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Hello everybody, I'm looking for a new smartphone to fit my needs. I actually own a Lg G Flex 2, and I'm unhappy with it. You may ask "why?". Well, because I'm very addicted to modding and all of these things. The locked bootloader etc. on the G Flex 2 made me really sad about this phone. Do you think it's worth to switch from a G Flex 2 to a Zenfone 2 (+ 30€)? Let me know, please. And most of all, this is not a "which one is better" so please don't argue too much. Thank you all!
My Opinion
gicifix said:
Hello everybody, I'm looking for a new smartphone to fit my needs. I actually own a Lg G Flex 2, and I'm unhappy with it. You may ask "why?". Well, because I'm very addicted to modding and all of these things. The locked bootloader etc. on the G Flex 2 made me really sad about this phone. Do you think it's worth to switch from a G Flex 2 to a Zenfone 2 (+ 30€)? Let me know, please. And most of all, this is not a "which one is better" so please don't argue too much. Thank you all!
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My Opinion
1) If you want to buy Zenfone 2 then I suggest you to buy 4GB Ram version Only.
2) If you are interested in latest android only then go for Nexus (e.g: Nexus 5X)
3) 4GB RAM versions are also available in Oppo,Vivo,etc. (Search for it)
4) In Sony you can get waterproof smartphone. (Search)
Some Mid Range Great Smartphones:-
1) Lenovo Vibe X3
2) Samsung Galaxy A8
3) Huawei Honor 7
4) Nexus 5X
5) Nexus 6
6) Sony Xperia M5 Dual
7) Sony Xperia Z3+
8) One Plus 2
9) VIVO X5 PRO
10) and of course ASUS Zenfone 2.
But do whatever you want to do...
The Zenfone 2 is not going to knock your socks off, and I don't think it was ever supposed to. The Zenfone 2 is a nice hardware package (not big time, but nice) and the price tag on it is LESS than my first car. The development community seems to love this phone and we were promised android 6 this quarter. Just make sure you get the 4GB model, and don't make the mistake of ordering one online that seems cheaper than everyone else is offering one for (a lot, and I mean A LOT of people got hosed thinking they were buying the WW version, and instead got a chinese model that someone flashed WW software on it and can't get LTE). I ordered three of these from ASUS and all three work great. I love mine and this is the first phone that my son or daughter have not complained about, and they complain about EVERYTHING
gicifix said:
Hello everybody, I'm looking for a new smartphone to fit my needs. I actually own a Lg G Flex 2, and I'm unhappy with it. You may ask "why?". Well, because I'm very addicted to modding and all of these things. The locked bootloader etc. on the G Flex 2 made me really sad about this phone. Do you think it's worth to switch from a G Flex 2 to a Zenfone 2 (+ 30€)? Let me know, please. And most of all, this is not a "which one is better" so please don't argue too much. Thank you all!
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i'm in ur same position ...i have xperia sp with GREAT deve community ....but i need to move since it's very old now(2013 phone) though it runs 6.0.1 with no bugs at all
gonna buy zenfone 2 after a month (till my exams are finished ) and i searched alot like VERY VERY alot
screen : it's not brightest nor the best IPS display but for the price u can't complain
volume : as i saw it's not that great...it's somehow little loud but it's muffled and tiny
hardware : 4g ram and quad-core 2.3ghz equal to SD801 or SD805 with only 300$ ....u sure can't complain about that
and ofc it got a great deve community with great ROMs and good official cm13 base
In all honesty, there are better options, I would go with the nexus or opo, I'm sorry I purchased the ZenFone 2.
From the current user of Zenfone 2, don't waste your money for it, you buy it as it is, no one care after that, more update bring more bugs, Intel has abandoned Intel Atom mobile CPU so if we are lucky, Android 6.0 is the lastest android version we could have on our phone, and if we are not, we stucked with 5.0 forever :3
Still great value for the $. It's not perfect but it's very functional.
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Just buy a phone with Qualcomm inside instead of intel inside.
Thank you all for the answers!
What phone do you suggest for the future? I'm disappointed with Zenfone 2 ZE551ML 4GB, bad materials, bad support, ridiculous battery life and bad space management (phone is too big).
My priority are battery (not necessary a battery phone, but at least 6-7 hours of display), good camera (I want support for real slow motion, not the ZF2 one ) , good design (I would prefer a 5-5.2") and good software support.
My budget is 400€ and I need phones that I can found on Amazon (so don't suggest me phones like OP3 that are on Amazon at 100€ more).
Thanks
I was thinking about ZUK Z2 & Z2 Pro as my next phone after ZF2. Generally because it's smaller than 5.5" and probably should have similar performance.
This choice is made based on specifications from the web. I still need to check some reviews for this phone.
Maybe someone can say anything about this phone?
Or Galaxy S8 Edge + Gear Vr,, or nothing
maciek90 said:
I was thinking about ZUK Z2 & Z2 Pro as my next phone after ZF2. Generally because it's smaller than 5.5" and probably should have similar performance.
This choice is made based on specifications from the web. I still need to check some reviews for this phone.
Maybe someone can say anything about this phone?
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The problem is that these phones like Zuk, Xiaomi and these "not top" brands, are not selling officially in Italy and they don't support 800Mhz (band 20) for 4G LTE, used a lot here, expecially where I live and with my carrier..so I need a "more european" brand, to have full 4G support.
I am thinking of the 5.5 inch Zenfone 3. I have been very happy with my ze551ml.
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check elephone p9000 around 250$
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check elephone p9000 around 250$
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P9000 is not really better than ZF2, at least the 4 Gb version (unless you're badly looking for a fingerprint unlockable phone).
I used a P8000 before and although it's a nice phone, Mediatek processors are less powerful than other manufacturers' equivalent cpu's. If you take Antutu Benchmark as a reference (yes, we all know it can be faked, but it serves its purpose as a reference, and a way to compare two phones) P9000 scores between 45k and 47k, while my ZF2, which is the 1.8 Ghz version, scores between 55k and 57k. P9000 wouldn't be such a step forward, unless your ZF2 is broken beyond repair.
I'd stick to ZF2 until something significantly more powerful and affordable comes around. I've already seen some 6 Gb RAM phones, also with 128 Gb storage, but definitely not in the same price range as the ZF2.
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P9000 is not really better than ZF2, at least the 4 Gb version (unless you're badly looking for a fingerprint unlockable phone).
I used a P8000 before and although it's a nice phone, Mediatek processors are less powerful than other manufacturers' equivalent cpu's. If you take Antutu Benchmark as a reference (yes, we all know it can be faked, but it serves its purpose as a reference, and a way to compare two phones) P9000 scores between 45k and 47k, while my ZF2, which is the 1.8 Ghz version, scores between 55k and 57k. P9000 wouldn't be such a step forward, unless your ZF2 is broken beyond repair.
I'd stick to ZF2 until something significantly more powerful and affordable comes around. I've already seen some 6 Gb RAM phones, also with 128 Gb storage, but definitely not in the same price range as the ZF2.
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if you want upgrade 400$ i suggest xiaomo mi5s + or one plus 3
My current "short list" of devices:
OnePlus 3
ZTE Axon 7
Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe
LeEco Le Max 2
LeEco Le Pro 3
Xiaomi Redmi Note 3
Sony XA Ultra
Nexus 6
Motorola Moto X Pure
I sincerely felt ZF2 not really worth the price , the hardwares are high spec but softwares are ****.
I got mine in June last year and as still pleased with it. Worth the price to me.
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I'll not purchase ASUS anymore period.
I replace it with an Galaxy S7 duos (flat screen version), cost near twice but it's the best android phone available despite Pixel XL hype, the S7 is the fastest water proof dual sim better display, much smaller than the asus and pixel XL, features Knox and multitasking and Samsung voice recognition its available in Spanish and while not as funny as the assistant does very well when I'm driving, also read messages and emails features not available in Spanish from Google asistant o now. Ahh the S7 also includes HR sensor and wireless charging and cost 300 less than a pixel XL.
I can't find one with better specs than the Zenfone 2 and with the ability to use two sim cards and an sd card at the same time .
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I can't find one with better specs than the Zenfone 2 and with the ability to use two sim cards and an sd card at the same time .
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Yea there are, the Moto G4 has a dual sim version I don't know if can use the sd slot the same time but includes 64 internal storage android 7 and 0 bloat.
I don't use the sd slot often with 32gb its far enough to me even I have 3 games and 10gb+ in mp3, and when I need video for long trips I just plug an mini otg-usb pendrive.
But there is an mod for the S7 that allows simultaneously use the SD and two sim but implies devastating one sim that can't be uses on other phone anymore.
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Yea there are, the Moto G4 has a dual sim version I don't know if can use the sd slot the same time but includes 64 internal storage android 7 and 0 bloat.
I don't use the sd slot often with 32gb its far enough to me even I have 3 games and 10gb+ in mp3, and when I need video for long trips I just plug an mini otg-usb pendrive.
But there is an mod for the S7 that allows simultaneously use the SD and two sim but implies devastating one sim that can't be uses on other phone anymore.
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Moto G4 has only 2gb ram it does has a dedicated sd card slot though :good: but spec wise it's not as good as the zenfone 2 imo.
karlzberg said:
Moto G4 has only 2gb ram it does has a dedicated sd card slot though :good: but spec wise it's not as good as the zenfone 2 imo.
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FYI Moto G4 has versions from 2GB/32gb 5HD" to 4GB/64GB" 5.5HD +fingerprint reader from 150$ (G4play) to 300$ (G4+), in some markets is offered with Dual-Sim feature, and spec-off its an high quality build phone, absolutely reliable with the fastest updated among non-nexus phones, even I considered it at last moment instead the S7.
AcostaJA said:
FYI Moto G4 has versions from 2GB/32gb 5HD" to 4GB/64GB" 5.5HD +fingerprint reader from 150$ (G4play) to 300$ (G4+), in some markets is offered with Dual-Sim feature, and spec-off its an high quality build phone, absolutely reliable with the fastest updated among non-nexus phones, even I considered it at last moment instead the S7.
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:good:
Moto G4 plus Google says 4GB only on sale via Amazon in the UK checking Amazon I'm finding 3GB at £245 so when the 4GB version is out I'm thinking it will probably be north of £300.
One to keep an eye on though:good:
Got the missus a vernee thor for 80GBP , comes with MM out the box and just put AOSP 7.1 on it for her from M.A.D team, here on XDA .
Nippy device 3GB ram and...... MTK of all chipsets
http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_note_8-8231.php
go for xiaomi mi5 or zenfone 3 deluxe. i am using xiaomi mi5. believe me its best.
Hello,
I'd like to buy a new tablet but I'm a bit confused between these 2 devices.
The Asus has 4GB RAM on board and Android Marshmallow which is great while the Huawei has to do it with Lollipop, that's really a shame!
On the other hand the Huawei has an aspect ratio of 16:9 or 16:10 which is nice in landscape modus when you do screen sharing with Miracast to your tv.
What do you guys think about these devices? Which one is better? (Also if we consider in long term). I'm curious about your comments.
Do you guys think the Mediapad will ever get the Android Nougat update? Nor has it even Marshmallow...
I'm in the same situation can't decide between m2 8 inch with 16:9 aspect ratio (the same ratio as my current sam note 8) or to go for 4:3 other tab options
In ur case i would go for the asus one , huawei is known for very slow updates , i don't expect that the m2 will get the nougat update....
According to the specs, the gpu in the asus is about half that of the Huawei (70 GFlops to 144)
memo357 said:
Hello,
I'd like to buy a new tablet but I'm a bit confused between these 2 devices.
The Asus has 4GB RAM on board and Android Marshmallow which is great while the Huawei has to do it with Lollipop, that's really a shame!
On the other hand the Huawei has an aspect ratio of 16:9 or 16:10 which is nice in landscape modus when you do screen sharing with Miracast to your tv.
What do you guys think about these devices? Which one is better? (Also if we consider in long term). I'm curious about your comments.
Do you guys think the Mediapad will ever get the Android Nougat update? Nor has it even Marshmallow...
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Which did you end up getting, and are you happy with it? Trying to decide myself now.
richie101883 said:
Which did you end up getting, and are you happy with it? Trying to decide myself now.
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Not OP but just FYI, the M2 got a Marshmallow (Android 6) upgrade a while back.
My wife has the Zenpad 3 8 (not 10) and its pretty sharp, just as nice as my M2 8. Build quality is about equal to me. But nothing that makes me want to switch. I think it all comes down to personal taste.
Good luck!
Hello Friends,
Could You Please help me out by Recommending a Device between Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 and Redmi Note 5 Pro.
Actually i am Currently Using MMX Nitro A311 with ResurrectionRemix ROM. And I need to upgrade to a New Device.
Actually Both the RNote5Pro and ProM1 both make a Tough Competition and with similar specs , making it really tough to choose from. So it is difficult for me in selecting one in my Budget of 15K.
I am Basically in to Info-Sec Field so I need a phone which I can Root Easily and install custom ROM(s) ,if needed. And I need a Decent Good Battery Backup & Processing Power so that I can manage my Studies and Work. And Want Complete Control of my Phone. And I need to Use My Next Phone for a Pretty Long Duration 2-3 Years.
I would Basically use my Phone for Calls, Chats, Youtube, Watching Tutorials, Reading PDFs and Camera is needed for Recording Purpose. Other than that I would use it for TESTING Apps and for Other Info-Sec Purposes.
Since I read that Xiaomi has some issues Now in Rooting and Now with that Anti-Rollback its now more critical.
So Please help me Out by Suggesting.And Leaving Your Kind Genuine Reviews.
Thanks in Advance,
Regards,
Rahul
rxrkr said:
Hello Friends,
Could You Please help me out by Recommending a Device between Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 and Redmi Note 5 Pro.
Actually i am Currently Using MMX Nitro A311 with ResurrectionRemix ROM. And I need to upgrade to a New Device.
Actually Both the RNote5Pro and ProM1 both make a Tough Competition and with similar specs , making it really tough to choose from. So it is difficult for me in selecting one in my Budget of 15K.
I am Basically in to Info-Sec Field so I need a phone which I can Root Easily and install custom ROM(s) ,if needed. And I need a Decent Good Battery Backup & Processing Power so that I can manage my Studies and Work. And Want Complete Control of my Phone. And I need to Use My Next Phone for a Pretty Long Duration 2-3 Years.
I would Basically use my Phone for Calls, Chats, Youtube, Watching Tutorials, Reading PDFs and Camera is needed for Recording Purpose. Other than that I would use it for TESTING Apps and for Other Info-Sec Purposes.
Since I read that Xiaomi has some issues Now in Rooting and Now with that Anti-Rollback its now more critical.
So Please help me Out by Suggesting.And Leaving Your Kind Genuine Reviews.
Thanks in Advance,
Regards,
Rahul
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Go for the 6gb variant of the Zenfone Max pro M1. Xiaomi is a headache in terms of unlocking bootloader. I got permission to unlock months ago but I'm still not able to unlock it. Planning to sell my note 5 pro and get Zenfone Max pro!
Recommending something can be biased unless you havent tried both and yes its tough choice to make. Now that 6 gigs version of Asus zenfone max pro is released it can surely out perform 5 pro and in your case for a device to stay as much as 2-3 years i would vote hands down for max pro m1 6 gigs since 4+64gigs will age by that time. only thing which was letting max pro down compared to 5 pro was camera which now said to be improved since asus isnt launching zenfone 5 in india so its they're best bit in budget segment market. Speaking of development on both phone should be the same since both are powered by same processor and are treble enabled.
and Yes I am frustated with unlocking bootloader and antiroll thing since its only way they make money by making people use their bloatware and UI which is otherwise in asus case
so verdict ASUS FOR THE GO.
100% Redmi Note 5 Pro
And
Mi A2 Coming Shortly
myron2699 said:
Go for the 6gb variant of the Zenfone Max pro M1. Xiaomi is a headache in terms of unlocking bootloader. I got permission to unlock months ago but I'm still not able to unlock it. Planning to sell my note 5 pro and get Zenfone Max pro!
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I actually sold my RN5 Pro yesterday and will get Asus. Left all the groups of Telegram too. It's not worth investing time in custom roms anymore since it's a lot of headache with anti3/4, unlock bootloader etc.
I've used the 4GB Asus variant for few days, exchanged my ph with a friend, I won't say it's bug free phone but there is no phone that's bug free. For Asus: Once you've got used to receive otas from oem, security patches every bi monthly, stock Android with few addons ( double tap), can unlock unofficially and relock for warranty, I feel Asus has a lot of advantage here.
I'm pretty sure few will tell you about prior issues they had specially with Asus Zenphone phs that were based on Intel cpus but I would suggest you to ignore. Asus has learned from such mistakes, went with SD this time which I'm sure will get good dev support if you're into flashing roms.
For me, getting a stock rom ph, easy to root/unlock bootloader just to use ad blocker, good battery life, decent hardware, no boatloader 20 days waiting, no anti3/4, no mi fans nonsense. I've heard the camera outperforms RN5P but I haven't checked about it since I'm sure all mid end phs does the social sharing job. I'm investing my money with Asus this time.
simple sir , go for asus if your main priority into custom roms etc , you can simply unlock and flash anything right after buying .
this redmi note 5 pro/ai maybe good at camera but asus max pro m1 seems had an advantages on other specs.
lawong said:
simple sir , go for asus if your main priority into custom roms etc , you can simply unlock and flash anything right after buying .
this redmi note 5 pro/ai maybe good at camera but asus max pro m1 seems had an advantages on other specs.
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The only thing better with Asus is the bigger battery. I don't understand how it has advantage in other specs? It does not support WiFI a/ac nor does it have an IR blaster for example and there is no mention of presence/absence of Gorilla Glass on Asus. Now I have a RN5 AI, so this has better camera specs than all M1 variants, but the RN5Pro still has a slight advantage with 3/4gb vs 3/4gb variants.
Yes the Xiaomi made i d*ck move by implementing ARB without making possibility to disable it, but you can still flash custom roms just as you always did, it's the unlocking method that's a bit more confusing than it was.
Don't get me wrong, I'm just stating the facts, you can check the specs by yourself.
Of course being on the Xiaomi forums there has to be a bit of bias for it, but in the end you go for what you want/need/have money for. The devices are similar, what made me lean to this side was better camera specs (f/1.9 aperture, dual pixel focus and bigger sensor), WiFi support, IR blaster and a rich modding community. Now I never used Asus devices nor do I know it's modding potential and devs interest, but I guess it's going to be good enough since it's cheap. The RN5 got a head start though, a lot of good devs are here.
Cirra92 said:
The only thing better with Asus is the bigger battery. I don't understand how it has advantage in other specs? It does not support WiFI a/ac nor does it have an IR blaster for example and there is no mention of presence/absence of Gorilla Glass on Asus. Now I have a RN5 AI, so this has better camera specs than all M1 variants, but the RN5Pro still has a slight advantage with 3/4gb vs 3/4gb variants.
Yes the Xiaomi made i d*ck move by implementing ARB without making possibility to disable it, but you can still flash custom roms just as you always did, it's the unlocking method that's a bit more confusing than it was.
Don't get me wrong, I'm just stating the facts, you can check the specs by yourself.
Of course being on the Xiaomi forums there has to be a bit of bias for it, but in the end you go for what you want/need/have money for. The devices are similar, what made me lean to this side was better camera specs (f/1.9 aperture, dual pixel focus and bigger sensor), WiFi support, IR blaster and a rich modding community. Now I never used Asus devices nor do I know it's modding potential and devs interest, but I guess it's going to be good enough since it's cheap. The RN5 got a head start though, a lot of good devs are here.
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i own both devices sir , i buyed redmi note 5 ai at the end of May and recently last week asus max pro m1 , i didnt use ir blaster and i dnt really know what is wifi a/ac .
from both device what makes me choose max pro m1 because the battery can last longer than my rn5 about an hour + in same usage , its has rgb led notification , the bottom speaker was way to better than rn5 , dedicated memory slot so nice if im planned to sell my rn5 and use with 1 device only, easily unlock bootloader and flash it with twrp+root without worrying anything , and cheaper than my rn5
sorry if something not right here ,its my own opinion sir im still xiaomi user for more than 15 devices variant , just comparing it with my own experience of usage .
Just wait for MI A2.
SDM660
8 August.
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lawong said:
i own both devices sir , i buyed redmi note 5 ai at the end of May and recently last week asus max pro m1 , i didnt use ir blaster and i dnt really know what is wifi a/ac .
from both device what makes me choose max pro m1 because the battery can last longer than my rn5 about an hour + in same usage , its has rgb led notification , the bottom speaker was way to better than rn5 , dedicated memory slot so nice if im planned to sell my rn5 and use with 1 device only, easily unlock bootloader and flash it with twrp+root without worrying anything , and cheaper than my rn5
sorry if something not right here ,its my own opinion sir im still xiaomi user for more than 15 devices variant , just comparing it with my own experience of usage .
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Oh sorry, forgot to mention the separate slot for SD card, which indeed is nice to have and RGB led which I didn't know it has But since I only use one SIM that's not something I need and speaker wise, it's good enough for me
In the end, one has to choose based on his needs and preferences, I would go for RN5, but that's my 2 cents we are giving pros and cons for both anyway
From reviews that I saw, the Zenfone has a pretty slow fingerprint scanner than the RN5. But they might've fixed that in an update. If I was in India, I'd go for the Zenfone (I wanted to get it before RN5 but I'm not in India), simply for the bigger battery. I'm not much of a camera guy, all I care about is lag free UI, decent gaming performance, good battery life, and sleek modern design.
Redmi note 5 pro, never had any problems in terms of modding & stuff. Besides it's very hard to get your hands on a Zenfone Max M1 (at least here in europe). The choice is yours, both are decent and 4 + 64 will be enough also in 3 years!
myron2699 said:
Go for the 6gb variant of the Zenfone Max pro M1. Xiaomi is a headache in terms of unlocking bootloader. I got permission to unlock months ago but I'm still not able to unlock it. Planning to sell my note 5 pro and get Zenfone Max pro!
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Just bit off IP. If you have still troubles with unlocking bootloader. Only thing you need is to use kinda very old Mi Unlock app. I am in work, so I cant provide you with the exact version I used, but I didnt have to wait that ridiculous time. Just PM and I will send u.
hello .. i am really interested with this phone as its currently on sale for 375USD ~ 1399 SAR (including VAT 15% and fees) wherr i am right now ( Moto G 5G Plus 128GB 8GB ram ) and i have some questions regarding this phone :
as i have been using android since 2010 ( Samsung S2 - Samsung Note - Samsung Note 2 - Innjoo - Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 - LG V20 - Poco F1 - Mi Max 3 - Mi Max 2 ) i would like to know about these particular points :
1. how does Motorola deliver software updates compared to Xiaomi, Samsung and LG for example ,,, Xiaomi for getting the most out of it with 3 to 4 security and bugs updates and a big android version change annually While LG might get the one or two update to security patches only with no android version update ????
This is still not answered, we received the September 2020 patch on android 10 for now RETMEA channel .... phone code name is nairo
2. Screen on time Expectations; and let me know if this is single or dual 5g / 4g standby mode .. this is important because it heavily affects the standby time ...
Can this phone use both sims and sd card with an adapter ? i would love to know if any of you have tried that
Answer : dual 4g standby and 4g+/5g on the active data sim when it supports it , hybrid adapter works and getting about a day and a half of life with this phone now ... Still on my second cycle and so far i am getting about 8 hrs sot
Update : battery usage is getting better ... 1.5 days of backup with 9 hrs SOT
3. is this phone easily rooted like requesting the unlock and then using a recovery from fastboot with magisk flash ? or its hard like doing LG v20 wizardry and dirty cow exploits with terminals and flashing ? ( i did both ways before on my older phones but i am just getting the sense of this phone
Answer : its not easily rooted due to lack of developers support and rooting will void all warranty which is absurd, plus you get an intrusive badge on your phone once you unlocked boot loader ... Xiaomi is far better in that case because you can re-lock it and the unlocked sign is not like a nuclear disaster sign .. this remind me of samsung and LG which is not appropriate
Rooted by patching the boot.img file with magisk app inside the phone then flashing it from fast boot, its a manual thing and the TWRP recovery is not working well on this Variant so far so you cannot rely on it (cannot access internal storage or sd card while it request codes or passwords)
4. how does this phone compare to the poco x3 nfc ? in terms of daily usage and smoothness ? is the internal memory fast like UFS ?
Answer : it is faster than poco x3 ... 276k poco vs 309k Antutu v8.4.3 ... Ufs 2.1 as gsm arena mentioned
5. does this phone support USB on the go function ? Are the ringer and notification volumes separable in the software ?
Answer : usb otg and charging other devices is supported, ringer and notification volumes cannot be separated (big bummer)? in settings but i am trying Volume Butler for now and so far i can say it sometimes work and sometimes not due to the fact i am using "island" which has applied a personal and a work profile inside the phone
6. does the phone speaker sound pack some bass like the lg v20 for example ? or its tinny like the poco F1 ?
Answer : closer to poco f1 less bass mono speaker, but its loud enough for media consumption for me atleast
7. will motorola support this phone even further with newer features like stereo speakers like what happened for the mi max 2 as an example ? or we will probably rely on other developers for a magisk module ?
Answer not clear yet
8. best cases for this phone ( links on amazon or aliexpress are appreciated if mods approve )
i bought lots of them from aliexpress and i am trying them now ... so far i like this one
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001600406047.html
for stickers i went installing the Hydrogel one yesterday and with the cover the whole phone experience went from ( a very slim phone that i am afraid to crush and break ) to ( this is a good phone that can deal with my daily usage )
9. the device has no notification LED and instead you get a pesky feature called ( display peek ) that keeps the phone turning the screen on for each move and vibration , plus the notifications cannot be seen if you have the hide notification mode on .... simply a bummer for a person who just wants to double tap to wake and unlock only as this called feature consume lots of battery for nothing ! ... motorola if you can see this please fix it
these are some of the detailed issues that i would like keep exploring solutions for as i am very eager to see your answer
Update : added some answers from my experience as i got the phone on 26-10-2020
No notification led light and the phone keeps lighting up the screen if you use moto gestures which is a pain .. already disabled
Google assistant button is useless
No double tap to wake
Nord VPN app notworking properly cannot login or use the vpn (Updated app now works fine)... Other vpn provider ultrasurf worked fine
No full screen recorder
21:9 screen is very long and only well suited for portrait use
Phone got security patch update September 2020
moto g 5g plus varient specs and antutu score
Some screen shots showing the current device specs and antutu score
I have had it for 2 weeks now, feels quite sluggish especially when switching apps but this is the 4gb ram version. Is the 8gb ram one any better?
This is an android one device which Google says should receive os updates for 2 years (android 11 and 12) and security updates for 3 but no word on the moto g 5g plus specifically
ludio22 said:
I have had it for 2 weeks now, feels quite sluggish especially when switching apps but this is the 4gb ram version. Is the 8gb ram one any better?
This is an android one device which Google says should receive os updates for 2 years (android 11 and 12) and security updates for 3 but no word on the moto g 5g plus specifically
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Glad to hear that it will be supported for 2 more years
Ram usage here is higher than 4gb everyday so yeah its smooth and working well so far ... Can you do the antutu on your varient and check the score to compare ?
Ps : dont forget to turn on adaptive performance it really makes it smoother after a couple of days depending on your usage
thanks
thanks for the advice about adaptive performance, i have turned that on and the difference is significant. i do have my reservations about downloading antutu, just because of all the stuff cheetah mobile has been accused of, but i have done some geekbench tests which I screenshotted but I don't knkow how to upload them here,
so the multi core scores averaged at 1838 and
the single threaded at 592 after running 3 tests
ludio22 said:
thanks
thanks for the advice about adaptive performance, i have turned that on and the difference is significant. i do have my reservations about downloading antutu, just because of all the stuff cheetah mobile has been accused of, but i have done some geekbench tests which I screenshotted but I don't knkow how to upload them here,
so the multi core scores averaged at 1838 and
the single threaded at 592 after running 3 tests
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Hi ludio22,
I'm going to buy the 4gb version too. How is it going after these two months? Is 4gb really a limit for everyday use?
The phone can be rooted very easily, with the standard Magisk procedure.