So since Quick Charge 3 isn't technically spec for USB C, none of the Benson Leung cables will ~actually~ charge at full Quick Charge speed, correct? Is there a consensus on the best quality cable that will charge at full speed, preferably USB 3.0/3.1? It looks like a lot of the cables with the 56k ohm resistor in it don't hit QC3 speed and I just don't want to fry my phone.
What's wrong with the cable that comes with the phone?
The one for the nexus 6p is the best I've used. I've used the lg G5 one but not the one that it comes with
The best cable is the one that comes with the phone...
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The best cable is the one that comes with the phone...
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The problem with the one that comes with the phone is it's only USB 2.0 I believe, and they're $20 cables. There's got to be better cables out there than that that are USB 3.0.
Here is the list with verified USB3.0 to type c cables.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJwqv3rTNmORXz-XJsQaXK1dl8I91V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/edit#gid=0
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Hi all,
I just have some clarification questions regarding the chaos that is currently USB-C. Will ANY USB-C with PD support charge any other USB-C phone, tablet, or laptop if those devices support PD? Do we need to ensure that the charger used supports specific charging voltages, or will any of them work at different charge rates?
I bought a 2017 HP Spectre x360 13" a few months ago. (SIDE NOTE: If you're looking, this is an amazing convertible Ultrabook... 4k screen w/ Pen, Core i7, 512GB NVMe SSD, 16GB RAM, Thunderbolt3). It charges via a 45W USB-C charger. I generally have laptop chargers everywhere, so I ordered a bulk of Dell LA45NM150 chargers from eBay. They say 5V/20V on the sticker. Should these also charge my Galaxy S8, which charges at 5V and 9V? Do chargers need to say Power Delivery or PD to meet PD spec, or does that come along with having multiple voltages.
Likewise, I am guessing my laptop NEEDS 20V to charge? So if I took say, a phone charger and plugged it into the laptop, would it just not charge since it can't switch to 20V?
I am also speculating that if a USB-C charger only says 20V on the sticker, will it fry a Galaxy S8? Or is there protection for this sort of thing?
I am no newbie to power, chargers, electronics, tech.. but there's a lot of gray area right now on this stuff it seems.
Anyone?
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Also, another related question -- Is there any advantage to using a USB-C to USB-C charging cable and brick vs a USB-C to USB-A cable with a brick?
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Also, another related question -- Is there any advantage to using a USB-C to USB-C charging cable and brick vs a USB-C to USB-A cable with a brick?
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USB-C to USB-C supports ThunderBolt 3 and USB 3.1. So faster data transfer and charging... USB-A does not support this... I think....
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USB-C to USB-C supports ThunderBolt 3 and USB 3.1. So faster data transfer and charging... USB-A does not support this... I think....
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So then, why put a USB-C port on a wall charger? Just so you can use the same USB-C to USB-C cable?
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So then, why put a USB-C port on a wall charger? Just so you can use the same USB-C to USB-C cable?
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Yeah I guess so... USB-C will be universal soon enough anyway so this will no longer be a worry haha!
I was a bit surprised to find out that the Pixel 2 doesn't come with a transfer cable, and the only adapter is USB-C to USB-A. Luckily I still had mine from the original Pixel XL, but it was odd that Google didn't include one. Just a heads up for those who haven't received there's yet
That adapter allows you to use your old charging cable to transfer. Adapter into the Pixel 2, old charging cable into adapter and into old phone
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I was surprised as well to see no USB-C to USB-A cable included. I also used mine from my original Pixel XL, but Google's cables are of such high quality that I would have loved to have another.
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That adapter allows you to use your old charging cable to transfer. Adapter into the Pixel 2, old charging cable into adapter and into old phone
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Correct, but this post isn't really about the adapter. It's about Google including one less cable versus last year. The original Pixels included the adapter, a USB-C to USB-C cable, and a USB-C to USB-A cable. The USB-C to USB-A cable is not included with the new Pixels.
And like the new Pixels, some phones these days only come with a USB-C to USB-C cable. The included adapter doesn't help in that situation. Very few devices fall into that scenario, but it still could happen.
The original came with the adapter too? I don't remember that
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The original came with the adapter too? I don't remember that
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It did indeed. I've used it frequently for USB OTG.
FYI, you cannot use a normal USB-A cable and the C-to-A adapter and connect your Pixel to a PC. It will not allow you to charge or connect to transfer files.
Really sucks, because I used this at work a lot with my original Pixel XL. Something changed with the new hardware and it prevents you from doing it. Luckily, I also have the original C to A cable that came with my XL.
Definitely a bummer for someone going from iPhone to Pixel 2. Now I have zero cables I can use to charge my new phone in my car. I left Apple because I was tired of being forced to buy extra things to do basic stuff so a little irked that I need to buy a special connector for car charging. Anyone have recommendations on a good cable that will actually work for both charging and data transfer?
They replaced it with the headphone cable.
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There are heaps of good USB C to USB A cables out there. If you need one you can buy the google one from their store. Would have been nice to get one in the box, but I still have 3 lying around that I've used for previous type C phones.
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So which third party USB C-A cables support the full 18W charging capability of the Pixel 2 besides the overpriced one from Google?
Edit: I found this one which supports USB 3 and up to 3A, if anyone is looking.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KX8A2OW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3SVXSHXC5D9W1&psc=1
No USB A-C cable supports 3A charging unless it is out of spec. Google's A-C cable does not support 18W charging.
https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/HakwCMmd346
Do not use a 3A legacy cable to charge your phone, or you may risk damaging something.
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No USB A-C cable supports 3A charging unless it is out of spec. Google's A-C cable does not support 18W charging.
https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/HakwCMmd346
Do not use a 3A legacy cable to charge your phone, or you may risk damaging something.
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Well the cable that I linked does have a 56kΩ pullup resistor, so it should adhere to the USB spec to prevent any damage.
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Well the cable that I linked does have a 56kΩ pullup resistor, so it should adhere to the USB spec to prevent any damage.
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Has anyone tested it to make sure it does though? I've seen several reviews from Nathan/Benson for cables that claim to have a proper resistor but don't.
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Has anyone tested it to make sure it does though? I've seen several reviews from Nathan/Benson for cables that claim to have a proper resistor but don't.
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Not sure if there is a way that I can test this.
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Cable does not work
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So which third party USB C-A cables support the full 18W charging capability of the Pixel 2 besides the overpriced one from Google?
Edit: I found this one which supports USB 3 and up to 3A, if anyone is looking.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KX8A2OW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3SVXSHXC5D9W1&psc=1
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That cable used to work with first pixel for fast charging but, does not work with pixel 2 I own 2 of them and was disappointed
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That cable used to work with first pixel for fast charging but, does not work with pixel 2 I own 2 of them and was disappointed
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I literally just got the cable today and noticed it's only saying charging. It should say "rapid charging" if fast charging is work correct?
Anyone confirm of a A-C cable that actually can fast charge?
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So which third party USB C-A cables support the full 18W charging capability of the Pixel 2 besides the overpriced one from Google?
Edit: I found this one which supports USB 3 and up to 3A, if anyone is looking.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KX8A2OW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3SVXSHXC5D9W1&psc=1
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I bought that and have 2 of them here. Nice cables! I can transfer data fine with them.
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I bought that and have 2 of them here. Nice cables! I can transfer data fine with them.
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I did bring up Accubattery and it will only charge at 1a even with a 2.4a charger, which is disappointing.
I received my phone yesterday and found this to be very annoying. I have a few questions:
-Is the USB-C on this phone 3.0 or 3.1 spec or just 2.0? I just assumed all these new phones had 3.0+ speed
-According to google store, the cable that comes with this phone is 2.0 spec ($20 effin dollars?). Is there a 3.0 spec cable that will work?
-Are there any third party cables out there that will fast charge and have 3.0+ spec? (of course 3.0 is pointless if the phone itself maxes out at 2.0)
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I received my phone yesterday and found this to be very annoying. I have a few questions:
-Is the USB-C on this phone 3.0 or 3.1 spec or just 2.0? I just assumed all these new phones had 3.0+ speed
-According to google store, the cable that comes with this phone is 2.0 spec ($20 effin dollars?). Is there a 3.0 spec cable that will work?
-Are there any third party cables out there that will fast charge and have 3.0+ spec? (of course 3.0 is pointless if the phone itself maxes out at 2.0)
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I picked up this one, it has not come in but it is USB-IF certified, so there should be no issues.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07213D35X/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have two Xps laptops, and we have now two pixel 2's at the house all USB C.
Most chargers are 1 USB c port with multiple regular USB ports, and the Aukey that has two USB c ports failed spec.
Anyone know of any wall charger with multiple USB C ports?
This one has 2 C and 4 A ports. It gets good reviews.
Didn't see any others with more than the 2.
https://www.amazon.com/60W-Port-USB...1510687883&sr=8-308&keywords=usb+c+headphones
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This one has 2 C and 4 A ports. It gets good reviews.
Didn't see any others with more than the 2.
https://www.amazon.com/60W-Port-USB...1510687883&sr=8-308&keywords=usb+c+headphones
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So that link is for an item with two different skus, which are actually 2 different charges with most of the reviews for the OG fast charge w/o the USB C.
Here is a youtube review of the one with USB C.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_K2kc5fHTk
It basically fails to fast charge the phone in the regular usb port.
That being said what i am most afraid of is the USB C port always being on. Which is a problem, because with phones such as the pixel that now use the USB C port as a headphone jack, if the USB C port is always on, on the charger, and the pixel thinks it's a headphone connection port it can cause the phone to get damaged.
Being that the charger failed basic charging specs it claims, i doubt the charger is USB c spec. Thank you for the suggestion doh
I suggest avoiding this product doh
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So that link is for an item with two different skus, which are actually 2 different charges with most of the reviews for the OG fast charge w/o the USB C.
Here is a youtube review of the one with USB C.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_K2kc5fHTk
It basically fails to fast charge the phone in the regular usb port.
That being said what i am most afraid of is the USB C port always being on. Which is a problem, because with phones such as the pixel that now use the USB C port as a headphone jack, if the USB C port is always on, on the charger, and the pixel thinks it's a headphone connection port it can cause the phone to get damaged.
Being that the charger failed basic charging specs it claims, i doubt the charger is USB c spec. Thank you for the suggestion doh
I suggest avoiding this product doh
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That's unfortunate. Ah the growing pains of being early adopters of USB-C. Still reminds me of the early days of HDMI. Lot of misinformation and improperly speced items. eventually it all smooths out.
Id really like to fine a nice usb-a to usb-c adapter as my MacBook only has usb-a ports and my pixel cable like everyone's is c to c.
Alternatively I'd like to also get a nice ubs-c to usb-a cable.
Lastly just for reference let's hear who has good usb-c to usb-c cables.
Not looking for cheap cables either, let's comprise a listing of only high quality products. Seems a waste to buy a near $1000 dollar phone only to plug it into a crap cable and accidentally fry it. I have no problem spending a little extra coin to ensure a quality product. I'm sure others can relate as well.
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Cable USB Anker PowerLine + USB-C a USB 3.0 (0, 9m)
Amazing quality like always from Anker
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M3NB6FB/ref=twister_B07B68KX45?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
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Cable USB Anker PowerLine + USB-C a USB 3.0 (0, 9m)
Amazing quality like always from Anker
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M3NB6FB/ref=twister_B07B68KX45?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
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These are the only cables I will buy. Contacted Anker when I had an issue with one and they sent me a replacement no questions asked. Top notch product and customer service
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These are the only cables I will buy. Contacted Anker when I had an issue with one and they sent me a replacement no questions asked. Top notch product and customer service
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I too only buy Anker cables. They are very high quality. I've had the same cable that was linked but in 6' for over a year now and it works great. Some of the best cables, chargers and accessories I've ever bought. I also have an Anker BT speaker that works very well.
I have a few of their latest version. No problems yet.
https://www.anker.com/products/variant/powerline-ii-usb-c-to-usb-a-2-0-cable/A8462011
Wanted to bring this topic back to life.. What about USB-C to USB-C 3.1? I can't find anything longer than 3 feet... at least by a reputable company like Anker.. Any input? My motherboard has USB-C 3.1 onboard and the 3' cable is just too short.. I can get one from Google.. $30
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Wanted to bring this topic back to life.. What about USB-C to USB-C 3.1? I can't find anything longer than 3 feet... at least by a reputable company like Anker.. Any input? My motherboard has USB-C 3.1 onboard and the 3' cable is just too short.. I can get one from Google.. $30
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When in doubt, start with Monoprice and compare from there. That said, buying USB-C stuff is super confusing these days with USB 2.0, USB 3.0, USB 3.1 Gen1, USB 3.1 Gen2, and now this USB 3.2 stuff coming out (that rebrands USB 3.0 and 3.1 stuff to 3.2). All that said, see if maybe this is what you're looking for? The moment you start going to 3.1 instead of 2.0 or 3.0, you start getting some expensive and thick cables.
Speaking of Monoprice, I'm a big fan of this charger - 45W for $17 right now. I own 3.
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When in doubt, start with Monoprice and compare from there. That said, buying USB-C stuff is super confusing these days with USB 2.0, USB 3.0, USB 3.1 Gen1, USB 3.1 Gen2, and now this USB 3.2 stuff coming out (that rebrands USB 3.0 and 3.1 stuff to 3.2). All that said, see if maybe this is what you're looking for? The moment you start going to 3.1 instead of 2.0 or 3.0, you start getting some expensive and thick cables.
Speaking of Monoprice, I'm a big fan of this charger - 45W for $17 right now. I own 3.
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Looks like that will do the trick! I just need one long enough to use with my computer. I prefer using the USB C port on my desktop ... I know regular USB-C to USB works fine.. Just my preference. Thanks! I always forget about Monoprice and their wonderful cable selections!
I can use none google usb cable to charge pixel6pro but I cannot charge oneplus8pro by google usb cable.
Is there any secret on google usb cable ? Will it is clue to brick pixel6pro if using none google usb cable ?
You can use any quality cable. The only other brand other than an OEM cable that I trust is Anker, although I've gotten lucky with some (now discontinued) random name brands.
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I can use none google usb cable to charge pixel6pro but I cannot charge oneplus8pro by google usb cable.
Is there any secret on google usb cable ? Will it is clue to brick pixel6pro if using none google usb cable ?
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It is the OnePlus cable isn't a standard USB cable it is a propitiatory standard, that said any good quality cable should still charge the OnePlus phone but only at 15W (if memory serves).
Anker all the way for me as well, i cannot remember the last time i used the cable that came with a phone.
As mentioned by @MrBelter it's the OnePlus cable that's the issue.
I've had this cable for about 4 years (see link), and used it on the Pixel 2 XL, Pixel 4 XL, and Samsung Galaxy S21 with no issues...still using the same came on my P6P.
Link: USB C to USB C 60W Cable, JSAUX[2-Pack 6.6ft] USB Type C Charger Fast Charging Cord Compatible with Samsung S21/S20/S10/A52, MacBook Air/Pro 13'', iPad Mini 6/iPad Pro2020/Air 4, Pixel 6, Switch-Grey https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MDYXC1...abc_CJYMVDFH8YXV40DQ6RZ5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
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I can use none google usb cable to charge pixel6pro but I cannot charge oneplus8pro by google usb cable.
Is there any secret on google usb cable ? Will it is clue to brick pixel6pro if using none google usb cable ?
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OnePlus either uses firmware within the USB connector, or a specific resistance value to determine if the cable is an OP cable and it's likely they do so to limit legal liability from users who unintentionally try to push 3A - 5A through a cable not designed to handle current that high.
Folks have unintentionally used shoddy USB cables to charge a smartphone that resulted in the death of the user.
When folks speak about a "quality" cable, it's referring to the wire gauge of the cable, as it's the gauge of the wire that dictates how much current can safely pass through the wire without causing it to overheat from the high resistance caused by pushing more current through the cable than the cable is designed to carry.
A quality manufacturer will list the gauge of the wires within a USB cable and if a listing doesn't have the wire gauge listed, my rule of thumb is it can handle no more than 10W (5V @ 2A). MonoPrice is a well known manufacturer of quality cables and they lifetime guarantee all their cables with a no-hassle lifetime warranty.