS. I know some of my music players support A2DP and others don't. Try different apps, you can also try forgetting the pair and repairing, or checking the settings of the pair to make sure everything is enabled. I had a giltch once where when i paired my phone to my car it only had a basic connection but nothing else worked and i had to repair. If you are using stock roms then I doubt it's Rom related. Some other things you could try is powering down the phone pull battery and reboot, just to fully reset all hardware, or a hard reset of the rom just incase there was an issue during the update process. Just some thoughts.

The two apps I use are the NPR News app and the This American Life app. Been using them for years. They both fine yesterday morning, but immediately after the update to Marshmallow the car screen reports Unknown Artist etc. Forgetting the connection on both ends and re-pairing doesn't fix it. The ROM is the stock 30e Marshmallow ROM from LG.
I've done a battery pull; didn't help. I heard early Marshmallow builds in general had some bluetooth issues but figured they would be worked out by the time a second release was made for our phones.
I will check the pair settings... haven't actually done that yet. Maybe there's some new option in there that's off by default.
Thanks to all for any other thoughts.

So, for a test I deleted ALL Bluetooth profiles on both the car and the phone, then pulled the battery on the phone, turned off the car, restarted the car, and rebooted the phone. PRior to this I checked the profile settings; all the boxes were checked.
That done, I re-paired the phone to the car.
I then played something from the This American Life app. Blank info showed up on the car screen. Tried the NPR app, playing a story from there. Blank info. In a fit of pique I poked back and forth between the car's home screen and it's audio selection screen, and returning to the home screen lo and behold there was the info about what was playing! How strange.
I switched back to This American Life, and the info on the car screen did not change... it stayed as the info from the program I was playing before. Went into the car's audio settings and back out to home screen. Now the info refreshed.
My current hypothesis is that under Lollipop, the phone "pushes" the metadata to the car, and it picks it up instantly. Under Marshmallow, it seems the car has to pull the data, and the screen gymnastics I was doing accomplished this.
I will test the theory by installing the apps on my Lollipop tablet, and trying to play them on the car, and seeing what the results are.
Marc

Okay. I tested on my now-marshmallow phone and my lollipop tablet.
Anytime I play from an app like this American life which I used as my test platform from my lollipop tablet, it immediately displayed on the cars home screen the metadata for the show.
Anytime I used my marshmallow phone to do the same thing with the exact same version of the app the metadata did not show on the home screen no matter how long I waited, however if I went into the program details on the car by pushing the section on the screen where the details should be it would then display the details. If I back out to the home screen again the metadata remains visible there.
It's very clear because this change in how it works on my phone happened immediately after upgrading to marshmallow that this is a difference between how marshmallow and lollipop handle the data. It seems that under lollipop data is automatically pushed out to the car upon starting playback where as under marshmallow the car seems to have to refresh or pull the data from the phone.
Again, this works the same way for several apps... not just This American Life.

Android Auto Update - What do you think?

The day after I received my new Note 10 - I plugged my Note 10 Plus into my Kenword (head unit in my car) and before I could do anything with Android Auto, I got a message saying "Update" -
So a new Android Auto update installed and therre are many improvements I have found - I wondered what anyone else who uses Android Auto in the car stereo unit thought about it?
ONe of the biggest things I like is that I don't have to launch android auto and then choose IHeartRadio everytime I turn on the car like I used to. Now, Android Auto and IHeart Radio starts by default as soon as I plug in my phone and start driving. I think it is automatically launching the last program I used which makes it easier when you get in your car and plug in.
The UI has improved a lot too - offering a much improved layout - easier to access the different programs, easier to use.
The only disappointment is I still don't get Wireless connection to Android Auto like it works on Google Pixel devices. (I thought Android Auto was supposed to be wireless for all devices that are on android 9 and later, but I guess that hasn't happened yet. Hopefully that will change soemtime soon.
In any event, I use Android Auto whenever I am in my car. I love the iHeart Radio Ap and the tight integration with my phone, google maps and more and I really like the new update they launched.
What do you think of the new version of Android Auto ?

i like the old android auto better, it much easier to switch google map and waze.
on this new android auto, i have to keep scrolling until waze or google map, my car doesnt have touch screen.
i wish we can rearrange the icons.

The new update is WAY better in my opinion. Looks better and is more user friendly.
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The new update is WAY better in my opinion. Looks better and is more user friendly.
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I agree. before the update it took multiple steps for me to start listening to my Favorite stations thru I Heart Radio - after the update, the last station I listened to starts playing almost immediately after starting the car and plugging in my phone. Much Better for me....and personally, I really like the new UI

I just wish i could get a full screen map with out all the extra junk