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ROMs or hacks that allow trickle charging past 90%?

So it's already been established that after the EVO charges fully to 100% it then stops receiving a charge and runs off the battery before charge cycling again. All the while displaying 100%.
Has any effort been put into changing the way this operates? Seems like it'd be nice to leave the phone on a charger and when you take it off, it would actually be at 100% and not at some arbitrary percentage between 90% and 100%.

It's better for the battery life.It's really good option if you ask me.
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You mean make it so that the battery's status bar shows a realistic value once it stops taking a charge, even though it's still plugged in, right? Not actually changing the way it takes a charge. I'd be interested in seeing that happen.

Is that why when you unplug it, the first 5% or so disappear within minutes?

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Is that why when you unplug it, the first 5% or so disappear within minutes?
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Yup. This is why when you charge overnight the battery plummets right after.
*Currently Mobile*

Don't leave it plugged it after it reaches 100%. Problem solved.

triggert said:
Don't leave it plugged it after it reaches 100%. Problem solved.
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Valid point. Lol

There are some people who don't want to wake up in the middle of the night to unplug their phone. Like me.

annoying, but just unplug your phone when you do wake and plug it back in after about 10 seconds. let it finish fully charging while you get ready.

it's better for the battery though, case closed. Lenovo has been doing somehting similar w/ their laptops for years. It never charges the battery past like 97%, and when it does reach the top it stops charging until it falls below like 92 then recharges. HTC needs to loook out for the battery they already have enough flak from all of us for the last few years w/ every touch device they have had. We want more life, and they are giving it to us, just wish they could figure something out like lenovo, let it go down to mayeb 94 then charge up again perhaps.

it really isn't true, mine dumps 10% or so off the charger regardless of if it has been on the charger all night or 2 seconds after it turns green.

So I've done the:
1 charge to green
2 unplug
3 turn off
4 charge while turned off.....to green again.
And here are my honest results.
Boom........phone has 20% left after 16.5 hrs of moderate use (calling time total 1 hrs talk total, surf /post 1 hour total, load up 5 apps from the market, listen to audio clips on the speaker phone for almost an hour straight, podcast this morning for 30 min...and other randomness)
And still have 20% left. Going since 6:30 a to 10:30 p...........approximately 16 hrs equals 80% so about 3.2 hrs left to use before dead.
THIS EQUALS APPROX 19.2 HOURS OF MODERATE USE BEFORE RECHARGE NEEDED.
eat it Apple 4G . You can't even reliablly make calls let alone last that long without charging. My 3g never lasted that long. You still need a wall Apple we are truly mobile. If I was on the road I could (don't need to just yet) swap out for another battery.
I'm loving xda for all their brains helping me get the most out of this phone. Thanks to all.
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The point here is that we shouldn't have to do the "charger circle jerk" to have 100% battery. I should be able to unplug it and have a full battery. Not 90%. I might need that 10% later on today, its accomplishing nothing sitting on my nightstand.
If the battery is toast after a year instead of a year and half, i don't care. I want a fully battery, not an almost full battery.

jasonziter said:
So I've done the:
1 charge to green
2 unplug
3 turn off
4 charge while turned off.....to green again.
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HTC advised a similar solution to the battery issue. I did this a few times and my battery lasted more than 15 hours with moderate use. Here's the post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990

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My phone used to do this, even after i followed all the little tips and tricks of playing hide and go seek with the charging cable and my phone.
Know how i solved it?
Bought one of those $10 Ebay 2 1500mAh TP2 Battery And Wall Charger bundles, now i dont use the OEM charger at all, the cable turned into a permanent USB cable on my comp and never sees the actual HTC charging unit it plugs into for AC power. I have 3 batteries and i rotate them in that little wall charger which actually charges them to 100%. Its also proven because if you take one of the batteries, put them in the phone and charge them until the green light comes on, supposedly to "100%" and then take the actual battery out and put it in the ebay wall charger, it will still charge for another 15-25 minutes. Charging it in the phone, as soon as i unplug, it almost instantly always drops to 90%... charging with the ebay wall charger, it will stay at 100% for a while before it falls off.
Below is the link to my thread which contains linkage, pics and info about the ebay bundle, others also claim the same issues and fixes in my thread. I mean for $10 bucks, does it really matter if it works for you or not? Its worth the shot and for me, it was a great investment.
Best of luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715739

I did this last night and I'm at 14 hrs and 57% left. If I have to charge like this to get great battery life that's fine. My iPhone 3gs would last half a day. So this is blowing it out of the water. And I can hold it with my left hand to talk.
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You can hold the 3gs with your left hand as well...

cpiddy said:
I did this last night and I'm at 14 hrs and 57% left. If I have to charge like this to get great battery life that's fine. My iPhone 3gs would last half a day. So this is blowing it out of the water. And I can hold it with my left hand to talk.
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Good stuff man, I finally just switched batteries after 21 hours.

How to do you charge your One X?

Just wondered how most people are charging there One X? Personally I always turn it off and allow it to charge until the light goes green. I've never charged it when it's still been turned on.

I've never switched off any of my android phone's whilst charging. What happens if you get a call? I also try to alternate between charging on my pc and the wall charger.

Maximus78 said:
I've never switched off any of my android phone's whilst charging. What happens if you get a call? I also try to alternate between charging on my pc and the wall charger.
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Yeah fair statement, I had thought about that. I wasn't sure if it was bad to say plug the phone in at 11pm until 7am (8 hours) charging whilst it being turned on? I assumed if it was going to be plugged in say for that long that you should turn it off.

I just plug it in - went to bed on 80% last night but fair enough I'd hardly used the phone all day (standby battery life is incredible)

EddyOS said:
I just plug it in - went to bed on 80% last night but fair enough I'd hardly used the phone all day (standby battery life is incredible)
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So you stuck it on charge just to boost that extra 20% yeah? How come you didn't just leave it until it was low?
Should of asked if people would partially charge it or if they always ensure its fully charged.. Can't amend the poll now though.

I was thinking about trying that - might do that tonight and see how it lasts...

I plug it in to a usb cable

i charge my hox every night on the wall charger while turned on. even if it has 80% left. i am to afraid that my battery level goes under 20% (i heard that falling under that level can damage batteries).

N3m3515 said:
i charge my hox every night on the wall charger while turned on. even if it has 80% left. i am to afraid that my battery level goes under 20% (i heard that falling under that level can damage batteries).
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Where did you hear that? Mines dropped to 14% before and I then turned it off and charged it and the battery still seems fine. Wasn't aware you could damage the battery if it got too low...

I killed my battery first 2 charges - never have in the past but thought I would this time

I have always charged with the phone on, all my phones since way back having an analogue Nokia mobile and never had any battery issues. Only time I have ever switched my phones off is if I was getting on a plane or the battery got really low and didn't want it to go completely flat.

Just plug it in whenever. Modern li-poly batteries doesn't have memory and charge cycle life is based on full charges.
Part charges actually increase life due to low % cycling

tsleng said:
Just plug it in whenever. Modern li-poly batteries doesn't have memory and charge cycle life is based on full charges.
Part charges actually increase life due to low % cycling
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Agreed.
One thing to note is that you should never let it completely drain the battery, the phone will switch itself off once the battery reaches critical level then it needs a charge. I'd recommend charging it when it reaches 5-15%.
Also I'd never leave it charging over night it interrupts the cycle, if I have to charge it over night I set an alarm to go of after a few hours and unplug it.

i have 3 or 4 charges from different makes-and only htc charges the quickest. the worst is usb cable and car charger. but due to usage i need to charge twice a day

Maximus78 said:
Also I'd never leave it charging over night it interrupts the cycle, if I have to charge it over night I set an alarm to go of after a few hours and unplug it.
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Dude...
I always charge overnight - purely for convenience really.
Can you explain the above to me? I'm not sure what you mean by it interupts the cycle?
How does it effect the battery ?
Thanks alot
Dean

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Just plug it in whenever. Modern li-poly batteries doesn't have memory and charge cycle life is based on full charges.
Part charges actually increase life due to low % cycling
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You are 100% right most modern phone battery’s don’t have memory any more so no need to worry about it, and no need to do full discharge and recharge cycles to maintain battery health, and if they do they normally tell you in warning labels or in instruction manuals, for example I recently bought a new shaver and it tells you to do a full discharge and then leave it on charge for at least 12 hours every 3 months to maintain battery life.

N3m3515 said:
i charge my hox every night on the wall charger while turned on. even if it has 80% left. i am to afraid that my battery level goes under 20% (i heard that falling under that level can damage batteries).
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batteries have safety features built in so don't worry. What for you looks like 0-1% left - what android is showing you, might be actually 10-20% as seen internally by the battery.
Also, I have completely discharged my phone once, I simply left it at 1% and waited until it shut off. Then I charged to 100%. From then on, I charge whenever I want, phone is always ON.

Ebay 2m cable (the HTC one's length is a joke).

I use a charging cable.
My friend sticks it next to his head and uses his brainwaves to charge it.
Both seem to work fine.
Im really sorry for this post. I could not resist.

You guys are ridiculous. Just plug the phone in and it charges.
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Are we not supposed to charge our phone overnight?

My battery wasn't holding a charge so I went to a T-Mobile store to get it replaced and they asked me if I leave it to charge overnight I go yeah so it has charge for the day and they told me not to because it destroys the charge. So xda community aka the experts let me know if this is true and if it is, how am I supposed to charge my phone?
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I've charged this phone almost every night since I got it (early June) and my battery is still doing outstanding. There are times when charging it over night the battery will set it self to draw battery so it can recharge and not cause harm I believe. There are many superstitious theories and others that "battery experts" say charging over night can be harmful. Overall I don't buy into too much. I always try to unplug as soon as it hits 100% though.
T-Mobile SGS III

I don't think its true either.. I've charged all my phones like that since I can remember and never had problems with battery, other than software related problems that drained battery, but fixable.. Did you check if maybe it was software related and not due to the battery?
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That's so stupid. With how limited these batteries are not being able to start the day at 100% is unacceptable.

I always leave it to charge overnight.

Just now I unplugged by mobile after overnight charging
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Its bs they are like bots so they are programmed to say these things. Basically to appear as they know the "answer" to your problem. So got work in the morning I'm not suppose to charge my phone overnight and leave with 5% battery in the morning, they know they charge their phone every night. When a rep ask me that same question once I said "No I leave to work with my Samsung flip phone because I can't charge my 500 phone overnight".. *sarcasm*.
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All nighter here too. No issues whatsoever. Mine Gets warm when charging the cools back down after fully charged.
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This use to be true on older phones. The galaxy S 3 and most new phones stop charging once they hit 100% it will only start charging again when it drops under 100.
And even before on older phones where it wasn't recommended I did it anyway. No harm done.

I've done this with all my phones, nothing ever happened to them
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Overcharging protection, while present, can fail.
If you guys want to have a full charge in the morning, try an outlet timer - or put it in airplane mode overnight (I do that, battery is down only 1-3% after ~8 hours). You could also turn off data + wifi - so phone calls are still there if you are really worried about getting an emergency call in the middle of the night, the call function is still there, but apps aren't syncing and wasting battery and sleep time doing so.
I'm just not comfortable with the fire risk of leaving it in overnight. Sure, it probably won't fail - but if it does ? Why take that chance when there are other solutions ? I just charge it at my desk before going to bed, unplug it when it reports full charge.
It's the same kind of risk as putting a 100W bulb in a 60W socket - sure, you might be fine for a while, you might never have problems - but you might also start a fire when components fail under the stress.

Pennycake said:
Overcharging protection, while present, can fail.
If you guys want to have a full charge in the morning, try an outlet timer - or put it in airplane mode overnight (I do that, battery is down only 1-3% after ~8 hours). You could also turn off data + wifi - so phone calls are still there if you are really worried about getting an emergency call in the middle of the night, the call function is still there, but apps aren't syncing and wasting battery and sleep time doing so.
I'm just not comfortable with the fire risk of leaving it in overnight. Sure, it probably won't fail - but if it does ? Why take that chance when there are other solutions ? I just charge it at my desk before going to bed, unplug it when it reports full charge.
It's the same kind of risk as putting a 100W bulb in a 60W socket - sure, you might be fine for a while, you might never have problems - but you might also start a fire when components fail under the stress.
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Is there some sort of smart outlet that can stop charging when it reached 100%? I guess in a way the same as the outlets that has a master outlet and able to turn off the rest when the master outlet is off?

I charge mine overnight
I usually let me charge overnight, it hasn't caused any problems for 6 months now.

It is true that your battery being at 100% charge (even if charging to the battery has stopped) is harder on your battery and overall capacity will lower at a faster rate than one stored at 60%. The thing is the difference is negligible over a year. It is technically best for your phone to be charged to 100% and then removed from charge so the battery can drain but we are talking about the difference of wether the half life of your battery is 3 or 4 years. overnight charging is not why your battery has failed.

Chuckatron said:
It is true that your battery being at 100% charge (even if charging to the battery has stopped) is harder on your battery and overall capacity will lower at a faster rate than one stored at 60%. The thing is the difference is negligible over a year. It is technically best for your phone to be charged to 100% and then removed from charge so the battery can drain but we are talking about the difference of wether the half life of your battery is 3 or 4 years. overnight charging is not why your battery has failed.
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Agreed it was probably a defective one he got. Even though the s3 is really awesome I'm not sure all if us will still have this phone 3 or 4 years from now. So go ahead and charge it don't worry.
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[Q] Charging Takes Forever???

Hello,
So I was at about 10% when I went to bed last night (around 11 PM). I plugged my phone into an outlet charger (the one that came with my old Nexus 4, not the one in the G3 box) and when I woke up (645 AM) the phone was only at 65% charged? I can't imagine that it would take over 7 hours to do a complete charge. Has anyone else experienced this? The only thing I can think of is that my old charger produces less output than the one in the box, but I haven't tested it out yet.
Lou

Try it again with the actual g3 charger so you can know for sure if it's a phone issue or a charger issue.

louballs said:
Hello,
So I was at about 10% when I went to bed last night (around 11 PM). I plugged my phone into an outlet charger (the one that came with my old Nexus 4, not the one in the G3 box) and when I woke up (645 AM) the phone was only at 65% charged? I can't imagine that it would take over 7 hours to do a complete charge. Has anyone else experienced this? The only thing I can think of is that my old charger produces less output than the one in the box, but I haven't tested it out yet.
Lou
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Over the past few weeks I have been testing all kinds of chargers and cables. I noticed that the G2 charger is the closest to G3 but not as good. The issue is the cable itself. Kopi 20awg with oem charger, g2 will work, charges at the same speed as the original one.

louballs said:
Hello,
So I was at about 10% when I went to bed last night (around 11 PM). I plugged my phone into an outlet charger (the one that came with my old Nexus 4, not the one in the G3 box) and when I woke up (645 AM) the phone was only at 65% charged? I can't imagine that it would take over 7 hours to do a complete charge. Has anyone else experienced this? The only thing I can think of is that my old charger produces less output than the one in the box, but I haven't tested it out yet.
Lou
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Did your phone stop charging in the middle of the night? That happened to mine on the first night when I used an old iPhone (1000mA) charger. It just quit somewhere in the 60% range. Switching to a higher powered charger (iPad - 2100mA) it charges very quickly. On my desktop at work, the USB3 port I have charges at an abysmally slow rate (prob 500mA or less, and in a lousy reception area so it's burning 100-200 of that just keeping the network alive).
The boxed charger, btw, is 1800mA.

Thanks for the responses. I will try the charger that came with the device overnight tonight and report back in case anyone else has similar issues.

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louballs said:
hello,
so i was at about 10% when i went to bed last night (around 11 pm). I plugged my phone into an outlet charger (the one that came with my old nexus 4, not the one in the g3 box) and when i woke up (645 am) the phone was only at 65% charged? I can't imagine that it would take over 7 hours to do a complete charge. Has anyone else experienced this? The only thing i can think of is that my old charger produces less output than the one in the box, but i haven't tested it out yet.
Lou
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time to get new battery

syon.piyush said:
time to get new battery
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The phone/battery are literally 2 days old. Can't imagine it's the battery already. I will do some more troubleshooting since is obviously not a common occurrence.

Strange
louballs said:
The phone/battery are literally 2 days old. Can't imagine it's the battery already. I will do some more troubleshooting since is obviously not a common occurrence.
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Strange
try wiping battery in cwm if helps,and install super charge as some custom build roms are buggy.

My Xperia ZL wouldn't charging from getting too hot in the middle of the night. I would wake up to a very low battery. Between the screen waking up, trying to find a signal, and covering it with my pillow it would get too hot. Haven't had the issue with the G3 yet but I have woken up to the screen on and that stupid battery fully charged message.

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My Xperia ZL wouldn't charging from getting too hot in the middle of the night. I would wake up to a very low battery. Between the screen waking up, trying to find a signal, and covering it with my pillow it would get too hot. Haven't had the issue with the G3 yet but I have woken up to the screen on and that stupid battery fully charged message.
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my scren doesnt stay on when battery is full. it will light up for a brief period of time and then turns off. the green led stays on.

The nexus 4 charger is probably rated at a much lower amperage 1.2A actually https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_4_Power_Adapter?id=nexus_4_charger&hl=en
However your cable will also play a big role in this. The rating on the cable will determine whether or not it will actually allow that much current to pass through it. The stock charger works great, it chargers in less than 2 hours from 0 to 100%. I only use my nexus 7 charger to charge my spare battery on its cradle which is no big deal because it doesn't need to be fast.

Mine takes about 2 hours and 20 min for 0 to 100%

That charger may also be sending dirtier power because it's older too. I'm amazed at how fast mine charges. I haven't timed it, but it has to charge over 35% in an hour if you start at around 20%. Hell, I have started wirelessly charging with a Powerbot (connected to official charger) at about 15% at night and woken up a few hours later and checked the time and the thing was at 100%.

RESOLVED
OK, this is resolved, seems like the issue was in fact the charger I was using. I used the one that came with the unit and it charged up no problem. At least that issue is solved in case anyone else runs into. Thanks everyone.

Wireless charging stops at 100% and wont restart

HI can anyone tell me if there is any way to resolve this. I think is has started since doing the upgrade to Android 10 earlier this week.
I normally put my phone onto the wireless charger before going to bed and I have noticed recently that when I grab it in the morning the battery percentage is sitting around the 90% mark. I initially thought the charger was not able to charge to 100% but on further examination I see that it indeed charged to 100% after I placed it on the charger and then the charging stopped and the phone ran on battery until I removed it in the morning.
I confirmed this this morning by replacing it on the charger and watching it charge (like watching paint dry ). The charger light was blue while charging, when the phone hit 100% the charger light turned to green but after about 30s it completely switched off and so too did the indication on the lock screen that a charger is connected. Removing and reseating the phone started charging again.
It definitely looks to be software related as I did not have this problem last week. I just wanted to ask if anyone here has noticed this and knows of any workaround?
For the record I am running fast wireless charging with the samsung wireless charger that came with my wifes S8, that charger works perfectly with my older Note8. I have also tried switching to normal wireless charging speed with no success.

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HI can anyone tell me if there is any way to resolve this. I think is has started since doing the upgrade to Android 10 earlier this week.
I normally put my phone onto the wireless charger before going to bed and I have noticed recently that when I grab it in the morning the battery percentage is sitting around the 90% mark. I initially thought the charger was not able to charge to 100% but on further examination I see that it indeed charged to 100% after I placed it on the charger and then the charging stopped and the phone ran on battery until I removed it in the morning.
I confirmed this this morning by replacing it on the charger and watching it charge (like watching paint dry ). The charger light was blue while charging, when the phone hit 100% the charger light turned to green but after about 30s it completely switched off and so too did the indication on the lock screen that a charger is connected. Removing and reseating the phone started charging again.
It definitely looks to be software related as I did not have this problem last week. I just wanted to ask if anyone here has noticed this and knows of any workaround?
For the record I am running fast wireless charging with the samsung wireless charger that came with my wifes S8, that charger works perfectly with my older Note8. I have also tried switching to normal wireless charging speed with no success.
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Unplug the charger from its power source and plug it in again, causing it to 'reboot'. Let us know the results. Note, there is an option to set the wireless charging to NOT be fast during certain hours of the day. I set mine so it charges slowly while I am sleeping - to put less stress on the battery. Your charger may be a little old as well if you got it with a note 8 or S8 - ?
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IMO this is a good feature to stop the wireless charger cooking your battery.
Maybe turn down your AOD brightness or something, to use 10% within a couple of hours of being idle is pretty high. Maybe turning off fast wireless charging would extend the charge time so it finishes nearer to when you wake up could help too.

Thanks for the feedback however it does sound like workarounds for an issue that should not be present (apart from rebooting the charger which I will try when I get home).
For me wireless charging should act just like wired charging in that when it reaches 100% the phone should essentially run off the charger now and not use battery at all. Every other phone with wireless charging that I have had worked that way, this is just plain stupid.
Willhemmens its not a couple hours, looking at the battery graph if I go to bed at 10pm and put the phone on the charger it pretty much hits 100% around 11:30 and then is at 90% at 7am, so it is 10% over 7 hours which is ok in my books, but reality is that during this time the phone has another source of power that it can and should use. It did before I applied the Android 10 update.

I have had this issue every now and again, and I found that rebooting it takes care of the issue.

An update. This morning I tried my wife's wireless charger and when the phone reaches 100% it continues to show the charge icon. Put my wife's note 8 into the wireless charger and it exhibited my problem.
So it looks like this is a problem with the wireless charger and not the phone.
Thanks for the answers guys I am of to try buy a new wireless charger
edit - New charger solved the problem.