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Hey guys,
Got my note 2 the other week and I can happily confirm it is by far the best device on the market.
From the seamless user experience to the outstanding battery life (full brightness + mobile data + frequent use = aprox 10 hours),
It is outstanding.
But...
I cannot help but notice the excessive grainy camera? Now I also owned the original Note and the camera was sharp and far from grainy,
I have attached an image of some keys on my keyboard, but excuse if this is not appropriate to test it on, can take more on request.
So is it just me ? some settings ? or anyone else noticing the camera to be grainy?
May help if you can post some note 1 vs note 2 comparison for the same photo...
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I have the same grainy camera on my Note 2 too can anybody put some light on this situation?
Ignore the image I posted above, its a poor example,
Take this one for instance, as far as I remember, the note never had such excess graininess than this...
Well we are already discussing in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1942786
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The_Rock
I thought I might start a thread for people who are getting or want to get the Xperia ZL coming from the Galaxy Note 2.
I myself just listed mine up for sell to pay for the ZL I could had last week but didnt know so I canceled it which I should not have
So Will you be switching from the Note 2?
Kind of "I selling my horse to bay an donkey" story! But maybe you can explain why?
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zmadaric said:
Kind of "I selling my horse to bay an donkey" story! But maybe you can explain why?
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Huh?
hyelton said:
Huh?
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What he meant is Galaxy Note 2 is better than the Sony ZL. I want to try one but but it is more expensive than the note 2. I am not a Samsung fan but I have to admit that No other smart phones can beat the Note 2 right now.
I just sold my note 2...going get xperia zl when it becomes available...
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I just sold my note 2...going get xperia zl when it becomes available...
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I sold mine a few days after I bought my ZL, Now to pay the credit card haha. I love the ZL! The Note 2 camera was way better though.
zmadaric said:
Kind of "I selling my horse to bay an donkey" story! But maybe you can explain why?
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Ha ha.. Sold my note2 as well in a heartbeat as soon I laid my hands upon the ZL. And I'm very happy with my decision.
Apart from the bigger screen & battery life on note2, I find everything else better on the ZL (which also doesn't have buggy emmc nor corrupts those 64gb SanDisk SDXC cards like note2/GS3 ).
Sold note 1 for zl tho.. Im quite satisfied. My samsung experience was horrible. Batt bloated 3xs for one year of usage. Cant waste more money.
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what? note 2 camera much more better?hyelton
jianlinooi said:
what? note 2 camera much more better?hyelton
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I think this camera is better than the note 2 camera
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Yes it is
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Camera wise, it seems out of focus at times... From my opinion, samsung is a lil bit better.. For now. Not sure bout you guys
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safuan7822 said:
Camera wise, it seems out of focus at times... From my opinion, samsung is a lil bit better.. For now. Not sure bout you guys
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It really depends on how u use it. If u like to simply point and shoot, I would say Samsung (note2/GS3) is bit better for day photography, but Sony is better for indoors & night shots. But, if you workaround (play with different modes/settings ), then Xperia camera beats Samsung's, whether day or night. I've had some decent shots with my note2, but some really good ones with the ZL. Having said that, I have no doubt that the camera hardware is much better in the ZL, but sony really need to fix the default high ISO preference (auto mode) & resulting loss of sharpness (due to over smoothening). Besides, I feel that Samsung camera software is zippier, with better optimised post processing, but always liked the colours (also details due to higher pixel count) captured by Sony more than by Samsung.
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It really depends on how u use it. If u like to simply point and shoot, I would say Samsung (note2/GS3) is bit better for day photography, but Sony is better for indoors & night shots. But, if you workaround (play with different modes/settings ), then Xperia camera beats Samsung's, whether day or night. I've had some decent shots with my note2, but some really good ones with the ZL. Having said that, I have no doubt that the camera hardware is much better in the ZL, but sony really need to fix the default high ISO preference (auto mode) & resulting loss of sharpness (due to over smoothening). Besides, I feel that Samsung camera software is zippier, with better optimised post processing, but always liked the colours (also details due to higher pixel count) captured by Sony more than by Samsung.
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Can you gives us some pointers on what mode/settings to use for best pictures in different sceneries.
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Can you gives us some pointers on what mode/settings to use for best pictures in different sceneries.
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I don't know about Dpk1's experience, but I've had better luck with getting good pictures switching to Normal mode instead of using the default Superior+ mode. I seem to be able to get the right exposure and focus on a consistent basis this way.
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Can you gives us some pointers on what mode/settings to use for best pictures in different sceneries.
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Try this. What I usually do is use the auto mode with auto flash at night/poor light, and Normal mode with ISO auto, hdr off, center metering, flash off in bright light. For indoors ISO 200/400, flash off, hdr off, average metering. For landscapes (in daylight), the scene mode "landscape" does a decent job. I'm yet exploring other options. I've also noticed that auto mode sometimes delivers quite good results even in daylight (its a hit or miss). Burst mode (mid) does provide crisp images in bright daylight. Sony really needs to improve on the post processing, i.e reduce & optimise its aggressive noise reduction. Hope it helps.
Iv been a Note 2 user since it came out and i have zero complaints..I wanted to give the ZL a try because i figured google wallet would work on an unlocked phone. When i got the ZL i was very happy. But the happiness didnt last long. I love the looks of the phone but there are alot of downsides that i experienced (which might not be what you guys experience).
First the size, im so used to using the big note 2 its hard to use something smaller even if it is only .5 smaller. its a big difference when you type and web browse etc.
2nd, google wallet doesnt work unless you root and tweak and tweak and etc..i want google wallet working straight out of the box since its an unlocked non carrier specific phone with nfc.
3rd, the signal on the ZL is not the greatest, it doesnt seem to get my wifi signal too well compared to my note 2 and it would be in hsdpa(+) mode in an LTE area sometimes where my note 2 would be in LTE all the time. also the LTE signal is weaker by one bar compared to my note 2.
4th, the screen is beautiful and crisp but the note 2 screen seems so much brighter and more vibrant, thats just my opinion.
5th, camera start up time is like 4 seconds..this is on the initial start up..from then when i close the camera and reopen it it starts up within 2 seconds which the note 2 does every single time.
6th, i compared the call quality to the note 2 since i heard the quality on the ZL was awesome. I heard alot of hissing noise when calling someone and during the call. I know that has alot to do with the network but when i called on the note 2 right after i get no hissing noise. its just a cleaner call quality on the note 2..much cleaner..for me
7th, battery. I knew going into this the battery wouldnt compare to the note 2 but my god the battery sucks..im to used to the note 2 lasting 2 days.
8th, the loud speaker sounds good but the note 2 speaker blows it away..there is a big difference in the speaker quality and music output
there were few other minor issues like the notification light bug which i got around and fixed it.. but those r the main ones..so im keeping my note 2 and selling the ZL..I hope you guys have a better experience with the ZL than me..i wanted to like this phone so bad but it cant beat the note 2 sorry guys.
I LOVE The size of my zl but its sitting in a box. I ordered a note 2 and should be here Monday. The value of the zl dropped big time. I paid 635 when it came out and I can't even sell it used for 500
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I Just ordered a Xperia ZL today - Will be here Tuesday - Paid $515 delivered to me - Put my Note II for sale online and locally.
The 1080p Screen and easier "pocket-ability" is what got me Interested - and the fact that I could get it for almost nothing after I sell my Note II.
It was an impulse buy as it was a good price and only 2 of them were available.
This thread has me wondering - I expect the battery life to be less - But I think I'll be happy with it.
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I Just ordered a Xperia ZL today - Will be here Tuesday - Paid $515 delivered to me - Put my Note II for sale online and locally.
The 1080p Screen and easier "pocket-ability" is what got me Interested - and the fact that I could get it for almost nothing after I sell my Note II.
It was an impulse buy as it was a good price and only 2 of them were available.
This thread has me wondering - I expect the battery life to be less - But I think I'll be happy with it.
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Battery life is definitely note2's forte (7hrs vs 5.5hrs screen time for me). But I am enjoying my ZL and certainly don't miss my note2 (sold). It's more portable & fits in pocket/hand better than note2. I'm much impressed with sony's build quality! Mine survived a 3ft drop (without case) on concrete floor with minor scratches on two edges, which note2 certainly wouldn't have imo. I think the call signal/volume is as good as on note2 (even louder maybe) on C6502. Camera launches faster than note2 within 1-1.5 secs from screen off/sleep (using camera button). Default sound quality (via headphones) is better on the ZL to my ears & speakers are loud enough (note2 was louder). I can't even think of going back to 270ppi AMOLED display after being spoiled by super crisp 441ppi Sony ZL's display! Reading text is much better on ZL, its like night and day for me !
Remember, every device has its pros n cons. So, don't be bothered and enjoy your new purchase!
Hi Guys
Im thinking of changing from G S5 to an M8 (S5 is Sooo boring to use, its just an S4 really), but I do like a good quality camera.. so Im just curious to ask ..
Is the camera as bad as the reviews say and have the HTC Updates improved it at all?
If you own an S5, how does the M8 compare?
Thanks
pretty silly reason to change a phone. S5 is as good as m8 so i suggest ,stick to it. Not really a upgrade and you will get bored of all phones , we all do.
and there are **** loads of comparison vidoes
www.youtube.com is your friend
I hate samsung and i bought m8 3days ago its the best phone i just love it pictures are awesome to specially in low light
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pretty silly reason to change a phone. S5 is as good as m8 so i suggest ,stick to it. Not really a upgrade and you will get bored of all phones , we all do.
and there are **** loads of comparison vidoes
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Its not really a silly reason at this point no... when you consider that Ive only had the phone 3 days, The Touchwiz overhaul is not as major as they promised and the videos on YouTube, which Ive watched many of, all seem to come from the first 4 weeks after release, of which most, not all, are from over excited fanboys or bought reviewers, and dont take into account the updates that have been pushed by HTC to date and if these said updates have improved the camera at all and also how the audio sounds without Beats Audio..
The S5 Camera, like the S4 LTE on release day, does have some focusing and noise issues in low light, but the youtube videos dont tell you that..
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I hate samsung and i bought m8 3days ago its the best phone i just love it pictures are awesome to specially in low light
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Thanks for the input
But its mainly the camera, so If anyone can help me please.. Has the updates improved the camera
If your just going to use the pictures on your phone or for mms this phone is great (I previous owned a S4 and a Z1). There's also a mod on here you might want to check out?
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There are entire threads about this topic, including one with dozens of pages of photos for you to look at, all tken with the M8. Whether the camera is good enough is completely subjective, so look at the photos it takes and see if they're good enough for you.
To the OP, I know exactly how it feels to currently be torn in middle between sticking with the S5 or M8.
Now as for my opinion, since I owned both phones, Im currently on and Sticking the M8.
I originally bought the M8 from TMobile new the day it came out. At first I was very impressed with the built quality and the smoothness of the UI on top of Android (Sense)
But after about 3 weeks of playing with it and taking lots and lots of pictures, I decided I wanted to give the S5 a try. So I ended up trading my M8 on Craigslist, even trade, for a Galaxy S5 in same new condition.
Now after playing with the S5 and using the camera to the fullest extent and my daughter Pre K graduation, I was very impressed with the Galaxy S5 camera. Like the Note 3 it had the same bells and wisles except with a higher pixel count and a couple more features added. But in comparison to the HTC One M8, the camera do seem to be "slightly" more sharper and more realistic looking.
BUT
With the big over haul in TouchWiz the phone seemed to lag here and there, and speaking of camera, during my daughters graduation Im taking lots of Pics and 1080p video, the phone started getting very wam and prompt a message that said "Phone Over Heating, Camera Disabled". So my camera was disable during the graduation so I missed a couple moments to take pics and record video. Phone cooled down and the camera was back working again......
Long story short, I ended up sale that Galaxy S5 for 450 and used that 450 to purchase my HTC One back from the guy I traded it to so now I have my original M8 back.
M8 is a overall better experience. After using the M8 yesterday at my sons 1st birthday party since he turned one year old, the pitcures tookedn with the M8 look pretty dam good.
Even got compliments while my camera was out by people looking at the view finder as we were taking pictures. Not to mention the UI being 100 percent smooth and I also found the battery to last a whole lot better on the M8 vs the S5.
So thats my 2 cents! Hit me up on twitter if you have any comments or questions. @FiberOpticsRLD
Honestly getting fed up with this bs now. The camera on both the m7 and the m8 is perfectly good and takes good clear pictures. If you want crap hot photos that you can blow up to the size of house, I say go and buy an expensive camera.
This 4 mega pixel comparison bollox is a load of crap. They are ULTRA pixels NOT megapixels. Just like hd and uhd.
After using both phones, I can deffinetly say that both the M7 and the M8 take excellent pic and video in low light conditions.
From what I understand with the pixel count being lower, this allows for more light to be picked up.
i'm switching to the M8 from the S5 as well. S5 is a fine phone but the occasional lag is enough to annoy me.
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i'm switching to the M8 from the S5 as well. S5 is a fine phone but the occasional lag is enough to annoy me.
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Yeah, after using the M7 -> Note 3 -> M8 - >S5 -> M8
I started to notice the high quality of HTC not only in the physicall hardware itself being the case of the phone and the screen and loud speakers, but I also started to see how the high quality of HTC Sense is vs TouchWiz. Even when compared to the skin on the LG G2 and other LG phones, the HTC Sense skin is just very light and optimized.
Deffinetly glad I was able to get my original purchased M8 back from Craigslist before it got traded off too far in the Craigslist world LOL.
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After using both phones, I can deffinetly say that both the M7 and the M8 take excellent pic and video in low light conditions.
From what I understand with the pixel count being lower, this allows for more light to be picked up.
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They are bigger better pixels therefore more light and more detail captured per pixel .
Hi friends.
I currently own a Nexus 4 and I have loved this device for a REALLY long time. However, now I think its time to upgrade. My upgrade is due to the following 4 reasons ONLY.
1) Screen Size. I want a bigger screen size than my N4
2) Available Memory. 16 GB. Every now and then its full. Cant expand. I take lotsa pictures and videos.
3) Camera. MAJOR REASON. Oh I hate my phone whenever I open the camera app. The camera itself is just plain pathetic. It just cant focus AT ALL. The pictures are 95% of the times blur. No my hands are not shaky. But this phone requires your hands to be trained on a snipper perhaps. And the pics are always dull, without life.
4) Battery. Need to charge it quite a lot. Although I am not a heavy user at all. But KitKat has ruined the phone. Moreover, I do NOT play games at all and never use data. If it had a removable battery, I would have easily charged the extra battery and use it on the go.
Earlier I was thinking abt LG G Pro but now I am thinking of Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Neo. So picking SGN3Neo for the following reasons:
1) First and foremost, Price. It has dramatically slashed. It now costs $380, unlocked.
2) Camera. I dont know but have read in the reviews that it's not on par with S4, however it miles better than N4. I mostly CROP images and stuff, so it is good for cropping? How's video/pics in night? Blur? or Clear?
3) Battery. Again, tech site and customers reviews say it is awesome. And ya, its removable. Lets say if it fails in a couple of year, i can easily buy one and replace it.
4) It's got a micro SD card slot upto 64 Gig. So memory shouldn't be a problem.
5) I think 720p should be fine, considering it has AMOLED display.
6) OTG, for even more space.
Prices of other phones in my country.
LG G2: $440
LG G Pro: $280
Galaxy S4: $450
OnePlus One: *ock Teaser (not interested)
As you can see, almost all these phones are priced quite above Neo 3, so I am toooo inclined towards the Neo as it has decent specs. Moreover, I don't much care about Android updates. But still would want to know, have you guys gotten KITKAT? As MANYY users are reporting firmware issues and other day-to-day issues with the phone. Like: phones shows full signals, regardless sim is inserted or not. Or, screen flickering issues. etc
I would request you guys to let me know how the camera is. The camera is very important for me, so please tel me your experiences. And is there any other flaw you guys found with the Neo 3 that you suggest me not opting for it?
And ya does ti lag badly? Say like S3? (The only reason I have hated samsung phones is, LAG. Please tell me does it lag after a while?
, once the phone is filled with lotsa apps and media?
TL;DR... Want to upgrade from N4 to SGN3 Neo. Please suggest.
1. Got mine for around $360 unlocked, great value.
2. The camera is great. Video is superb. Low-light is excellent too. Having a little difficulty focusing on a macro scale though, well it's same for most devices too. The front camera is good as well, even for a 2MP.
3. Battery. 74HR Endurance Rating on GSMArena. Excellent!
4. Yep!
5. 720P S-Amoled. What looks bad on paper, actually looks great, in my opinion. I don't notice much difference having used a N3 before. Lower res = better battery life. S-Amoled means excellent viewing angles, deep blacks and good saturation!
6. OTG. Expansion much?
go for it. You have your concerns covered.
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1. Got mine for around $360 unlocked, great value.
2. The camera is great. Video is superb. Low-light is excellent too. Having a little difficulty focusing on a macro scale though, well it's same for most devices too. The front camera is good as well, even for a 2MP.
3. Battery. 74HR Endurance Rating on GSMArena. Excellent!
4. Yep!
5. 720P S-Amoled. What looks bad on paper, actually looks great, in my opinion. I don't notice much difference having used a N3 before. Lower res = better battery life. S-Amoled means excellent viewing angles, deep blacks and good saturation!
6. OTG. Expansion much?
go for it. You have your concerns covered.
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Thank you bro.
By the way, Samsung has just launched Neo 3 with Snapdragon 800 CPU and a subsequent GPU. Currently available in Korea only. I am sure it will make it to other countries too. Do you think I should wait a little longer and grab that one? It's available in Korea since Mar 3rd, however, I couldn't find even its model number on internet, so that I may ask the store here in my city to get one. Plus, its not even mentioned on eBay or Amazon :s
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Thank you bro.
By the way, Samsung has just launched Neo 3 with Snapdragon 800 CPU and a subsequent GPU. Currently available in Korea only. I am sure it will make it to other countries too. Do you think I should wait a little longer and grab that one? It's available in Korea since Mar 3rd, however, I couldn't find even its model number on internet, so that I may ask the store here in my city to get one. Plus, its not even mentioned on eBay or Amazon :s[/QUOTE
i think samsung is not planning to release the 800 worldwide.exclusive only in korea.
my only opinion why u should go for the note 3 neo is the battery life.i have used n4 and sold my n5 for the note 3 neo.
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filthykid said:
Thank you bro.
By the way, Samsung has just launched Neo 3 with Snapdragon 800 CPU and a subsequent GPU. Currently available in Korea only. I am sure it will make it to other countries too. Do you think I should wait a little longer and grab that one? It's available in Korea since Mar 3rd, however, I couldn't find even its model number on internet, so that I may ask the store here in my city to get one. Plus, its not even mentioned on eBay or Amazon :s
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i think samsung is not planning to release the 800 worldwide.exclusive only in korea.
my only opinion why u should go for the note 3 neo is the battery life.i have used n4 and sold my n5 for the note 3 neo.
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They will. I mean all these phones, regarldless of their region of release, make it to almost everywhere. But I was wondering, is QS 800 THAT good than the Exynos Hexacore that I should wait?
If there is a difference of lets say, 20% even, I am pretty much OK with it.
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They will. I mean all these phones, regarldless of their region of release, make it to almost everywhere. But I was wondering, is QS 800 THAT good than the Exynos Hexacore that I should wait?
If there is a difference of lets say, 20% even, I am pretty much OK with it.
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if you are sure they will then wait for the 800.for me its far better than exynos.
filthykid said:
They will. I mean all these phones, regarldless of their region of release, make it to almost everywhere. But I was wondering, is QS 800 THAT good than the Exynos Hexacore that I should wait?
If there is a difference of lets say, 20% even, I am pretty much OK with it.
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The Hexa Neo is a workhorse. The Snapdragon might/might not reach you. If it does, just pray it's bands would be supported. Also, the firmware might be least updated, and compatibility issues with the roms/tweaks/root that might be available.
It's your call though. :fingers-crossed:
filthykid said:
Earlier I was thinking abt LG G Pro but now I am thinking of Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Neo. So picking SGN3Neo for the following reasons:
1) First and foremost, Price. It has dramatically slashed. It now costs $380, unlocked.
2) Camera. I dont know but have read in the reviews that it's not on par with S4, however it miles better than N4. I mostly CROP images and stuff, so it is good for cropping? How's video/pics in night? Blur? or Clear?
3) Battery. Again, tech site and customers reviews say it is awesome. And ya, its removable. Lets say if it fails in a couple of year, i can easily buy one and replace it.
4) It's got a micro SD card slot upto 64 Gig. So memory shouldn't be a problem.
5) I think 720p should be fine, considering it has AMOLED display.
6) OTG, for even more space.
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I own a N3Neo and came from a Nexus 4. Pretty much everything you mentioned is a pro for the N3N3o against the Nexus 4. I love having access to a SD card again since I can load it up with music (I don't use the cloud since I listen to music on my commute to work and there are dead spots for cell service for me). Regarding the display, 720p o a 5.5 is perfectly fine.
As you can see, almost all these phones are priced quite above Neo 3, so I am toooo inclined towards the Neo as it has decent specs. Moreover, I don't much care about Android updates. But still would want to know, have you guys gotten KITKAT? As MANYY users are reporting firmware issues and other day-to-day issues with the phone. Like: phones shows full signals, regardless sim is inserted or not. Or, screen flickering issues. etc
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I own the Hong Kong version and I haven't had many problems with the phone. The stock 4.3 firmware is excellent. The only major issue I have is sometimes the radio doesn't pick up a signal when I go from a dead zone to a non-dead zone - turning on airplane mode and then off fixes it. Not a major annoyance.
I would request you guys to let me know how the camera is. The camera is very important for me, so please tel me your experiences. And is there any other flaw you guys found with the Neo 3 that you suggest me not opting for it?
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Camera seems pretty decent better than the N4. This is my first samsung phone so sometimes I notice when I take a picture, move the phone when it's "processing" the image, the saved image is not what I took, but during mid-motion. Odd.
And ya does ti lag badly? Say like S3? (The only reason I have hated samsung phones is, LAG. Please tell me does it lag after a while?
, once the phone is filled with lotsa apps and media?
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Almost no issues with lag and I've been using the phone since mid-April of this year. The hexacore Exynos+Mali T624 seems to keep the phone moving at a good clip. I have read some people have had issue with lag, but my HK region version has been great.
TL;DR... Want to upgrade from N4 to SGN3 Neo. Please suggest.
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Try it out! I have to say it's one of the best sub-$400 phones on the market right now - great price/performance ratio and you get all the Note 3 goodies in a cheaper package.
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Camera seems pretty decent better than the N4. This is my first samsung phone so sometimes I notice when I take a picture, move the phone when it's "processing" the image, the saved image is not what I took, but during mid-motion. Odd.
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try disabling smart stabilization
I have a problem with shealth application, the pedometer does not calculate the number of steps, it only gives the ability to synchronize with gear manager. is that it is normal???
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try disabling smart stabilization
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Tried it with and without digital stabilisation. . Nothing different.
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t3ch7 said:
I own a N3Neo and came from a Nexus 4. Pretty much everything you mentioned is a pro for the N3N3o against the Nexus 4. I love having access to a SD card again since I can load it up with music (I don't use the cloud since I listen to music on my commute to work and there are dead spots for cell service for me). Regarding the display, 720p o a 5.5 is perfectly fine.
I own the Hong Kong version and I haven't had many problems with the phone. The stock 4.3 firmware is excellent. The only major issue I have is sometimes the radio doesn't pick up a signal when I go from a dead zone to a non-dead zone - turning on airplane mode and then off fixes it. Not a major annoyance.
Camera seems pretty decent better than the N4. This is my first samsung phone so sometimes I notice when I take a picture, move the phone when it's "processing" the image, the saved image is not what I took, but during mid-motion. Odd.
Almost no issues with lag and I've been using the phone since mid-April of this year. The hexacore Exynos+Mali T624 seems to keep the phone moving at a good clip. I have read some people have had issue with lag, but my HK region version has been great.
Try it out! I have to say it's one of the best sub-$400 phones on the market right now - great price/performance ratio and you get all the Note 3 goodies in a cheaper package.
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Oh boy thanks for sucha long reply. However I already bought the phone last week and this was my best decision. Moveover I got 5 more buyers who bought it. . In family and friends.
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filthykid said:
Oh boy thanks for sucha long reply. However I already bought the phone last week and this was my best decision. Moveover I got 5 more buyers who bought it. . In family and friends.
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Haha, yea, after posting and seeing your signature, I was like "ohhh, the person already bought the Neo." haha. I'm really loving the phone even though sometimes I feel like it's a tad too big and also I wish it had LTE support in the US.
@hakz - Turning smart stabilization off worked! I don't see the "processing" status bar anymore after taking a pic.
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Haha, yea, after posting and seeing your signature, I was like "ohhh, the person already bought the Neo." haha. I'm really loving the phone even though sometimes I feel like it's a tad too big and also I wish it had LTE support in the US.
@hakz - Turning smart stabilization off worked! I don't see the "processing" status bar anymore after taking a pic.
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Oh I can't tell you how much I am loving this BIG screen. It's like I just bought myself an aeroplane haha. And that S-pen! Gosh it's a KILLER. No doubt the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Neo is an amazing amazinggg experience. Moreover, I don't understand the hate people have against TouchWiz. Coming from a Nexus, I know how it feels. You go crazy and jump around, when you get an android update and in real life usage, what you get IS, a new interface of the dialer, which apparently is a knock of of Windows UI. Nexus, always left me with desires... the desires of MOST simplest things which Google doesn't care much about.
BDW I am still getting those blurry images even after disabling the Image Stabilization. One of the biggest problems with Nexus Camera (apart from insanely pathetic cam quality) was, I had to keep my hands ROCK and STEADY to take a clear pic... else pictures used to come out blurry. I am seeing this somewhat in this phone too. Samsung has the best cameras in cell phones since ages. Wasn't expecting this. What's your firmware? Let me compare with mine.
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Oh I can't tell you how much I am loving this BIG screen. It's like I just bought myself an aeroplane haha. And that S-pen! Gosh it's a KILLER. No doubt the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Neo is an amazing amazinggg experience. Moreover, I don't understand the hate people have against TouchWiz. Coming from a Nexus, I know how it feels. You go crazy and jump around, when you get an android update and in real life usage, what you get IS, a new interface of the dialer, which apparently is a knock of of Windows UI. Nexus, always left me with desires... the desires of MOST simplest things which Google doesn't care much about.
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I don't really have a problem with TW really in normal usage - I keep things simple on my phone. Three home screens, a few widgets and the quick toggles when you drop down the notification shade has everything I need quick access too. The button that brings you to more toggles I rarely use. I feel like keeping it simple helps when "migrating" from stock Android to Touchwiz - just don't bother with all the extra doohickies Samsung bundles. My only gripe is the unnecessary complexity of Settings, but thankfully there is a search bar to quickly search for setting that's buried somewhere.
On the Neo, TW barely lags if any which is really odd since playing around with the US version of the Note 3, GS4 and GS5 I noticed lag in touchwiz on demo models in stores (maybe cuz they're on for so long and people play around with them?). But, even so, on my Neo, a whole day of using it, no lag.
BDW I am still getting those blurry images even after disabling the Image Stabilization. One of the biggest problems with Nexus Camera (apart from insanely pathetic cam quality) was, I had to keep my hands ROCK and STEADY to take a clear pic... else pictures used to come out blurry. I am seeing this somewhat in this phone too. Samsung has the best cameras in cell phones since ages. Wasn't expecting this. What's your firmware? Let me compare with mine.
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The "blurriness" I was talking about was when smart stabilization is on and I quickly move the phone while the phone is processing the image the resulting picture is not what I took, but mid-motion. I just tried out taking some photos with smart stabilization on and off and the photos are noticeably blurry with the setting off. I'd say keep the stabilization on, take a picture with somewhat steady hands and then wait for the phone to finish processing the image to get best results.
Regarding firmware I am on N7505ZHUAND2 which is the latest firmware for the Hong Kong version - that's the region phone I was shipped.
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I don't really have a problem with TW really in normal usage - I keep things simple on my phone. Three home screens, a few widgets and the quick toggles when you drop down the notification shade has everything I need quick access too. The button that brings you to more toggles I rarely use. I feel like keeping it simple helps when "migrating" from stock Android to Touchwiz - just don't bother with all the extra doohickies Samsung bundles. My only gripe is the unnecessary complexity of Settings, but thankfully there is a search bar to quickly search for setting that's buried somewhere.
On the Neo, TW barely lags if any which is really odd since playing around with the US version of the Note 3, GS4 and GS5 I noticed lag in touchwiz on demo models in stores (maybe cuz they're on for so long and people play around with them?). But, even so, on my Neo, a whole day of using it, no lag.
The "blurriness" I was talking about was when smart stabilization is on and I quickly move the phone while the phone is processing the image the resulting picture is not what I took, but mid-motion. I just tried out taking some photos with smart stabilization on and off and the photos are noticeably blurry with the setting off. I'd say keep the stabilization on, take a picture with somewhat steady hands and then wait for the phone to finish processing the image to get best results.
Regarding firmware I am on N7505ZHUAND2 which is the latest firmware for the Hong Kong version - that's the region phone I was shipped.
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Is firmware region or country specific? I see different firmwares of note 3 neo with different people. Why is that
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does your neo camera focus well in the first place?
hakz said:
does your neo camera focus well in the first place?
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Yes. If you were referring to me.
filthykid said:
Yes. If you were referring to me.
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could you upload a resized sample photo? and another screenshot for the EXIF data of the photo itself :fingers-crossed:
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could you upload a resized sample photo? and another screenshot for the EXIF data of the photo itself :fingers-crossed:
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You are asking me to upload a "focused" pic taken from an 'auto-focus' camera? What will that prove to you? :s
Which would you choose and why?
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The answer depends on which forum you post the question
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Yeah, I figured as much. Was hoping to hear from people on the fence perhaps.
I think it depends a lot on how you use your phone and what your budget is. They both make phone calls, they both run all the same apps (mostly)...If you have the extra couple hundred bucks for the S7 edge and you want to use features like Samsung Pay and stuff like that then the S7 is awesome. But if you want to run something more open source like an AOSP based rom or Cyanogenmod and save a couple hundred bucks at the same time I think the OP3 is the best phone out at this moment. I haven't been over to the S7 forums but traditionally developer support for the Exynos has been pretty sucky, not sure if that has improved recently.
Really for the S7 Edge you are paying a premium for the "extra" features of Samsung's software. In my opinion there is way less of a reason to put custom ROMs on a Galaxy S phone anymore because since Marshmallow the proprietary software on the Samsung devices is actually pretty decent. But for tweaking, hacking, playing with firmwares the OP3 is top of the heap atm, at least until the new HTC Nexus' drop.
I ditched my S7 Edge Exynos because:
1. I never really liked its camera and all the post processing that it did to the photos.
2. I know reviewers say it has the best camera but I never really liked Samsung's decision to move to 12mp camera. I actually liked the camera of Note 5 best.
3. That physical home button makes navigation slower. OnePlus 3 got the buttons right and navigation is much faster.
4. Yes Touchwiz has become faster and I never experienced any lag, I still felt like I didn't really need all features
5. Note 7 will be out very soon and as you may know, Samsung devices lose value and become obsolate once new flagship comes out.
On the other hand, OnePlus 3 has just an average display and an average battery size (which I think that should have been bigger), however I still manage to get very close SOT to what I used to get with the Edge and Oxygen OS has been optimized really well. Also, I prefer the 16mp camera because picture detail is there even after zoom in. I also missed stock android and a device which I could root and still not lose warranty. At the end it is up to the user. Whether you like Touchwiz or stock android. I should should give credit to Oneplus 3 for using real metal, strong metal. Huawei used soft metal on the Nexus 6P and I couldn't stand that phone. Battery life was just average also.
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I have both as per my signature. The decision to change my P9000 for the Op3 as a second driver was more difficult than I thought. The sRGB update did it in the end.
The Edge was always going to stay.
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brickedvice said:
I ditched my S7 Edge Exynos because:
1. I never really liked its camera and all the post processing that it did to the photos.
2. I know reviewers say it has the best camera but I never really liked Samsung's decision to move to 12mp camera. I actually liked the camera of Note 5 best.
3. That physical home button makes navigation slower. OnePlus 3 got the buttons right and navigation is much faster.
4. Yes Touchwiz has become faster and I never experienced any lag, I still felt like I didn't really need all features
5. Note 7 will be out very soon and as you may know, Samsung devices lose value and become obsolate once new flagship comes out.
On the other hand, OnePlus 3 has just an average display and an average battery size (which I think that should have been bigger), however I still manage to get very close SOT to what I used to get with the Edge and Oxygen OS has been optimized really well. Also, I prefer the 16mp camera because picture detail is there even after zoom in. I also missed stock android and a device which I could root and still not lose warranty. At the end it is up to the user. Whether you like Touchwiz or stock android. I should should give credit to Oneplus 3 for using real metal, strong metal. Huawei used soft metal on the Nexus 6P and I couldn't stand that phone. Battery life was just average also.
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Disagree. The 12mp galaxy camera resolves more detail IMO despite the mp disadvantage. - Dont like the processing ... ? Shoot raw.
As to older Samsung's becoming obsolete ... Here in the UK the S6 series is still sold amongst the new line and it looks like it will continue to do so for some time.
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I have both as per my signature. The decision to change my P9000 for the Op3 as a second driver was more difficult than I thought. The sRGB update did it in the end.
The Edge was always going to stay.
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Disagree. The 12mp galaxy camera resolves more detail IMO despite the mp disadvantage. - Dont like the processing ... ? Shoot raw.
As to older Samsung's becoming obsolete ... Here in the UK the S6 series is still sold amongst the new line and it looks like it will continue to do so for some time.
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They still get sold of course but Samsung doesn't keep them top priority in the update list. Also I use RAW ehen I have my DSLR. I like my phones to point and shoot without putting too much thought into it. Glad you like the 12mp camera better though. I still prefer the 16mp cameras.
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I ditched my S7 Edge Exynos because:
1. I never really liked its camera and all the post processing that it did to the photos.
2. I know reviewers say it has the best camera but I never really liked Samsung's decision to move to 12mp camera. I actually liked the camera of Note 5 best.
3. That physical home button makes navigation slower. OnePlus 3 got the buttons right and navigation is much faster.
4. Yes Touchwiz has become faster and I never experienced any lag, I still felt like I didn't really need all features
5. Note 7 will be out very soon and as you may know, Samsung devices lose value and become obsolate once new flagship comes out.
On the other hand, OnePlus 3 has just an average display and an average battery size (which I think that should have been bigger), however I still manage to get very close SOT to what I used to get with the Edge and Oxygen OS has been optimized really well. Also, I prefer the 16mp camera because picture detail is there even after zoom in. I also missed stock android and a device which I could root and still not lose warranty. At the end it is up to the user. Whether you like Touchwiz or stock android. I should should give credit to Oneplus 3 for using real metal, strong metal. Huawei used soft metal on the Nexus 6P and I couldn't stand that phone. Battery life was just average also.
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Oneplus's updates take even longer than samsung, even though they only have 3 devices to update. Samsung has hundreds and they still manage to push updates
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
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I think if you get the oneplus at this moment you're going to regret your decision. the release of the next nexus isn't far off. By that time your oneplus wouldn't be worth much.
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Oneplus's updates take even longer than samsung, even though they only have 3 devices to update. Samsung has hundreds and they still manage to push updates
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I think if you get the oneplus at this moment you're going to regret your decision. the release of the next nexus isn't far off. By that time your oneplus wouldn't be worth much.
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It is open source. Doesn't matter when official releases come from OnePlus. Also Nexus release is 3 months away. Too long until then. By the way, Oneplus phones keep market value better than any android smartphone I have noticed.
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It is open source. Doesn't matter when official releases come from OnePlus. Also Nexus release is 3 months away. Too long until then. By the way, Oneplus phones keep market value better than any android smartphone I have noticed.
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It's open source but not everything works without the official firmware. Maybe it does hold its value bit it's not an easy sell.
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It's open source but not everything works without the official firmware. Maybe it does hold its value bit it's not an easy sell.
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You actually got a point about the not bring easy sell part lol. I keep changing phones everytime a new one comes out. Will see how long it takes me to get tired of the Oneplus 3. I know that I am always excited about Samsung phones, but then they feel nothing special. I am sure I would have sticked to Nexus 6P if battery wasn't so poor due to the SD810 processor or the cheap metal they used to build that phone.
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I left the s7 for the op3 not a single regret
I never owned an S7...but I just wanna say I've been getting daily comments/compliments on my OP3
It's a really well built, good looking phone...lol
People are all intrigued when they see it
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You are in a oneplus 3 forum. If you want a locked bootloader unless you get the international version then get the s7. If you want a phone that is a pain in the ass to root and unstable after you root it then get a s7. If you want a gangster ass phone with 6gb of ram and the best developer support that I've ever seen then get the oneplus 3
I have got Galaxy S7... +Gear VR..
I'm thinking about OP 3..but I live my Galaxy S7...
If we get Miui on it,(my god) S7 be the best phone ever...
I think I will wait for the next Nexus....
Guys, S7 Edge is totally different from the S7.
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Hold onto your s7 edge once the nexus gets released trade it for that. Someone out there will want to move from a nexus to an s7 edge but I sure you no one will want to trade their nexus for a onplus 3 lol
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Hold onto your s7 edge once the nexus gets released trade it for that. Someone out there will want to move from a nexus to an s7 edge but I sure you no one will want to trade their nexus for a onplus 3 lol
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Yeah by that time the S7 Edge will cost $400 while new Nexus will cost $600.
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Yeah by that time the S7 Edge will cost $400 while new Nexus will cost $600.
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I don't know how much it will cost by then but certainly more than a oneplus.
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I ditched my S7 Edge Exynos because:
1. I never really liked its camera and all the post processing that it did to the photos.
2. I know reviewers say it has the best camera but I never really liked Samsung's decision to move to 12mp camera. I actually liked the camera of Note 5 best.
3. That physical home button makes navigation slower. OnePlus 3 got the buttons right and navigation is much faster.
4. Yes Touchwiz has become faster and I never experienced any lag, I still felt like I didn't really need all features
5. Note 7 will be out very soon and as you may know, Samsung devices lose value and become obsolate once new flagship comes out.
On the other hand, OnePlus 3 has just an average display and an average battery size (which I think that should have been bigger), however I still manage to get very close SOT to what I used to get with the Edge and Oxygen OS has been optimized really well. Also, I prefer the 16mp camera because picture detail is there even after zoom in. I also missed stock android and a device which I could root and still not lose warranty. At the end it is up to the user. Whether you like Touchwiz or stock android. I should should give credit to Oneplus 3 for using real metal, strong metal. Huawei used soft metal on the Nexus 6P and I couldn't stand that phone. Battery life was just average also.
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#2 is same as me, Note 5 and Lg g4/g5 are superior cameras imo. The s7's processing is horrible