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I'm freaking out and need some help. I recently rooted my S3 and everything went smoothly. I was running stock android 4.1.2 I think (multi-window feature) with root. Wanted to flash the cyanogemon 10.1 rom. I got titanium back up,backed up eveything. Flashed it. Seemed to be working normally but as I tried to restore my apps and things from the titanium back up it went all wrong. "Unfortunately,Email has stopped,the process android,process media has stopped. Also says process.acore has stopped and process.gapps has stopped pop up that is constant. I freaked out and tried to go back to normal and now I'm screwed.
I tried recovery and it tells me I dont have a OS on my phone. I than decided to Unroot the phone and start from a fresh stock android but it seemed like it worked 50%. I see the background and it shows me the set up google account for the phone but the pop up messages haven't stopped.If I go into the normal recovery and wipe data/factory reset will it solve the issue? And if it will should I choose to wipe cache partition first before doing so?
Which recovery do you have? Also I never backup system apps such as email, because they change when going from 1 rom to the next. No OS means you wiped system, without having another ROM saved on your sd card. If your computer still sees the internal and external memory and your custom recovery is still working, you should be able to save a new rom, do a full wipe-system, data, cache, dalvik cache. Then flash rom you already saved to your memory. I take it you didn't do a Android backup after you rooted and flashed custom recovery?
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Miguelcoo1 said:
I'm freaking out and need some help. I recently rooted my S3 and everything went smoothly. I was running stock android 4.1.2 I think (multi-window feature) with root. Wanted to flash the cyanogemon 10.1 rom. I got titanium back up,backed up eveything. Flashed it. Seemed to be working normally but as I tried to restore my apps and things from the titanium back up it went all wrong. "Unfortunately,Email has stopped,the process android,process media has stopped. Also says process.acore has stopped and process.gapps has stopped pop up that is constant. I freaked out and tried to go back to normal and now I'm screwed.
I tried recovery and it tells me I dont have a OS on my phone. I than decided to Unroot the phone and start from a fresh stock android but it seemed like it worked 50%. I see the background and it shows me the set up google account for the phone but the pop up messages haven't stopped.If I go into the normal recovery and wipe data/factory reset will it solve the issue? And if it will should I choose to wipe cache partition first before doing so?
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Ok, first I'll describe what you did and how that (most likely) messed up your phone. Then I'll describe what you can do to fix it.
Problem
It seems like your original flash of CM10.1 went smoothly. It must have been something to do with your Titanium Backup (TiBu) restores. More than likely, you tried to restore too much. In TiBu, the different apps have different colors: Red, Yellow, Green, and White. In the menu, you can see the following Legend:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
White: User Application. These are apps that you installed from the Play Store or sideloaded by directly installing an apk. These are safe to restore.
Red: System Application. These are system files that heavily rely on which Android version (4.1.x vs. 4.2.x) and whether you're on TW or AOSP. I always try to avoid restoring these backups (even when just upgrading to a newer version of the same Rom). Some people will say that you can restore the Data only for these, but my motto is: caution will help prevent mistakes (ground-shaking, I know).
Green: System Service with Useful Data: These are system apps that have useful information (such as User Accounts, etc.). I treat these the same as Red Backups, but am a bit more likely to restore the data of them (green means go, right?).
Yellow: These backups are system data that can be restored as an xml file. These are inherently safer than the red and green ones, and I say restore away (I always restore my Call Log, Messages, and Wi-Fi Access Points).
The reason you were getting FCs was restoring a red or green backup. This can sometimes work, but has a lot of potential for issues when switching between TW and AOSP Roms. Most likely something in your /system folder is messed up due to restoring an app. Even when you flash a new Rom, it just overwrites items in your System folder, it doesn't wipe /System. So whatever is wrong in your /System folder is still there, regardless of what you flash.
Ok, now that we've identified what's wrong with your phone, we can now help solve it!
Solution/Fixes
Are you able to get into a custom Recovery? If not, you need to use Odin and follow The Rooting Guide to get back to a custom recovery (I recommend TWRP, but CWM is just as good).
Next, you want to download a Rom and put it on your device. I'd recommend (just for now), to get Freeza's stock TW Rom.
Now, before you try to flash this Rom, you'll have to wipe. In order to get rid of the FCs, you'll have to at least wipe System. I'd recommend a full wipe of your Internal SD Card (after backing up anything you want to save), but it's not technically necessary. Afterwards, you can wipe data and cache/dalvik cache.
Then you can flash your Rom. It seems like you know how to do this, but in case you don't, I have previously posted directions over here.
Hope this helps!
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So you never had a custom recovery, like CWM or TWRP? Also I never backup system apps such as email, because they change when going from 1 rom to the next.
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I did have a Custom Recovery. I believe it was TWRP. I think all this happened was because when it occured I might of went into the recovery and accidently wiped system. I know that the phone didn't have OS on it and was blank. It just stayed on the Samsung boot screen. About 20 minutes ago I tried to unroot the phone and start with stock android. I didn't have much important stuff on my phone so I don't mind. The problem is when I did that it seemed to work. Only to find out that the pop-ups still exist and are constantly popping up where I cant do anything.
I would it worked seeing as though I can go into my stock recovery mode. Could it be possible to just wipe everything there and factory reset it or would it brick the phone? Also if I can just factory reset it through the stock recovery should I wipe the cache partition first?
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Ok, first I'll describe what you did and how that (most likely) messed up your phone. Then I'll describe what you can do to fix it.
Problem
It seems like your original flash of CM10.1 went smoothly. It must have been something to do with your Titanium Backup (TiBu) restores. More than likely, you tried to restore too much. In TiBu, the different apps have different colors: Red, Yellow, Green, and White. In the menu, you can see the following Legend:
White: User Application. These are apps that you installed from the Play Store or sideloaded by directly installing an apk. These are safe to restore.
Red: System Application. These are system files that heavily rely on which Android version (4.1.x vs. 4.2.x) and whether you're on TW or AOSP. I always try to avoid restoring these backups (even when just upgrading to a newer version of the same Rom). Some people will say that you can restore the Data only for these, but my motto is: caution will help prevent mistakes (ground-shaking, I know).
Green: System Service with Useful Data: These are system apps that have useful information (such as User Accounts, etc.). I treat these the same as Red Backups, but am a bit more likely to restore the data of them (green means go, right?).
Yellow: These backups are system data that can be restored as an xml file. These are inherently safer than the red and green ones, and I say restore away (I always restore my Call Log, Messages, and Wi-Fi Access Points).
The reason you were getting FCs was restoring a red or green backup. This can sometimes work, but has a lot of potential for issues when switching between TW and AOSP Roms. Most likely something in your /system folder is messed up due to restoring an app. Even when you flash a new Rom, it just overwrites items in your System folder, it doesn't wipe /System. So whatever is wrong in your /System folder is still there, regardless of what you flash.
Ok, now that we've identified what's wrong with your phone, we can now help solve it!
Solution/Fixes
Are you able to get into a custom Recovery? If not, you need to use Odin and follow The Rooting Guide to get back to a custom recovery (I recommend TWRP, but CWM is just as good).
Next, you want to download a Rom and put it on your device. I'd recommend (just for now), to get Freeza's stock TW Rom.
Now, before you try to flash this Rom, you'll have to wipe. In order to get rid of the FCs, you'll have to at least wipe System. I'd recommend a full wipe of your Internal SD Card (after backing up anything you want to save), but it's not technically necessary. Afterwards, you can wipe data and cache/dalvik cache.
Then you can flash your Rom. It seems like you know how to do this, but in case you don't, I have previously posted directions over here.
Hope this helps!
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Well as of right I believe I just unrooted the phone and went back to stock android because when I try and go into recovery mode, it gives me the normal stock recovery. I thought it would work but needless to say the applications pop-ups saying it stopped working is still happening. I can see the google account set up but cant do anything because of the pop-ups and also theres a I icnon with a no symbol around it on the top left corner (dont know what that means). Is it possible to factory reset and wipe the data from this stock recovery? And if so should I wipe cache partition first?
Also thanks for the help. My head hurts trying to figure out how to fix this...It just seems like everything I try and do makes it worse or the same.
Miguelcoo1 said:
I did have a Custom Recovery. I believe it was TWRP. I think all this happened was because when it occured I might of went into the recovery and accidently wiped system. I know that the phone didn't have OS on it and was blank. It just stayed on the Samsung boot screen. About 20 minutes ago I tried to unroot the phone and start with stock android. I didn't have much important stuff on my phone so I don't mind. The problem is when I did that it seemed to work. Only to find out that the pop-ups still exist and are constantly popping up where I cant do anything.
I would it worked seeing as though I can go into my stock recovery mode. Could it be possible to just wipe everything there and factory reset it or would it brick the phone? Also if I can just factory reset it through the stock recovery should I wipe the cache partition first?
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It's not gonna work because you wiped system, and now you have stock recovery. I would follow topherk's post above this one. Very well written.
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Miguelcoo1 said:
Well as of right I believe I just unrooted the phone and went back to stock android because when I try and go into recovery mode, it gives me the normal stock recovery. I thought it would work but needless to say the applications pop-ups saying it stopped working is still happening. I can see the google account set up but cant do anything because of the pop-ups and also theres a I icnon with a no symbol around it on the top left corner (dont know what that means). Is it possible to factory reset and wipe the data from this stock recovery? And if so should I wipe cache partition first?
Also thanks for the help. My head hurts trying to figure out how to fix this...It just seems like everything I try and do makes it worse or the same.
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You're doing well, don't get too frustrated.
Stock recovery is relatively limited and it won't be able to wipe what you need to wipe. When you do a factory reset in Stock (or custom) recoveries, you are just wiping the /data folder. Since we've identified that it's most likely an issue with /System, a Factory Reset won't do any good.
Your best bet it to get a Custom Recovery again through the Rooting Guide. That guide is really well-written and has pictures so it's easier to follow.
After you have CWM and TWRP, it's real easy to wipe everything (in TWRP 2.5.0.0, you just wipe internal sd card and you're good to go). Or you can do a comprehensive wipe by wiping /System, /Data, Cache and Dalvik Cache. Then you can flash a Rom (again, I'd recommend Freeza's). After you get Freeza's Rom up and running, I'd make a Nandroid Backup immediately (in a Custom Recovery). This will be the backup that you can return to whenever something doesn't flash well.
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You're doing well, don't get too frustrated.
Stock recovery is relatively limited and it won't be able to wipe what you need to wipe. When you do a factory reset in Stock (or custom) recoveries, you are just wiping the /data folder. Since we've identified that it's most likely an issue with /System, a Factory Reset won't do any good.
Your best bet it to get a Custom Recovery again through the Rooting Guide. That guide is really well-written and has pictures so it's easier to follow.
After you have CWM and TWRP, it's real easy to wipe everything (in TWRP 2.5.0.0, you just wipe internal sd card and you're good to go). Or you can do a comprehensive wipe by wiping /System, /Data, Cache and Dalvik Cache. Then you can flash a Rom (again, I'd recommend Freeza's). After you get Freeza's Rom up and running, I'd make a Nandroid Backup immediately (in a Custom Recovery). This will be the backup that you can return to whenever something doesn't flash well.
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Thanks for all the help. I'm downloading the GS3 Root Kit Zip so I can follow your instructions. I'm going to try and bring my phone back to life. I'll update when hopefully its fixed lol.
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You're doing well, don't get too frustrated.
Stock recovery is relatively limited and it won't be able to wipe what you need to wipe. When you do a factory reset in Stock (or custom) recoveries, you are just wiping the /data folder. Since we've identified that it's most likely an issue with /System, a Factory Reset won't do any good.
Your best bet it to get a Custom Recovery again through the Rooting Guide. That guide is really well-written and has pictures so it's easier to follow.
After you have CWM and TWRP, it's real easy to wipe everything (in TWRP 2.5.0.0, you just wipe internal sd card and you're good to go). Or you can do a comprehensive wipe by wiping /System, /Data, Cache and Dalvik Cache. Then you can flash a Rom (again, I'd recommend Freeza's). After you get Freeza's Rom up and running, I'd make a Nandroid Backup immediately (in a Custom Recovery). This will be the backup that you can return to whenever something doesn't flash well.
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Well I did everything but flash the rom. My question is in the link you gave me to flash Freeza's rom which one do I download, The first one on the top?
Miguelcoo1 said:
Well I did everything but flash the rom. My question is in the link you gave me to flash Freeza's rom which one do I download, The first one on the top?
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I knew this question was going to pop up... I should've put it in my original post.
You're probably going to want to flash the Deodex MD4 one:
DeOdex:
Sprint Touchwiz Jelly Bean 4.1.2 L710VPBMD4
MD5: 77262D9D6CF1A6AF30A8981A95A75D57
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I find that a lot of mods require DeOdex Roms, so in case you decide to flash one in the future, it'll help to have it. And the main negative of DeOdex is a slightly longer start-up time, so I recommend people use DeOdex.
topherk said:
I knew this question was going to pop up... I should've put it in my original post.
You're probably going to want to flash the Deodex MD4 one:
I find that a lot of mods require DeOdex Roms, so in case you decide to flash one in the future, it'll help to have it. And the main negative of DeOdex is a slightly longer start-up time, so I recommend people use DeOdex.
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Ok, I'm downloading the massive zip file on my desktop and waiting for it to be finished. My question is how am I going to transfer the zip file into the sdcard? Could it be just as simple as putting the phone in download mode and connect to my computer to transfer the file? Also I wanted to know once I Flash the rom and Custom Recovery which would be TWRP to Backup does it back up everything or is there only a few things I do need to back up. I ask because as of right now my phone is shut off and doesn't have a OS on it. Just waiting on the zip file to finally flash the rom and back it up.
I also wanted to ask you about something I been thinking about. When all this mess happened because I backed up files I wasnt suppose to back up with titanium back up, the backup file still exist on my sdcard. Is it possible for me to delete everything other than just the apps and it will work fine? I ask because I'm planning on getting the Cyan 10.1 rom again because I loved it (for the few minutes it ran fine). Or should I just not do it and start fresh? Would it be possible to use those app back up files when I install titanium back up again?
Miguelcoo1 said:
Ok, I'm downloading the massive zip file on my desktop and waiting for it to be finished. My question is how am I going to transfer the zip file into the sdcard? Could it be just as simple as putting the phone in download mode and connect to my computer to transfer the file? Also I wanted to know once I Flash the rom and Custom Recovery which would be TWRP to Backup does it back up everything or is there only a few things I do need to back up. I ask because as of right now my phone is shut off and doesn't have a OS on it. Just waiting on the zip file to finally flash the rom and back it up.
I also wanted to ask you about something I been thinking about. When all this mess happened because I backed up files I wasnt suppose to back up with titanium back up, the backup file still exist on my sdcard. Is it possible for me to delete everything other than just the apps and it will work fine? I ask because I'm planning on getting the Cyan 10.1 rom again because I loved it (for the few minutes it ran fine). Or should I just not do it and start fresh? Would it be possible to use those app back up files when I install titanium back up again?
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Ok, so from what I can tell, you've already wiped your internal memory. Since you can't load up into the Rom to copy the files, there are a couple of ways to get them on your phone:
Manual Copy: Take the external Micro SD card out and pop it into an adapter and insert it into your computer to copy the file (I've done this once or twice).
Recovery Mounting as USB: If you have TWRP 2.4.1.0 or 2.5.0.0, there should be an option which allows you to mount the phone as a usb mass storage. It should be in the mount menu.
ADB Copy: Connect the phone to the computer and boot the phone into download mode. You can then use adb to copy the file over to the phone. I'm personally not very good with adb, but there are good guides on here with how to do this. (Guide 1) (Guide 2)
Once you get a Rom up and running on your phone, you won't have to do these, but since it wasn't working before, this is the way to do it.
topherk said:
Ok, so from what I can tell, you've already wiped your internal memory. Since you can't load up into the Rom to copy the files, there are a couple of ways to get them on your phone:
Manual Copy: Take the external Micro SD card out and pop it into an adapter and insert it into your computer to copy the file (I've done this once or twice).
Recovery Mounting as USB: If you have TWRP 2.4.1.0 or 2.5.0.0, there should be an option which allows you to mount the phone as a usb mass storage. It should be in the mount menu.
ADB Copy: Connect the phone to the computer and boot the phone into download mode. You can then use adb to copy the file over to the phone. I'm personally not very good with adb, but there are good guides on here with how to do this. (Guide 1) (Guide 2)
Once you get a Rom up and running on your phone, you won't have to do these, but since it wasn't working before, this is the way to do it.
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Ok, the phone is back and running good. I just flashed and its working great...Again, Thanks a lot. Thanks for being so patient with me lol. It's been a all day affair for me wit this. I just Backed up the Rom in the TWRP recovery mode and just backed up /System /Data /Boot. I also compressed it and put it on my external SD. Now that I got that out the way, I wanted to verify if my thought on using the back up files (apps only) from the last titanium backup (which messed up my phone) to maybe try and restore them to get the phone to how it was and wont lose my apps/games? Can this be done or would it be difficult to know the differences between a app and other files?
When I backup in twrp, I typically choose everything. The recovery and cache are typically so small it doesn't matter.
In terms of titanium backups, I'd say it's safe to restore any user apps, but no system apps, not even the green ones.
Glad to hear everything worked for you!
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topherk said:
When I backup in twrp, I typically choose everything. The recovery and cache are typically so small it doesn't matter.
In terms of titanium backups, I'd say it's safe to restore any user apps, but no system apps, not even the green ones.
Glad to hear everything worked for you!
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Believe me you saved me from disaster. I was going nuts trying to find a way to fix it. Glad you saw my thread and your patience to help. I'm thinking about backing up the rom again after updating all the normal stock apps but before I try and get my apps that I downloaded from the play store. I do have one quick question, The TWRP backup also backs up the apps that you have right?
I have one last question. If my backup file (titanium) is on my external SD how can I tell which apps I can restore when I download titanium back up again? Is there even a way to know?
Yeah, it's better to have a nandroid backup of your set-up phone. It makes a restore much more palatable.
In terms of TiBu, it should find your restore folder. If not, you can manually set it from the settings.
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topherk said:
Yeah, it's better to have a nandroid backup of your set-up phone. It makes a restore much more palatable.
In terms of TiBu, it should find your restore folder. If not, you can manually set it from the settings.
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I now learned to always have a nandroid backup to make life so much easier lol. My only concern with TiBu finding the restore folder on my External SD, I'm concerned that all this might happen again. So from what you told me just restore the user apps only..Nothing more? Thank you man, your a life saver.
No problem man, I enjoy helping people and it deepens my understanding of my own phone.
TiBu shouldn't restore your apps unless you tell it to. I always restore one app at a time, so I know exactly what I'm restoring. I have my TiBu to automatically backup my phone daily at 3am. It backs up everything, system and user apps. I just make sure that I only restore user apps when I flash a new Rom.
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No problem man, I enjoy helping people and it deepens my understanding of my own phone.
TiBu shouldn't restore your apps unless you tell it to. I always restore one app at a time, so I know exactly what I'm restoring. I have my TiBu to automatically backup my phone daily at 3am. It backs up everything, system and user apps. I just make sure that I only restore user apps when I flash a new Rom.
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Sorry to bother you again but I just saw something that seems pretty fishy. I been practically on Wifi since I flashed the phone and now everything works. The issue i'm seeing though is that the signal bars are good with reception yet the 3g symbol isnt showing up. I tried to make a call and it seems like it works but I can't go on the internet. It just gives me the webpage not available screen. I dont think I have a data connection..Any ideas?
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What app do I use to back my phone up to do a complete restore to where it was pre-flash. TB only restores the apps and data but not the Launcher and the way i had everything set up pre-flash. Any help would be appreciated. thanks in advance.
Need to flash a recovery and do a nandroid. TWRP 2.6.3.7. Goo manager to flash the twrp.
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Need to flash a recovery and do a nandroid. TWRP 2.6.3.7. Too manager to flash the twrp.
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Long been A fan but I just completed my first successful flash, and I used TWRP 2.6.3.1. So could you be a little more specific. I appreciate your help but I have been searching and there are explanations out there i just don't understand them. thanks again in advance.
I think 2.6.3.1 has been working for some people but I would recommend flashing .4rc2 or higher. I think all the kinks have been worked out since .4rc2. You need to hit backup and rmemeber what is ticked. Now untick that and backup efs first and store that separate and maybe even backup to sdcard or computer. Then go back and tick at least system and data for your nandroid. If you plan on flashing kernels, do boot.IMG too. Not sure about cache. I did it anyways for hahas my first backup. I don't know if you need to reset up your phone or not. And I think there have been problems with titbackup restores because of Samsung and Knox stuff. Need to read up in that for specifics. I've seen a couple custom kernel descriptions say their kernel fixes TB issues but like I said need to look around on your own as I don't really use TB. Had too many small issues so I manually cherry pick data I need and just start fresh each phone. Also been awhile since I've flashed anything because my note2 had insane chip so I didn't do anything crazy to trigger SDS. I spent all weekend researching recovery myself before I proceeded. Make sure you do the efs backup first!! In cade something bad happens youmight need that.
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i think 2.6.3.1 has been working for some people but i would recommend flashing .4rc2 or higher. I think all the kinks have been worked out since .4rc2. You need to hit backup and rmemeber what is ticked. Now untick that and backup efs first and store that separate and maybe even backup to sdcard or computer. Then go back and tick at least system and data for your nandroid. If you plan on flashing kernels, do boot.img too. Not sure about cache. I did it anyways for hahas my first backup. I don't know if you need to reset up your phone or not. And i think there have been problems with titbackup restores because of samsung and knox stuff. Need to read up in that for specifics. I've seen a couple custom kernel descriptions say their kernel fixes tb issues but like i said need to look around on your own as i don't really use tb. Had too many small issues so i manually cherry pick data i need and just start fresh each phone. Also been awhile since i've flashed anything because my note2 had insane chip so i didn't do anything crazy to trigger sds. I spent all weekend researching recovery myself before i proceeded. Make sure you do the efs backup first!! In cade something bad happens youmight need that.
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thank you so much!!!!
Thanks for this informative post.
Just to verify that it is recommended that we back up the EFS separately then backup the DATA/SYSTEM/BOOT partitions next? I would like to make sure that I will have everything needed just in case I/phone mess up somewhere along the line of flashing ROMS and themes. There seems to be more occurrences of boot-loops with the GN3 than there ever was with the GN2.
When restoring, I presume we just flash the backups then reboot as usual?
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Yeah. I backed up my efs first. Then backed up to my laptop. Then I backed up modem for haha's and to laptop. Then I backed up boot, system and data. If you don't wipe data when you're flashing around you should only need to flash boot and system. I haven't run into problems yet so I havent had to flash data. It's always been there and settings and apps have been fine.
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Apparently, TWRP v2.8.6.2 compressed images to external SD cards are damaged, and it wiped my Recovery Mode and part of my previous Stock OS LRX22G.T800XXU1BOE2 installation.
I was able to Odin a Canadian copy of T800XXU1BOCC_T800XAC1BOC4_XAC, but it isn't working properly on my SM-T800.
Can somebody please point me to a US LRX22G.T800XXU1BOE2?
Thanks,
¿GJ?
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Apparently, TWRP v2.8.6.2 compressed images to external SD cards are damaged, and it wiped my Recovery Mode and part of my previous Stock OS LRX22G.T800XXU1BOE2 installation.
I was able to Odin a Canadian copy of T800XXU1BOCC_T800XAC1BOC4_XAC, but it isn't working properly on my SM-T800.
Can somebody please point me to a US LRX22G.T800XXU1BOE2?
Thanks,
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Always check sammobile.com
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/47566/T800XXU1BOE2_T800XAR1BOC5_XAR/
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Always check sammobile.com
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/47566/T800XXU1BOE2_T800XAR1BOC5_XAR/
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Thanks, @Ramer - I checked Sammobile earlier this morning, and it wasn't there. They must have posted it later today.
I can't get to it right now, tho, their website may be having issues. I'll try later.
What do you mean the backup was damaged, what failed and which partition?
You can reflash recovery then just restore system. No need to do a full restore.
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What do you mean the backup was damaged, what failed and which partition?
You can reflash recovery then just restore system. No need to do a full restore.
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Unfortunately. @ashyx - I'm not sure exactly where now. The recovery failure was almost instant (within the first 5 to 10 steps), and I remember that the error occurred right after a progress comment about EXT4. I lost the capability to boot up, and I lost the capability to get into Recovery Mode. My only option was to stay stuck in Download Mode, and hope that my battery didn't die before I was able to get a Odin image re-installed.
It was nerve-wracking.
I wasn't sure if the tablet would be charging while in Download Mode, and there was no way (that I knew of) to get out of Download Mode. I thought there was a high probability that I was about to permanently lose my brand-new tablet.
I paid for a subscription to Sammobile to get an older image installed until someone was able to get me the more recent stock image.
I'm too nervous to try and restore the image again without need, but I will definitely do it if you want me to. I understand the urgency to make sure that TWRP makes good images 100% of the time, and I am reluctant to do anything future to my tablet if I can't make a reliable back-up.
¿GJ?
Maybe your backup somehow got corrupted.
Which partitions were you actually trying to restore? For future reference if you made a backup of recovery don't restore it. Only restore it if you want to revert to a different version.
Also don't worry about bricking your device. As long as you still get download mode you will always be able to recover. I soft brick my tablet on a daily basis lol.
The only thing you need to flash to get into a bootable state is recovery. From recovery you can usually solve most issues. Even if your battery had died you would have been able to charge it and then power it back on. Also the tablet does charge in recovery mode.
Twrp can be a funny so and so sometimes. You just get the one time when it doesn't t behave as you expect. 99% of the time though its pretty solid.
I always find its good practise to restore a backup immediately after making it to ensure its sound. You don't want to wait until its too late to find out its corrupt.
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Maybe your backup somehow got corrupted.
Which partitions were you actually trying to restore? For future reference if you made a backup of recovery don't restore it. Only restore it if you want to revert to a different version.
Also don't worry about bricking your device. As long as you still get download mode you will always be able to recover. I soft brick my tablet on a daily basis lol.
The only thing you need to flash to get into a bootable state is recovery. From recovery you can usually solve most issues. Even if your battery had died you would have been able to charge it and then power it back on. Also the tablet does charge in recovery mode.
Twrp can be a funny so and so sometimes. You just get the one time when it doesn't t behave as you expect. 99% of the time though its pretty solid.
I always find its good practise to restore a backup immediately after making it to ensure its sound. You don't want to wait until its too late to find out its corrupt.
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Thanks, @ashyx - Good advice on the partition recovery steps. Normally, I have automatically accepted the three defaults, and swiped. I will not do that anymore.
I have found TWRP to be very reliable in the past: If it's working fine, I always get a good backup. If it's failing on something, I always get a bad backup image, or always can't restore. I haven't had a random corruption yet. There was a problem I saw with TWRP and my Samsung GS3 a few years back where it would corrupt compressed archives, but uncompressed archives were fine. Maybe this is a replay on that problem.
I will backup my current CM12.1 image uncompressed, and then try just restoring my system & data partitions from the previous backup, and let you know what happens.
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Thanks, @ashyx - Good advice on the partition recovery steps. Normally, I have automatically accepted the three defaults, and swiped. I will not do that anymore.
I have found TWRP to be very reliable in the past: If it's working fine, I always get a good backup. If it's failing on something, I always get a bad backup image, or always can't restore. I haven't had a random corruption yet. There was a problem I saw with TWRP and my Samsung GS3 a few years back where it would corrupt compressed archives, but uncompressed archives were fine. Maybe this is a replay on that problem.
I will backup my current CM12.1 image uncompressed, and then try just restoring my system & data partitions from the previous backup, and let you know what happens.
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I can assure you compressed backups should work fine. I have done it countless times. Probably just a one off for whatever reason, could be a failing sd card. You may find the backup is fine and will be ok to restore. I wouldn't be afraid to try again. When a backup fails to restore you usually only get an error message not a sudden crash and reboot.
Try making a compressed test backup by just backing up the cache partition then restore.
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I can assure you compressed backups should work fine. I have done it countless times. Probably just a one off for whatever reason, could be a failing sd card. You may find the backup is fine and will be ok to restore. I wouldn't be afraid to try again. When a backup fails to restore you usually only get an error message not a sudden crash and reboot.
Try making a compressed test backup by just backing up the cache partition then restore.
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Well, as a point of reference, I just tried to restore system & data from my older (apparently corrupted) image.
I saw:
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Wiping System...
Formatting System using make_ext4s function.
Restoring System...
E:extractTarFork() process ended with ERROR=255
I will follow your suggestion, and try writing a compressed Cache backup to see what happens.
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Well, as a point of reference, I just tried to restore system & data from my older (apparently corrupted) image.
I saw:
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Wiping System...
Formatting System using make_ext4s function.
Restoring System...
E:extractTarFork() process ended with ERROR=255
I will follow your suggestion, and try writing a compressed Cache backup to see what happens.
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Is this backup also encrypted. I have seen that error with encrypted backups in the official twrp. However this was fixed with an update pushed to the twrp repo which I have incorporated into the latest build.
Does your version of Twrp show your model number at the top?
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Is this backup also encrypted?
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Yes.
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Does your version of Twrp show your model number at the top?
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No, it just shows Team Win Recovery Project v2.8.6.2. It doesn't show any Samsung model numbers (If that is what you are asking).
I installed it using your All-In-One Root/Recovery tool.
Ok I think you're actually running an earlier build. I have updated builds below.
Install one of the f2s versions from the link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...p-2-8-6-1-unofficial-sm-t800-805-807-t3074633
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Ok I think you're actually running an earlier build. I have updated builds below.
Install one of the f2s versions from the link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...p-2-8-6-1-unofficial-sm-t800-805-807-t3074633
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Thanks, @ashyx! I'll download the SM-T800 F2FS version right now.
BTW, I've been really interested in installing F2FS. One thing I have been worried about, though, is that once I go down the F2FS path, it may be easy to really mess things up. For example, if I update a ROM, I would always need to use a F2FS ROM, or I might lose all my data - is that right?
Normally you would only format the data and cache partition to f2fs. There isn't much point formatting system to f2fs.
Also f2fs requires a special kernel. Myself and Tkkg1994(Iron Rom) have been working together to get this working properly. Still testing.
We are almost there.
Once formatted to f2fs you would need to reformat back to ext4 and flash a kernel to return back to normal. You could then flash your backup.
Since rooted phones can't take OTA's, we have special considerations before updating. (flash/wipe/then recover ... ). Google restores a lot but I've discovered not many system or app settings. TWRP makes full backups, but if your data is full of pics and videos there's not enough available space for backups.
I have Titanium Backup Pro but I'm not sure 'when' to use it for recovery. Individual app restores sure, but what about a complete restore? After a flash and boot, should I bypass the Google setups, install TiB, and restore with that? Will that give me a 100% restored device (all system and app settings)?
Will this work? Is there a better strategy? Or is it impossible to get 100% recovery.
Insight/ Advice are appreciated.
Can't systemless root take OTAs?
Keithn said:
Can't systemless root take OTAs?
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From my limited understanding ... no! Any boot, recovery, or system mods cause OTAs to fail when trying to apply. Getting AP working is a different issue.
since i'm not comfortable using command line programs i find myself using NRT when an update is due. in the end it's just a graphical frontend with some instructions but it makes me feel more secure.
enough rambling, your question is answered in one of the FAQs in wugs homepage:
http://www.wugfresh.com/faqs/how-to-update-ota-not-working/ said:
If you use Titanium Backup it is recommended to only backup user apps + data (not system apps), because when you update to the new android version, the system apps are most likely updated, so restoring an old system app backup will overwrite your new system app with the legacy version; and if you were just to restore the data, it may be incompatible with the new version of the system app. There are some exceptions to this rule; as in – you might be able to get away with restoring some system data, however if you chose to go this route then make sure you just restore the data (not the app), you do so selectively (as in – one system app at a time), and you know how to delete that app data if it doesn’t work properly (Settings > Apps > All > navigate to the particular app > clear data > reboot your device.)
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following that link, i mostly find my self making complete backups with TiBa and then following option #1 for smaller updates and #2 for bigger ones.
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following that link, i mostly find my self making complete backups with TiBa and then following option #1 for smaller updates and #2 for bigger ones.
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Thanks for the valuable info. It appears a full restore (all system settings) is impossible after an upgrade/update. Maybe restoring app data with a TiBackup is possible, but I'm still confused about the 'when' to do this - after the Google restore? Bypass the Google restore?
I recently moved away from Apple where their update/upgrade restore was almost 100%. Maybe some day Google will follow and this will be a moot point.
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Thanks for the valuable info. It appears a full restore (all system settings) is impossible after an upgrade/update. Maybe restoring app data with a TiBackup is possible, but I'm still confused about the 'when' to do this - after the Google restore? Bypass the Google restore?
I recently moved away from Apple where their update/upgrade restore was almost 100%. Maybe some day Google will follow and this will be a moot point.
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google is certainly impoving on that part, it's only a matter of time until this kind of backup is fully implemented.
if you took a look at the link, you may have realised that at least with option 1 you would not have to go through the setup/restore process again.
in my case, i usually go for the restore option given, as it restores some of the system settings in a compatible way, which TiBa can not as already said.
another option, to carry over all of your settings to the update is to:
make a full backup with TiBa
unroot/reflash your current build (if you are using NRT choose 'no wipe mode' similar to the description in the FAQ. this way you don't have to restore anything and can ignore the next step.)
restore your full backup without fear of compatibility issues(never mind, can't restore system settings without root. stupid me.)
take OTA or trigger the update otherwise
in this case it would of course be pretty much useless to restore the google backup.
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google is certainly impoving on that part, it's only a matter of time until this kind of backup is fully implemented.
if you took a look at the link, you may have realised that at least with option 1 you would not have to go through the setup/restore process again.
in my case, i usually go for the restore option given, as it restores some of the system settings in a compatible way, which TiBa can not as already said.
another option, to carry over all of your settings to the update is to:
make a full backup with TiBa
unroot/reflash your current build (if you are using NRT choose 'no wipe mode' similar to the description in the FAQ. this way you don't have to restore anything and can ignore the next step.)
restore your full backup without fear of compatibility issues(never mind, can't restore system settings without root. stupid me.)
take OTA or trigger the update otherwise
in this case it would of course be pretty much useless to restore the google backup
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I checked out Option #1 and the rest of NRT for that matter. In fact I have NRT installed. What is does mostly depends upon stock and I have Pure Nexus. In addition, it's a toolkit. Toolkits isolate users from an "understanding" of the process. However, it's the understanding that is necessary to have a fully integrated backup/restore process and to respond to issues/problems that may arise. Bottom line, I don't use toolkits.
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I checked out Option #1 and the rest of NRT for that matter. In fact I have NRT installed. What is does mostly depends upon stock and I have Pure Nexus. In addition, it's a toolkit. Toolkits isolate users from an "understanding" of the process. However, it's the understanding that is necessary to have a fully integrated backup/restore process and to respond to issues/problems that may arise. Bottom line, I don't use toolkits.
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ok then, i thought your switch to android was very recent and therefore you had very little experience. indeed toolkits are in the way of a learning curve when it comes to android.
to my knowledge the closest thing you can get to a full backup/restore process for manual updates is to use the google backup to restore the system settings and use TiBa to restore your own (user)apps and data (possibly overwriting the apps google may have tried to restore/-install). with pure nexus afaik being very close to stock using the tag to not wipe user data should in theory still work without causing problems.
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ok then, i thought your switch to android was very recent and therefore you had very little experience. indeed toolkits are in the way of a learning curve when it comes to android.
to my knowledge the closest thing you can get to a full backup/restore process for manual updates is to use the google backup to restore the system settings and use TiBa to restore your own (user)apps and data (possibly overwriting the apps google may have tried to restore/-install). with pure nexus afaik being very close to stock using the tag to not wipe user data should in theory still work without causing problems.
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If I understand correctly, do you recommend allowing Google to restore everything it wants, then running TiB restore after that?
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If I understand correctly, do you recommend allowing Google to restore everything it wants, then running TiB restore after that?
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yes, basically. i would still be cautious when it comes to sms/mms and make a copy of every important file on the sdcard aswell.
the only problem i ever encountered this way was with whatsapp, which i had to reinstall and then manually move over its folder on the sd card from the previous installation.
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yes, basically. i would still be cautious when it comes to sms/mms and make a copy of every important file on the sdcard aswell.
the only problem i ever encountered this way was with whatsapp, which i had to reinstall and then manually move over its folder on the sd card from the previous installation.
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I have a separate app for call logs and SMS/text messages. I'll use it!
I always have everything on /sdcard backed up .... It's just those darn system/app settings that are missing. Oh well, thanks for your help. Think I've come a little closer to a full 100% restore.
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Since rooted phones can't take OTA's, we have special considerations before updating. (flash/wipe/then recover ... ). Google restores a lot but I've discovered not many system or app settings. TWRP makes full backups, but if your data is full of pics and videos there's not enough available space for backups.
I have Titanium Backup Pro but I'm not sure 'when' to use it for recovery. Individual app restores sure, but what about a complete restore? After a flash and boot, should I bypass the Google setups, install TiB, and restore with that? Will that give me a 100% restored device (all system and app settings)?
Will this work? Is there a better strategy? Or is it impossible to get 100% recovery.
Insight/ Advice are appreciated.
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Just follow #10 from Heisenberg's rooting guide & your apps/data stay intact.
ING3NIEUR said:
Just follow #10 from Heisenberg's rooting guide & your apps/data stay intact.
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That's the easy part! Restoring app settings and all of system settings is the hard part
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That's the easy part! Restoring app settings and all of system settings is the hard part
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As long as you follow the guide and don't wipe your phone, then there's no need to restore your apps/settings. They should still be there on your phone. The only thing you have to restore is TWRP/root.
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... The only thing you have to restore is TWRP/root.
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If a flash update is performed, do you still restore TWRP/root? I would think not as it would overwrite the newly flashed update and likely make the system unstable in the least or unbootable at the worst!
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If a flash update is performed, do you still restore TWRP/root? I would think not as it would overwrite the newly flashed update and likely make the system unstable in the least or unbootable at the worst!
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If you are rooted, your phone will not take an OTA update. So you have two options....flash the new factory image or wait for somebody to upload a flashable update zip. The easiest way is to just download and flash the new factory image. If you follow the guide, you are also flashing stock recovery. So, you have to re-flash TWRP and root. Your data/apps stay intact.
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If you are rooted, your phone will not take an OTA update. So you have two options....flash the new factory image or wait for somebody to upload a flashable update zip. The easiest way is to just download and flash the new factory image. If you follow the guide, you are also flashing stock recovery. So, you have to re-flash TWRP and root. Your data/apps stay intact.
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Thanks for you input, but after all this, at the least many system settings are lost even after Google does it's full restore. I know, I've done it many times. I'm looking for a process/strategy that restores system settings (and all data settings) after an upgrade.
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Thanks for you input, but after all this, at the least many system settings are lost even after Google does it's full restore. I know, I've done it many times. I'm looking for a process/strategy that restores system settings (and all data settings) after an upgrade.
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Im very confused by this whole thread you have unlocked bootloader rooted phone running twrp and wondering how to stay up to date with latest google factory images?
You dont have to backup your phone to install the factory images and you can flash the new one over the current one. You can simply download the latest factory image from google and manually flash the files from fastboot or use the flashall.bat. just make sure to edit the flash allscript so it doesn't flash userdata or recovery as the flashing of userdata will delete your user data)
Flash the following from the factory image. Dont flash recovery or userdata (recovery will over write twrp and userdata will wipe your data partition.
Boot.img
Cache.img
System.img
Vendor.img
Radio.img
Then boot into recovery and reinstall su.
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Im very confused by this whole thread you have unlocked bootloader rooted phone running twrp and wondering how to stay up to date with latest google factory images? ...
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No. Please re-read post #1.
I want to restore all system and app settings AFTER a flash update. It is possible to retain many (most) app settings if the internal storage is not wiped, but this does not apply to system settings.
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No. Please re-read post #1.
I want to restore all system and app settings AFTER a flash update. It is possible to retain many (most) app settings if the internal storage is not wiped, but this does not apply to system settings.
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Updates modify the system partition of the phone i have found that using titanium backup to restore system apps has always caused issues for me as the files have been modified by the update and you are then overwriting the update with settings from a previous version this can make settings copied incorrectly or cause issues with new features that have been implemented to the system partition. Personally I think it could create more issues than it solves is there a specific setting or thing you are trying to preserve?
Hi,
I recently tried a custom rom on my old phone and it worked pretty well. I liked the OS and now want to also do that on my current phone. But i do still have a few questions i hope you can help me with.
- Can i make a full backup of my phone (with app data) to my PC or maybe to my old phone? I am currently not rooted and tried helium backup but saw that sadly not all apps allow a backup.
- I know about titanium backup. Is there some way (if the above cant be done) i can root my phone without wiping the phone? So i can then use titanium backup to make a proper backup with data, then install the custom rom and after restore the apps+data.
In short: I hope i can somehow make a full backup with app data so i can install the custom rom and restore my app data again.
Looking forward to your replies.
Thanks in advance.
Nothing? No one ? =(
To root you need to unlock the bootloader, which wipes all user data. So you can't use root to backup your data. This is why I unlock the bootloader immediately after getting a phone.
You can try an adb backup though.
razr96 said:
To root you need to unlock the bootloader, which wipes all user data. So you can't use root to backup your data. This is why I unlock the bootloader immediately after getting a phone.
You can try an adb backup though.
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Thank you for your reply and thx for the tip. Ill be doing that too from now on when i get a phone.
As long as i can make a full backup with abd (with app data), Im fine with wiping to root it. But just wanted to make sure i can get app data back after the root process.
Do you happen to have a link to a proper backup using abd guide?
Thanks
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sm00th4f3 said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/how-to-backup-restore-android-device-t3602583
You might wanna read this and try it
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/adb-fastboot-commands-bootloader-kernel-t3597181
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Well with a few side searches i was able to open the cmd (admin), do a adb devices (which found a device) and then run the app + data command.
('adb backup -apk -shared -all -system -f C:\backup.ab')
I saw the screen on my phone to start it, which i did but it stays on Shared Storage (where before this mentioned the apk's that were being backed up). This is taking pretty long (as in hours). Is this normal or did something went wrong and is it stuck on that part?
Edit (Update): I stopped the whole thing and tried again. Now it finished in about 10 - 15 min. I did get a message "backup finished". However in the folder i gave up, there is nothing to see. folder is still empty
Edit2 (update): Found the backup.ab file. Apparently it was in a different folder i thought it would be. So if i then also make a copy of the internal storage and do this command, i should be good right? After doing that, unlock and root, i can use the 'adb restore C:\backup.ab' and have all apps + app data back as it was before the unlock/root ?
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sm00th4f3 said:
In a sense. Yes, but you might wanna read some threads about that first.. Otherwise. No one would wanna go back after unlocking his phone. Since restoring a backup from a locked phone on an unlocked phone can cause some issues.
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I'm not really sure what you mean though.
If i unlock my phone with my code and then make the backup with adb and just in case, a copy of my internal storage, can't i use restore on the unlocked/rooted phone to have the apps + their data back and use them again ?
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sm00th4f3 said:
No you can't. It will brick your device. The backup can only be used when your phone is still locked. So it is basically not needed at all.
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So you are saying that there is no possibility to backup my apps+data, unlock/root/custom rom, and then restore my apps+data at all?
That was some what the question of my first post.
So its either, fully wipe with everything lost, then root etc. etc. or just keep it the way i have it now?
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sm00th4f3 said:
The normal procedure is as follows:
After an unlock.- your data always gets formatted. So a backup is totally wasted time.
The backup isn't wasted time - if it is done after unlocking your phone, while it still has stock rom.
In case flashing goes wrong, make the backup while not having flashed twro etc at all.
You don't have to wipe anything if you just want root, since the phone will reset-wipe your data on its very own.
Just unlock it, let it reboot, Flash twrp, install root zip file. Reboot
In case of flashing a custom rom. Flash twrp, boot to twrp. Use the Reboot menu and reboot again into recovery
Reboot->Recovery (in twrp menu).
Then Wipe-> Factory Reset
Wipe-> Advanced Wipe-> Wipe System partition only
Wipe-> Advanced wipe-> select Data partition-> Change file system to ext4
Reboot Menu in TWRP->Recovery
Wipe Dalvik and Cache
Flash Rom
Flash Gapps if not stated otherwise in Instructions of Rom Thread
Flash Magisk or SUperSu , depends if you want root or not. If you don'T want encryption on older Roms, flash one of the two.
Encryption will later on be optional through Phone Security Options.
Wipe dalvik and cache.
Reboot.
Wait a bit.
Setup phone, done.
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Yes but as you mentioned, unlocking means a full wipe. And i cant restore apps + their data from a stock phone backup to an unlocked phone as it can cause issues.
In my very first post i asked if i could make a backup of the apps + their data to restore them after unlocking/rooting/custom rom or whatever. Simple answer then is no.
So i either have to just wipe my phone and basically start all over, only unlock/root etc etc first.
Or just keep my phone stock like how it is now and just do nothing and wait until i get a new phone (which will be in a long time still)