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Me myself and I are running Android Revolution HD 6.0 with Perseus 29 kernel on my grey Note 2. With this perseus kernel you have a few audio options through sTweaks but I can't get my 24bit 96Khz FLACS sound like I would like to.. The bass keeps sounding a little woozy.. I would like to have cleaner bass and a little more detailed mids.
I am doing my listening test with 3 pairs of headphones (Stock Samsung earphones, B&W C5 in-earphones and cheapass Sehnheiser HD201 headphones)
I am using different albums for my test containing: Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon, Michael Jackson - Thriller, Kendrick Lamar - Good Kid, Beatles - Love. These albums are all 24 bits and 88.2Khz or 96khz and played with Neutron Music Player.
Mods and apps I tried:
AC!D (works but better without stweaks.. stweaks seems to overrule some stuff wich results in distortion)
Awesome Beats (doesn't seem to work on my rom and kernel)
Neutron Music Player (Fine player with some nice audiophile options but poor interface)
Sony Walkman Player (Doesn't want to install)
sTweaks (Haven't found right settings for it yet and I don't want it to interfere with AC!D)
The problem is them interfering with each other.. I think AC!D does a fine job but its interfering witch sTweaks I guess.. Still some sort of distortion.
What do you run on your Note 2 to get the purest audiophile possible sound out of it? Please also note what rom and kernel you are running not every mod is compatible with every rom or kernel.
Have you tried installing Beats audio Installer [ROOT] from the Play store it helped my sound alot make sure you make a nand backup though you cant un install it.
What rom and kernel are you running this Beats installer on?
Im using omega 8.0 rom with the acid mod installed and sony walkmann player. im only using stock headphone atm but the sound is great on them.
Ive included in the post the sony walkman app that works with my note 2 and the acid mod which needs to be flashed via cwm. If this helps please hit the thanks button.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056415
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Im using omega 8.0 rom with the acid mod installed and sony walkmann player. im only using stock headphone atm but the sound is great on them.
Ive included in the post the sony walkman app that works with my note 2 and the acid mod which needs to be flashed via cwm. If this helps please hit the thanks button.
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I don;t know how you find it, but I used this for a while then uninstalled as was draining my battery too quickly. Walkman standalone fine, but not with the mod. However Beats worked well with Walkman.
In my mind there is currently no doubt which kernel has the best wolfson mod: neak. It's a combination of scoobydoo and another mod whose name escapes me.
Perhaps its bass frequency tuning will remedy some of your issues. The mids are also more pronounced when using dac direct in my opinion.
All these software mods never impressed me, no offense to anyone.
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In my mind there is currently no doubt which kernel has the best wolfson mod: neak. It's a combination of scoobydoo and another mod whose name escapes me.
Perhaps its bass frequency tuning will remedy some of your issues. The mids are also more pronounced when using dac direct in my opinion.
All these software mods never impressed me, no offense to anyone.
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Would you please comment on the ability to control the headphone amplifier and the Media Volume independently like could be performed on the SGS with Voodoo Sound? I don't have a Note 2 yet--- one of my main purchasing decisions is based on the ability to use Scoobydoo/STweaks to control the headphone amplifier volume independently. Thanks in advance.
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Would you please comment on the ability to control the headphone amplifier and the Media Volume independently like could be performed on the SGS with Voodoo Sound? I don't have a Note 2 yet--- one of my main purchasing decisions is based on the ability to use Scoobydoo/STweaks to control the headphone amplifier volume independently. Thanks in advance.
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Yes, sort of, in neak there is a volume hack similar to the one in voodoo, which makes you able to override the channel volume, so that the end result is about the same as with voodoo.
Your situation sounds very much like mine, I came from the sgs and took a leap of faith hoping that some voodoo mod would arise at some point, and it did! :thumbup:
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Interesting, I suppose I will have to see how development for the Verizon variant goes. Hopefully, I will be able to find a way to get Scooby/STweaks working like Voodoo. It is hard to try until I get the device, but my upgrade is at the end of the week!
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In case anybody cares, Perseus kernel with Stweaks allows to independently control headphone amplifier volume and media volume. It is essentially the same features as Voodoo, but without the Voodoo app. It is under the Audio section of Stweaks.
Awesome!
ok i got a pair f beats solo and they are overwellmed if i turn up the volume all the way up ... and i was able to do that by frst rooting my device and flashing UNEAK kernel it comes with wolfson audio and just go to play store and download uNEAK engine app and you will have close to pc sound out of your note 2 just make sure your headphones can handle the power your phone will put out .. like i said i got a pair of solos that cant keep up .. its time to upgrade my headphones ... power amp player is a good player too alot of otions but love the MUSIC SQUARE FEATURE ON STOCK PLAYER
noozy 1.1.14 classic
An audiophile grade music transport designed to enhance the listening experience for the on-the-go audiophile. The “noozy” features a premium audio player that lets you experience the best possible sound quality from your music library.
Introducing the advanced sound engineering from “Noozxoide Laboratories“. The noozy exclusive special effect VSP “EIZO-rewire M Series” delivers software-layered 32bit floating-point processing power bringing the superior and aggressive sound that ever made. The new VSP processing and mixing each FX separately, you can fully take control of your content effects.
“ESX acoustic engine” for headphone deliver fake-Crossfeed effect, automatic basic toning and acoustic restoration, added premium deeper bass enhancer “MaxxBass II UltraLinear” giving more speaker sizes and psycho-acoustic bass effect up to 1.8 octave that can merely punch a hole on the floor. It’s an earth-shattering bass enhancer FX taken from “EIZO-rebirth TX” Cinema Edition and special tuned for music content.
“Crystalyzer” and “Soundfield Attack” give you more detailed and deliver ultra-higher resolution possible. Which makes crystal-clear and re-mastering the world full of symphony of sounds. The “NuVocal UltraLinear” re-shape the vocal/phases sound clearer, acting acoustic restoration.
The state-of-the-art AVLS system normalizing from song to song without even needed to pre-analyze the song volume-level, also act as a smart overload protection system.
In this “Classic” edition, DFX Switcher allows you to use either Internal or External audio filter network, so that you can experience two different kinds of VSPs. If you are tired listening to the aggressive sound for a very long hours, there are several VSP series available in the market which you can use them as an External DFX network for your new sound modeling again. So you get nothing less than exceptional sound performance, every time. Now doesn’t that sound great?
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Yesterday I See In The Google Play, Support For DSP Manager, ViPER FX And ViPER XHiFi, Working Very Well On My SIII Mini With PAC Rom (By Maclaw Studio)
PLEASE USE PROFESSIONAL HEADPHONE OR PRACTICAL SPEAKERS TO EXPERIENCE IT. RECOMMENDED TO USE HEADPHONE AMPLIFIER
AGGRESSIVE SOUND CAN DAMAGE TO YOUR EARS WHEN LISTENING TO A VERY LONG HOUR IN EXTREME SETTINGS. STOP USING IT IF YOU ARE FEELING UNCOMFORTABLE
READ THE GRAPHICAL USER MANUAL PROVIDED. THIS PRODUCT HAS LIMITED HARDWARE COMPATIBILITY
(tech: this app uses emulation technologies to communicate with the compatible libraries as a medium (alsa driver) and interprets directly to the DAC chip and doesn't require external libs, it simply took over it, brought to you by "Noozxoide SoundXEMU" sound-cross-emulation)
Supported Formats: MP3, OGG, (AAC, M4A), FLAC-16
DAC-2-EMU (M): S-Master HX (100%), BurrBrown (100%), Sabre (100%), Wolfson (100%)
I Can't Attach The APK, I Think ´Cause I'm Newbie ... So Here's The Playstore Link. Sorry For That.
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dogsbark.noozy&hl=en
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I think that SRS enhancement makes music sound better, much better than DSP or Beats, at least in my old HTC Desire HD, i miss such a great SRS, but I need power, so i bought OG Could someone port this -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2353148 ?
Have you tried Viper4Android? Very nice music enhancement...
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Have you tried Viper4Android? Very nice music enhancement...
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Is Viper4Android compatible with OG? I downloaded zip pack from vipersaudio.com , when i was trying to flash it (i use Philz Touch Recovery , CWM based) , i got "installation aborted" message. Tell me, what i should do, because I'am very curious, i hope that mod mentioned by you is not so crappy as Noozxoide (it had only compessor working, any other fx didn't gave me any difference on very good headphones)
Yes it's. Others users have installed it. Search here in XDA the apk file.
edit: link --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2456073
If you get a zip (probably you got it but don't install trough cwm), unzip and install as a normal apk and follow instructions,
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Yes it's. Others users have installed it. Search here in XDA the apk file.
edit: link --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2456073
If you get a zip (probably you got it but don't install trough cwm), unzip and install as a normal apk and follow instructions,
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Oh, thank you Viper4Android provides really good sound, it has great benefits (but some drawbacks too).
I haven't tried Convolver yet, because i did'nt downloaded plugins yet. .
My feelings are that:
-Bass is not so powerful as I wanted, but it's quite natural
-Higher freqs are good, i think they are better than using DSP Manager
-I like so much Haas Surroround effect, but it lowers bass
-Other Surroround effects are just bad as DSP Manager Virtual Surroround effect.
-In my opinion FIREqualizer is the same as in DSP Manager
But there are the main disadvantages:
-Even if the bass is so low (i mean deep), it's distorted a bit, when there's a bit more of bass. SRS provides ultra low freq, pumping bass without any distortion.
-Midtones and sound dynamics, there's no "WOW" effect, there's no depth they are a bit flat I remember well how SRS made midtones were so intense, like SRS could auto-fit to every other song/tracks.
Your suggestion helped me much,anyway if someone will port SRS to our phones, i'll try this "beauty"
Old love will not be forgotten:laugh:
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Oh, thank you Viper4Android provides really good sound, it has great benefits (but some drawbacks too).
I haven't tried Convolver yet, because i did'nt downloaded plugins yet. .
My feelings are that:
-Bass is not so powerful as I wanted, but it's quite natural
-Higher freqs are good, i think they are better than using DSP Manager
-I like so much Haas Surroround effect, but it lowers bass
-Other Surroround effects are just bad as DSP Manager Virtual Surroround effect.
-In my opinion FIREqualizer is the same as in DSP Manager
But there are the main disadvantages:
-Even if the bass is so low (i mean deep), it's distorted a bit, when there's a bit more of bass. SRS provides ultra low freq, pumping bass without any distortion.
-Midtones and sound dynamics, there's no "WOW" effect, there's no depth they are a bit flat I remember well how SRS made midtones were so intense, like SRS could auto-fit to every other song/tracks.
Your suggestion helped me much,anyway if someone will port SRS to our phones, i'll try this "beauty"
Old love will not be forgotten:laugh:
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Hİ,
I also installed it but there not any change at stock music player.
How did you make it work?
Could you please tell me?
I followed all the instructions from V4A thread but no success :/
I am rooted and unloced with stock rom.
Thank you very muchhh ...
srcsntrk said:
Hİ,
I also installed it but there not any change at stock music player.
How did you make it work?
Could you please tell me?
I followed all the instructions from V4A thread but no success :/
I am rooted and unloced with stock rom.
Thank you very muchhh ...
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So...here you can have some problems because:
-stock player (you mean LG's player?), problably it won't work, you have to use any music player which support external equalizer (try Google Music Player, or Apollo).
-if you you Superuser instead SuperSu, you can have problem with V4A
-if you have any other "Equalizer app" like DSP Manager or Awesome BEATS, or AC!D or Noozxoide, you should delete them and restart the device, or just run V4A, go to V4A's Settings and try safe/compability mode, and restart of course
I not am sure, will it be working on stock, but it's working on CM based roms, you can try modded stock roms like SAVVY or Epsilon
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So...here you can have some problems because:
-stock player (you mean LG's player?), problably it won't work, you have to use any music player which support external equalizer (try Google Music Player, or Apollo).
-if you you Superuser instead SuperSu, you can have problem with V4A
-if you have any other "Equalizer app" like DSP Manager or Awesome BEATS, or AC!D or Noozxoide, you should delete them and restart the device, or just run V4A, go to V4A's Settings and try safe/compability mode, and restart of course
I not am sure, will it be working on stock, but it's working on CM based roms, you can try modded stock roms like SAVVY or Epsilon
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- Yes I mean stock LG music player (Tried poweramp but no success again)
- I have superSu.
- I dont have any other equlazer app.
- I also think that it is because of stock launcher.
The last thing I havent tried yet is the Apollo music app.
And could you also please tell me where are those drivers are installled?
After I install V4A and its drivers, I do not see any driver folder in my folders.
thanks again,
srcsntrk said:
- Yes I mean stock LG music player (Tried poweramp but no success again)
- I have superSu.
- I dont have any other equlazer app.
- I also think that it is because of stock launcher.
The last thing I havent tried yet is the Apollo music app.
And could you also please tell me where are those drivers are installled?
After I install V4A and its drivers, I do not see any driver folder in my folders.
thanks again,
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Hello,
The problem is that sometime it is working and sometime not. I have stock and shuttle player. I have got it to work on stock as on shuttle, but not every time. You can check by selecting driver status in Vfx (for headset or phone speaker) if it is enabled as well if it is working.
When it work, its great.
I am also rooted and on stock rom.
BR
twicefooled said:
Hello,
The problem is that sometime it is working and sometime not. I have stock and shuttle player. I have got it to work on stock as on shuttle, but not every time. You can check by selecting driver status in Vfx (for headset or phone speaker) if it is enabled as well if it is working.
When it work, its great.
I am also rooted and on stock rom.
BR
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Can you confirm that it works with another music app (like apollo) except LG stock music app?
Thanks
srcsntrk said:
Can you confirm that it works with another music app (like apollo) except LG stock music app?
Thanks
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yes, it is working, when it is working with shuttle player
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=another.music.player&hl=en
twicefooled said:
yes, it is working, when it is working with shuttle player
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=another.music.player&hl=en
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I tried it with Shuttle music app but no sucess
Could you please tell me the steps that I should follow?
I installed V4A and when music player is working I check the "Enable" checkbox then I check the driver status it says "Enabled: NO"; "Processing: NO".
What can I do to make it work, please help me, you can also PM me.
Thank you very much.
srcsntrk said:
I tried it with Shuttle music app but no sucess
Could you please tell me the steps that I should follow?
I installed V4A and when music player is working I check the "Enable" checkbox then I check the driver status it says "Enabled: NO"; "Processing: NO".
What can I do to make it work, please help me, you can also PM me.
Thank you very much.
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I think the problem is stock rom...maybe it doesn't support external eq's. Just try stock modded like Epsilon or SAVVY. Don't worry, you can backup your app data (savegames, and various in-app settings) by using Titanium Backup. V4A is working for sure in any CM based rom. So I recommend you flashing Vanir, PAC-Man or ThinkingBrigde.
any problems that can be (if you really want to stay on your current rom):
-when you launch V4A app first time, does it asks you for SuperUser/root permission? It must asking for root permisions, without this, it won't work
-how did you installed V4A? flashing it from .zip file is not the best idea, my suggestion is downloading it from Play Store (yep, this one with chineese or japanese chars)
BTW, it was using V4A but I'm not so pleased from using it. When I found my fav presets for some songs, they were sounded (sorry 4 my english) much better, i felt they are wider in sound, but when I listened other songs, which they was surroround effects (stereo effects-yep, I am talking about electronic dance music) without modifying sound, with the same presets, all the effect was worse than without V4A. Generally, some some sound better, some worse using it. Furthermore V4A, distortes bass a bit too much, so instead of ultra loooow and clear bass, we have sth nice but distorted , even with using limiter. It's only my opinion, but trust me I am almost audiophile (lol) . I think the genius of SRS WOW HD (the same as in Desire HD) is that, it's changes own presets dynamically, depending of songs (omg, what a shame that SRS is ported for Optimus L7 but not our OG ).
You can try AC!D Sound Mod too, it should be working using stock rom, but I'm not sure if it's fully working, it has some partial bugs and missing some features. The most universal Equalizer at this moment is DSP Manager
banangrg said:
I think the problem is stock rom...maybe it doesn't support external eq's. Just try stock modded like Epsilon or SAVVY. Don't worry, you can backup your app data (savegames, and various in-app settings) by using Titanium Backup. V4A is working for sure in any CM based rom. So I recommend you flashing Vanir, PAC-Man or ThinkingBrigde.
any problems that can be (if you really want to stay on your current rom):
-when you launch V4A app first time, does it asks you for SuperUser/root permission? It must asking for root permisions, without this, it won't work
-how did you installed V4A? flashing it from .zip file is not the best idea, my suggestion is downloading it from Play Store (yep, this one with chineese or japanese chars)
BTW, it was using V4A but I'm not so pleased from using it. When I found my fav presets for some songs, they were sounded (sorry 4 my english) much better, i felt they are wider in sound, but when I listened other songs, which they was surroround effects (stereo effects-yep, I am talking about electronic dance music) without modifying sound, with the same presets, all the effect was worse than without V4A. Generally, some some sound better, some worse using it. Furthermore V4A, distortes bass a bit too much, so instead of ultra loooow and clear bass, we have sth nice but distorted , even with using limiter. It's only my opinion, but trust me I am almost audiophile (lol) . I think the genius of SRS WOW HD (the same as in Desire HD) is that, it's changes own presets dynamically, depending of songs (omg, what a shame that SRS is ported for Optimus L7 but not our OG ).
You can try AC!D Sound Mod too, it should be working using stock rom, but I'm not sure if it's fully working, it has some partial bugs and missing some features. The most universal Equalizer at this moment is DSP Manager
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Thank you very much mate
Acid is the better, I used all the equalizer, but acid with fauxsound is the best.
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procut said:
Acid is the better, I used all the equalizer, but acid with fauxsound is the best.
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Does Acid has compatibled with kitkat yet?
No Acid for Kit Kat yet.
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If you are using ViPER4Android please try this:
Ultimate Music Effects Mods and Settings
This is a tutorial on using audio mods and settings to achieve maximum sound quality from the devices you are using. Any decent pair of headphones or earphones are capable of delivering much higher quality sound than they do using default device settings and equalizers, and you'll be surprised how far a little tweaking will take your whole music experience.
Mods You Will Need
The magic is made possible entirely thanks to ViPER's Audio,http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2191223, which you will need to install to use the settings described in this thread. Visit the ViPER's Audio page (linked above) and follow their instructions listed in their thread to get ViPER4Android FX installed on your device.
You will also need DSP Manager for a single setting in this tutorial, I've attached the APK for DSP Manager 2.0
The Settings
Once you have ViPER4Android FX and DSP Manager installed, use the following settings to take your music to a whole new level.
ViPER Settings...
MASTER POWER
Enable: This must of course be enabled to switch on the music effects.
PLAYBACK GAIN CONTROL
Enable: Enable PlaybackAGC
Effect Strength: Moderate
Max Gain: 4x
Max Output: -1.9dB
Leave FIREQUALIZER, CONVOLVER, FIELD SURROUND, DIFFERENTIAL SURROUNND, HEADPHONE SURROUND +, and REVERBERATION disabled.
DYNAMIC SYSTEM
Enable: Enable dynamic system.
Select Listening Device: Set to Common Earphone V2
Select Dynamic Bass: Set to 33%
Tube Simulator: Leave tube simulator disabled
FIDELITY CONTROL
Enable Viper Bass: Enable Viper Bass
Select Bass Mode: Set to 40Hz (I've chosen this because it significantly enhances the bass experience in music, by making the bass more "felt" than heard. This makes bass feel more powerful and realistic, but because it requires a decent set of earphones or headphones to actually work properly. By setting the Bass Boost higher for less powerful speakers, it may be possible to achieve the desired bass effect. If bass seems too weak at 40Hz, feel free to set it to 60Hz or even 100Hz as required. Because 40Hz takes real speaker power to pull off, I've noticed that for most earphones it makes bass crisp and powerful without completely overpowering music.)
Select Bass Boost: 10.0dB (for use with a Bass Mode of 40Hz on most headphones and earphones, but may be adjusted as needed on less powerful speakers)
Enable Viper Clarity: Enable Viper Clarity
Select Clarity Mode: Set to XHiFi (I've found that XHiFi enhances the highs and vocals much more effectively than Natural, and really emphasizes sounds that may not even have been heard before)
Select Clarity: Set to default (This ensures that even though highs and vocals are more prominent, they are not overpowering)
AUDITORY SYSTEM PROTECTION
Enable Cure Tech+: This setting is completely optional. Leaving it unchecked ensures that every single detail of music is still heard, while checking it slightly removes very high highs and protects your hearing.
Select Binaural Level: If you do enable Cure Tech+, I'd recommend at least a Moderate setting to truly benefit from the setting. It doesn't have too much of a negative impact, and after getting used to it, music still sounds amazing.
MASTER GATE (LIMITER)
Output gain: 0dB
Channel Pan- 0.5:0.5
Limit Threshold: 0dB
DSP Manager Settings...
The only thing you need to change in DSP Manager is setting
DYNAMIC RANGE COMPRESSION
Enable: Enable Dynamic Range Compression
Select Effect Strength: Extreme
(This brings all elements of the music to an equal volume, which makes music much more detailed and brings out sounds you never heard before, while keeping any bass or vocals from becoming too powerful)
You can double check all of these settings in the images attached.
Remember to hit the Thanks button if your music has never sounded better
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You need to change the UI to Expert.
I've not installed DSP Manager at the moment and I've changed only the parameter in bold to 6dB, because the sound was a little bit low...
Edit: I advice to keep DSP Manager, the sound improvement is notable!
Hey guys,
I don't know if this fits in this thread, but you were already speaking about it.
So my question is: How to get Viper4Android flawlessy working on the Optimus G? I have tried it many times and with different versions on the stock rom (rooted of course), but when i got i to work and rebooted the phone it didnt work anymore.
It only worked with Neutron Music Player and then I rebooted the phone and it didnt work!
Please help me
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How are people dealing with the audio problems on the Mi Max? It is affecting the Global MIUI 7&8 and the China MIUI 8 ROM. Xiaomi has done nothing despite many complaining on the MIUI forums for months. Even the latest ROM has the same problems.
The output through the headphone jack is half the volume it should be. You can easily listen to YouTube at full volume and it's not even loud. Also the sound quality is appalling with quiet vocals and heavy bass even without using the system EQ (which crashes anyway in MIUI 7). There is also a noticeable hissing/static though headphones for a few seconds before and after a system sound plays, but listening to music doesn't have the same problem.
Considering its a standard Qualcomm DAC used in many phones its terrible what Xiaomi has done to mess up the output. My Mediatek powered phone from 2012 sounds so superior and with the Mi Max being a media consumption aimed phone it's a real poor effort.
I believe the phone is taking a low internal DAC output (caused by a bug) and amplifying it hence the distorted sound and low max volume. It's the only thing I'm extremely disappointed with and wondered how others are handling the issue?
By ditching MIUI...!?
Does the Mi Max not have these issues running CM etc?
I'm sure many are currently using MIUI and I won't be ditching it at least until the years warranty is up, also want to see what MIUI 9 is like based on Nougat.
F27 said:
Does the Mi Max not have these issues running CM etc?
I'm sure many are currently using MIUI and I won't be ditching it at least until the years warranty is up, also want to see what MIUI 9 is like based on Nougat.
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Except some low volume issues which are fixed now haven't heard of much complains...
nijel8 said:
Except some low volume issues which are fixed now haven't heard of much complains...
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https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=m...i+max+sound+problems+site:en.miui.com&start=0
F27 said:
How are people dealing with the audio problems on the Mi Max? It is affecting the Global MIUI 7&8 and the China MIUI 8 ROM. Xiaomi has done nothing despite many complaining on the MIUI forums for months. Even the latest ROM has the same problems.
The output through the headphone jack is half the volume it should be. You can easily listen to YouTube at full volume and it's not even loud. Also the sound quality is appalling with quiet vocals and heavy bass even without using the system EQ (which crashes anyway in MIUI 7). There is also a noticeable hissing/static though headphones for a few seconds before and after a system sound plays, but listening to music doesn't have the same problem.
Considering its a standard Qualcomm DAC used in many phones its terrible what Xiaomi has done to mess up the output. My Mediatek powered phone from 2012 sounds so superior and with the Mi Max being a media consumption aimed phone it's a real poor effort.
I believe the phone is taking a low internal DAC output (caused by a bug) and amplifying it hence the distorted sound and low max volume. It's the only thing I'm extremely disappointed with and wondered how others are handling the issue?
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I can confirm the low headphone volume bug exists for some media/music player apps on the miui 8 global rom. However, there's an easy workaround. Open Google play music app and play an audio file in that app. Increase the headphone volume from that app beyond the 'Warning: high volume can damage hearing' volume level. Leave the headphone volume at the highest setting. Close Google play music app. The next time you play audio in your preferred media player (other than Google play music), it should already be fixed. If you don't have Google play music, you can download it from Google Play store.
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https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=m...i+max+sound+problems+site:en.miui.com&start=0
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That wasn't necessary... I am well aware of all things about Mi Max from day one.
And you were asking about CM so...
I thought my new earphones were faulty when I used them in my Mi Max. I was going to give them away but then I read about sound problems on Mi Max. Both my xiaomi phones have poor sound quality, mi4 always had poor quiet sound.
The low volume has been fixed for me on g8
There's some cracking but that's sorted by clean cache in the play music app there's also a equaliser in the app settings
This is a workaround for get high volume during listening to music by using IEM/Headphone. Only work with poweramp v3 alpha build 703/704
(Please Google it for APK. It's free in Poweramp forum)
Install poweramp v3 alpha, go to setting > resampler.
Select resampler type > SoX
Resampler cutoff frequency ratio > 97% ~ 99%
Dither > Improved e-weighted noise shaping (Poweramp indicate it slow but actually it fast enough)
Tap back button and select Hi-Res Output and then turn on Wired headset/aux (it will upsampled lossy format thus higher volume and audio quality improved a little bit. Another thing is make sure the 24-bit Snapdragon DAC is activated during listening session).
WARNING: Lower the volume at 20% or lower before activating Hi-Res output during playback. Trust me you'll thanks me later xD
If you can hear distorted sound at high volume, go to replay gain (RG), set preamp for songs without RG info to -7dB. (Just to make sure the sound is not clipping).
The Mi Max audio quality is pretty good even the DAC is just an integrated DAC.
In the screenshot is DSD128 playback. Working but it was downsampled. As for 24bit/96kHz source, it will upsampled to 192kHz.
Thank you for the replies. I have tried upping to volume in Google Play Music and it did increase the volume in other apps by around 20% so it's a start and thank you for the tip but it's still not really near the quality and loudness it should be for a stock Qualcomm 652 DAC. I will give the V3 Poweramp beta trick a try. I am currently using the Poweramp Pro to listen to music and the Mi Max sounds poor.
Basically Xiaomi need to go through how MIUI is handling audio and overhaul it imo, and hopefully version 9 won't need any of these work arounds because I've never had trouble on other budget phones... or I'm off to another ROM!
F27 said:
Thank you for the replies. I have tried upping to volume in Google Play Music and it did increase the volume in other apps by around 20% so it's a start and thank you for the tip but it's still not really near the quality and loudness it should be for a stock Qualcomm 652 DAC. I will give the V3 Poweramp beta trick a try. I am currently using the Poweramp Pro to listen to music and the Mi Max sounds poor.
Basically Xiaomi need to go through how MIUI is handling audio and overhaul it imo, and hopefully version 9 won't need any of these work arounds because I've never had trouble on other budget phones... or I'm off to another ROM!
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If you want more loudness still, louder than what the stock MIUI 8 can give you, I suggest you install music players with a 'pre-amp'. Neutron is one of my favorites among 'audiophile' grade music players (though I like BSPlayer more due to its multimedia capabilities). You can download the trial version of 'Neutron' at Google playstore (or purchase the full version if you are satisfied with the player.) Here are screenshots of Neutron music player where the pre-amp was adjusted (above zero) so as to increase the Mi Max's maximum attainable headphone volume (without buying an external portable headphone amp). Please note that too high a pre-amp setting can cause audio clipping which results to bad sound quality.
As to sound quality, yes the Mi Max headphone sound quality is really poor out of the box (MIUI 8). I have an Audio technica ATH-M50s/LE headphones which I used to listen to FLAC music on my previous Huawei Mate 7 phone. The sound quality was just ethereal. It's like listening to live musicians. I missed the headphone sound quality on my Mate 7 [DTS enabled] using the Audio technica as my headphones and BSPlayer as my preferred player (highlights the Audio Technica's strengths). Anyway, when I changed to the Mi Max, I used the same Audio Technica headphones only to be disappointed. I found out the Mi Max can't quite match the Mate 7's music reproduction [headphone DTS enabled] using the same music player (BSPlayer) or any music player for that matter. Fortunately, the Mi Max comes with headphone settings and a built in equalizer. Did a little experimentation and came up with the following settings that managed to somehow 'resemble' what my previous Mate 7 phone was able to deliver with regard to sound quality. Please note your mileage may vary depending on the quality of the headphones you use and your preferred media or music player:
1. Set Mi sound enhancer to 'ON'. Choose 'Mi headphones'.
2. Set the equalizer as follows:
These settings should improve the Mi Max's sound quality tremendously... Well, at least from my experience --- using the same Audio technica headphones and BSPlayer music player as audio player. I've saved the custom equalizer settings above as 'Mate7' because it reminds me of the sound quality of my previous Mate 7 phone. It's not a perfect match, but at least it comes close. Please note you really need good quality over-the-ear headphones if you want to overcome the Mi Max's 'poor headphone audio' shortcomings. Alternate headphones that I have thoroughly listened to and would also highly recommend are the B&W P7 and Sennheiser Momentums. I would have bought the B&W P7 had I not auditioned the Audio Technica side-by-side it and the Sennheiser Momentums. If you are serious about audio but can't give up the Mi Max for another phone with better audio components, then the recommendations above are about as good as the Mi Max can get.
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If you want more loudness still, louder than what the stock MIUI 8 can give you, I suggest you install music players with a 'pre-amp'. Neutron is one of my favorites among 'audiophile' grade music players (though I like BSPlayer more due to its multimedia capabilities). You can download the trial version of 'Neutron' at Google playstore (or purchase the full version if you are satisfied with the player.) Here are screenshots of Neutron music player where the pre-amp was adjusted (above zero) so as to increase the Mi Max's maximum attainable headphone volume (without buying an external portable headphone amp). Please note that too high a pre-amp setting can cause audio clipping which results to bad sound quality.
As to sound quality, yes the Mi Max headphone sound quality is really poor out of the box (MIUI 8). I have an Audio technica ATH-M50s/LE headphones which I used to listen to FLAC music on my previous Huawei Mate 7 phone. The sound quality was just ethereal. It's like listening to live musicians. I missed the headphone sound quality on my Mate 7 [DTS enabled] using the Audio technica as my headphones and BSPlayer as my preferred player (highlights the Audio Technica's strengths). Anyway, when I changed to the Mi Max, I used the same Audio Technica headphones only to be disappointed. I found out the Mi Max can't quite match the Mate 7's music reproduction [headphone DTS enabled] using the same music player (BSPlayer) or any music player for that matter. Fortunately, the Mi Max comes with headphone settings and a built in equalizer. Did a little experimentation and came up with the following settings that managed to somehow 'resemble' what my previous Mate 7 phone was able to deliver with regard to sound quality. Please note your mileage may vary depending on the quality of the headphones you use and your preferred media or music player:
1. Set Mi sound enhancer to 'ON'. Choose 'Mi headphones'.
2. Set the equalizer as follows:
These settings should improve the Mi Max's sound quality tremendously... Well, at least from my experience --- using the same Audio technica headphones and BSPlayer music player as audio player. I've saved the custom equalizer settings above as 'Mate7' because it reminds me of the sound quality of my previous Mate 7 phone. It's not a perfect match, but at least it comes close. Please note you really need good quality over-the-ear headphones if you want to overcome the Mi Max's 'poor headphone audio' shortcomings. Alternate headphones that I have thoroughly listened to and would also highly recommend are the B&W P7 and Sennheiser Momentums. I would have bought the B&W P7 had I not auditioned the Audio Technica side-by-side it and the Sennheiser Momentums. If you are serious about audio but can't give up the Mi Max for another phone with better audio components, then the recommendations above are about as good as the Mi Max can get.
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FYI, the audio quality pretty impressive with IEM (Audio Technica ATH-IM50 and Trinity Audio Engineering Delta). You feel the sound is not quite loud enough because of internal amp suck. Mi Max can't handle high impedance headphone like yours (ATH-M50X). To overcome your problem, you have to pair your Mi Max with portable amp such as fiio e11k.
btw, didnt you noticed your source is clipping too much across low freq??
Actually the 'Neutron' screenshots did not show any headphones attached. The music was played on Mi Max's loudspeakers which can't reproduce low frequency so you can't hear the clipped low frequency sounds. The recording is actually only piano, vocals and cymbals. The low frequency is from instrument feedback (low frequency hum). On my ATH-M50s/LE headphones, that volume level would have been half as much since 100% is already too loud, eliminating the low frequency clipping. I don't need an external amp for my headphones. They're loud enough for me except for some Chesky recordings.
At the end of the day we shouldn't need to do any of these fixes and tweaks to make the sound from the Mi Max reasonable, Xiaomi should fix it but it seems they have very poor customer service when it comes to feedback and bugs. This Qualcomm DAC chipset is in many phones yet they don't have sound quality and loudness issues. I don't expect perfection but the Mi Max out of the box sounds worse than by budget Mediatek powered phone from 4 years ago!
i modded the mixer_paths files to make the sound louder. My roms all include this already. You need to make sure in your build.prop that fluence is enabled by making sure there is a line that says ro.qc.sdk.audio.fluencetype=fluence and make sure the two lines persist.audio.fluence.voicecall and persist.audio.fluence.speaker are set to true. Then flash this in twrp or replace your three mixer paths files in system/etc with the ones in the zip file.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5I_q70mNuR4c1pxODNpTk12Y2M/view?usp=sharing
AeroMiku said:
FYI, the audio quality pretty impressive with IEM (Audio Technica ATH-IM50 and Trinity Audio Engineering Delta). You feel the sound is not quite loud enough because of internal amp suck. Mi Max can't handle high impedance headphone like yours (ATH-M50X). To overcome your problem, you have to pair your Mi Max with portable amp such as fiio e11k.
btw, didnt you noticed your source is clipping too much across low freq??
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Try out Foobar2000 (available on the Play Store, free & open source) instead of Neutron & you can skip the entire default sound processing with usage of the Open SL sound output & you will find a built in DSP section mostly sufficient. I am against modifying sound picture to much & as much as I sow in GSM Arena review the output sound picture is almost perfect & thick behind iPhone 6s (I plan to buy Max now). Rest is mostly influenced by quality of sound source & used headphones. For more well use dedicated external DAC & Amp.
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i modded the mixer_paths files to make the sound louder. My roms all include this already. You need to make sure in your build.prop that fluence is enabled by making sure there is a line that says ro.qc.sdk.audio.fluencetype=fluence and make sure the two lines persist.audio.fluence.voicecall and persist.audio.fluence.speaker are set to true. Then flash this in twrp or replace your three mixer paths files in system/etc with the ones in the zip file.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5I_q70mNuR4c1pxODNpTk12Y2M/view?usp=sharing
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Would actually rather increase (in small steps) output volume
In <!-- Play Scenario --> section for headphones & speaker if I whose you.
Don't exaggerate with it!
Best regards.
I did the opposite and reduced headphone volume to get rid of the hissing. I had the same problem on the Note 3 Pro, on MIUI 8 and CM13/CM14, so it's down to how the Qualcomm mixers are configured. By reducing gain and turning off companders you're dropping the noise floor. The drawback is that headphone volume is low, so this hack only works well with low impedance IEMs like Xiaomi Pistons.
1. Get rooted, open up all mixer_path_*.xml files in /system/etc.
2. Change HPHL Volume and HPHR Volume to a low value like 2.
3. Change any Comp* Switch values to 0.
4. Change RX HPH Mode to CLS_H_HIFI
5. Reboot and enjoy.
My own solution - Use VLC. Fixes the volume problem well - after you set the Audio Output to ES
skerry2006aj said:
My own solution - Use VLC. Fixes the volume problem well - after you set the Audio Output to ES
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Use Foobar2000 instead, VLC is bad when it comes to music.
Is there a way to control the DAC via viper 4android, so that it amplifies the viper effects or the sound?
From what I've done by installing V4A as a magisk module, DAC works as usual and V4A on top, certainly, sounds better, but i thinks still has little bit quiet sound...
I still have the feeling that if I let run in parallel with viper that the viper sound sometimes a little bit steer? and I think that the profiles of the DAC do not quite harmonize with viper? So I thought, if there is a possibility, that you can turn the dac on and off, but tonal only steers over viper
I think the sound does not sound as clean and clear as on my z2. even without dac. actually the LG would have to sound much better than my z2. I'm a little bit mystified. I've already disabled the LG Equalizer, but has not brought any improvement with Viper4android
lol you guys are trying to fix something that isn't broken. in fact, you're trying to fix the most outstanding feature of this phone!
At least it would be nice if you could switch off the standart equalizer. because the profile is Normal, it does not mean at the same time that the equalizer is off. then I suspect that if I have viper installed, there are problems with the volume. that the lg and viper hinder each other and that's why such a bad sound arises, even if the dac is off
Do you unterstand at all how viper vs build-in DAC works?
The only way, afaik, for bypass the default EQ and filters is using USB audio player Pro, since pass bitperfect data to the DAC skipping any post process.
To be honest I don't know why you want to use viper, you only add a lot of junk to the sound, don't get me wrong but If you're not happy with the sound maybe you should buy better headphones.
is there anyone who can port Viper4android for the G7? I found out that some of the original sound files have to be changed or replaced. if it should sound neat and clean.
can someone tell me what the file is responsible for in the directory vendor / radio?
because I have now deleted this file and still the LGEqualizer apk and have the pure sound of tidal. and it sounds a lot better. I just wanted to know what the file in the radio folder is good for.