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[Q] Install 5.1.1 or not?

How is the battery life on your moto 360 after the update and is it worth installing?

user of android said:
How is the battery life on your moto 360 after the update and is it worth installing?
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Same usual 3% per hour approx. Nice update, I see no reason to not install it.

If you don't use WiFi then the update seems to have about the same battery life as before.

i'll have to give it a couple days to see if battery life is similar...

Installing now

Personal observation. If your watch is only connected to WiFi, no Bluetooth, battery lasts half as long. Did this by accident but good to know nonetheless. Usually end my day with 40~50% battery, and was at 25% before the day was over.
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Battery issue
My moto has been great after the update. I was at 65 to 70 percent at the end of the workday with moderate usage. Then tonite, I picked up my watch and it was very hot and the battery percent had dropped like a lead weight to 39 percent in a very short amount of time. I restarted and the watch cooled and now it seems to have stabilized. Considering this is a known bug and Google needs to issue a fix which could take a while , I would avoid the update.

Seems a lot better and the watch layout is way better too.

Nvsteveg said:
My moto has been great after the update. I was at 65 to 70 percent at the end of the workday with moderate usage. Then tonite, I picked up my watch and it was very hot and the battery percent had dropped like a lead weight to 39 percent in a very short amount of time. I restarted and the watch cooled and now it seems to have stabilized. Considering this is a known bug and Google needs to issue a fix which could take a while , I would avoid the update.
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I had battery issues too after update and now fixed. See this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-360/help/battery-life-issues-5-1-1-update-t3142723

Ridiculous Battery Life

Hello,
I've just got mine, it's amazon refurbished, but just because the box was broken, never used before.
I've used it for about a week to let the battery start working as it should, but no way.
Yesterday it went from 100% to 0% (dead) from 10:00 to 23:00
Now this are the expectations for today: http://imgur.com/1UPeXww
Should I just send it back? I've heard lot of people talking about at least two days and I'm not even using it that much...

Since last Wear update by google few days ago there are another time a battery issue on wear watch. My SW3 go from normal 3% by hour to 8% by hours. Same review with Huawei users

I agree, I thought the update made it better... well, it WAS better for a moment but now it's worse.
My watch easily lasted for about 2-3 days on first MM update, now it's barely 2 days with the same usage.
The only thing I've noticed is that the battery drains less from the vibrations, notifications and overall interaction with the watch. So the battery is somehow fixed - it drains less while using the watch but drains more while the watch is "off".

Same here. Mine is just few months old and after the update battery gets drained in about 10 hours or so.
I do miss Pebble...
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Does anyone know if there's a way to downgrade to the previous marshmallow update?

Same problem here, took the update (like you have a choice) and my battery which used to at least last all day with heavy use is now dead by lunch. The problem seems to be related to certain watch faces, i switched to a simple watch face and the battery life is back to normal but should be much longer with this simple watch face. Going to load a custom rom.

dersie said:
Since last Wear update by google few days ago there are another time a battery issue on wear watch. My SW3 go from normal 3% by hour to 8% by hours. Same review with Huawei users
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Since that update the GPS performance is chronic too. GPS takes ages to lock and accuracy suddenly shoots up to 90m+ for no apparent reason. Very annoying as I have written, and been using successfully for months, a stand-alone golf GPS app that is now useless.

Andyman10 said:
Since that update the GPS performance is chronic too. GPS takes ages to lock and accuracy suddenly shoots up to 90m+ for no apparent reason. Very annoying as I have written, and been using successfully for months, a stand-alone golf GPS app that is now useless.
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Not had the GPS issue but hell the battery is poor now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get a days battery at best and thats if I use it for notifications and for the time and nothing more. Used to get around 60hrs with general usage and around 30hrs with HEAVY usage(GPS ETC).... Heavy usage now gives me around 10hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have an issue with the compass as it rarely points north and when it does south if you turn to face south its usually where east is!!!!
Completely unreliable watch now....
Thinking of going back to 5.1 as everything worked!

lohtse said:
Not had the GPS issue but hell the battery is poor now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get a days battery at best and thats if I use it for notifications and for the time and nothing more. Used to get around 60hrs with general usage and around 30hrs with HEAVY usage(GPS ETC).... Heavy usage now gives me around 10hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have an issue with the compass as it rarely points north and when it does south if you turn to face south its usually where east is!!!!
Completely unreliable watch now....
Thinking of going back to 5.1 as everything worked!
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I'm thinking the same...and I do occasionally get the hugely accelerated battery drain problem; usually of course just when you need the watch working!
I actually added compass algorithms to the software I wrote to point the way to the next tee on new courses and it was very unstable on 5.1. It's now more stable but seems to drift +/- 30 deg off true North after a few minutes even with regular calibration. I'd suspect my own code but I've tried a few other apps (Bearing seems a good one) and the results are identical.

A5 2017 amazing battery life normal?

I'm at 15% and got 8h23 SOT. Surely will hit 9h mark I assume.
4G enabled but mostly wifi, volte, Bluetooth. Watched 2 series, was on the Internet all day and some Internet radio on high quality. So no compromises.
Haven't had this much battery life with any smartphone, flagship Sony, galaxy s7 edge and oneplus 3t recently.
Anyone else have this? Didn't expect this at all..
Edit: almost 10h SOT short a few minutes. Added screenshots to show.

Yes, this is normal for this device. I'm sorry for your inconvenience. Since you're dutch, you can read this for more information on batterylife.

Well yea, will need to send it back!
"battery life too good"

Yes, it is amazing and it is normal. It seems Samsung finally put some effort into the optimization.

Samsung has nailed it this time
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Mine gets as high as 4.5-5 hours of sot. 2G, full reception, data off, BT off, sync off, occasional Wifi usage, Facebook crap disabled and AOD on. quite disappointing.

Is this normal sot...after 3 days of use?
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crni6 said:
Is this normal sot...after 3 days of use?
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I think so, 52hrs of standby time also takes some batterylife. So.... Did u also use always on display?

No...I dont use always on display. And my sot i about 7h after 2/3 days.
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Battery life is amazing on Samsung Galaxy A7 2017
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well, i had my a5 2017 tow days ago and i only charged it 1 time to full.
those a 2017 a5,a7 are battery beast i belive.
almost 56h with 2 charges.

wtwota94 said:
well, i had my a5 2017 tow days ago and i only charged it 1 time to full.
those a 2017 a5,a7 are battery beast i belive.
almost 56h with 2 charges.
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I hit the mark of 1 day and 19 hours with the first half charge, right after unboxing... Although it seems it won't repeat as my previsions are for 22 hours with 80%... Anynway, very good battery life

Look at this stats . Wifi +sync +4g allways on.
Best device i ever had regarding battery life

Battery life is simply amazing on this device... with Nougat
All sync on, wifi, BT and so on.. google services such as location history and assistant...
After 2d 4h 45m on battery and 7h 21m screen on I still have 23% battery left !

Samsung made a mistake in the design specifications of the 2017 series. They currently use a battery that uses a low-radioactive component that is superior to the standard battery but it has not been tested for the long term. just kidding It's not only the A5 also the A3 shows this kind of battery stats. Battery usage with GPS (not including wifi/cell location) is also very good from my experience with A3. But have noticed that after a week or so the battery will go down faster but am not so sure because of irregular use of chat apps running that receive messages frequently.
I'm on Marshmallow. I like to know how Nougat does in comparison

Is there still anyone who get these kind of stats in nougat? I got 6h of sot and I'm at 12%. Is this normal? Also, I woke at 17% (didn't discharge a single % overnight) but it dropped to 12% only by using fb, samsung default browser and settings...

syvanaLTU said:
Is there still anyone who get these kind of stats in nougat? I got 6h of sot and I'm at 12%. Is this normal? Also, I woke at 17% (didn't discharge a single % overnight) but it dropped to 12% only by using fb, samsung default browser and settings...
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I get similar, seems MM had bettery battery life.

Yes, A7 is champion in terms of battery life.

That's weird my A5 just got the Oreo update and now the battery drains faster than before... When I check the device maintenance I can see cell standby consumption is higher than the screen. I wiped all the data and cache, reset factory, restet network settings, disabled sync, location... and the issue remains. I don't know what to do to solve the issue and am afraid they're not going to take the problem seriously if I send it back to samsung... Anyone can relate?

It is not in a single charge but that's what I get. The stamina is still correct though so idk if it is more like a display problem or if it does show the real consumption and so the battery should last way longer.

Brand new Pixel XL battery drain?

Hi, my Pixel XL arrived last night (got it very cheap brand new) and today, the battery seems very bad. I've installed the 8.0 OTA and 2 security updates since last night and installed all the apps I need (had no issues with the same apps on my 6P) however, the phone doesn't seem to be dozing properly and seems to be draining fairly fast. When I took the phone out of the box, it was at 52% and I drained that all while updating and setting it up, with 2 hours and a half SOT. However, today, I am on a data connection, with an hour of SOT and at 65% battery.
Do I need to give it time to settle? Seems odd to me...
Thanks

gman88667733 said:
Hi, my Pixel XL arrived last night (got it very cheap brand new) and today, the battery seems very bad. I've installed the 8.0 OTA and 2 security updates since last night and installed all the apps I need (had no issues with the same apps on my 6P) however, the phone doesn't seem to be dozing properly and seems to be draining fairly fast. When I took the phone out of the box, it was at 52% and I drained that all while updating and setting it up, with 2 hours and a half SOT. However, today, I am on a data connection, with an hour of SOT and at 65% battery.
Do I need to give it time to settle? Seems odd to me...
Thanks
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I would definitely give it time to settle. If your worried about the drain you can check battery usage with an app like AccuBattery. Also some apps have not been optimized for Oreo yet. If your still seeing this in a week I would start to get more proactive on figuring out a reason why.
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ahent said:
I would definitely give it time to settle. If your worried about the drain you can check battery usage with an app like AccuBattery. Also some apps have not been optimized for Oreo yet. If your still seeing this in a week I would start to get more proactive on figuring out a reason why.
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Gotcha. So is it not worth factory resetting yet then?
I suppose if it still is bad, I could revert back to 7.1.1 after a week. And at the very worst, I can return it within 30 days. (I don't want to return it though!!)

gman88667733 said:
Hi, my Pixel XL arrived last night (got it very cheap brand new) and today, the battery seems very bad. I've installed the 8.0 OTA and 2 security updates since last night and installed all the apps I need (had no issues with the same apps on my 6P) however, the phone doesn't seem to be dozing properly and seems to be draining fairly fast. When I took the phone out of the box, it was at 52% and I drained that all while updating and setting it up, with 2 hours and a half SOT. However, today, I am on a data connection, with an hour of SOT and at 65% battery.
Do I need to give it time to settle? Seems odd to me...
Thanks
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1) Your experience with draining 50% of battery charge while installing new OS and 2 security updates plus apps with SOT of 2.5 hours is not unusual. Just having the screen on for 2.5 hours should drain between 35 and 55% of battery of XL depending on brightness and screen content. Add to the fact that many files need to be moved in the process, and that adds even more battery drain.
2) However, an hour of SOT should not drain your battery for more than 15-25%.
3) I don't think modern Li-Ion or Li-Po batteries "settle." They are very carefully crafted, calibrated and tested at the factory. Their voltages are very consistent with regard to their capacities.
4) What you need to do is figure out what drained your battery by simply looking at the Battery page of Settings. If your biggest drain is from Phone Idle, then perhaps you are in a low cellular signal area - the phone uses more cellular chip power in such areas to maintain connection to cellular towers, and that drains significantly more battery. If your biggest drain is from Android System, you may have a rogue app that keeps your phone awake when it shouldn't. It may also be a combination of the two.

April 5 patch battery

Is anyone else getting battery drainage since the April 5th update? Before I could go the whole day and every once in a while get to 10% but now my phone has already dropped 5% in 15 mins with minimal usage.

Try factory reset
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Update. Google acknowledges and has received several complaints about battery drain with update. They gave me a 15.00 credit for the Google store.

KevTN said:
Is anyone else getting battery drainage since the April 5th update? Before I could go the whole day and every once in a while get to 10% but now my phone has already dropped 5% in 15 mins with minimal usage.
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Yes, I am. Getting horribly battery with phone doing nothing.

Yeah battery on my pixel has gone from averaging 5-6 hours SOT to now 3-4 hours with same use.
How did you manage to get the 15 play store credit KevTN?

I had horrible battery drain after applying the April update as well. After clearing cache for Google, Google Play Store and Google Play services (I think this is the primary culprit) my battery life returned to normal. I suspect all Google needs to do is clear cache for all of their services after they update. Seems like a reasonable thing to automate anyway.

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Yeah battery on my pixel has gone from averaging 5-6 hours SOT to now 3-4 hours with same use.
How did you manage to get the 15 play store credit KevTN?
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I just called them to ask about battery drainage and they gave the 15 for my inconvenience. Actually I did a live chat with P2xl support.

Glad its not just me. Battery is terrible now

Ditto. I wondered about the battery drain. Glad it's not just me.

I just got the phone with this update preinstalled. Really disappointed with the battery life compared to my old 6s Plus. Can't get past 3 hours SOT ... I hope it gets fixed or in going back as poor battery life was the reason I left android a few years ago

The battery drain was apparent for me one day as well. I could watch the battery percentage fall as I used the phone. It took 2 or 3 reboots, but now it's back to normal. However it only happened that one day and it was nearly 2 weeks after the April update. So I'm not sure what the true cause was.

I hope Google fixes it quickly this is almost as bad as my 6P before I replaced it

Factory reset fixed it for me

My phone I have noticed over the April patch as well has not been getting good battery life at all. I hope they fix it in the May update. Because it is a great phone. But battery life is horrible now.

bradmill08 said:
My phone I have noticed over the April patch as well has not been getting good battery life at all. I hope they fix it in the May update. Because it is a great phone. But battery life is horrible now.
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I had bad battery life because of the AOD. After turning off AOD, I again have a very good battery runtime (>6h of SoT).
Before the April patch I haven't used AOD, so I cannot say whether it was better before, though...

What's aod thanks

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What's aod thanks
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Ambient On Display. It's when the clock is always on your screen even when the phone is locked. Go to settings- battery- ambient display to turn it off.

Okay thank you so much. I do already have that off. It's crazy it says one minute of screen time it goes down to 99%

Just noticed my device dropped 6% in about ~10 minutes of screen on time...
I really don't want to do an RMA since this unit has virtually no blue shift or other major issues other users are experiencing.

Mine is doing pretty fine
I'll admit it was worse before i did factory reset
Cheers ?
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