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So here I am, ready to root and all read up on the procedures and methods on how to root and so on, yet, one question remains;
What ROM do I choose?
I've been looking at various options, such as ARHD and CM10 nightly but even with all the reading of both presentations for popular ROM's and the threads themselves with feedback and so on from users, I still cannot decide which one to use, so I thought I'd reach out to the community!
I've got a list of certain requirements/desired software, but first I got to ask another question, with the official HTC JB update hiding just behind the next creek for me, with it quite possibly arriving next week for my area and type of phone, is it worth waiting until developers dissect it and take out the good parts and throwing the bad ones away and then merge it into their own creations?
Either way there are some requirements/wishes I have, such as;
Jellybean (4.1.1 or 4.1.2, but 4.1.2 is of course, prefered)
No bloat (I despise bloat)
Good Performance, I don't mind tweaks and optimizations, I'm all for it.
Better battery life, when the phone isn't in use, I realize that using more power through performance enhancements is paradoxal to this, so if good battery life when idle isn't at all possible with better performance, do tell!
Multilanguage (English language, but I need Swedish keyboard)
Flash support would be good, but it's not required. As far as I understood, they removed this in JB, but if I'm wrong, do tell!
I am indifferent to a sleek, non bloated version of Sense 4+, but with a new version of Sense coming in the JB update, this might not be optimal and the stock Android UI might be a better choice then.
Some of my friends in other circles recommended ASOP/ASOP K based ROM's, any comments on these?
This is pretty much it, if you got good suggestions or comments, please do tell!
Well you either want the benefits of Sense or you don't. Sense based roms are better in that they are optimised with the correct drivers and such. And sense is improved upon in the Jellybean builds. Only you can decide if you like sense and it's benefits or want a vanilla rom.
As for choosing a rom, try them all, pick one test it and monitor your battery life with your own usage if you don't like it try another and see if it improves on battery and such.
No one can say one rom offers better battery life over another as battery is totally user dependent based on their usage, type of data used, signal strength, etc.
If your phone has a matching CID for the current leaked JB roms then feel free to try any of the builds.
You can easily debloat manually by using root Explorer or even rom cleaner can debloat for you.
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nikzDHD said:
Well you either want the benefits of Sense or you don't. Sense based roms are better in that they are optimised with the correct drivers and such. And sense is improved upon in the Jellybean builds. Only you can decide if you like sense and it's benefits or want a vanilla rom.
As for choosing a rom, try them all, pick one test it and monitor your battery life with your own usage if you don't like it try another and see if it improves on battery and such.
No one can say one rom offers better battery life over another as battery is totally user dependent based on their usage, type of data used, signal strength, etc.
If your phone has a matching CID for the current leaked JB roms then feel free to try any of the builds.
You can easily debloat manually by using root Explorer or even rom cleaner can debloat for you.
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Alright, as I said I was indifferent, but if I have to choose, I'd rather use Sense than stock, so if you want to suggest a ROM, do go with Sense primarily.
I'm not one to reflash my phone all the time, I was back when I was younger, but today I prefer stable "don't need to touch again" software!
Yes, my phone have HTC_Y13 as it's CID, so it's compatible.
Thanks about the suggestion about using root explorer to debloat the phone, but in this case I'd rather prefer it not being installed at all in the first place.
As for battery lifelength, fair enough, but if there is a ROM that advertises it's amazing battery life it's a good point.
EDIT: Seeing as I'm leaning towards Sense, is there any point to getting a custom ROM with Sense 4.1 right now? If I need to reflash the phone in a week to get 4.5, I can't say it's all that compelling to root and flash this moment.
Try OrDroid but it's based of the HOX+ base the new version like ARHD12 and such based on the new X+ bases but their older versions are based on the leaked JB builds for HOX.
OrDroid has a handy app removal selection whilst installing in aroma to un install bloatware that comes installed.
And I've been getting good battery life from it.
But they are all very similar so bare that in mind. It's kernels that improve battery but no source code as of yet for the new JB kernels.
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nikzDHD said:
Try OrDroid but it's based of the HOX+ base the new version like ARHD12 and such based on the new X+ bases but their older versions are based on the leaked JB builds for HOX.
OrDroid has a handy app removal selection whilst installing in aroma to un install bloatware that comes installed.
And I've been getting good battery life from it.
But they are all very similar so bare that in mind. It's kernels that improve battery but no source code as of yet for the new JB kernels.
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If I read your post right, I shouldn't have any problems with using HOX+ based ROM's such as ARHD12 correct? Looks like ARHD is where it's at.
The biggest things I noticed with ARHD on my DHD were the huge optimisations in performance and battery life!
I have used both cyanogenmod nightly Builds and paranoid android on my international htc one x. Currently using PA. My advise would be to test both and more. Different strokes for different folks. Use apps like SwiftKey to help with language items and juice defender to help with the poor battery life of this device (as I watch it drop 2 percent as I write this message) I'm going to buy the Mugen battery pack!! Always backup up a good mod using Cwm!!! For fast swapping
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Great White said:
If I read your post right, I shouldn't have any problems with using HOX+ based ROM's such as ARHD12 correct? Looks like ARHD is where it's at.
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That's correct mate. It will work.
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Hi!
Do you know what ROM is the fastest (with better performance) for our Nexus? I don't care if it is Stock or Custom, all I want is the better performance/battery life rom possible.
I am now with CM11 unoficial by playfulgod and I like it because it is 4.4, but the phone takes too long to open the apps and lags a little bit in fast transactions....
EDIT: I also don't care about the version, 4.4, 4.3, 4.2, 4.1, anything... the changes are minimal from 4.1 to 4.3 and 4.4 has its pros and cons
Flash and find out. Thats your best option.
Edit: Wrong section. Sorry. How the h*ll did i end up in Galaxy Nexus section.
I'm using CM official nightlies and find it quite good. I found 4.3 faster but like others have said it's a case of trying different rom / kernel combinations. What works well for me night not be much good for you and vice versa. A lot of different factors come into play. Apps used, background apps etc.
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badboy47 said:
I am using N5 Port with Franco Kernel. Its very fast with great battery life. Every kernel has its own pros and cons. Try different kernels.
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YOU ARE POINTING HIM TO A NEXUS 4 ROM! :banghead:
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all roms give the fastest and good performance.. its all depend on you.
so far after 1 week experiments.
i use gnex + extended battery + slimkat 4.4.1 + A.S.K.P kernel + odexed + run perfomance scripts + tweak build prop = superb. already 4 hour screen on... with over 50% balance battery..
galaxy nexus i9250
I have just flashed Gummy's 4.4 rom just trying it out from BelieveRom. I was looking for something faster with some of the new features and this had most of them. Real smooth so far with steady battery use on stock kernel. Will try some other kernels to see if it will add the butter.
I'm running swordrune10's cm11 its pretty good
memaro_maro said:
all roms give the fastest and good performance.. its all depend on you.
so far after 1 week experiments.
i use gnex + extended battery + slimkat 4.4.1 + A.S.K.P kernel + odexed + run perfomance scripts + tweak build prop = superb. already 4 hour screen on... with over 50% balance battery..
galaxy nexus i9250
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Care to lay out all the tweaked build prop, performance scripts? How big is this extended battery? Is it the one from Verizon that Samsung made or is it one of those big 3,000+ sized ones that makes the phone super thick? seeing 4 hours of screen on time and only half battery used seems too good to be true.
thanks guys!
I will try a few roms here and give you the feedback later
The performance were only good on 4.1.2
dsummitt said:
Care to lay out all the tweaked build prop, performance scripts? How big is this extended battery? Is it the one from Verizon that Samsung made or is it one of those big 3,000+ sized ones that makes the phone super thick? seeing 4 hours of screen on time and only half battery used seems too good to be true.
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im use the super big extended battery.. 4000 mah.. its big but worth it.
i dont like to use power bank as alternative.
im using pure performance™ scripts.. but carefull in scripting, it may cause overwrite the existing build.prop.
additional of using performance control. apk> download from fdroid repo. its seem to be easy to use for tweaking ram performance. especially for noob likes me.
sorry for my bad english..
galaxy nexus i9250
Thats pretty nice. It seems way big for me though. I'm not a make the phones a slim as you can kind of person, but i do like a happy medium.
Vanir is pretty smooth and fast. Battery isn't greatest but performance kicks ass on my toro. 4.4 flies but still has black boxes
Yes, Vanir is very smooth. But the most important is to install custom kernel. For now the best are ASKP and Mpokang SuperRAM. If you install one of these kernels, i think every ROM will be smooth.
I suggest to try MetalOmni - very fast 4.4 ROM.
ITS ALL YOUR OPINION. FLASH AND FIND OUT. These threads arent even allowed. And on top of that: how would you feel if you had put alot of effort into making a ROM and people dont like it because its "slow". Just try and find out seriously. Youre maybe the 100th with this thread. This will probably be closed in a couple of days.
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well, then I will have to flash all the roms there are to see for myself which one is the best in terms of speed. considering that there are at least 5 different roms just for 4.4 and for 4.3 (and previous) there are much more roms... I would need to flash about 20 roms (or more) and test them at least a day or two to see which ones are better... By my calculations, I will need at least 1 month. Considering that android isn't my life, I have many other things more important to do, I will spend more than a month doing that testing thing...
So, do you really think I can test them all for myself? Shouldn't I ask here for names of the best roms in terms of speed that many members have tested? This way I will only test the 3/4 most mentioned, not the all 20. I know that the developers do a lot of work in their roms, but there are ones better than others for many things, I don't think the developer of rom X would mind if I prefer the rom Y from other developer because it is faster. Maybe the rom X has more options and other things, but lacks in speed, so the developer of rom X isn't interested in making a rom for speed, it isn't inferior to the other rom, just different.
If this thread is locked, even finding it unfair and kind of stupid, I don't really care. I already got a few opinions and I'm testing some roms here. Thanks a lot for the ones who helped me and aswered this thread.
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well, then I will have to flash all the roms there are to see for myself which one is the best in terms of speed. considering that there are at least 5 different roms just for 4.4 and for 4.3 (and previous) there are much more roms... I would need to flash about 20 roms (or more) and test them at least a day or two to see which ones are better... By my calculations, I will need at least 1 month. Considering that android isn't my life, I have many other things more important to do, I will spend more than a month doing that testing thing...
So, do you really think I can test them all for myself? Shouldn't I ask here for names of the best roms in terms of speed that many members have tested? This way I will only test the 3/4 most mentioned, not the all 20. I know that the developers do a lot of work in their roms, but there are ones better than others for many things, I don't think the developer of rom X would mind if I prefer the rom Y from other developer because it is faster. Maybe the rom X has more options and other things, but lacks in speed, so the developer of rom X isn't interested in making a rom for speed, it isn't inferior to the other rom, just different.
If this thread is locked, even finding it unfair and kind of stupid, I don't really care. I already got a few opinions and I'm testing some roms here. Thanks a lot for the ones who helped me and aswered this thread.
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You want the fastest and super smooth? OmniMetal (ROM come with Mpokang kernel). You will be happy and let me know how it works out..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2532320
Gummy AOSP 4.4 ROM with Mpokang kernel SuperRam!
The fastest of all. Mpokang kernel is miles ahead of other kernels. Most RAM and fastest performer!
antypas said:
Gummy AOSP 4.4 ROM with Mpokang kernel SuperRam!
The fastest of all. Mpokang kernel is miles ahead of other kernels. Most RAM and fastest performer!
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Well, you got me curious.
I am currently testing SlimKat ROM and it looks fast enough for me.
Unfortunaly, it's still on beta (4.4 KitKat), so you might expect a few bugs.
Still, it's a good ROM, in my opinion.
Hallo Guys!
I have bought a Zenfone 2 WW Edition and I read a lot about the ASUS ZenUI (a lot of apps that no one needs). Now I'd like to know if there is any Rom that's slim. I don't like the oversupply of apps that every developer forces you into. I only need the bare necessities and i want to use the full function-range of the hardware
is there any rom, that someone of you would recommend?
thank you,
mnhds
I'm using SuperZen, wich is the zenUI, but with removed bloatware. The bloatware didn't really annoy me, but the battery drain sure did. Using this rom along with the Project T kernel improved my battery life considerably. There's also Cyanogen if you dislike the UI, but it still has a few bugs.
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I'm using SuperZen, wich is the zenUI, but with removed bloatware. The bloatware didn't really annoy me, but the battery drain sure did. Using this rom along with the Project T kernel improved my battery life considerably. There's also Cyanogen if you dislike the UI, but it still has a few bugs.
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i read about the Super Zen and i think i will try it. i hate bloatware. i really would like to have MIUI on the zenfone 2 but i think its a bit difficult to optimize the rom for intel processors.
thank you for your answer!
I'm on the blissPop since 10 days
I'm really satisfying, it's based on CM with lot of customization
mnhds said:
i read about the Super Zen and i think i will try it. i hate bloatware. i really would like to have MIUI on the zenfone 2 but i think its a bit difficult to optimize the rom for intel processors.!
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yeah, porting things to the x86 processor is causing some trouble to developers, but we're seeing progress every day, so I believe it's just a matter of time before we have completely stable ROMs besides stock (which is not that stable also lol) .
I don't have time to test every single rom so I want to ask the people on here what they think is the most stable rom. I don't really care about features I just wanna know which one has the best battery life, less bugs etc.
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I don't have time to test every single rom so I want to ask the people on here what they think is the most stable rom. I don't really care about features I just wanna know which one has the best battery life, less bugs etc.
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Stock.
indian84 said:
Stock.
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Yes stock was ok but I am asking for the custom ROMs
I settled on SAOSP after many weeks of testing many different ROMs. Seems best to me, combined with EX kernel
ABC-Rom, no bugs, stock feeling:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=97792&sort_by=date&sort_dir=DESC
based on my experience, DU, LOS, and AOSPA.
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paranoidandroid ROM is awesome!
PureNexus or PixelROM
You could also look at Carbon Rom or Tesla (other GZR Roms are available ) or AospExtended or Slim
Then you have the Lineage based ones such as crDroid
I prefer the ones which are true to the Nexus look rather than Pixel Wannabes. But that's the beauty of the old Nexus phones that it very much whatever floats your boat.
@tactical bacon: that's, why 'best rom'-threads are unwanted here. Finally you get a complete list of all settled ROM.
Features and base are given in each OP. Battery-life depends on your usage.
PureNexus. Great team, solid ROM, nice features, quick updates, and very helpful thread.
I saw several people installing custom roms and the performance of the device improved a lot! I would like to know how these roms do it
If we talk about MIUI here it's full of bloat and far from AOSP (stock Android) and I think the focus is features, over performance.
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If we talk about MIUI here it's full of bloat and far from AOSP (stock Android) and I think the focus is features, over performance.
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They also clearly copy some UI Design from iOS
which is not bad... It looks good.
But my biggest problem with MIUI is that, it breaks standard Android features.
Like broken Gestures on 3rd-Party Launchers.
Or the MIUI Permission-system breaking apps like Instagram.
or MIUI's battery optimisation being too extreme...
I don't hate MIUI, but it's 很胖 (very fat)
Custom ROMs are not bad per se, but they are made for ppl who want their phone to run without gving it too much thought. MIUI is not the worst Stock ROM imho, but clearly made for John D. Noob.
If you debloat MIUI, you can get along with it if you don't need to much customization.
Btw, battery is usually best on stock ROMS in my experience.
But if you want real control over your phone, or need features that the manufacturer doesn't want you to have, you deffo need a custom ROM.
Also, you need to take into account that a manufacturer doesn't earn a penny for giving out updates and patches, so they tend to keep their fuzz to a minimum.
I usually move away from a stock rom as updates are slow to arrive.
When i was looking for a upgrade for my LG G7, i settled for the F3 because it was Very good value for money, was easy to unlock and had great Dev support on XDA.
For me the other downside of a MIUI stock rom apart from the bloat ware and slow updates, was not being able to use my Samsung Smartwatch as a trusted device, as Miui Stock would only permit Xiaomi devices.
Switching to the Evo-X rom, gave me back all the functionality I needed and is fast enough for me.
tanukitanuki said:
I saw several people installing custom roms and the performance of the device improved a lot! I would like to know how these roms do it
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custom roms, nah
custom modifications, yes
you can reach same or more performance on stock, if you just modify it
most or all custom roms are modified by the rom dev ofcourse, that is why its got better performance than stock
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I saw several people installing custom roms and the performance of the device improved a lot! I would like to know how these roms do it
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Stock roms add much more functionality, then become bigger and slower
Customs roms are mostly based on AOSP, which is pure android. Less functionality = Lighter and faster rom
And for customs roms like Xiaomi.EU, well they simply edit some parts of the rom, adds fixes and remove some useless stuff, which again make the OS lightweight and faster
of course, that's more complicated in fact, and lighter rom doesnt mean faster, you can make a very heavy system work very fast with optimization. 'Optimization', you see, a word that most of roms dev like Xiaomi doesnt know about
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Stock roms add much more functionality, then become bigger and slower
Customs roms are mostly based on AOSP, which is pure android. Less functionality = Lighter and faster rom
And for customs roms like Xiaomi.EU, well they simply edit some parts of the rom, adds fixes and remove some useless stuff, which again make the OS lightweight and faster
of course, that's more complicated in fact, and lighter rom doesnt mean faster, you can make a very heavy system work very fast with optimization. 'Optimization', you see, a word that most of roms dev like Xiaomi doesnt know about
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dont go around dissing devs without knowing anything about them
pretty sure devs hired by big companies like xiaomi would know about optimizations better than any custom rom dev
when custom rom devs start making bug free roms, go around dissing stock devs as you like
If you have a sub-flagship or flagship device it doesn't matter if that's a Xiaomi or not changing your rom into custom rom is kinda useless, because the stock rom is good enough and more stable(not 100% stable) and if you longing for more performance for flashing an AOSP base rom it's kinda useless base on my experience because it only increases like 1-2% in pure stock no modifications especially in Poco F3.
For me AOSP roms are only good for midrange and lowend devices, i have spare phone here it's RN8 and i changed my rom from MIUI to AOSP and the difference is night and day my mind is blown to the ram management.
From the first day i was in ArrowOS because Miui roms was a little poor in performance, not so much fast like AOSP roms, but one day i tried one of the last stable Miui EU roms and i was impressed how good became, sound and haptics it's just much better than AOSP, autobrightness works as intended, camera it's better that Gcam and SOT it's (in my use, the same).
So i'm with the last comment, in Poco F3 i think the last MIUI EU for example isn't bad, phone runs well and all works. Just tried the last Stable MIUI 13 and now the MIUI 14 EU beta build and i think it's a little more smooth than previous build.
I think any phone with A13 will run smoother than A12.1 builds, in my old Mi A1 just noticed that (and it's too old).
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Also, you need to take into account that a manufacturer doesn't earn a penny for giving out updates and patches, so they tend to keep their fuzz to a minimum.
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Nah, dude.
They took money in advance for that. On the other hand, people buy pixel devices because they have updates guaranteed.
They do earn money from it indirectly. A lot. Otherwise it wouldn't have been a thing.