Has anyone used these before on their P9? I've just ordered some as not been able to find a decent case I like.
They seem very reasonably priced compared to others.
Unfortunately I cannot post links yet.
Never heard of them, but would like to see pics. The dbrand skin I had came off on the top. The sticker layer above the camera is simply too thin.
I was going to get the dbrand one but I think they were about $20 for one. I shall post a couple of pics when they arrive, which hopefully won't be too long.
Hey Matt,
my phone has not arrived yet but I ordered from Xtremeskins too now because the skins are dirt cheap and look really promising. Also, when I watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YrK0rkbFRc the leather skin looks really nice and georgous.
Once I get my phone and applied the skin I will post pictures here. Also am looking forward to see your pictures.
Best
Kon
I've used a black leather skin from dbrand for a while now and I reckon it's made of a similar fabric (3M vinyl).
The texture and touch is quite nice and come as close as can be to genuine leather. The cut and fit from dbrand is astonishing though I couldn't tell for xtremskins.
My skins arrived. I ordered orange and red carbon look. The first impression was nice. They look good and feel even nicer. Applying them was easy with help of their videos on their website.
The fit: I would give it 99%. Only on the sim tray and on the logo (see pictures) it is a little unaligned. Nothing that gets in the way of the beauty of this skin.
It feels very nice and adds a good grip to your phone. Suddenly, I dont feel like it is gonna fall off my hands any second...thats good.
However, the glue is not the best. On the sides it just doesnt seem like it is sticking properly. I have to constantly press it down and align it again. If the glue was a little better Id probably give it a 10/10 but if I knew dbrand had a better glue Id buy them there to be honest. I will update my review in a few days, however, I feel like this wont hold for long..sad though
Some more pictures
update: I have to revise my previous statement, dbrand doesn't even offer protection for the sides on the P9...maybe I now know why
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Some more pictures
update: I have to revise my previous statement, dbrand doesn't even offer protection for the sides on the P9...maybe I now know why
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Here's how mine ended up;
imgur . com/a/B21ls
cutouts were pretty accurate, no issues with the sides
using that tpu case to preserve the skin and phone even more
Nice, thanks for posting the link. Since you also use a case it is a little different to my use case I think Anyway, looks good
Hey Kon,
Apologies for only just replying to your post now but not had the chance due to ill health. The Orange carbon one looks good in the pictures although I wasn't keen on how it looked on the phone. I have a white glitter one on mine which actually looks decent. The material on it seems to be thicker than the Orange carbon one. I did have an issue with keeping the corners down but as I now have a bumper case on it doesn't matter too much. I decided to leave the Huawei lettering covered just to keep a clean look on the back. I'll get some pictures of it put on here tomorrow as soon as I charge up my other phone.
Matt
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So I browsing at work today and surprised to find OEM TPU cases in stock at daydeal... ordered at work and hope for an early arrival.
will do a photo review when it arrives.
I got it in the mail today, and as promised, picture review.
I ordered the white one, 70H00391-01M, seeing that all the other colors are a bit too "colorful" (DayDeal or HTC America Accessories Store). It came in a plastic clamshell, and now onto the actual product.
Texture: Glossy Smooth... clean edges/seams... way better than some of the eBay TPU...
Fit: Tight fit, very EXACT. not going to slide around inside, not going to pop out.
Color: It's white, almost too white. Will be getting a black/smoked/clear if I see one.
I actually think this is one of the best manufactured TPU case I have seen so far. Clean seams and edges, exact dimensions. Plus, with the case, it is now A LOT easier to find that power button.
PRO: Makes the phone feels way more solid, amazing fit and finish, cutout placements actually make the buttons easier to find.
CON: White doesn't really match with this phone, no alternative color fit for professional usage. Will be getting black/clear/smoked if found.
Photos:
Thanks for reading!!
holy shiz thats nice.
Awesome, will probably getting the black one.
I want a blue one
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as I said before, I would be super interested if I find one with better color. One day, I was on HTC UK and saw that they have a smoked color one for IncS. Upon checking the P/N, it turns out that IncS and Inc2 cases share the same number, except for the suffix, which is usually designated for different colors. I decided to jump the gun and ordered one from expandsys. will post review when it arrives.
UPDATE on the white case: it was ruined after being in my jeans for a couple of times... the dye on my jeans killed it!!! never getting another white thing that would seem susceptible to dark colors
The white case makes it look like the perfect smartphone for a storm trooper.
Your pictures inspired me to grab the white OEM case. All of your notes are valid. It is truly a perfect fit, feels great in the hand (not too grippy, not too slick), and is VERY white. I do notice your jean dye comment, however since I rarely wear jeans this will not be a problem for me.
I also ordered the Incipio Feather case in Black. Overall impression is good. It fits great and matches the black on the Inc2 perfectly. It also comes with a screen protector included (which goes on perfectly if the screen is dustfree). The only reason I'm not recommending it is because not only does it not protect the top or bottom, it also does not do anything to protect the front surface. No lip at all.
And finally my first case for the Inc2 was the Seidio Surface case. It is a solid case and will serve many people very well, however I found it slightly too bulky. It made the power buttom sufficiently harder to press (HTC TPU case is more rounded near the power, allowing easier access).
So in the end I decided to keep the HTC TPU case with the Incipio Screen Protector. It provides full protection of the phone and will hopefully serve me well for the next year or so.
Here's some pics for the curious, which bear remarkable resemblance to OPs pics. ^^
aonbot .imgur.com/htc_incredible_2_tpu_case (remove the space, add html if necessary)
How easy is this case to clean off? I really love the way it looks but I don't want to be ruined the first time I wear a pair of jeans.
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as I said before, I would be super interested if I find one with better color. One day, I was on HTC UK and saw that they have a smoked color one for IncS. Upon checking the P/N, it turns out that IncS and Inc2 cases share the same number, except for the suffix, which is usually designated for different colors. I decided to jump the gun and ordered one from expandsys. will post review when it arrives.
UPDATE on the white case: it was ruined after being in my jeans for a couple of times... the dye on my jeans killed it!!! never getting another white thing that would seem susceptible to dark colors
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Hey there. Any update or pictures of the smoke color one from UK or has it not arrived still. Thanks.
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Hey there. Any update or pictures of the smoke color one from UK or has it not arrived still. Thanks.
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Ahh.... sorry about that... been busy with work. I promise to post new pictures tonight. My apologies.
UPDATED: Sorry it took so long... busy with life and work, working towards a promotion at the moment
I just placed an order today for the HTC OEM Hard Shell for Inc S/2.... will update when it comes in 1 week later
Thanks for the pictures and no worries about the delay. We all understand how life is.
In trying to figure out what accessories to grab. How do you like the smokeone? Looks pretty good. Looks like it blends pretty good.
I like tthe white one but I frequently wear dark denim bluejeans .. so probably not the best idea lol.
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Also if you can get a chance to post the link to the smoke case. That would be appreciated. Thanks.
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So here's my take on the smoked version:
It's the exact same sizing as the white one, it is good as ever when it comes to fitment. As far as the color goes, the smoked IMO is the best it could offer without looking too stuck out. Black would be too solid if slapped onto the phone, looking like a huge piece of black plastic. I think this smoked option is the best so far if TPU is what you are looking for.
As for myself, I am not too sure on TPU since I feel like it took away some of the phone's sexiness. Hence I am ordering the new hard shell to review next, **without knowing what exactly I am order, no pictures of the product were provided** should come in next week hopefully.
LINKS:
TPU - Smoked
http://www.expansys-usa.com/htc-incredible-s-tpu-case-tp-c570-217323/
Hard Shell
http://www.expansys-usa.com/htc-incredible-s-hard-shell-hc-c561-217324/
just bought a whole bunch of different tpu cases from daydeal site that the OP linked earlier in the thread. will post pics when they come in.
I've been looking through all the cases on the daydeal site and amazon and was wondering if anyone has any of these cases, and if so what they thought about them
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=53429&cat=5525
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=52803&cat=5525
I would get a TPU gelli, but I don't like the colors available and i don't like the checkered patterns..
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I've been looking through all the cases on the daydeal site and amazon and was wondering if anyone has any of these cases, and if so what they thought about them
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=53429&cat=5525
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=52803&cat=5525
I would get a TPU gelli, but I don't like the colors available and i don't like the checkered patterns..
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bought em bioth today. when they get in i'll let you know
I just got my white tpu case in the mail, and it's great. It fits more snug than any other cases for this price, and I can lay the phone facedown without worrying about scratching the screen.
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just got my cases in.
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=53492&cat=5524 - it's okay. similar to the incipio feather, but thicker.
and three TPU cases:
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=53429&cat=5525
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=52128&cat=5525
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=52803&cat=5525
the first two are both good, but the last one i don't like as much. it seems thicker and much more rigid. but yeah, like others have said, the TPU cases fit perfectly
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just got my cases in.
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=53492&cat=5524 - it's okay. similar to the incipio feather, but thicker.
and three TPU cases:
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=53429&cat=5525
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=52128&cat=5525
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=52803&cat=5525
the first two are both good, but the last one i don't like as much. it seems thicker and much more rigid. but yeah, like others have said, the TPU cases fit perfectly
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lol always buy from amazon buddy.
http://www.amazon.com/Hybrid-AquaFlex-Incredible-ADR6350-Yellow/dp/B004XJJQXG
http://www.amazon.com/Cosmos-Cover-Incredible-ADR6350-Machined/dp/B004ZWV9VS
Anyone seen these on eBay?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Black..._MobilePhonesCasesPouches&hash=item4ab0c62217
Not sure what to think, its basically the Hybrid EX, but a cheaer made version.
Anyone here tried them?
Yep I've got 2 made a review
Nice looks decent for the price.
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Looks tempting, but still looks rather thick and bulky :/
Also dont like the look/idea of where the case meets the back, and the gap between it....
Whats the lip like on these?>
Asin what comes over the front of the screen
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/20953364/-/Product.html
i got this one and perhaps it does get scratched and dirty easily it fits the phone perfectly and i have dropped my phone about 2-3 from about a meter on the floor and nothing happened so I couldnt be happier for that price
the picture at play.com doesnt really show the exact look of it, if anybody wants to I can take some photos of it.
Looks good. Just remember, you get what you pay for...
yeah could you take some pics please
very good for low price
Here you go!
I got them today, ordered them 2 weeks ago at eBay. (Got another one in blue, but it turned out that I don't like the colour that much)
The quality isn't that good, as you can see from the photos. Had to cut some excess silicone off with a small scissor.
I didn't like the glossy look so I decided to treat it with some sand paper and acetone to give it a matte look. I'm quite happy with that.
But you can't hear the click-sound when you push the power button; I guess the silicone over it is too thick. The volume buttons are fine.
Sorry for the probably worst camera and English skills.
Edit: FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU, what's going on with the photo size?!
Edit 2: Saved photos as attachments.
Just got delivery of mine this morning...
Pretty decent bumper for the money, I went for the all black. Have compared it to my Walnutt and compares very well expect for the cheaper material used meaning it doesn't look or feel as good as the Walnutt but hey, my Walnutt cost me around £22 where as this was just over £3.
Looking forward to trying both with my extended battery which is finally on it's way from Clove.co.uk
Hi,
I just got my SGS2 and wanted to order a case for its protection so I took a look around and found this from Astrobile. ( Google it, forum doesn't let me to post url ) It's pretty awesome on paper, cause i didn't get it yet, but I looking forward it is indeed cool.
They have a 1 plus 1 event now, so you can get 2 for a price of one. They also include 2 screen protector with it. It's Made in Korea.
Why is it Hybrid? Its made of plastic, but at the back of it there is a metal plate which "make your device looks slimmer". Imo it could also helps keep your device cooler. My SGS2 is getting real hot when playing constantly for an hour or more.
Im already excited about it, can't wait to get it! I will update when i get them, they said it will take about 10 days.
And the best of all, there is free shipping to worldwide. Of course you can take a Express Shipping, but that's not for free...
Arrived!
Hello!
As i promised, i will write a mini-review according to my first few impressions about the case when i get it, so here you are!
First things first, it has arrived fairly quick according to it was a free shipping. +1!
It has came in a pink plastic bag, nothing special. The package of the case itself is nice, suggests quality, +0.5!
The first problem face me when i actually opened the box and got the black case in my hands. I noticed it is kinda thick,-0.5, and has some shimmering material mixed in the black TPU, -1!!!. This is weird, but must be the Korean taste for beauty...OK.
The next thing I didn't like about thie case was it thickness, ok I already mentioned it, BUT the holes for the buttons are also that deep that they're hardly accessible. They could have made some "case-buttons" or I don't know the expression for that. -1!!! Maybe something like on this one.
The metal backplate also has some color transition from black to silver (mostly silver for a "black" backplate), and I don't like it. I have to give a -0.5.
Alright, enough of the CONs, let's see some more PROs. This case is not that bad at all. Its Sturdy enough, but still flexible so I can believe my phone is protected from small height drops (if not landed on the screen - tho the case has some edge which laps over the phone, so if you turn it face down, your screen won't be scratched, also the screen protector is there.) So this worth a +1! The touch of the material is good, less slippy then the phone naked, but still not as good as it could be. (Maybe my hands are just to small for such a huge screen and while im tryin to reach the other end of the screen with my goofy fingers it just wants to slip off of my hand. - So I won't give penalty on this.
The matte screen protector included is absolutely superb quality! It has a really nice touch, a colors doesn't distorted and it's free of any oil, fingerprints, +1. Tho I have to mention that on the website they were talking about 2 screen protectors will be included, this is a -0.5...
And of course don't forget about the extra case included with every purchase of this model from the color of your choice (even the same your ordered originally). They have black and white with various backplates.
I won't give penalty points on this, cause this was a gift
So, the thing is it is kinda the same as the black, since it also has that crappy shimmering thing mixed into the material, but it is less visible than on the black one. Backplate is the same aswell, weird color transition...But again, it was gift. So it is OK
The Verdict:
Summa Summarum, the case has finished with a +1 in its stash. My impressions is just confused as this rating.
I like it a bit, but I don't think I will stick with it too long. For a first case it's just perfect, since my main goal is just to protect the phone, and it does the job well. Tiny imperfections like the deep button hole is a thing i could get used to by time, not really a big issue.
Next time I will definitely go for a bumper-style case which preserves my phone's slick for factor, which I love.
Here you can see some high-res pics of the cases.
Hope you found my very first review helpful! Please press the "Thanks" button! Cheers I'm off...
P.S: This is my 10th post, let's celebrate :lol:
The phone + case look rather thick on the photo's. Is the mic on the upper side not covered? There is no picture of that.
TheWizardbc said:
The phone + case look rather thick on the photo's. Is the mic on the upper side not covered? There is no picture of that.
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Hey!
Thanks for the input! Yeah, sorry I forgot to mention that, actually I didn't even knew that is a mic also!
Returning to the topic, yeah the case also has a cut for the second mic too!
Can you please tell me what is it for?
the second mic
the second mic is use for the noise cancellation feature.
if you want a cheap and cheerfull hybrid case then look for a fake sgp neo hybrid case
if you want a more exspensive hybrid case look for genuine neo hybrid sgp cases
a fake one will cost up to £12 and usually start at about £6
real sgp cases will cost you £18-£22 and no less
iam using a fake neo hybrid at the minute as i broke my genuine one and its a pretty good case for the money , it fits standard battery and 2000mah battery , its lasted a good few months and has kept the phone pristine , it covers the phone well even with the 2000mah battery
they are the best hybrid case ive found and add minimal bulk to the phone , look good , fit nice , protects the phone from drops and if you buy a fake one you can get them for pretty good prices
That 'shimmering' effect looks nasty. It's good that you get a second case though.
i think there are better cases out there and at cheap prices, but in the bright side it does look nice.
The battery cover seems to be a potential weakspot on the phoen from reviews ive seen. Although that opinion has been mixed.
I saw these though andthought id share. I dont like using cases on my phones so thought some people might enjoy this also.
I bought a sleeve but I am also thinking about one of these just to sturdy up the battery cover. It comes with a front screen protector too!
anyone dealt with these before? ive only seem limited reviews. any input appreciated.
http://www.skinomi.com/sk11192-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-carbon-fiber-skin-protector.html
Is real carbon fibre?
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Not real for that price, if it is then that's a great deal.
real carbon fiber would be too rigid.
it does seem to be more rigid than a sticker, though.
the application video suggests using a hair dryer to apply it to corners and palces where the material must bend.
Id only put it on the battery cover, not anyhwere else. The contrast of my marble front, the silver on the sides and the black on the back will look cool i think.
heres a link to an example. This user used 3M stuff though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668187&page=4
post 31 and some subsequenet posts show some pictures
ddurandSGS3 said:
heres a link to an example. This user used 3M stuff though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668187&page=4
post 31 and some subsequenet posts show some pictures
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Direct link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27011411&postcount=31
I've done this with MANY devices, even used white carbon on my girlfriend's Captivate, and recommend using 3M Di-Noc over ANY of those gimmicky skins.... Even though the Di-Noc is much harder to go around complex curves, it holds up better than the 3M 1080 version, which is thinner and therefore more flexible, but also includes a glossier finish with a smaller carbon fiber weave.... 1080 trumps Skinomi, et al., so buy in bulk from eBay or wherever, and you'll get much more use out of it than just getting one skin that looks terrible and doesn't compare to real carbon fiber at all!
My 2 cents as someone who's been in the vinyl graphics industry for 10 years.....
^^ To each their own
I have a few products that have Skinomi's Carbon Series on them & they look great, corners suck a little but that was known.
Quick & painless
I went to autozone today to look for some of the stuff you suggested or similiar but they didnt have any.
i appreciate the advice but these skins already come cut to fit and with the holes in it. I went ahead and ordered one. They have free shipping and and the carbon fiber skin comes with a front glass cover. I wanted one anyway so its kinda two birds with one stone.
Ill post up impressions but itll be in july when verizon finally ships. I have a pile of phone accessories already for a phoen i dont even have yet lol
edit: Forgot to add - if you use the discount code "skinomi25" you get 25% off.
I ordered the carbon fiber package and it came to 14.98 with free shipping to US and canada
carbon fiber skins are totally worth it but the screen protector sucks cuz it has the rubbery feeling. To each their own though.
RMXO said:
carbon fiber skins are totally worth it but the screen protector sucks cuz it has the rubbery feeling. To each their own though.
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yeah ive never used a screen protector on any of my phones. I probably wont use this one either but it saves a few bucks if i decide to.
can you post some pictures of your skins on your devices???
but it looks nice though. Ahh there are already so many things that I wanna buy before my device comes !
I got my order in the other day just posting smoe initial intial thoughts (no SGS3 yet, damn vzw)
anyways the skin came attached to a adhesive backing that has 3M logo on it. So perhaps its the same material about psoted above. any way to tell?
it came with a wet application screen protector and all the goods to apply it.
it looks liek the right cut. im excited to try itout when my device is finally delivered.
Anybody who is interested in the Bear motion cases from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BVWJ94E/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
These are very nice thin and light hard case that will give light protection for your phone while still being stylish. My two case came in the other day (Black/Gray). I have not receive my One yet but the cases feel real nice in the hand. So if you are looking for a thin and light case, give these a shot.
Pics taken with my Nexus 4:
smooth3d said:
Anybody who is interested in the Bear motion cases from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BVWJ94E/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
These are very nice thin and light hard case that will give light protection for your phone while still being stylish. My two case came in the the other day (Black/Gray). I have not receive my One yet but the cases feel real nice in the hand. So if you are looking for a thin and light case, give these a shot.
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Hey smooth,
Thanks for the pics - are these textured on the inside? It seems they could cause scratching to the back and sides on the phone while being shifted around.
D3luSi0n4L said:
Hey smooth,
Thanks for the pics - are these textured on the inside? It seems they could cause scratching to the back and sides on the phone while being shifted around.
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Yes they have the same finish as the outside. It's hard to explain but it feels really smooth so I doubt its going the scratch the phone.
It actually feels a bit smoother on the inside. It's barely discernible, but it's there. My fingertips are well tuned, thanks to my woodworking.
It's a fantastic case, but offers almost zero screen protection. If that works for you, $6 from Amazon (US) can't be beat.
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Yes they have the same finish as the outside. It's hard to explain but it feels really smooth so I doubt its going the scratch the phone.
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CocheseUGA said:
It actually feels a bit smoother on the inside. It's barely discernible, but it's there. My fingertips are well tuned, thanks to my woodworking.
It's a fantastic case, but offers almost zero screen protection. If that works for you, $6 from Amazon (US) can't be beat.
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Appreciate the responses, may have to pick one up.
Picked up a green one for 5.99 with Prime shipping. I like it a lot, the texture is real nice, and it is a real tight fit so I dont think it will be moving around in the case, I have taken it on and off a lot in order to show people my nice aluminum phone., and have yet to notice any scratches though you do have to be careful taking it out of the case, as I said it is a tight fit. But Overall I really like the case, it really does offer almost 0 protection. It looks nice and feels nice. My one issue with the volume buttons are a bit difficult to press with it on and it kinda feels like it is something I could make if I had a 3d printer, very thin. Someone who is looking for a real protective case can look elswhere, this is almost all about style.
I just got my phone and this is how it look like in the black case:
Sorry for the poor lighting!
Very nice! I just ordered the gray one from amazon because my poetic borderline case is taking forever to ship. Hopefully this case will give just the right amount of protection.
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I ordered some myself the other day. Even though they haven't arrived yet, they look very similar to the ROCK Quicksand cases they made for the Galaxy S3, and HOX. I'm just not digging their logo on the back... I'll probably remove it somehow.
bought the blue one. coming in on monday
great thin case
I really like this case. The texture is superb and sublime. Just enough to barely feel. There are just a couple of things that could be improved to make this case perfect for me.
1) The lip at the corners is slighly recessed and the corners should wrap around the phone a bit more. Almost every time I drop a phone it lands on a corner and with this case it's possible the aluminum could take the impact.
2) Lose the SIM tray cutout.
3) I'd feel better about putting the phone face down if the lip was just a half millimeter higher.
4) Power button cutout isn't quite cutout enough. It should be like the usb cutout which is perfect.
5) Volume cutout is just a bit 'sharp'. I wish the edges were smoothed a bit.
That said, these are nitpicky items and more like suggestions I guess. I would endorse this product.
Galaxy S4 cases
New to the forum. Anyone has suggestions regarding cases for Galaxy S4? There are so many choices out there. Just got confused easily.
I used to have a Bear Motion wallet case for my note and loved it. They seem to have the same wallet case available for S4.
But, I really want to have something simpler this time around. Any suggestions for a snap on case?
Same quality and fitment as Incipio and Spigen @ only $5.99... You can't beat em!
I have the Bear Motion case in grey, and yes, it's definitely a nicely fitted, slim, grippy case. However, the rubbery texture DOES begin to wear off with time. The coating on the edges on the front corners of the case have begun to wear off, revealing grey plastic underneath. Fortunately, it does blend fairly well so it isn't much of an eyesore. Hopefully you'll be able to see what I mean from the attached picture.