Apps disappear when moved to system - Desire 820 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello, I'm trying to move mostly updated versions of system apps from data to system to free some space on data (can't install that hearthstone goddammit) so I tried to move stuff like new facebook and other updated system apps. Also stuff like keyboard or messenger. I tried using lucky patcher as well as moving it manually with root explorer, and I can move it just fine, but as soon as I reboot, folders of apps I moved get deleted. I'm on rooted Android 6.0.1 if it's of any help. Any ideas?

Did you adjusted the permission for the moved apps to -rw-r--r-- and place them in a folder where the folder name is the app name?

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Deleting System Apps

Rooted using Unrevoked. Have Root Explorer installed and Titanium. I know the system apps are in the folder: System/Apps When using Root Explorer I don't have the options. To uninstall the apps bit I can delete them. However, after deleting them the programs are still there. Same thing happens when I try to do it with Titanium. Is there something I'm overlooking?
System Apps do not get installed/uninstalled. Deleting them is all you need to to. However, since it appears you are still running the stock ROM you need to make sure you delete the corresponding odex file too.
I only had the stock ROM for about a day before I rooted and installed a different ROM (which was deodexed). BUT, I recall reading that both files need to be deleted.
I suggest that instead of deleting the files place them in a backup folder just in case you might need them later on. As mentioned before you must move the APK and its associated ODEX file if it has one. Sprint applications tend to be updated so uninstall the updates then move the Sprint applications using the aforementioned method.
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so i have to move the sprint apk files and odex files (if applicable) before I can delete them? I already tried deleting them w/o backing them up or changing their location but they keep coming back!
SantinoInc said:
so i have to move the sprint apk files and odex files (if applicable) before I can delete them? I already tried deleting them w/o backing them up or changing their location but they keep coming back!
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Are you mounting the apps folder with "rw" privileges before deleting?
Yes, I am. I have no clue what I'm doing wrong. I swear to god these ****ing apps come right back after I reboot the phone. I delete them with Titanium and/or Root Explorer and after a little while they pop up again. I have no idea what is going on. I rooted with Unrevoked 3.21...maybe something didn't go right?
I also can't get BusyBox to install which is a major pain in da ass because so many apps need it

[Q] where are market downloads stored?

gents,
I wonder in which folder the downloaded market apps go before the get installed.
Additionally the question rises if one can delete those files or do they get deleted automatically after installation??
HorNet505 said:
gents,
I wonder in which folder the downloaded market apps go before the get installed.
Additionally the question rises if one can delete those files or do they get deleted automatically after installation??
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They are run from the location they are downloaded to on the phone. So when you download a file from the App Market it will be stored in the folder, installed and run from said APK. If you move it to SD it moves the file from internal to external. If you uninstall the file if it sits on the phones memory it will automatically delete the file.
Not quite. They are stored on the cache partition. They are not always deleted, but they do not take up app space as the partition size is fixed. And when the space is needed on the cache partition, eventually they are deleted.
Is the cache folder visible to me? What's it called.
I got the problem that, despite all my apps are moved to my SD card, the updates fill up my internal memory. I understood that the updated apps are as well moved to the SD card. This is my default setting as well i
Downloaded apks are gets stored in /data/app. You need ROOT access to locate them. Root Explorer will let you access these files.
ip2op01 said:
Downloaded apks are gets stored in /data/app. You need ROOT access to locate them. Root Explorer will let you access these files.
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Let me make a correction here: installed apps are stored in /data/app (requiring root for write permissions). System apps are stored in /system/app (requiring S-OFF or Recovery mode for write permissions). Downloaded apks are stored in /cache/download, which is why in partition tables, where the cache partition is >5 MB, you should symlink the download folder to a folder in the sdcard, to be able to download apps larger than 5 MB. Otherwise the market will return the error "Insufficient storage available." or something like that.
Not that all of that really matters, seeing as this is a year old thread...
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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[Q] [Help]Can't restore apps after moving them back from sd card to system/app folder

I'm using a Xperia ARC
Recently I have unlocked the bootloader, and rooted the firmware (0.62) by recovery method, and removed some system apps by using root explorer (the method of moving xxx.apk to sd card).
However, the Play Store always force close when I click "accept" to download apps, so I tried to move back all the system apps from the sd card to system/app folder. But after moving them back, and had a reboot, those apps still did not appear in the app drawer, it seems that they can not be restore successfully. I open root explorer and go to system/app folder, and click on the apk files, an installation window pops up and asking for permission for installing, rather than replacing <---- this proves that those system app are not restored yet, even I moved them back to the system/app folder.
Sorry for my poor English and hope you guys could understand what I am saying. Still not getting into Play Store and thinking of flashing a Generic Global ROM if the problem still cannot be solved........
natural4862 said:
I'm using a Xperia ARC
Recently I have unlocked the bootloader, and rooted the firmware (0.62) by recovery method, and removed some system apps by using root explorer (the method of moving xxx.apk to sd card).
However, the Play Store always force close when I click "accept" to download apps, so I tried to move back all the system apps from the sd card to system/app folder. But after moving them back, and had a reboot, those apps still did not appear in the app drawer, it seems that they can not be restore successfully. I open root explorer and go to system/app folder, and click on the apk files, an installation window pops up and asking for permission for installing, rather than replacing <---- this proves that those system app are not restored yet, even I moved them back to the system/app folder.
Sorry for my poor English and hope you guys could understand what I am saying. Still not getting into Play Store and thinking of flashing a Generic Global ROM if the problem still cannot be solved........
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First of all, check the permissions after transfering the files.
And,before moving the apps,you must make a backup of the apps using TitaniumBackup app.This app completely backs-up your files and can restore the apps just as perfect.
I suggest you to flash the generic rom and root again but this time,make backups using TitaniumBackup app and then remove the bloatware..
Many thanks! TB works great!

Pre-load apps with rom flash

Hey guys, I was wondering if there is a way to pre-load some applications into the rom so that they load upon 1st flash.
I have had success only with 2-3 apps out of 30+. This is what I have done.
Open the ROM Zip file with winrar and navigate to system\app directory. I have deleted unwanted bloat (swype, TW launcher, camera.apk, TW camera) and added about 30+ apk files that I would like to have preloaded. I flashed the ROM and after the load screen I begin to get error messages, "unfortunately this application has stopped" (or something along those lines.) A few apps did load, Nova launcher, Jelly Bean style Camera, but programs like Gmail, Maps, gallaxy wallpaper, setcpu, and a few games do not laod.
Now I have started from scratch, and removed the preloaded apps I had moved to the system\app directory. I did remove the bloat listed above. The rom loads fine and I have to spend 30 minutes manually installing each individual app. This is why I would like for it to automatically install all the applications upon 1st boot.
I think it may have to do with the fact that while installing the apps manually I must 1st allow installation of non-market apps under setting/security.
Is there a workaround for this, so that I can load all my apps on 1st flash.
Thanks,
I've heard that there's an app called app2zip which you can backup apps and put into a zip file. Then right before leaving recovery flash the zip and when you're booted you'll have all your apps loaded up
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Most apps won't run as system apps. Instead of putting them in system/app Should put your apps in /data/app If the rom you're using already has a data folder you should be good. If it doesn't you'll have to edit the update_script within /META-INF/com/google/android
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Tnallen said:
Most apps won't run as system apps. Instead of putting them in system/app Should put your apps in /data/app If the rom you're using already has a data folder you should be good. If it doesn't you'll have to edit the update_script within /META-INF/com/google/android
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Beat me too it. There are a lot of apps that end up in data/app such as gmail, games, and other apps. Think of it this way, most of the apps in the system area were initially intended to be there. The ones in data/app are like add-ons. normally the ones in system are hard coded in the actual boot code, so unless you can manipulate that area, try the data/app area like Tnallen stated

moving apps from system/app

I have a few apps like facebook google plus and google maps which are by default installed in XperiaS.
I am rooted stock ics. 45 build.
Can I remove or delete the applications from system/app cause any problems?
And I want to install them from playstore if I need them.
So anyone tell me which.directory does the app we install from playstore are installed so that i.can move apps from sys/app in that folder..
Yes you can and yes, you can easily uninstall/move them.
Use root explorer to move the app/apk that you not want to move from System/app to your SD Card Folder.
Just make sure not to delete or move any system apk, that is required to run the OS.
More Specific instructions by Redstarr1 below- so follow it, u shud b fine.
molzz said:
I have a few apps like facebook google plus and google maps which are by default installed in XperiaS.
I am rooted stock ics. 45 build.
Can I remove or delete the applications from system/app cause any problems?
And I want to install them from playstore if I need them.
So anyone tell me which.directory does the app we install from playstore are installed so that i.can move apps from sys/app in that folder..
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So auni already told you you can remove apps like Facebook, G+ and Gmaps easily from /system/app. If you want the app back as a "normal" app, you can:
- copy those apps to /data/app, I'd go with one of the following options though
- copy those apps to your external storage and install them like you would any other app (so once you copied the app outside of /system, press it and a dialog will open)
- delete those apps and install them from Play Store.

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