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Oh damn, HTC Sync not compatible with Win Server 2003!

Believe it or not, this is the operating system that I use as my main system and have been doing so for years!
But alas HTC Sync is not compatible! Come back Microsoft AS haha.

LMAO Why the hell would you use Windows Server as a personal OS XP

Yeah I know! I originally installed Win 2k way back when, just as a test system and slowly I started installing everything on it and then upgraded to 2k3, most things that I use have been compatible up until now!

sh500 said:
Believe it or not, this is the operating system that I use as my main system and have been doing so for years!
But alas HTC Sync is not compatible! Come back Microsoft AS haha.
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Is it just that the installer won't run (ie says your OS is not compatible)?
If that's the case, you can fix that with Installshield. You just need to change the platform restrictions as many desktop apps will refuse to install on server OS. I used to run 2008 server as a 'desktop' in the days before Windows 7.

Ah, I remember someone talking about that a while back. Will have to give that a go and see how it goes.

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Is it just that the installer won't run (ie says your OS is not compatible)?
If that's the case, you can fix that with Installshield. You just need to change the platform restrictions as many desktop apps will refuse to install on server OS. I used to run 2008 server as a 'desktop' in the days before Windows 7.
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Just installed a trial version of Install Shield; any idea how I would go about actually changing these permissions??

I'd use Orca (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa370557(VS.85).aspx) from (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa370834(VS.85).aspx)
It might be possible to do using installshield too, but haven't used it.
You want to check the LaunchCondition table for something related to operating systems supported.

I'm guessing both of these programs would require an MSI of the application as opposed to an EXE, which is what I have.
EDIT; Just got it from the temporary folder. Will try again.
2nd EDIT; Removed the install conditions, but an another error is generated- something about a CA_Driver. Seems everything except server 2000 and 2003 are not supported - 2008 is though (!)

Hi, did you ever manage to install it? I'm stuck on the same error as th eprevious post.
Cheers,
Dale

How to use SDK to root the phone?

Hi all,
I have just switched from the HD2 to the MT3G Slide and want to root the phone.
I knew how to do all the stuff on the HD2 from reading but cannot find any information here. The sticky placed on the top isn't much help because I know you need to use the Android SDK tool but I do not know how to set that up. & when I try to use the command line I cannot type in it. Please can someone give me some help on how to do this so I can get started on rooting my phone.
Thanks for reading!

you claim you read the sticky but yet if you had you would have seen the link on the first page i believe that tells you to get sdk from [link] and then on that page there is a link that says setting up SDK on your [OS] computer. then just follow the steps in there(which is really more like download file and double click setup) after that you can open up a terminal/console/cmd and type in cd \path to sdk\tools
if you are on mac or linux(unlikely since you can't read or search) you would type in
cd /path/to/sdk/tools notice how the slash between directories(folders) is the other way around
then follow the directions in the root thread(incredibly difficult i know but you should still try to do this part on your own)

tubaking182 said:
you claim you read the sticky but yet if you had you would have seen the link on the first page i believe that tells you to get sdk from [link] and then on that page there is a link that says setting up SDK on your [OS] computer. then just follow the steps in there(which is really more like download file and double click setup) after that you can open up a terminal/console/cmd and type in cd \path to sdk\tools
if you are on mac or linux(unlikely since you can't read or search) you would type in
cd /path/to/sdk/tools notice how the slash between directories(folders) is the other way around
then follow the directions in the root thread(incredibly difficult i know but you should still try to do this part on your own)
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Okay I have downloaded all of the Android SDK already. I have read it but my issue is when I try to type in the command it will not let me type. I also read that Anroid SDK is for xp & vista only and that windows 7 was not listed, so it this my issue? The command line you speak of is the one with the SDK tools and not the acutal windows CMD line?
I have followed everything to the line but still cannot seem to get this to work.
and to be clear I did read and there is nothing on there that states you need to have SDK to root the MT3GS. It says to download the slide_root

what operating system are you doing this on? that would be more helpful so i could tell you how to set this up correctly

tubaking182 said:
what operating system are you doing this on? that would be more helpful so i could tell you how to set this up correctly
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windows 7. I have android SDK and I have downloaded the 2.1 Android pack.

if you are using windows 7 x64(very likely) then you cannot use that computer and you should try using ubuntu(same as using mac for 99% of the steps and there is a thread in q and a talking about this right now) or setting up a virtual machine and installing xp and using that to hack your phone. virtual machines are easy to setup and use if you can use virtualbox

tubaking182 said:
if you are using windows 7 x64(very likely) then you cannot use that computer and you should try using ubuntu(same as using mac for 99% of the steps and there is a thread in q and a talking about this right now) or setting up a virtual machine and installing xp and using that to hack your phone. virtual machines are easy to setup and use if you can use virtualbox
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download virtual box right now. will that come with xp installed on it or would I need to download that onto it?
thanks for all of your help.

you will need to get an xp install cd or iso to install xp on it. if you have any friends with xp install disks or you can find one online and use it as a trial(no key=no activation=30 day trial) then you can use it for a day and root with that.
disclaimer: i suggest totally legal versions of windows xp, any install disk you download or get illegally is your fault when the FBI/Bill Gates comes to the door

tubaking182 said:
you will need to get an xp install cd or iso to install xp on it. if you have any friends with xp install disks or you can find one online and use it as a trial(no key=no activation=30 day trial) then you can use it for a day and root with that.
disclaimer: i suggest totally legal versions of windows xp, any install disk you download or get illegally is your fault when the FBI/Bill Gates comes to the door
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Instead of suggesting that he commits a felony why don't you tell him to use Ubuntu in the virtual machine? It'll take a little longer but it's less likely he'll be fined.

i didn't say commit a felony, and if you are going to use ubuntu then you don't need a virtual box(dumbass) you can use a live cd. i have been told by microsoft on MANY occasions that if you have a friend with XP install disks then you may use those, as well as the fact that installing it for one day in a virtual box is not illegal if you are not using a cracked key/re-used key, you can choose not to use a key and it is a temporary install for yourself to use either until you get a key, or the 30 days is up. much like you can buy vista/7 and install a different version if you like, but you will have to uninstall it and reinstall using the version i bought a key for once the trial has expired. read up and do your homework before you jump down someone's throat, it makes you look like an ass when i have to come back in here and teach you what a computer is

I set up and rooted two phones with windows 7.. I installed the sdk and pdanet drivers and thats it..

using 64-bit? last i knew there was no 64-bit adb driver so i didn't even try with my win7 x64 machine, i used my vista x32 box to root my phone.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532719 this exact guide and links

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using 64-bit? last i knew there was no 64-bit adb driver so i didn't even try with my win7 x64 machine, i used my vista x32 box to root my phone.
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I'm using Windows 7 x64 Bit Ultimate Edition..
The Guide was written from using Windows Machine Yes, it works just fine

eugene373 said:
I'm using Windows 7 x64 Bit Ultimate Edition..
The Guide was written from using Windows Machine Yes, it works just fine
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Is there anyway that you could give me a little help on getting this to work. When ever I try to type in the command line when i pull up the SDK it doesn't do anything. and when I try to pull up abd it just pops up a CMD for a quick two seconds.

look at link I posted

turboyo said:
look at link I posted
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thanks. didn't see it. saw the last post was posted by eugene and scrolled down as fast as i could lol.
So the Command line is the CMD program through windows? I don't understand why someone wouldn't set me straight on that since I was saying the command line in SDK wasn't letting me type anything

Installing Drivers
Plug in your phone through USB and DO NOT MOUNT IT!!!!!
Your computer should see a new device and try to install Android 1.0 driver (If it doesnt, scroll down to the "Im not getting a notification of Android ADB when i plug in my USB" section)
Let it load
Once it cant find them select "Install drivers from my pc"
The drivers you need are in the Android SDK 1.5r2 folder (C:\android-sdk-windows\usb_driver)
Depending on your OS pick x86 or amd64
You ADB Android Device should now be installed! Good Job
When I do this part it doesn't find the ABD driver but it does not have anywhere to install drivers from my pc at all on my windows 7
edit: found where to go to add the usb drivers but when I select the folder all I get is "windows cannot find driver software on your pc"
edit 2: Found out what driver I needed, thanks for the guide source going to try to root this thing finally

tubaking182 said:
using 64-bit? last i knew there was no 64-bit adb driver so i didn't even try with my win7 x64 machine, i used my vista x32 box to root my phone.
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Lol seems to me another dumb ass MAC user with nothing more to than make fun of people for not buying a. Crappy MAC. Unless you edit video for a movie company. Don't buy mac. Steve Jobs is a jobber. Plus macs. Suck. Win 7 rocks. Hate vista. Stfu mactard....
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

Ps not everyone should have a rooted phone. If after about a million tries. Just quit. There are plenty of how toos in the forums. They work read slowly and then read slowly again.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

Starting custom executables in phone

One way to start custom executabled in windows phone 7 is following method:
1) create a exe file that runs in phone
2) create a zip file and put exe inside
3) upload zip file to some internetpage and create .html page for it with <a href.. link for it.
4) navigate to the page with phone IE.
5) when clicking the link the phone can open the zip file and display its contents (tap to open the file ...zip)
6) when clicking the .exe file the phone asks are you sure you want to run
(The program ...exe is from an unknown publisher. Running it could harm your phone. Do you want to continue?)
7)enjoy your homebrews

will this also work on a phone that isn't developer unlocked ?
if that is right than this is the ultimate way to jailbreak a wp7 phone

Never-mind

Nope, he isn't, and described above method works (I guess because of MS ZipView executable bug). But I can't get my apps running, probably because they are not compatible with CE 7.0 and WP7 .Net (I've tried CE 6.0 native code and .NET code).

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Nope, he isn't, and described above method works (I guess because of MS ZipView executable bug). But I can't get my apps running, probably because they are not compatible with CE 7.0 and WP7 .Net (I've tried CE 6.0 native code and .NET code).
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is your phone developer unlocked ?

Yes, unlocked.

sensboston said:
Yes, unlocked.
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**** bummer , do you have a web link to that test file of yours then I can try it my phone is locked

xttp://home.comcast.net/~sergsv/
There are two links to zip archives at the left top corner of the page. I can't run these files but MS zip archiver open these zips and asked to run

yes man this is working on a locked phone

now we need some code that works to test this
lets say an .exe that run the file explorer

yes. right now we don't know whether the apps are opened at all. Are the managed Apps in VS compiled into an exe? Maybe we could extract one from an xap for testing purposes...

Silverlight XAPs use XAMLs and DLLs, no EXEs involved I'm afraid.

Hmm yes you're right. Are there extracted executables from the leaked Mondrian ROM?

There are, but they are not GUI apps, they look mainly like command line executables provided by Qualcomm, and some of them look like they could mess up your phone if you don't know what you're doing.
There are some GUI apps, but they come disassembled. I've been trying to assemble them but haven't had much luck yet.

Neat. I shall put together a sample application to test this. (I have Visual Studio 2010 configured to pump out CE7 native executables.)

I think the executable run is blocked. They left typical MS (say - stupid) dialog box but, I believe, ignore the user input...
However the Word and Excel documents can be opened this way.

I tried a few things -- rebooting the phone, crashing the program with invalid pointers, and launching some known executables. Nothing. I even signed my executable with a valid certificate; It still claims unknown publisher.
Wonder if this is some left over dialog as mentioned by sensboston

WithinRafael said:
I tried a few things -- rebooting the phone, crashing the program with invalid pointers, and launching some known executables. Nothing. I even signed my executable with a valid certificate; It still claims unknown publisher.
Wonder if this is some left over dialog as mentioned by sensboston
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The dialog will be hidden by the shell. You need to add your cert into the phone, email it, resign your app and try it again.
It's possible it'll work.

this will only work with MSFT signed exe's.

walshieau said:
this will only work with MSFT signed exe's.
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I tried with both my signed executable (with Root CA cert installed) and a Microsoft executable. Neither show signs of execution.

windows rt rtm

MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.RT.8.1.WITH.OFFICE.2013.RT.RTM.WOA.ENGLISH.DVD-WZT
MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.RT.8.1.ADK.KIT.WOA.RTM-WZT
Thats all I want to say

windowsrtc said:
MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.RT.8.1.WITH.OFFICE.2013.RT.RTM.WOA.ENGLISH.DVD-WZT
MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.RT.8.1.ADK.KIT.WOA.RTM-WZT
Thats all I want to say
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Anyone tried it yet? Looks like a risky process.

windowsrtc said:
MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.RT.8.1.WITH.OFFICE.2013.RT.RTM.WOA.ENGLISH.DVD-WZT
MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.RT.8.1.ADK.KIT.WOA.RTM-WZT
Thats all I want to say
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Thanks. Unfortunately, what I gather from what I'm reading is that that image does not contain drivers. You need to manually add the drivers to the image before you install. If you don't, you'll brick your tablet, according to WZT. People may want wait a little bit until there are clear directions and a few people who can verify that they worked (i.e. that they installed 8.1 without any problems).
Additional note: It sounds like the driver package is only for the Surface RT, so users with other Windows RT tablets (ex. ASUS VivoTab RT) may brick their tablets if they try to use it. They'll have to wait until someone releases a driver package for their model (which WZT says might have to be taken from the Preview build).

Osprey00 said:
Even more unfortunately, while WZT has teased info about the driver package, they haven't actually leaked it yet.
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This part isn't actually true, for what it's worth- it's included with the main download.

jhoff80 said:
This part isn't actually true, for what it's worth- it's included with the main download.
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Oh, OK. I didn't catch that. They made it appear as though it was a separate download. Ah, you're right: there they are.

just run setup.exe
all drivers for surface are build in
BTW:I have rollback to 8.0 again

Osprey00 said:
...users with other Windows RT tablets (ex. ASUS VivoTab RT) may brick their tablets if they try to use it.
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It is very difficult to brick an RT device. You can always recover it if you can boot to USB, and you have a recovery image and familiar with windows command line tools (diskpart, dism and so on).
Unfortunatley I'm on a business trip and can't create an upgrade instruction for VivoTab users. But there is nothing difficult - as we already have all needed drivers on a recovery partition, and all you need - just insert them into WIM using the Wzor's instructions from his original post on ru-board.

Installed this tonight. Note that drivers are NOT included in the iso from Wzor.
Extract boot.wim and install.wim from Wzor's iso, inject Wzor's RTM drivers via dism, commit, put boot.wim and install.wim with drivers back into iso, image to USB drive. I installed from within RT using setup (keeping nothing).
You have to use the default key on installation. You need to find out your actual RT key before you do this otherwise you end up with a non-activated RT 8.1 and no key. Export DigitalProductId and DigitalProductId4 from HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion and obtain your key. Instructions on how to here.
Works great. In the short amount of time I've been testing everything works perfectly OK, including all my accessories. (discussion here).

mamaich said:
It is very difficult to brick an RT device. You can always recover it if you can boot to USB, and you have a recovery image and familiar with windows command line tools (diskpart, dism and so on).
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I figured as much, but not everyone may have the recovery image or the knowledge, and, for them, a dead device that they're unable to recover is as good as a brick. Regardless, I just wanted to pass along the same language that WZT used so that I'm not guilty of misrepresenting the risks or responsible if someone can't fix what he got himself into.
derausgewanderte said:
Installed this tonight. Note that drivers are NOT included in the iso from Wzor.
Extract boot.wim and install.wim from Wzor's iso, inject Wzor's RTM drivers via dism, commit, put boot.wim and install.wim with drivers back into iso, image to USB drive. I installed from within RT using setup (keeping nothing).
You have to use the default key on installation. You need to find out your actual RT key before you do this otherwise you end up with a non-activated RT 8.1 and no key. Export DigitalProductId and DigitalProductId4 from HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion and obtain your key. Instructions on how to here.
Works great. In the short amount of time I've been testing everything works perfectly OK, including all my accessories. (discussion here).
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Thanks for your instructions and verifying that it works. The original instructions don't mention writing down your current key first. While I likely would've done that anyways, it's re-assuring to see it in writing, just in case. I might give this a go tomorrow.

FYI, there's now an ISO with the Surface RT drivers baked in, so that users don't have to use DISM to add them manually. The release name is:
DRIVERS FOR SURFACE RT ONLY___MICROSOFT WINDOWS RT 8 1 WITH OFFICE 2013 RT RTM WOA ENGLISH DVD-WZT
Note that it's only for the Surface RT, not other RT tablets.
Also note that you need the installation key, and, also, before installation, you need to export and decrypt your retail 8.0 key. Information on that is available here

Osprey00 said:
Also note that you need the installation key, and, also, before installation, you need to export and decrypt your retail 8.0 key. Information on that is available here
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and here is the direct link to Osprey00's post with a way of getting the key if you only have your RT.

Good news!
I'll just wait till some skillful surface owner gets the jailbreak and then update!

huslterose said:
Good news!
I'll just wait till some skillful surface owner gets the jailbreak and then update!
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[EDIT: Never mind. I misunderstood.]
I don't follow. There's nothing to "jailbreak" and it can't get much easier than it is now (outside of simply waiting until Microsoft rolls out 8.1 via Automatic Updates). You just follow instructions to find out your 8.0 key, install the 8.1+drivers ISO (not the one in the OP; the one that I listed a few posts up) with a general installation key, then activate 8.1 with your 8.0 key.

Osprey00 said:
I don't follow. There's nothing to "jailbreak" and it can't get much easier than it is now (outside of simply waiting until Microsoft rolls out 8.1 via Automatic Updates). You just follow instructions to find out your 8.0 key, install the 8.1+drivers ISO (not the one in the OP; the one that I listed a few posts up) with a general installation key, then activate 8.1 with your 8.0 key.
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I think he is referring to the lack of jailbreak on 8.1 for unsigned desktop apps - a feature which should have been in the OS from the start, instead microsoft wasted time patching the exploit the jailbreak used and destroyed the usefulness of the tablet for some.
He was probably intending to say something along the lines of him not updating to 8.1 until after someone makes a new jailbreak for it.
If you can live without the jailbreak, thats fine. Windows store is a bit too limited in my opinion, but it will grow (still gutted they blocked access to both localhost for network connections and COM ports in windows apps though).

SixSixSevenSeven said:
I think he is referring to the lack of jailbreak on 8.1 for unsigned desktop apps - a feature which should have been in the OS from the start, instead microsoft wasted time patching the exploit the jailbreak used and destroyed the usefulness of the tablet for some.
He was probably intending to say something along the lines of him not updating to 8.1 until after someone makes a new jailbreak for it.
If you can live without the jailbreak, thats fine. Windows store is a bit too limited in my opinion, but it will grow (still gutted they blocked access to both localhost for network connections and COM ports in windows apps though).
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Ah! Gotcha. It slipped my mind that the jailbreak for unsigned apps not working in 8.1 is a valid reason for not upgrading, so I was thinking that he was waiting for something to make the upgrade, itself, even easier. Thanks for the clarification.

@Osprey00 - is there a direct link perhaps

aooga said:
Could someone please post instructions on how to decrypt the registry values? The link that was posted is down. Thanks.
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Sure. There are a few different ways to do it. In order of simplest to most complicated...
METHOD 1 - Can be done solely from Windows RT (any version):
1. Follow these instructions to create a batch file.
2. Run the batch file on the tablet to get your key.
3. Either write the key down or right-click anywhere in the window, select Mark, highlight the key, right-click again (which will copy the key to the clipboard), paste the key into a text file and then copy that text file to another computer or backup drive.
4. Optional, but recommended: Check that the key is valid by inputting it into a key checker, such as The Ultimate PID Checker. If it tells you that the key is invalid, then try one of the other two methods.
METHOD 2 - Requires regular, non-RT Windows (XP/Vista/7/8):
1. In RT, open the charms bar, click Search, enter "Regedit" and run Regedit.
2. Export HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion to a .reg file.
3. Copy that .reg file to your non-RT Windows.
4. On your non-RT Windows (all remaining steps will be done there), right-click the .reg file and choose Edit. Change "CurrentVersion" to "CurrentVersionRT". Re-save the file.
5. Double-click on the .reg file and import it.
6. Download and install WinTK.
7. Run WinTK, paste "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersionRT" (without quotes) into the field and press the Decrypt button.
*If, for some reason, WinTK won't run, you can try this: download and unzip Produkey, run Regedit, export your CurrentVersion key to a backup .reg file, change the key name in your RT .reg file from "CurrentVersionRT" back to "CurrentVersion", remove all values in your RT .reg file except for DigitalProductId and DigitalProductId4 (make sure that they're NOT the ones under the DefaultProductKey sub-branch), import that (thus overwriting your Windows key with your Windows RT key), run Produkey, write down the Product Key, then import the backup .reg file to restore your Windows key (important, obviously).
8. Write down the product key.
9. Optional, but recommended: Check that the key is valid by inputting it into a key checker, such as The Ultimate PID Checker. If it tells you that the key is invalid, then try one of the other two methods.
10. Optional: Open Regedit again and delete the CurrentVersionRT key, just to clean up.
METHOD 3 - Can be done solely from Windows RT, but only on 8.0 (won't work on 8.1 Preview or 8.1 RTM) and is more complicated than Method 1:
1. Download and unzip the RT jailbreak tool.
2. Run RunExploit.bat. Choose 'R' from the menu. Let it finish, then press any key when it asks you to.
3. Download and install Win86emu.
4. Download and unzip Produkey.
5. Open the charms bar, click Search, enter "Regedit" and run Regedit.
6. Export HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion to a .reg file.
7. Find the Win86emu tile (icon is "x86") on your Start screen, flick down on it to bring up the options bar and tap Open File Location... or, at the Desktop, you can browse to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\StartMenu\Programs\win86emu.
8. Double-tap the "x86 Registry Editor" shortcut.
9. In that registry editor, import the .reg file that you exported in step 4. This will import the settings into the special x86 registry that the emulator created when you installed it and which all x86 programs (including Produkey) will think is the real registry.
10. Double-tap the "Run x86 Program" shortcut.
11. Browse to and select the produkey.exe that you unzipped in step 2.
12. Find the Product Key listed for Windows in the window that appears and write it down. If nothing appears, click on Select Source and verify that it's searching the local computer (top-most radio button).
13. Optional, but recommended: Check that the key is valid by inputting it into a key checker, such as The Ultimate PID Checker. If it tells you that the key is invalid, then try one of the other two methods.
If one method doesn't seem to work for you, try one of the others.

Osprey00 said:
Sure. There are a few different ways to do it. I'll describe two...
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Hopefully, I didn't forget any steps from either of those methods.
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Thanks!. Now just waiting to download the iso. Its taking an age.
EDIT: mydigitallife was hacked...thats why the links are down.

aooga said:
Thanks!. Now just waiting to download the iso. Its taking an age.
EDIT: mydigitallife was hacked...thats why the links are down.
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thanks for the info. was about to search for reasons. hacked by MS?

derausgewanderte said:
thanks for the info. was about to search for reasons. hacked by MS?
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Yeah I was clueless why it wasn't working, so I just looked at their facebook page.
Would putting a link like this on XDA be considered warez? If not, can someone who has already downloaded the ISO with drivers upload it somewhere? There is no way I'm waiting till Oct. 16

[Q] Windows 8 sideload apps?

Hi,
I would like to ask about windows 8 apps
Is that possible to download and install apps other than the windows store?
Thanks for helping:highfive:

JackyJC said:
Hi,
I would like to ask about windows 8 apps
Is that possible to download and install apps other than the windows store?
Thanks for helping:highfive:
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If you are running Windows 8/8.1 RT, no.
If you are running Windows 8/8.1 Pro, yes.

mattman86 said:
If you are running Windows 8/8.1 RT, no.
If you are running Windows 8/8.1 Pro, yes.
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Hi,
Is it as easy as android like just tap on the app download and install?

JackyJC said:
Hi,
Is it as easy as android like just tap on the app download and install?
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No. It requires you to have a Microsoft developers license registered with that machine (free to do) and installation of apps is also done via powershell.
Contrary to the above, you can sideload on RT.
The only real question is why? There isnt a market in downloading non store apps yet.

I think @mattman86 was referring to desktop software, rather than "modern" apps. He's still wrong, since you can use the jailbreak on RT 8.0 and then use desktop programs easily (instruction set architecture permitting), but you are correct that you can sideload "modern" apps, including or RT and on 8.1, pretty easily if you want to.
Powershell (as Admin): Show-WindowsDeveloperLicenseRegistration (you can type "show-w" and then hit Tab and it will auto-complete).
Hit Enter and follow the instructions. You can use any Microsoft account, even a throw-away created for the purpose, to do the registration.
To install an app package (.APPX file), you can do it manually via Powershell but it's a *lot* easier to run the .PS1 script that should come with the .APPX. That script will take care of all the steps for you, in order, easily.

GoodDayToDie said:
I think @mattman86 was referring to desktop software, rather than "modern" apps. He's still wrong, since you can use the jailbreak on RT 8.0 and then use desktop programs easily (instruction set architecture permitting), but you are correct that you can sideload "modern" apps, including or RT and on 8.1, pretty easily if you want to.
Powershell (as Admin): Show-WindowsDeveloperLicenseRegistration (you can type "show-w" and then hit Tab and it will auto-complete).
Hit Enter and follow the instructions. You can use any Microsoft account, even a throw-away created for the purpose, to do the registration.
To install an app package (.APPX file), you can do it manually via Powershell but it's a *lot* easier to run the .PS1 script that should come with the .APPX. That script will take care of all the steps for you, in order, easily.
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Thank you so much for that info master!!! Do you know, where to get some "metro"-apps without WindowsStore?
Are there any open-source or freeware appx or can we only take self-developed ones?
Can we take those .appx files from our already downloaded apps from store?
If i remember correctly either
Code:
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\AppRepository
or
Code:
C:\Program Files\WindowsApps
Cheers
Blade

You can occasionally find homebrew apps here on XDA - the early versions of the Jailbreak tool for RT relied on one, for example - but I'm not aware of any large collection of them. If it's possible to re-construct .APPX files from the installed system (probably), it is something I have never attempted and have little interest in. Too much potential for piracy, too little reward.

GoodDayToDie said:
You can occasionally find homebrew apps here on XDA - the early versions of the Jailbreak tool for RT relied on one, for example - but I'm not aware of any large collection of them. If it's possible to re-construct .APPX files from the installed system (probably), it is something I have never attempted and have little interest in. Too much potential for piracy, too little reward.
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I just thought about freeware-appx from the store, but sadly you are right, this info could lead into the wrong direction...

The world would be *such* a nicer place if people could just be counted on to be ethical...