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[Q] Rapid Battery Life depletion during sleep

Hey XDA friends. I got the Verizon HTC One a few weeks ago and battery life started out fantastic. When I put away to go to sleep it only lost 7% all night with GPS on and wifi on and all that and I was astonished. However as time went on I found those results kept getting worse and worse until I was draining 30% in a night. I went and uninstalled battery guru and now I only drain 12% a night. Some nights however I still lose 20% in a night with sleep mode on. How do I check what keeps waking my phone up and draining my battery. I'm afraid this will affect my phone's battery in the long run. I will start disabling GPS at night but I wish I still had that 7% in a night. How do I check what is messing with my phone???

nscian12 said:
Hey XDA friends. I got the Verizon HTC One a few weeks ago and battery life started out fantastic. When I put away to go to sleep it only lost 7% all night with GPS on and wifi on and all that and I was astonished. However as time went on I found those results kept getting worse and worse until I was draining 30% in a night. I went and uninstalled battery guru and now I only drain 12% a night. Some nights however I still lose 20% in a night with sleep mode on. How do I check what keeps waking my phone up and draining my battery. I'm afraid this will affect my phone's battery in the long run. I will start disabling GPS at night but I wish I still had that 7% in a night. How do I check what is messing with my phone???
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go to settings/power/usage. this will tell you which app is using the most of you battery. also you should never have gps on while youre sleeping. you might also want to turn off auto-sync and then re-enable it after you wake up. you can create a widget to do just that. if you need help with that, just let me know.

Turn data Wi-Fi and gps off lol.... You are asleep
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nscian12 said:
Hey XDA friends. I got the Verizon HTC One a few weeks ago and battery life started out fantastic. When I put away to go to sleep it only lost 7% all night with GPS on and wifi on and all that and I was astonished. However as time went on I found those results kept getting worse and worse until I was draining 30% in a night. I went and uninstalled battery guru and now I only drain 12% a night. Some nights however I still lose 20% in a night with sleep mode on. How do I check what keeps waking my phone up and draining my battery. I'm afraid this will affect my phone's battery in the long run. I will start disabling GPS at night but I wish I still had that 7% in a night. How do I check what is messing with my phone???
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Do you use blinkfeed, that will kill your battery pretty fast. Even if you don't think you are using it, go check and see if it's syncing anything in the settings. I thought mine was turned off, but then I logged into facebook (turned sync off in facebook), later I found that blinkfeed was syncing it anyway w/out my knowledge.

dspcap said:
Do you use blinkfeed, that will kill your battery pretty fast. Even if you don't think you are using it, go check and see if it's syncing anything in the settings. I thought mine was turned off, but then I logged into facebook (turned sync off in facebook), later I found that blinkfeed was syncing it anyway w/out my knowledge.
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you cant turn blinkfeed off...

.kronos. said:
you cant turn blinkfeed off...
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You can go into settings and make sure everything is unchecked. Mine had several checked by default and it was draining battery.
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Update: Battery only drained 10% last night with GPS off, Blinkfeed never updates on its own and all social networks are checked off (I don't like my social networks on Blinkfeed) other than that though everything seems to be in check. If anyone else has anyway to improve that 10% let me know (by the way the 10% was drained during 9 hours of constant sleep I went from 77 to 67)

nscian12 said:
Update: Battery only drained 10% last night with GPS off, Blinkfeed never updates on its own and all social networks are checked off (I don't like my social networks on Blinkfeed) other than that though everything seems to be in check. If anyone else has anyway to improve that 10% let me know (by the way the 10% was drained during 9 hours of constant sleep I went from 77 to 67)
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airplane mode...
Really, 1% per hour on standby with cellular radios on is pretty acceptable. Depending on signal strength, the radio could be pulling that just to maintain a connection to the tower.

Thanks everyone!
With GPS off, Sleep mode on, and NO BATTERY HELPER APPS (Battery guru was diminishing my battery life) I got a record breaking (for me) 4% loss in battery life during my 8 hour night's sleep, not bad if I do say so myself, after that my battery has been a lot better. I wish Verizon would give us HTC's battery saving software back but let's not ask too much of Verizon or they might give us timely updates.

nscian12 said:
With GPS off, Sleep mode on, and NO BATTERY HELPER APPS (Battery guru was diminishing my battery life) I got a record breaking (for me) 4% loss in battery life during my 8 hour night's sleep, not bad if I do say so myself, after that my battery has been a lot better. I wish Verizon would give us HTC's battery saving software back but let's not ask too much of Verizon or they might give us timely updates.
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Glad to hear this!!
those battery saving apps are so pointless IMHO, it's just another app and if coded incorrectly will do exactly what it did to you, destroy your battery that is working fine. very happy you can now enjoy your phone the way was designed to be!

andybones said:
Glad to hear this!!
those battery saving apps are so pointless IMHO, it's just another app and if coded incorrectly will do exactly what it did to you, destroy your battery that is working fine. very happy you can now enjoy your phone the way was designed to be!
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Thanks! unfortunately I don't root my phones but for now the One does what I need it to perfectly and seamlessly

nscian12 said:
Update: Battery only drained 10% last night with GPS off, Blinkfeed never updates on its own and all social networks are checked off (I don't like my social networks on Blinkfeed) other than that though everything seems to be in check. If anyone else has anyway to improve that 10% let me know (by the way the 10% was drained during 9 hours of constant sleep I went from 77 to 67)
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Hey..I had the same problem so...first download wakelock detector from play store..after installing jus use your phone like as usual..after 4 to 5 hrs or right before you charge your phone, open the wakelock app and check what's waking up your phone during sleep..for everyone it seems the battery is drained by Google services ..the main culprit being the location services.. so switch off the location services in settings..and also in Google maps, go into setting and then into Google location settings and make sure location reporting and location history are disabled, make sure they are unchecked.. that's it..restart the phone..fully charge it and test it out ..and DON'T use any battery saving apps ..and also uninstall wakelocker app after your battery life is back to normal..I'm an average user and I unplug around 9 in da morning and when I come home around 6, I still have 65% left..I don use facebook .. heard even facebook app is major battery drainer....you jus have to tweak and play with settings till you find your desired battery life expectancy cos everyone uses their phone differently..and we all have different apps so the main thing is to find out what's eating the phone battery most...I'm just pleased with my decision in picking HTC ONE over galaxy S4

similar problem here....google services is killing my battery (relatively). location is part of it, but google hangouts is also going crazy (watchdog alerts me to excessive usage....over 50%, but hangouts was at 100%)
i was spoiled on my g-nex, where i left wifi, bluetooth, and GPS on 24/7 and could easily go 24 hours. now i'm lucky to get 12 (with about 1 hour of screen on time).
I'm hoping things will sort out, device is only about a week old, but google optimized location usage (iirc) such that it isn't supposed to constantly ping and kill battery. we shall see, i guess.

I'm not sure what the problem could be but I'm just gonna say that yesterday I got around 18 hours of battery life with over 5 hours screen on time which I consider awesome battery life.
I'm stock, so it's definitely possible to get good battery life.

10 percent overnight? Thats not that great but not horrible. My dna is running carbon (android 4.3) I use tasker to turn off autosync and data/wifi and put it on silent at whatever set time I make it. My phone drains about 5 percent max overnight, usually a lot less.

anilpalepu said:
Hey..I had the same problem so...first download wakelock detector from play store..after installing jus use your phone like as usual..after 4 to 5 hrs or right before you charge your phone, open the wakelock app and check what's waking up your phone during sleep..for everyone it seems the battery is drained by Google services ..the main culprit being the location services.. so switch off the location services in settings..and also in Google maps, go into setting and then into Google location settings and make sure location reporting and location history are disabled, make sure they are unchecked.. that's it..restart the phone..fully charge it and test it out ..and DON'T use any battery saving apps ..and also uninstall wakelocker app after your battery life is back to normal..I'm an average user and I unplug around 9 in da morning and when I come home around 6, I still have 65% left..I don use facebook .. heard even facebook app is major battery drainer....you jus have to tweak and play with settings till you find your desired battery life expectancy cos everyone uses their phone differently..and we all have different apps so the main thing is to find out what's eating the phone battery most...I'm just pleased with my decision in picking HTC ONE over galaxy S4
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you can turn off updates in facebook and its not bad, but yeah if you have autoupdate on, it can kill the battery.
as far as the OP, I don't get why you don't charge you phone while you are sleeping. Seems like the perfect time.

Turning GPS off shouldn't affect your battery life. If you're not using your phone, the phone isn't going to use the GPS for anything. So it shouldn't be using your battery. The culprit is usually an app that is wakelocking your phone. So you need to find which app it is that constantly wakes your phone from deep sleep. Turning off autosync would help a bit if you are really paranoid. The big thing that hurts our battery when the screen is off, is the LTE radio, but most people are connected to WiFi when they sleep so it's not a big deal.
Just an FYI, turning off GPS has been ineffective since 2.2 Froyo. When Gingerbread 2.3 was released like 2+ years ago, it allowed for the GPS to only be used when an app called for it to be used. Otherwise GPS will not do anything unless you pull up an app that calls it to do something.

standby wifi battery consumption

According to you it is normal that night the note 2 get to consume 14 % of battery standby time leaving the wifi active?
I sucks on average 2% for hour ... after 7 hours approximately 14%
I tried everything, I hibernated greenify almost everything (apart from whatsapp), I turned off sync but the result always the same ....

mysterionTM said:
According to you it is normal that night the note 2 get to consume 14 % of battery standby time leaving the wifi active?
I sucks on average 2% for hour ... after 7 hours approximately 14%
I tried everything, I hibernated greenify almost everything (apart from whatsapp), I turned off sync but the result always the same ....
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Go intoWwifi setting, press menu button and select advanced settings. Play around with those options. I assume you're on Sammy 4.3 ROM?
KEEP WIFI ON DURING SLEEP = NO!
SCANNING ALWAYS AVAILABLE = NO!
Tun off wifi b4 u go to sleep always works too. Us Wakelock detector or Better Battery Stats apps to check on rogue processed too.
Good luck

tweeny80 said:
Go intoWwifi setting, press menu button and select advanced settings. Play around with those options. I assume you're on Sammy 4.3 ROM?
KEEP WIFI ON DURING SLEEP = NO!
SCANNING ALWAYS AVAILABLE = NO!
Tun off wifi b4 u go to sleep always works too. Us Wakelock detector or Better Battery Stats apps to check on rogue processed too.
Good luck
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I'm on 4.1.2
For the app I checked and it seems no. ...I think it is due only to the wifi
Do you think it is normal that consumes 2% for each hour battery only for wifi active?
And 14% on the night, after 7 hours ago

Doubts about battery A5 2017

Hi, I have doubts about the battery or need advices.
When I go to sleep at night and wake up in the morning (6 - 7 hours), the phone drains about 15 - 20%, is it normal?
When I go to sleep I put it in mid power saving, 80% brightness, wi fi and AoD activated, blue filter activated, auto brightness checkbox deactivated and in settings -> maintenance I erase RAM.
Even though, the battery lasts 36 hours or more.
Thanks in advance.

That's normal standby for most devices, though I don't really lose as much percentage overnight by just closing all apps before I go to bed and keeping the brightness low while leaving WiFi and Location Services on. I go to bed with 60% and wake up 7 hours later with around 50%, so maybe you're doing something wrong. But 15-20% overnight isn't really a big deal at all considering how fast this phone charges.; you get 20% back by charging for just 15 minutes. You'd really over ever notice a difference in standby time if you're coming from an iPhone which has the best standby time in the business, but this phone makes up for it just fine.

xHovercraft said:
That's normal standby for most devices, though I don't really lose as much percentage overnight by just closing all apps before I go to bed and keeping the brightness low while leaving WiFi and Location Services on. I go to bed with 60% and wake up 7 hours later with around 50%, so maybe you're doing something wrong. But 15-20% overnight isn't really a big deal at all considering how fast this phone charges.; you get 20% back by charging for just 15 minutes. You'd really over ever notice a difference in standby time if you're coming from an iPhone which has the best standby time in the business, but this phone makes up for it just fine.
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I see. In fact, last night it went from 60 to 51, so it depends on a lot of things.
Do you say I must change/add some other settings to improve the battery life?
Thanks a lot for your answer!

brutzza said:
I see. In fact, last night it went from 60 to 51, so it depends on a lot of things.
Do you say I must change/add some other settings to improve the battery life?
Thanks a lot for your answer!
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I knew for sure that my battery life increased exponentially when the phone started dozing apps I didn't frequently use. The phone hibernates apps after 3-7 days of not being used, but you can put them to sleep yourself in Device Maintenance.

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I lost just 1-5 at the night I stop AoD,and wifi if you use Facebook app or social media apps will drain battery faster than when using browser it's better.:good:

xHovercraft said:
I knew for sure that my battery life increased exponentially when the phone started dozing apps I didn't frequently use. The phone hibernates apps after 3-7 days of not being used, but you can put them to sleep yourself in Device Maintenance.
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Where exactly do I put apps to sleep? Or may I force them to stop? (don't know if it is said like that, I have it in Spanish).

MSandMan said:
I lost just 1-5 at the night I stop AoD,and wifi if you use Facebook app or social media apps will drain battery faster than when using browser it's better.:good:
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Only 1-5% ? Amazing. Yeah, but if you deactivate wifi, you won't get any notifications of anything during the night (if you think about it, you won't answer any because you are sleeping). Maybe I'll try that.
I don't use Facebook too much, but the browser version is a bit slower and not comfortable IMO.
The principal app that drains my battery is the PvZ2, though.

It will disconects wifi even when you turn it on... I lose abou 2 to 3 % night, but I dont see point of having device on during night so now I power it ofd

brutzza said:
Where exactly do I put apps to sleep? Or may I force them to stop? (don't know if it is said like that, I have it in Spanish).
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Settings > Device Maintenance > Battery > Check the apps you don't frequently use and tap Save Power. If you choose to sleep Instagram, for example, you can still open it anytime later by just tapping the app, it'll just take an extra second to start which you won't even notice.

Pandotaz said:
It will disconects wifi even when you turn it on... I lose abou 2 to 3 % night, but I dont see point of having device on during night so now I power it ofd
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Instead of turning it off completely, you can also use the maximum power saving mode. Using that, I went to sleep with 97% and once I checked after waking up it was 96%.
I didn't measure the boot time of the device (not that I even care about it) but disabling the power saving mode might be a bit faster than turning the phone on.

Thanks all of you!

It is NOT normal for battery to drain 15-20% overnight.
Normal drain in that period would be 1-2% without AOD and 4-5% with AOD.
Battery wise A5 '17 have good one. I usually get about 7 hrs on SOT with medium ussage or 1.5 days ussage.

Battery draining issuein Realme X

I brought this phone on first sale.
On 3-4 days of usage I realized that the battery is draining too fast on standby mode.
When I checked the battery usage following two apps keep on running 24hrs in background:
1.Google Play Services
2.OppoDolbyService
They almost consume 30% battery in background each.
I could find no way of stopping these apps.
When I sleep with 14% battery at night I always find my phone switched off in the morning.
Kindly help.

Doesn't happen in mine...
Last night it fell by 1 or 2% overnight (about 6 hours).
But then, I'm very careful about what apps I download.
Try clearing the cache of those misbehaving apps.
Good luck

Xebeck said:
Doesn't happen in mine...
Last night it fell by 1 or 2% overnight (about 6 hours).
But then, I'm very careful about what apps I download.
Try clearing the cache of those misbehaving apps.
Good luck
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I t does not happen to me also, only one percent drop overnight. But I dont allow to autorun
unnecessary apps. see settings--app management--select any app--allow auto startup--to disable. restart the phone.
it should improve.

Xebeck said:
Doesn't happen in mine...
Last night it fell by 1 or 2% overnight (about 6 hours).
But then, I'm very careful about what apps I download.
Try clearing the cache of those misbehaving apps.
Good luck
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Same here, Mine is Chinese vers

sanurag229z said:
I brought this phone on first sale.
On 3-4 days of usage I realized that the battery is draining too fast on standby mode.
When I checked the battery usage following two apps keep on running 24hrs in background:
1.Google Play Services
2.OppoDolbyService
They almost consume 30% battery in background each.
I could find no way of stopping these apps.
When I sleep with 14% battery at night I always find my phone switched off in the morning.
Kindly help.
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Same issue here. Got my device just yesterday. Battery drain overnight was about 13%. If this is the condition now then what if when the device is older. I do have a lot of apps installed and 3 apps can auto start (else they wont work as they are messaging apps, right? ), so should I disable them as well ?

prashant2198 said:
Same issue here. Got my device just yesterday. Battery drain overnight was about 13%. If this is the condition now then what if when the device is older. I do have a lot of apps installed and 3 apps can auto start (else they wont work as they are messaging apps, right? ), so should I disable them as well ?
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Update : So I disabled all sorts of vibration, fingerprint wake on movement detection, double tap screen on, basically disabled all sorts of sensor function, and I personally don't like the animations in these Chinese roms so I disabled that as well, phone feels snappier, Sleep mode is on, auto start apps is off for all. So after all this battery backup is great now, overnight drain is also 2-3% max. So all good.

Question Abnormal battery consumption when idle?

My Asus ROG Phone 6 loses 5% battery life in 24h while just idling.
WiFi and Bluetooth are turned off. I don't have a SIM card installed yet, but even with a "Aeroplane mode" activated, I get the same consumption.
Is that consumption normal?
What irritates me is that in the beginning I saw horizontal lines in the "Battery usage" chart, indicating close to zero battery consumption when the phone was turned off. I don't get these horizontal segments anymore.
I installed GSam Battery Monitor and it shows 100% time spent in Deep sleep (but shows a "5% / 5%" for "Discharge Screen Off"). In the "OTHERS" chart, "Doze" is a continuous line but "Active" shows a lot of interrupted small blocks ("Screen" is obviously completely absent). "Wifi" is shown as always on, but I believe that is a bug because I turned off the location-based features that turn on Wifi automatically, turned on Aeroplane mode, etc. After a restart, the "Wifi" bar was correctly absent for a while but briefly turning Wifi on, got it back to "always on". I'm 99.9% sure this is a GSam bug.
I have double confirmed with "DevCheck" that the CPU goes to "Deep sleep" and spends pretty much all the time in that state.
I get about "5m" combined App Wakelocks in 48h.
The biggest battery consumer is "Kernel (Android OS) 7.5%", followed by "System (*wakelock*) 2.3%", "Google Play services 1.6%". These figures are from a 14 day period in which I used the phone for 3h to play a game (6.7% consumption) and otherwise only turned it on to check the battery. I currently don't have access to the percentage figures during pure sleeping since I plugged in the phone for charging.
Using GSam Battery Monitor, I don't see any app wasting battery life in the background. It's the kernel that consumes the vast majority of the battery life, if the phone is idle. The Android/Asus Battery usage stats show "Phone idle" with 54.7% for that 14 day period. The next one is the game with 3.8% (played for 3h) and then there is "Screen" with 1.9%.
I'd understand this kind of idle figure if the phone had a SIM card installed and bad reception but as I said before there is no card in the phone yet and the consumption is the same if I put it in Aeroplane mode.
I'm running Android 12, build 32.2810.2212.241.
The battery "system mode" is "Dynamic". The refresh rate is set to "60Hz" (not that it should matter with the screen turned off all the time). "Battery Saver" in the "Developer options" is turned "on".
I'd be grateful if someone could comment on the 5% battery life loss within 24h. I realize that many will not be able to compare this with their figures, as they'll have a cell phone service running, but perhaps those who turns on Aeroplane mode, should have comparable figures, for an 8h period, or so.
My Huawei Mate 20 (running Android 10) shows pretty much no consumption at all over night via the battery stats, when I turn on Aeroplane mode. Perhaps it loses 1% or at most 2%, I'll check again. Should the ROG Phone 6 behave the same, or is this difference to be expected?
Again, I'm irritated that I definitely saw multiple horizontal (no usage) periods in the battery usage chart in the beginning. I'm pretty sure these appeared before I had given the phone a full charge yet, so perhaps they weren't really indicative of close to zero consumption due to a lack of battery capacity calibration.

TomKay said:
My Asus ROG Phone 6 loses 5% battery life in 24h while just idling.
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Congratulations. 0.2%/h is a very good result.

TomKay said:
My Asus ROG Phone 6 loses 5% battery life in 24h while just idling.
WiFi and Bluetooth are turned off. I don't have a SIM card installed yet, but even with a "Aeroplane mode" activated, I get the same consumption.
Is that consumption normal?
What irritates me is that in the beginning I saw horizontal lines in the "Battery usage" chart, indicating close to zero battery consumption when the phone was turned off. I don't get these horizontal segments anymore.
I installed GSam Battery Monitor and it shows 100% time spent in Deep sleep (but shows a "5% / 5%" for "Discharge Screen Off"). In the "OTHERS" chart, "Doze" is a continuous line but "Active" shows a lot of interrupted small blocks ("Screen" is obviously completely absent). "Wifi" is shown as always on, but I believe that is a bug because I turned off the location-based features that turn on Wifi automatically, turned on Aeroplane mode, etc. After a restart, the "Wifi" bar was correctly absent for a while but briefly turning Wifi on, got it back to "always on". I'm 99.9% sure this is a GSam bug.
I have double confirmed with "DevCheck" that the CPU goes to "Deep sleep" and spends pretty much all the time in that state.
I get about "5m" combined App Wakelocks in 48h.
The biggest battery consumer is "Kernel (Android OS) 7.5%", followed by "System (*wakelock*) 2.3%", "Google Play services 1.6%". These figures are from a 14 day period in which I used the phone for 3h to play a game (6.7% consumption) and otherwise only turned it on to check the battery. I currently don't have access to the percentage figures during pure sleeping since I plugged in the phone for charging.
Using GSam Battery Monitor, I don't see any app wasting battery life in the background. It's the kernel that consumes the vast majority of the battery life, if the phone is idle. The Android/Asus Battery usage stats show "Phone idle" with 54.7% for that 14 day period. The next one is the game with 3.8% (played for 3h) and then there is "Screen" with 1.9%.
I'd understand this kind of idle figure if the phone had a SIM card installed and bad reception but as I said before there is no card in the phone yet and the consumption is the same if I put it in Aeroplane mode.
I'm running Android 12, build 32.2810.2212.241.
The battery "system mode" is "Dynamic". The refresh rate is set to "60Hz" (not that it should matter with the screen turned off all the time). "Battery Saver" in the "Developer options" is turned "on".
I'd be grateful if someone could comment on the 5% battery life loss within 24h. I realize that many will not be able to compare this with their figures, as they'll have a cell phone service running, but perhaps those who turns on Aeroplane mode, should have comparable figures, for an 8h period, or so.
My Huawei Mate 20 (running Android 10) shows pretty much no consumption at all over night via the battery stats, when I turn on Aeroplane mode. Perhaps it loses 1% or at most 2%, I'll check again. Should the ROG Phone 6 behave the same, or is this difference to be expected?
Again, I'm irritated that I definitely saw multiple horizontal (no usage) periods in the battery usage chart in the beginning. I'm pretty sure these appeared before I had given the phone a full charge yet, so perhaps they weren't really indicative of close to zero consumption due to a lack of battery capacity calibration.
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I lose 0% on 10 hours standby in flight mode

Thanos88 said:
I lose 0% on 10 hours standby in flight mode
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That's great!
What build number of Android OS are you running?
I'd be grateful, if you could check it and post it here.
Have you done anything to get this performance or is it "out of the box"?

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0.2%/h is a very good result.
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I'm not so sure.
First, remember that this figure is without any cell phone service drawing current.
Second, I initially saw segments of the battery consumption graph that were horizontal, but no longer do.
Third, look at what Thanos88 reported.
I've seen other posts about unusually high idle consumption of the ROG Phone 6. I believe most users will not even notice because they don't shut down their phones fully and the idle consumption disappears as noise under the all the higher normal consumption. Perhaps other users don't complain, because they don't suffer from the issue I seem to be having. I don't know.

TomKay said:
That's great!
What build number of Android OS are you running?
I'd be grateful, if you could check it and post it here.
Have you done anything to get this performance or is it "out of the box"?
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android 12
.197 firmware
Done plenty of app debloating

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android 12
.197 firmware
Done plenty of app debloating
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Thanks!
I note that you are not on the latest version (.241). That could explain the difference. Perhaps I saw the near to zero consumption before I accepted the update to .241? That is quite possible.
I've done a lot of app debloating as well, removing Facebook, etc., but as I mentioned before, there are no apps that cause any noteworthy battery consumption. Did you do anything out of the ordinary? I first just uninstalled and/or disabled some apps/services that I did not need and later even uninstalled some via ADB. The latter made no difference regarding battery consumption.
My 5%/24h figure comes from
41.3% Android System
15.2% Kernel (Android OS)
4.4% Phone Services
3.5% com.android.systemui:screenshot
3.1% Google Play services
2.0% com.google.uid.shared:.....
1.9% GSam Battery Monitor
0.9% ASUS Launcher
There are some more (e.g., 0.4% Gmail) but they don't use much at all.
Time Held Awake (over a 37h period):
Kernel (Android OS) 10m 53s
Android System 4m 1s
Google Play services 16s
com.google.uid.shared:..... 2s
com.android.systemui:screenshot 1s
That's all, no other apps/services are reported to keep the phone awake (while it was idling).
Number of times Waking Device
Google Play services 48
Android System 34
Calendar Storage 8
android.uid.calendar:..... 7
com.android.systemui:screenshot 6
com.google.android.partnersetup 5
There are a few more, but the next one has a figure of 3 and the rest are all lower.
No network data used (no SIM card, Wifi turned off) and no location used either.
I note that further battery consumers were sensors used by
Dirac Control Service 13m 5s
Android System 1m 17s
I do not know whether this is normal.
Is it possible to revert to the .197 firmware (or whatever firmware version my phone originally had) by performing a factory reset?
Or does the latter just clear all user data but leaves the current firmware in place?
In the latter case I would have to flash the .197 firmware manually, correct?
Would the latter be safe regarding warranty, etc.?
I don't want to root the phone or anything like that, I just would like to avoid unnecessary battery consumption.

TomKay said:
Thanks!
I note that you are not on the latest version (.241). That could explain the difference. Perhaps I saw the near to zero consumption before I accepted the update to .241? That is quite possible.
I've done a lot of app debloating as well, removing Facebook, etc., but as I mentioned before, there are no apps that cause any noteworthy battery consumption. Did you do anything out of the ordinary? I first just uninstalled and/or disabled some apps/services that I did not need and later even uninstalled some via ADB. The latter made no difference regarding battery consumption.
My 5%/24h figure comes from
41.3% Android System
15.2% Kernel (Android OS)
4.4% Phone Services
3.5% com.android.systemui:screenshot
3.1% Google Play services
2.0% com.google.uid.shared:.....
1.9% GSam Battery Monitor
0.9% ASUS Launcher
There are some more (e.g., 0.4% Gmail) but they don't use much at all.
Time Held Awake (over a 37h period):
Kernel (Android OS) 10m 53s
Android System 4m 1s
Google Play services 16s
com.google.uid.shared:..... 2s
com.android.systemui:screenshot 1s
That's all, no other apps/services are reported to keep the phone awake (while it was idling).
Number of times Waking Device
Google Play services 48
Android System 34
Calendar Storage 8
android.uid.calendar:..... 7
com.android.systemui:screenshot 6
com.google.android.partnersetup 5
There are a few more, but the next one has a figure of 3 and the rest are all lower.
No network data used (no SIM card, Wifi turned off) and no location used either.
I note that further battery consumers were sensors used by
Dirac Control Service 13m 5s
Android System 1m 17s
I do not know whether this is normal.
Is it possible to revert to the .197 firmware (or whatever firmware version my phone originally had) by performing a factory reset?
Or does the latter just clear all user data but leaves the current firmware in place?
In the latter case I would have to flash the .197 firmware manually, correct?
Would the latter be safe regarding warranty, etc.?
I don't want to root the phone or anything like that, I just would like to avoid unnecessary battery consumption.
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Try to force stop and clear data & clear cache of Google play services , then reboot your device , charge to full and then see what happens

Thanos88 said:
Try to force stop and clear data & clear cache of Google play services , then reboot your device , charge to full and then see what happens
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Thanks for the tip! I've done that before, without the "charge to full". I can try the exact sequence you have described.
Given the usage figures, Google play services are not using much:
Just
3.1% Google Play services
compared to
41.3% Android System
15.2% Kernel (Android OS)
4.4% Phone Services
Are you saying that either Google Play services are using battery in a way that GSam does not catch, or that Google Play services somehow responsible for the high system consumption?

I would say Google play services is causing the issue. Also I forgot to mention, make sure you force stop, then click "uninstall updates" on Google play services, then clear cache , then Clear data then reboot your phone.
If that doesn't help, I highly recommend you dow load BBS (Better battery stats) , give it adb permissions, and monitor your battery life/wakelocks with that app
TomKay said:
Thanks for the tip! I've done that before, without the "charge to full". I can try the exact sequence you have described.
Given the usage figures, Google play services are not using much:
Just
3.1% Google Play services
compared to
41.3% Android System
15.2% Kernel (Android OS)
4.4% Phone Services
Are you saying that either Google Play services are using battery in a way that GSam does not catch, or that Google Play services somehow responsible for the high system consumption?
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Thanos88 said:
I would say Google play services is causing the issue. Also I forgot to mention, make sure you force stop, then click "uninstall updates" on Google play services, then clear cache , then Clear data then reboot your phone.
If that doesn't help, I highly recommend you dow load BBS (Better battery stats) , give it adb permissions, and monitor your battery life/wakelocks with that app
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I followed the steps you described (including the "uninstall updates") and will report results, once the phone has fully charged and has idled for 24h. If there is no change, I'll uninstall GSam and install BBS.
Thanks a lot for your help.

Sadly, clearing the data&cache of Google Play services and downgrading it, did not help, at least it does not look like it helped right now.
This time, the battery lost 6% in 30h (went from 100% to 94%).
The last few hours showed very little battery consumption, though. Perhaps there was some book keeping to do after reboot which caused some consumption up until very recently.
I'll let the phone idle for another 24h and see whether the flat period continues. It would be awesome if it did.

I let the phone idle for another 24h and even though I restricted battery usage for more apps/services, the idle consumption did not change.
I'll try Better Battery Stats now.

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TomKay said:
I let the phone idle for another 24h and even though I restricted battery usage for more apps/services, the idle consumption did not change.
I'll try Better Battery Stats now.
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That's odd. What's your software number?

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That's odd. What's your software number?
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Android 12, build 32.2810.2212.241
Three updates more current than your .197 version.
I would have thought that if Google Play services were at fault, GSam Battery Monitor would have showed that. But perhaps not. I'll see whether BBS will provide any better clues. I could also try to disable Google Play services (just for diagnosing purposes), but I'm not sure that would result in any useful data, as many apps complain, if one disables Google Play services completely.
I suspect the difference between your idle consumption and mine is the firmware version. I've disabled/restricted so many apps/services, I doubt the phone would run normally now. So far, no culprit has been identified.

TomKay said:
Android 12, build 32.2810.2212.241
Three updates more current than your .197 version.
I would have thought that if Google Play services were at fault, GSam Battery Monitor would have showed that. But perhaps not. I'll see whether BBS will provide any better clues. I could also try to disable Google Play services (just for diagnosing purposes), but I'm not sure that would result in any useful data, as many apps complain, if one disables Google Play services completely.
I suspect the difference between your idle consumption and mine is the firmware version. I've disabled/restricted so many apps/services, I doubt the phone would run normally now. So far, no culprit has been identified.
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It's going to be the firmware then, or maybe even an app you've installed. I'm currently on 44% battery, with 9 hours 41 mins SOT, 1 days 2 hours off charge

Thanos88 said:
It's going to be the firmware then, or maybe even an app you've installed. I'm currently on 44% battery, with 9 hours 41 mins SOT, 1 days 2 hours off charge
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I think I can exclude any user apps, since,
1. The issue is the same if I start the phone in "Safe mode" (disables all user apps).
2. GSam Battery Monitor would have reported high usage by an app.
The battery consumers are the OS and motion sensors.
I turned off "Lift phone to check" (or similar) and the phone indeed does not activate the lock screen when I move it while the screen is dark. The phone stills faintly shows the fingerprint area if I move it, so some motion detection must be going on. I don't think this behaviour can be disabled, or can it?

TomKay said:
I think I can exclude any user apps, since,
1. The issue is the same if I start the phone in "Safe mode" (disables all user apps).
2. GSam Battery Monitor would have reported high usage by an app.
The battery consumers are the OS and motion sensors.
I turned off "Lift phone to check" (or similar) and the phone indeed does not activate the lock screen when I move it while the screen is dark. The phone stills faintly shows the fingerprint area if I move it, so some motion detection must be going on. I don't think this behaviour can be disabled, or can it?
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The fingerprint motion can be switched off in the settings however, it's probably the firmware that's causing the main issue imo

Thanos88 said:
The fingerprint motion can be switched off in the settings however, it's probably the firmware that's causing the main issue imo
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where in the settings can be turned off fingerprint motion ?

luki2411 said:
where in the settings can be turned off fingerprint motion ?
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Not sure if it's just me or they've removed that option looks like it can't be removed but I surely that motion can't be the battery culprit. It has to be the firmware