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[Q] Newbie with security concerns

Hi,
I just bought the lg g3 d852 in Canada. It's my first smart phone and I'm concerned with apps requiring so many permissions. I know appops is no longer open on 4.4.2. Have to root to control apps but voids warranty.
Is there an easy way to remove root if I need warranty work?
Does installing appops after root work well enough to control permssions on apps?
What other security measures can I use? I downloaded Eset trial for android. But is there anything else?
Is there a way to provide proper security in general and also from the apps wanting permission without rooting?
Thank you!

Mechif said:
Hi,
I just bought the lg g3 d852 in Canada. It's my first smart phone and I'm concerned with apps requiring so many permissions. I know appops is no longer open on 4.4.2. Have to root to control apps but voids warranty.
Is there an easy way to remove root if I need warranty work?
Does installing appops after root work well enough to control permssions on apps?
What other security measures can I use? I downloaded Eset trial for android. But is there anything else?
Is there a way to provide proper security in general and also from the apps wanting permission without rooting?
Thank you!
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i cant understand why you worry so much about the permissions. If you re so afraid you can login with fake accounts and just dont put any personal information.
To unroot you have to flash back to stock. Autoprime who has developed purple drake root has posted here hot to restore back to stock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54254062&postcount=2

Mechif said:
Hi,
I just bought the lg g3 d852 in Canada. It's my first smart phone and I'm concerned with apps requiring so many permissions. I know appops is no longer open on 4.4.2. Have to root to control apps but voids warranty.
Is there an easy way to remove root if I need warranty work?
Does installing appops after root work well enough to control permssions on apps?
What other security measures can I use? I downloaded Eset trial for android. But is there anything else?
Is there a way to provide proper security in general and also from the apps wanting permission without rooting?
Thank you!
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If you worry about your personal information being out there in 2014 there is one way you can't stop that. DON'T USE A PHONE or any device that connects to the Internet ?

katsika said:
i cant understand why you worry so much about the permissions. If you re so afraid you can login with fake accounts and just dont put any personal information.
To unroot you have to flash back to stock. Autoprime who has developed purple drake root has posted here hot to restore back to stock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54254062&postcount=2
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Thanks. I'm new at this. I don't understand what to log into and make a fake account? It's a concern of personal data accessible by apps that ask for too many permissions.
Can this be lessened somehow without rooting? What apps are good for security?

katsika said:
i cant understand why you worry so much about the permissions. If you re so afraid you can login with fake accounts and just dont put any personal information.
To unroot you have to flash back to stock. Autoprime who has developed purple drake root has posted here hot to restore back to stock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54254062&postcount=2
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Still_living714 said:
If you worry about your personal information being out there in 2014 there is one way you can't stop that. DON'T USE A PHONE or any device that connects to the Internet ?
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Thanks. I'm not looking for a nuclear solution of don't use the Internet then you dont have to worry about security. I'm aware that we are all at risk. I'm just looking for some solutions that work well to minimize the inherent risks on the LG G3.

Mechif said:
Thanks. I'm not looking for a nuclear solution of don't use the Internet then you dont have to worry about security. I'm aware that we are all at risk. I'm just looking for some solutions that work well to minimize the inherent risks on the LG G3.
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its not really a risk. almost every app asks for some shady permissions. the only way to protect yourself is to not download them. other than that you cant do much

If you're willing to root, and are seriously concerned about this, install Xposed and XPrivacy. It can take some time to set up, but it's far more powerful than AppOps.

meyerweb said:
If you're willing to root, and are seriously concerned about this, install Xposed and XPrivacy. It can take some time to set up, but it's far more powerful than AppOps.
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Thanks. That's what I'm thinking of doing. I don't mind the way LG set up the launcher and software. If I root, does this change that? The only thing I don't like is I can't view the home screen and apps in landscape mode. I know there are launchers for that but I haven't found one I like...
Comments?

Possible Root Found??

Im sure im just getting overly excited and so i wanted a second opinion, but did CF-Auto Root release a root for the verizon models (SM-N910V) i went to the website and scrolled through model list and found one listed , i dont want to brick my phone or anything so could anyone tell me if this is correct, will this work with odin and root the verizon model note 4??
i appologize if this has already been posted or something, i could not find it so i thought i would ask? Thanks for any replies.

I think the build numbers are different
Sent from my SM-N910V using XDA Free mobile app

I believe that is for the DE (Developer Edition)

Pretty sure thats for dev edition
Sent from my LGLS990

And yet another heart breaks
Sent from my SM-N910V using XDA Free mobile app

that is actually extremely depressing...so will we ever even see root unless we get the dev version??

Yeah maybe when lollipop come out
Sent from my SM-N910V using XDA Free mobile app

I tried it and it just failed :crying:

scaryypanda said:
Im sure im just getting overly excited and so i wanted a second opinion, but did CF-Auto Root release a root for the verizon models (SM-N910V) i went to the website and scrolled through model list and found one listed , i dont want to brick my phone or anything so could anyone tell me if this is correct, will this work with odin and root the verizon model note 4??
i appologize if this has already been posted or something, i could not find it so i thought i would ask? Thanks for any replies.
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Next time check this thread first. This has been discussed in the last couple of pages and probably more. If the file isn't signed by Samsung it will not flash. It shouldn't brick it, it will just fail to flash. Been there and done that... I probably tried all the root methods available for kitkat 4.4.4 and none work for the retail version.

bickfordman said:
Yeah maybe when lollipop come out
Sent from my SM-N910V using XDA Free mobile app
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Root for Lollipop is MUCH more difficult, basically you need to find a way to get a custom kernel (and thus unlocked bootloader) just to get root in L. I wouldn't get my hopes up, at this point as a Verizon Note 4 owner I've given up all hope and just enjoy my phone, its still awesome.

People just repeat nonsense non stop, saying rooting lollipop is much more difficult without a LP image for the device is nothing but nonsensical. All rooting any device/os is the ability to find an exploit on the device. It has much less to do with what android. THE ONLY THING IT HAS TO DO WITH: Is finding an exploit in a stock system to hijack system permissions so u can then make changes to give you admin (ROOT) permission all the time. With an unlocked BL your are able to load your own software pre OS so you are not dependant on finding an exploit in order to get root in OS your options are much greater. And that's it, anything else is pure speculation, so us not having LP on our device you can not claim it will be easier or harder, an exploit is an exploit that's in. So keep the absurd comments coming. Don't bother replying to me because no reason for me to come back here to find more nonsense.

xxxtncxxx said:
People just repeat nonsense non stop, saying rooting lollipop is much more difficult without a LP image for the device is nothing but nonsensical. All rooting any device/os is the ability to find an exploit on the device. It has much less to do with what android. THE ONLY THING IT HAS TO DO WITH: Is finding an exploit in a stock system to hijack system permissions so u can then make changes to give you admin (ROOT) permission all the time. With an unlocked BL your are able to load your own software pre OS so you are not dependant on finding an exploit in order to get root in OS your options are much greater. And that's it, anything else is pure speculation, so us not having LP on our device you can not claim it will be easier or harder, an exploit is an exploit that's in. So keep the absurd comments coming. Don't bother replying to me because no reason for me to come back here to find more nonsense.
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just buy a developer edition and lollipop will be locked down tight apparentley you missed GOOGLE saying that

[Q] G4 Verizon the right Root ??

Ok I have been reading a lot of Posts on Root/Root unlock boot loader. I am a little confused with all of it. I am coming from a LG G2 to the LG G4 on Verizon
If I remember, I rooted my G2 with iRoot. I am not someone that plays with roms. I am only interested in rooting my phone so I am able to use Hot Spot if needed, and a few apps like Titanium Backup. As well as being able to turn off some of the bloat ware.
(Q) - Am I able to Root my phone for the things I listed? Or do I need to wait for the wonderful DEV community to be able to unlock the boot loader?
Thank you

hd-renegade said:
Ok I have been reading a lot of Posts on Root/Root unlock boot loader. I am a little confused with all of it. I am coming from a LG G2 to the LG G4 on Verizon
If I remember, I rooted my G2 with iRoot. I am not someone that plays with roms. I am only interested in rooting my phone so I am able to use Hot Spot if needed, and a few apps like Titanium Backup. As well as being able to turn off some of the bloat ware.
(Q) - Am I able to Root my phone for the things I listed? Or do I need to wait for the wonderful DEV community to be able to unlock the boot loader?
Thank you
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There's nothing available ATM so we'll ALL have to be patient and polite
Sent from my G4 using your mom

Dennisg34 said:
There's nothing available ATM so we'll ALL have to be patient and polite
Sent from my G4 using your mom
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That does help, at least I didn't miss something with all of the posts I have read.

hd-renegade said:
That does help, at least I didn't miss something with all of the posts I have read.
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No worries, it hasn't even been a week since it's been officially released so it will just take some time.
Sent from my G4 using your mom

Dennisg34 said:
No worries, it hasn't even been a week since it's been officially released so it will just take some time.
Sent from my G4 using your mom
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I do understand that. Just so much info flying around, and with work and everything else, just not enough time to read all of it.
It is good to see people are working on cracking the egg so to speak.

I love root. It is pretty important to me. I have rooted every device I have ever owned (and many for many people). I value things like:
1. using deeper control of Tasker (GPS, airplane mode, etc.)
2. using deeper control of Root Explorer file manager
3. Using a root run firewall to block data access (versus VPN if no root)
4. Running AdAway to kill every conceivable ad I can from apps to websites (XDA is terrible w/ ads for example)
5. using root based exploits of other apps like Lightflow or backup utilities or call blocking tools (since you can only do 10 SMS/phone # blocks on VZW and they only last 90 days)
6. using root apps to freeze and delete bloat
7. and of course, having something like CWM or TWRP
8. Xposed!
With Verizon, I have watched it become more and more of a PITA. But I loved the specs of this phone so much, I took the leap praying root will come to us without any loss or damage of native functions.

So assume the exploit used by current AIO LG root tool is closed on the G4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-lg-firmwares-kitkat-lollipop-t3056951

speedingcheetah said:
So assume the exploit used by current AIO LG root tool is closed on the G4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-lg-firmwares-kitkat-lollipop-t3056951
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A simple search of "G4" in that thread reveals this answer...
No.
New G4 lacks ability to run scripts from this COM prompt. Still a work in progress

Lock-N-Load said:
A simple search of "G4" in that thread reveals this answer...
No.
New G4 lacks ability to run scripts from this COM prompt. Still a work in progress
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Bu there is a rootem stock rom for the g4 out....but for the H815 variant...what ever one that is...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development/rom-h815-10a-stock-rooted-rom-t3129036

speedingcheetah said:
Bu there is a rootem stock rom for the g4 out....but for the H815 variant...what ever one that is...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development/rom-h815-10a-stock-rooted-rom-t3129036
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It's not Verizon related or capable - which is why we are here, in this thread, about..... Verizon

Flash prerooted ROM without having recovery?

Hi there,
A while back I updated my already rooted Z1C to the newest firmware 14.6.A.1..236 via PC Companion. I thought it was just a minor update so I did not think of losing my root access
As far as I know all I can do now in order to get back my lovely root privileges is by going back to Kitkat, install Dualboot Recovery, put my pre rooted Android on my phone and flash it.
So here is my question:
Is there any fancy way of doing this more directly? I would much prefer not having to fiddling around with backups, which may or may not restore all my data...
I would also be interested in why I can't just flash the flashable.zip directly onto my phone using Flashtool or similar. As an IT student I would really like to learn this kind of stuff
Thanks in advance!

Znert said:
So here is my question:
Is there any fancy way of doing this more directly? I would much prefer not having to fiddling around with backups, which may or may not restore all my data...
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You can get root with KingRoot app and then you can change it to SuperSu with this guide:
Code:
www.w0lfdroid.com/2015/05/How-to-Remove-Replace-KingUser-KingRoot-with-SuperSU.html
(I know that the guide is somewhere in XDA, but can't find it.) I have tested the procedure and for me it worked.

foguh said:
You can get root with KingRoot app and then you can change it to SuperSu with this guide:
Code:
www.w0lfdroid.com/2015/05/How-to-Remove-Replace-KingUser-KingRoot-with-SuperSU.html
(I know that the guide is somewhere in XDA, but can't find it.) I have tested the procedure and for me it worked.
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Thanks for your fast reply. However, after googling the App while the download was still going I found several articles which found the App not trustworthy. Trying to download the App from their site directly even gave my a very clear warning. So I'd rather use something else :/
I think the best reasons against the App can be found here:
https://www.quora.com/Is-KingRoot-the-one-tap-Chinese-rooting-app-legit-and-safe
If, however, a more experienced and credible user (sorry foguh, this is nothing personal ) can recommend the App as well, I might give it a shot...

Znert said:
If, however, a more experienced and credible user (sorry foguh, this is nothing personal ) can recommend the App as well, I might give it a shot...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/one-click-root-tool-android-2-x-5-0-t3107461
There are 381 pages about KingRoot, I am not entirely sure is it only about people begging for specific root methods, but I believe there could be some convincing posts about it. And I don't trust KingRoot that much myself, that is why I included the post how to replace KingRoot with SuperSu.
Nothing taken personally though, just trying to provide solution for you, which worked for me

I am still unsure of the App but as it seems to be the easiest option I installed it and rooted my phone with it.
Everything went quite smoothly. One thing I really didn't like however is the required internet connection during rooting. Normally this tells me immediately that its fetching some malware and I get my hands off...
Of course I also immediately replaced their App with SuperSU but I am still worried it might placed more on my phone than it claims.... Let's hope for the best
Anyhow, thanks a lot to you foguh! It's really nice to get so quick and helpful responses and I appreciate the effort
Have a nice day/evening/morning/night/...

Znert said:
One thing I really didn't like however is the required internet connection during rooting. Normally this tells me immediately that its fetching some malware and I get my hands off...
but I am still worried it might placed more on my phone than it claims....
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Glad I could help!
As far as I am aware, the internet connection during rooting process is for fetching the correct root method for the phone (and that damn Purify app.)
But if you are worried that there could be some other leftovers, you can monitor the network traffic of your phone to be 100% sure. And of course go through the files manually. (Personally, I haven't bothered to do it, I trust people too much)
The easiest way to say "Thanks!" is to hit the button below!

[A5 2017] to root or not to root

Hi guys,
Just came from a rooted OnePlus X and looking for some advice.
One of the first things I noticed using the A5 are the ads. Being used to no ads this is becoming annoying.
So I'm considering the pros and cons of rooting.
Pros are obvious but I might miss some cons.
Knox will be tripped when installing Trwp. Besides being tripped, are there any downsides? Will it have effect when reverting to stock?
I owned a Tab10 which would show a big yellow triangle when booting. Is this still the case?
Triangle away is no longer an option
Any other cons I'm missing except for the warranty?

You can use DNS66 from F-Droid to block ads without rooting (it uses a local on-device VPN connection to accomplish this).

lejohn said:
Hi guys,
Just came from a rooted OnePlus X and looking for some advice.
One of the first things I noticed using the A5 are the ads. Being used to no ads this is becoming annoying.
So I'm considering the pros and cons of rooting.
Pros are obvious but I might miss some cons.
Knox will be tripped when installing Trwp. Besides being tripped, are there any downsides? Will it have effect when reverting to stock?
I owned a Tab10 which would show a big yellow triangle when booting. Is this still the case?
Triangle away is no longer an option
Any other cons I'm missing except for the warranty?
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Once Knox tripped there is no return... warranty will be lost.
What I did is to have root and just install AdHell2 (https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/themes/adhell-2-rootless-ad-blocking-t3663559)...

jolas said:
Once Knox tripped there is no return... warranty will be lost.
What I did is to have root and just install AdHell2 (https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/themes/adhell-2-rootless-ad-blocking-t3663559)...
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Thanks, I'll give it a try.

What ads are we talking about? I haven't seen any so far.

Sn0w0nS said:
What ads are we talking about? I haven't seen any so far.
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Any ads, in any application. He wants to use a low level domain filter to stop apps and webpages from reaching their ad service providers.

I'm new on Samsung. Got A520W on Nougat a few days ago and considering root too. I read people using Magdsk but not sure if it will work on Nougat. Reason I wanna root is to install Xposed, custom kernel and recovery.

kenship said:
I'm new on Samsung. Got A520W on Nougat a few days ago and considering root too. I read people using Magdsk but not sure if it will work on Nougat. Reason I wanna root is to install Xposed, custom kernel and recovery.
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It will work. U just need to flash twrp through odin a install magisk. Before that,check if u have oem unlock.

BlasterSK said:
It will work. U just need to flash twrp through odin a install magisk. Before that,check if u have oem unlock.
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I come from LG so I'm new to Samsung. I used app to root and install superuser then used flashify to install TWRP.
OEM Unlock is already set to On.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I use magisk to root, then install TWRP using odin.

Dont worry, im coming from lg device aswell.
Before the root, consider if u want really to root your device, because u will loose your warranty.
U need to download zip file of magisk 13.3,put it to the storage/sd card and then flash twrp through odin. Once u did that, u will flash magisk .zip file in twrp.
Complete tutorial here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sa...ficial-nougat-release-download-guide-t3654413

BlasterSK said:
Dont worry, im coming from lg device aswell.
Before the root, consider if u want really to root your device, because u will loose your warranty.
U need to download zip file of magisk 13.3,put it to the storage/sd card and then flash twrp through odin. Once u did that, u will flash magisk .zip file in twrp.
Complete tutorial here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sa...ficial-nougat-release-download-guide-t3654413
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Thanks! I did some research today and finally come to know what odin, magisk is about.
I'll certainly consider the pros and cons before making the move. For now I don't see kernel for nougat yet so maybe root is not most important. Xposed is another one but only to allow youtube background play, other than that, maybe some actions provided by secure setting and ad block. Thanks for the guide!

kenship said:
Thanks! I did some research today and finally come to know what odin, magisk is about.
I'll certainly consider the pros and cons before making the move. For now I don't see kernel for nougat yet so maybe root is not most important. Xposed is another one but only to allow youtube background play, other than that, maybe some actions provided by secure setting and ad block. Thanks for the guide!
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No problem mate. Glad to help u.
I dont think its worth to lose warranty because of the root. But its everybody decision. On the other hand,root is a good thing and it will let u do whatever u want with the device. If u need AdBlock,i can reccomend u Adhell2,which is rootless ad blocker and it is working fine. Atleast for me. And if u meant custom nougat kernel,then there is a one.
Link for the kernel: https://forum.xda-developers.com/samsung-a-series-2017/development/kernel-alphabet-kernel-t3697372

Wow thanks! Will take a look. On warranty, I thought Odin can take me back to stock firmware and therefore allowing OTA and for warranty, am I wrong?
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kenship said:
Wow thanks! Will take a look. On warranty, I thought Odin can take me back to stock firmware and therefore allowing OTA and for warranty, am I wrong?
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You could put it back to stock and get OTAs, yes.
But when you unlock the bootloader it trips a physical circuit inside the device which makes it impossible to trick Samsung into giving you warranty. There's a tiny fuse that burns out when you unlock the bootloader that prevents you from ever changing the unlock status back to official.

lejohn said:
Hi guys,
Just came from a rooted OnePlus X and looking for some advice..........
Triangle away is no longer an option
Any other cons I'm missing except for the warranty?
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My advice don't root. Not yet. Give it at least a year.
I was a flashoholic/rootaholic. Not anymore. Recently bought a5 2017 (dual sim). My primary reasons for rooting(previous devices) were themes+viper4android+firewall. Nowadays we have almost at par (90%) solutions without root. Another reason was to save some battery life. But our a5 2017 is pretty good at it by default. Also dont forget secure folder+samsung pay+ any future updates or similar. This r my opinions. BUT you may have different priorities. Thanks for reading.

Looks we have similar requirements for root. But I do not want root to brick functionalities like you mentioned.
Theming was not available in LineageOS but I have an S7 from work which has a nice theming engine which made me choose for the A5 12107 as personal phone.
Only thing I was missing was the ad blocking. AdHell seems to do a nice job on this so for now no need to root. If it could also block the youtube adds it would be perfect.
Did you tackle this?

matesurano said:
My advice don't root. Not yet. Give it at least a year.
I was a flashoholic/rootaholic. Not anymore. Recently bought a5 2017 (dual sim). My primary reasons for rooting(previous devices) were themes+viper4android+firewall. Nowadays we have almost at par (90%) solutions without root. Another reason was to save some battery life. But our a5 2017 is pretty good at it by default. Also dont forget secure folder+samsung pay+ any future updates or similar. This r my opinions. BUT you may have different priorities. Thanks for reading.
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Absolutely agree with every word! I was also flashoholic/rootaholic before. But A5 2017's firmware is bug-free (for me), that's why I don't need to do those root-thingz. For blocking some Ads on webpages I use Samsung Browser with extenisons:
Adblock Fast
AdBlock for Samsung Browser
Adblock Plus for Samsung browser
AdClear for Samsung Internet
Crystal
All these blockers are working at the same time, so if one doesn't filter Ad, another in order does. But of course, if someone wants to block in-app Ads, root is necesarry

lejohn said:
Looks we have similar requirements for root.Only thing I was missing was the ad blocking. AdHell seems to do a nice job on this so for now no need to root. If it could also block the youtube adds it would be perfect.
Did you tackle this?
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Well m not that much into YouTube. But the channels i browse are mostly ad free. But i think you might wanna check out adhell 2( never tried the adblocking part). It needs Samsung knox sdk license( easy to get...just follow google search). Apart from system wide adblocker it has a package disabler too. Also i heard about an app called youtube auto ad skip or something like that.....don't recall the name. Tell us how it goes.

I too will probably wait until warranty is gone. I'm able to freeze most of the apps that I don't use. Will be nice if able to ad block without using VPN. The Xposed Youtube background play is good but I guess I can live w/o it.

the root is not necessary for block the add in ALL app's.
you just install blokada ,the best adblocker NON ROOT!
for the app,search in xda or in google