Just curious if anyone else doesn't care about root anymore.
I haven't rooted since I took the Marshmallow update, and I don't miss a thing about root. My phone runs great without a custom kernel or the ability to write to the microSD with apps that don't normally get to do so.
I'm not arguing that being unrooted is better. The only real benefit to not having root is that I can just take the security updates OTA with no fuss or muss. But I'm not paranoid about security updates, so that doesn't matter much to me. It's just that if root was such a good thing, why don't I miss it?
I agree, it isn't work the effort anymore. My next Smart Phone will be Google only.
Yup, haven't rooted in a while. It's nice being able to take the security updates and keep the phone a little more locked down. Only thing I miss is ad blocking.
Not to derail this thread. I have some input for un-rooted users. But also my feelings for root.
You un-rooted users try Adguard? The Google Play version works for Samsung and Yandex browsers only.
The other browsers require the version that comes from their site.
But Adguard is limited to VPN only for un-rooted devices and may use a tad more RAM and battery and be slower. Rooted or not, Adguard may be the best ad-blocker for Android.
What about Good Lock? Can you run that on un-rooted marshmallow phone? Dunno, maybe you can?
Then there's package disabler apps on Google Play that you can use to deal with bloat. Tried those?
However, I'd miss root too much to go without it, personally. No V4A for easy tunes listening, Xposed customization (or custom ROMs) and individual core control, and one of my favorites: modified Swype with top number row and one added shortcut to edit keyboard.
What kind of screen on time are guys getting on battery stats? I usually get 8 hours plus on the stock sized capacity battery but that depends on what I'm using there phone for. -(Browsing seems less intensive compared to streaming, gaming, downloading and talking.-use effects stats the most...)
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idk about not needing root lol
but not needing a custom rom is acceptable lol
i know for me im stock rooted only to remove bloat center my clock to put percent in battery instead of on the side
plus once you have adaway and the 1 for youtube you cant go back *At least i think so*
I am not root as yet i have no problem so far yet with the stock rom
I have not rooted since the Marshmallow upgrade, either. I miss Titanium Backup and FolderMount, but I am too lazy to unroot for the frequent security updates.
I specifically root for AdAway and V4A sound processing. Being able to have root is more important to me than Android Pay, Samsung Pay, Samsung Apps Store, and all apps that force 1 minute video ads to play before you can do anything else.
Since Samsung has decided to start locking bootloaders on all new phones they sell, eliminating the possibility to root....its time for me to switch brands and even carriers. Its been a long time coming.
My next phone in 2 months will be on Cricket. I am leaving Sprint Postpaid after 12 years and will be saving $80 a month in plan cost on the 2 phones on my account... even after 18% employer discount on my Everything Data Family 1500 plan. I dont need unlimited data anymore and Cricket has faster LTE than Sprint in my area.
I am looking at buying the Nexus 6P (or the brand new HTC Nexus model), the Motorola Z (if they make an unlocked force edition) or the new Axon 7.
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I think root is not needed for now but if note 4 is note get nougat or further updates we will need root for custom roms or add new features our phone
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Been using android tablets for a while now but this is my first android phone (OK, not really, but the last one was on Donut... I don't think that even counts anymore...). Anyways, picked up the one V on Cyber monday ($54 w/tax - $17.50 from fatwallet = awesome!). I have no intention of ever using it as a phone, but it's certainly a nice little android device. I might use it with grooveip to make occasional wifi calls (damn this 2-year iPhone contract...), but other than that, this is just going to be a media player / gaming device.
So I'm just curious: anyone else using one of these as a media player or gaming device, and any suggestions? I've already unlocked and rooted, but so far haven't ROMmed or themed, so I'm open to suggestions if anyone has them, including apps or other uses I haven't though of.
Thanks!
Also- I have it on airplane mode to save batteries. Is there any way to get rid of the "airplane mode" panel on the lockscreen, and the Airplane icon on the status bar? It's not necessary, but it would be nice if anyone knows how to do it.
As for getting rid of the airplane notification, not really.
I gave my HTC Desire to my son, no sim card and he is fine with it. Lots of alternate WiFi calling and texting apps out there.
Basically you'll have an Android powered IPod touch with superior build quality and infinitely customizable.
I recommend buying Titanium backup, app backup to the cloud etc. This way if you play with lots of ROM flashing it is easy to restore all your usual apps, with everything else Google, dropbox etc no computer required.
If your happy with stock, or rooted stock then play away, this is a light weight portable device.
Have fun
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Hi all-
Been using android tablets for a while now but this is my first android phone (OK, not really, but the last one was on Donut... I don't think that even counts anymore...). Anyways, picked up the one V on Cyber monday ($54 w/tax - $17.50 from fatwallet = awesome!). I have no intention of ever using it as a phone, but it's certainly a nice little android device. I might use it with grooveip to make occasional wifi calls (damn this 2-year iPhone contract...), but other than that, this is just going to be a media player / gaming device.
So I'm just curious: anyone else using one of these as a media player or gaming device, and any suggestions? I've already unlocked and rooted, but so far haven't ROMmed or themed, so I'm open to suggestions if anyone has them, including apps or other uses I haven't though of.
Thanks!
Also- I have it on airplane mode to save batteries. Is there any way to get rid of the "airplane mode" panel on the lockscreen, and the Airplane icon on the status bar? It's not necessary, but it would be nice if anyone knows how to do it.
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I'm certain that fatwallet pending of 17.50 isn't going to go through but if it does, lucky us.
I prefer the stock sense rom because of the camera feature and i swap my kernel so overclocking to 1.8GHz stable. Ram is really limiting the device but firefox seems to work faster than stock/google chrome.
Stuck my 32GB micro sd in it. It's a GPS (navigon), game, web browser, texter (G-Voice).
Lastly, I'll say this I actual like the device's size. Smart phones are getting too big, like my nexus 4. Snowy days like these I'm too scared to take my Nexus 4 to class so I take my HTC one V. I'm not afraid of dropping or being more risky (Nexus 4 glass front/back).
Future I hope there be a quad-core 2GB ram in a size of 3.7 It's nearly the perfect. Like a true phone instead of extra large phone.
PS: Swipe is amazing.
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Hi all-
Been using android tablets for a while now but this is my first android phone (OK, not really, but the last one was on Donut... I don't think that even counts anymore...). Anyways, picked up the one V on Cyber monday ($54 w/tax - $17.50 from fatwallet = awesome!). I have no intention of ever using it as a phone, but it's certainly a nice little android device. I might use it with grooveip to make occasional wifi calls (damn this 2-year iPhone contract...), but other than that, this is just going to be a media player / gaming device.
So I'm just curious: anyone else using one of these as a media player or gaming device, and any suggestions? I've already unlocked and rooted, but so far haven't ROMmed or themed, so I'm open to suggestions if anyone has them, including apps or other uses I haven't though of.
Thanks!
Also- I have it on airplane mode to save batteries. Is there any way to get rid of the "airplane mode" panel on the lockscreen, and the Airplane icon on the status bar? It's not necessary, but it would be nice if anyone knows how to do it.
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Stock rom is very laggy when it comes to games and apps. This doesn't happen with any other custom rom. If you need it only for gaming I would recommend cyanogenmod 9 or 10, aokp or any other non-sense rom, because sense is very heavy.
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I also bought this phone on cyber monday and do not pay for service as I am on T-Mobile and have the sgs3. This is a cool lil phone. Sense is cool and all and am currently running stock because cm based ROMs give me a weaker WiFi signal in my experience since this is a WiFi only device that is a big no no.
I hate HTC bootloader but their build quality is top notch, pretty much the opposite of Samsung which is open yet the build quality is lacking
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Ha, so already went back on my original statement; I activated this morning because on short notice I needed a local number.
Can't touch my Nexus 4!
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Can't touch my Nexus 4!
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How do you say "non sequitur" in Russian?
I'm looking for a new phone to replace my ageing P990. I've been using my P990 for the last 4 years... 3 of which has been an exercise in frustration and suffering. Much of which seems focused around it's lack of RAM and nvidia's binary blobs... which require a series of work-around to get some-sort of functionality.
If I purchase a ZenFone 2... I'd like to use it for another 4 years. This doesn't mean it needs to run the latest and greatest version of CM for that length of time (but I wouldn't complain either)... but it does mean if I upgrade an app (or more specifically, when google pushes yet-another update to google play, which just stucks up more resources)... I'd like my phone to still work (this is my current problem with the P990 paltry RAM... after google play and all the other stock services start, I've got 50 megs of "usable" ram.).
So my questions for you ZF2 owners:
1) Does the ZF2 require some binary blobs? If so, how much of a difficulty will there be in re-using the BB's in future version of CM? (ie: are the BB's tied to a specific version of libc? a specific kernel?)
2) What can I not do with this phone? I *must* to be able to run XPrivacy and *a* version of CyanogenMod... which I believe is possible today. However, I'm concerned about not being able to install certain apps (ie CSIPSimple) due to the intel architecture ...and no-one really developing against it (at-least this is my perception).
3) How frequently are you restricted in your app selection due to the intel architecture not being supported?
My other option is the ZenFone Selfie... but it hasn't been released yet (so there are many unknowns: unlocked bootloaders, BB's, etc). Plus, I believe the ZF2's extra gig of RAM would give me another year or so of life from this phone .
Thank you for your help -- opinions are welcomed!
Don't worry, almost all apps run, even CSIPSimple (just installed and opend)
csipsimple working 4 me too.
CSipSimple works for me too.
There's x86 version.
http://nightlies.csipsimple.com/x86
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Overall build quality of this phone is garbage. Got one for my wife and for the money it seemed like a great buy. After a month the phone will no longer charge past 40%. Sometimes doesn't want to turn on at all. It's completely stock. Asus's answer is send it to us and we should have it back to you within 2 weeks. I guess you get what you pay for. Asus is trying real hard to be relevant here in the US but this isn't going to get it done.
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. Asus's answer is send it to us and we should have it back to you within 2 weeks.
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That sounds like the right answer. What else would you want in that situation?
I guess I'm just used to buying phones from the carriers. It breaks and they send you a refurbished one and you send old one back. If the phone was 9 months old I could understand. Just not to happy about a phone lasting a month and the inconvenience of the whole thing.
Had mine for 5 months with no complaints. It performs better than expected at this price point.
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So recently I have purschased a 3T (after my Galaxy S6 exploded) and it's coming to my hands really soon. The question I'm asking myself right now is whether that amazing device is worth rooting. The question is quite bizarre in my case since I am an Android enthusiast and so far I have rooted EVERY SINGLE device I have owned. I also used to be a ROM/kernel developer as well back in the Xperia Arc/HOX/N4/5 days and root was simply essential for me especially that I loved playing around with Android. Referring to my last choice - Galaxy S6 (which replaced my old might Nexus 5) just had to be rooted. I came to Samsung from CLEAN Android experience and no matter how hard I tried I just couldn't make it with tons of Touchwiz bloatware slowing my device down. Now, I have reached the point when I am not really this sure if I'll be rooting OP3T. Now, I just expect a device to be flawless in everyday usage and simply reliable. Any tips? Is it really worth rooting OP3T and sacrificing Oxygen OS OTAs? Or maybe the custom ROMs out there are so outstanding that it's just a must do. Thanks in advance
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So recently I have purschased a 3T (after my Galaxy S6 exploded) and it's coming to my hands really soon. The question I'm asking myself right now is whether that amazing device is worth rooting. The question is quite bizarre in my case since I am an Android enthusiast and so far I have rooted EVERY SINGLE device I have owned. I also used to be a ROM/kernel developer as well back in the Xperia Arc/HOX/N4/5 days and root was simply essential for me especially that I loved playing around with Android. Referring to my last choice - Galaxy S6 (which replaced my old might Nexus 5) just had to be rooted. I came to Samsung from CLEAN Android experience and no matter how hard I tried I just couldn't make it with tons of Touchwiz bloatware slowing my device down. Now, I have reached the point when I am not really this sure if I'll be rooting OP3T. Now, I just expect a device to be flawless in everyday usage and simply reliable. Any tips? Is it really worth rooting OP3T and sacrificing Oxygen OS OTAs? Or maybe the custom ROMs out there are so outstanding that it's just a must do. Thanks in advance
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No i dont think so. Oxygenos is simply smooth you hardly find lag and 6gb is just enough. All my family members using oneplus 3 and 3t. Except me nobody has rooted it. But the performance is so awesome you dont need to root the phone
Btw oneplus warranty includes rooted devices
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No i dont think so. Oxygenos is simply smooth you hardly find lag and 6gb is just enough. All my family members using oneplus 3 and 3t. Except me nobody has rooted it. But the performance is so awesome you dont need to root the phone
Btw oneplus warranty includes rooted devices
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Even for AdAway, Greenify or SDMaid? Those were quite essential apps for me especially on the crappy GS6. SDMaid could do wonders to put it back to smooth work.
If you find those apps useful, then it's worth it.
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If you find those apps useful, then it's worth it.
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Exactly.
For what it is worth, I was a huge AdAway user. I've gotten around it by using Dolphin browser with ad blocking extension. Works every bit as effectively as AdAway for web browsing. Sure, I have to deal with a few ads in some apps, but this is a minor annoyance for me.
I have had the phone since June and never once felt the need to root. As stated earlier, OOS is simply brilliant.
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Try YuBrowser on this phone. It's optimized for our Snapdragon and comes with a lot of security. I also use SDMaid.
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Even for AdAway, Greenify or SDMaid? Those were quite essential apps for me especially on the crappy GS6. SDMaid could do wonders to put it back to smooth work.
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You don't need greenify bcoz oxygenos has built-in hibernating tool. For blocking ads use can use a adguard which do not required a rooted phone. As far sd maid is concerned i have not used it so i cant comment on that.
If you root the phone and oneplus released a new update you can flash the update ( but u need flash updated full rom available from oneplus website) through twrp. You dont need oneplus recovery.
Wasn't in the market for a new phone but my coworker is in a bad money situation and is selling me his Google Playstore Pixel XL for 600 bucks. Not a bad deal considering they are going for over 700 bucks on swappa. I currently have the S7 Edge and I really like having the back button on the right side of the phone but the Pixel has it on the left side of the phone... Anyway around this other than rooting and using custom ROM?
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Wasn't in the market for a new phone but my coworker is in a bad money situation and is selling me his Google Playstore Pixel XL for 600 bucks. Not a bad deal considering they are going for over 700 bucks on swappa. I currently have the S7 Edge and I really like having the back button on the right side of the phone but the Pixel has it on the left side of the phone... Anyway around this other than rooting and using custom ROM?
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128gb model? If so, sounds good. Wouldn't bother with the 32gb as there's no sdcard slot.
Don't know about back button mods unless custom roms, etc. I always root, rom ASAP.
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Multiple Roms have this feature, it's a trivial matter to read the OP of a few Roms to find out honestly.
Also, deciding on a phone based on the location of the back button is rather silly. Just because at this moment you are used to the current location of the back button does mean you can't adapt to a different orientation. A few days of use and you will get used to it.
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You can even do this on the stock rom
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Wasn't in the market for a new phone but my coworker is in a bad money situation and is selling me his Google Playstore Pixel XL for 600 bucks. Not a bad deal considering they are going for over 700 bucks on swappa. I currently have the S7 Edge and I really like having the back button on the right side of the phone but the Pixel has it on the left side of the phone... Anyway around this other than rooting and using custom ROM?
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This was one of the things I missed the most coming from the s5. I believe there is a mod in the mods section which has the nav bar tuner but you might need root. I was also waiting for development to pick up before doing anything and now I'm on PureNexus which has the nav bar tuner. You should consider trying it out. It's 100% as stable as stock. I feel its a little snappier and the battery life is also better. Other than a few extra settings it is no different than stock.
It's available in stock firmware as well as custom firmwares. With stock, you can only accomplish this with root at the moment, until Google decides to release it's Navbar Tuner from System UI Tuner.
It would be worth rooting, changing the setting, then fully unrooting to do this IMO.
Thanks for all the replies. So is the NavBar Tuner something accessible through system UI Tuner without root? There is conflicting info about this all over the web. Some say it can be done with stock ROM w/out root, others say one must root.
I am excited for this device, it is the 32GB variant but being that I rely so much on the cloud I don't need the added storage.
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Thanks for all the replies. So is the NavBar Tuner something accessible through system UI Tuner without root? There is conflicting info about this all over the web. Some say it can be done with stock ROM w/out root, others say one must root.
I am excited for this device, it is the 32GB variant but being that I rely so much on the cloud I don't need the added storage.
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You can do it without root. But you need to be unlocked and be able to temp boot twrp. From there you can move the apks manually. I know this works because my boy is using my modded system ui, settings, and framework apks using that method.
Advice & expertise needed,
Few questions & hope someone can advise, & help.
Ok, I have had a Note 10+ in the box for awhile & decided to use it, as I forgot about it, actually I thought I lost it during a move a year ago. It has no updates, no security updates & still running Android 11. I took a screenshot of current update info from software updates page in settings.
I noticed during past year updates were released to 12, & T-Mobile platform for note 10+ within last 4 months. Twas hoping I would get an ota update within last 7 weeks, as that is when I turned my device on. I'm more concerned about getting security updates then a UI 12 update. I'm on the T-Mobile platform, SM-N975U1. I took the sim card from my T-Mobile S9 Note & installed it into my UNLOCKED Note 10+ & is working on TMobile without any issues. Splash screen is still splashing the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ not T-Mobile platform if that helps with anything. When I try software updates I get the popup below in SS. Was hoping I would get an OTA update. Any ideas on how to get security updates, or Update to 12 with security? Or am I going to have to flash using SmartSwitch? Or should I just root, or too soon, as I read the note 10+ may be on the list for one or even maybe two more updates? If for sure no chance for updates I would most likely root, but what are your thoughts? I want a secure device, & I don't want to pay $1500 for a $600, then a $800, then a $1000, $1500000 for a inflatisanity device when This note 10+ running max memory, is immaculate, not a scratch & runs fantastic I'd would have been using it 1.5yrs ago if I wouldn't have lost it. Please give me (us) good news as it sleeps with me under my pillow
Thanks guys.. as I'm always grateful
BliTzer
Congratulations. The N10+ is Samsung flagship's at their zenith.
I run 2 N10+'s still loaded with 9 and 10 by choice. Updates/upgrades can and do break things. This one in my hand will be 3 yo in October. It looks and runs like new.
Current OS load is over 2 yo, security is not an issue. Anything from Pie or above is relatively secure if you don't do stupid things.
I recommend you stay on 11.
I see no great benefits to scoped storage and 12 is a mess. I prefer Android 9; more functionality with trusted 3rd party apps.
blackhawk said:
Congratulations. The N10+ is Samsung flagship's at their zenith.
I run 2 N10+'s still loaded with 9 and 10 by choice. Updates/upgrades can and do break things. This one in my hand will be 3 yo in October. It looks and runs like new.
Current OS load is over 2 yo, security is not an issue. Anything from Pie or above is relatively secure if you don't do stupid things.
I recommend you stay on 11.
I see no great benefits to scoped storage and 12 is a mess. I prefer Android 9; more functionality with trusted 3rd party apps.
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Your the 2nd person to tell me slowly backup then run from anything above 11. Ok, well I'll stay as is. I run SD maid pro to clean & keep storage out of a mess, & I don't download anything, & don't open emails if not on contact list. I also have note 9 & a Samsung S8 which has a 570 PPI 4k capabilities truly amazing device. I wish my 50" TV looked that clean..I'm so done with LG TVs btw, huge problem with their Chinese WiFi cards, same TV with 6 cards changed out.
Thanks for the advice.. very grateful..
Later BliTzer
Try this settings mod, blocks adware globally and some blacklisted sites...
I had a scripted malicious jpeg I downloaded about 2 years ago. It damaged files in the download folder but not folders or the files in them when I opened it.
Spotted it right away and deleted it. Some files were repairable and the rest I deleted. No real damage. However if that got into my database on the SD card it wouldn't have been pretty.
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Try this settings mod, blocks adware globally and some blacklisted sites...
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I have been using Adguard for ad blocking and tracking on android and also widnows for a long time. It even blocks ads on youtube. The software is very good, but remember that it is Russian soft. Hell can see what data and where it can send it.