Just got a bit tired of little bugs in the CM13 based roms and thinking about switching back to CM11. The only concern is the lack of security updates after the maintainers abandoned the projects for newer android versions.
Did anyone here try downgrading? Or maybe never upgraded? Is it wise to do so?
Some of my issues with CM13 based roms which have put me off:
Insane lag when reciving calls
Adopting Storage doesn't work half the time
Front Camera crashes
Mobile Data issues
Lock Screen Wallpaper Issue
Music suspend bug
Battery drain Issue
LOL brother. I am still using CM 11 build 14/11/15 with Xcelerate kernel build 4/12/15.
I still used this OS as it gives me atleast 500+mb ram which I require a lot for gaming.
At battery 100%............(with airplane mode on)...wifi on After 3hrs of continuous wifi gaming my battery drops to around 20%.
So I guess battery life is good.......though i haven't activated any sim cards(that would be a different story)
I don't have any voice(call) related problem though. Only bug is HDR. Once a picture is clicked with HDR on, you have to exit camera to click again in HDR mode
I actually need a CM 13 rom which provide such performance.(I was thinking about Slim rom 0.4 by Aniket Lamba)
So if anyone can suggest me better rom then please let me know. For me stability & usability matters more than recent builds.
I always will appreciate any information whether good or bad
I used to like KK as it was last in the line of the Holo interface and it was the only 4.x available for our phone, so I used it for fairly long and didn't switch to LP until MM came around. Along with Xcelerate it was really good: decent battery life, smooth experience and fast charging. But now that I've grown to like the Material interface as well, I've been using MM more often these few months, especially Slim6, which I feel gives the same feel I used to get on KK: stability and smoothness.
KK is still one of my more favourite ROMs, but given that KK is mostly dead by now and there are more developments and features in LP and MM, I think I'll just stick to Slim6.
amangupta53 said:
Some of my issues with CM13 based roms which have put me off:
Insane lag when reciving calls
Adopting Storage doesn't work half the time
Front Camera crashes
Mobile Data issues
Lock Screen Wallpaper Issue
Music suspend bug
Battery drain Issue
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1) I don't get this
2) I don't use Adoptive Storage, heard it screws with WiFi
3) I don't get this (it has been fixed recently)
4) Depends on ROM
5) GravityBox (for AOSP MM), or this guide (which also works on CM13)
6) Disable MPDecision. Strangely when I downgraded to CM11 I was still getting the bug.
7) Depends on ROM
The issues I had with CM11 were generally the use of Apollo and the HDR issue as stated in the post before mine. And the music bug after downgrading. Apart from those I was happy with it, and I wouldn't mind a single bit to change back to it. I just don't understand the hate regarding KK, especially in the MIUI 8 thread...
NightRaven49 said:
I used to like KK as it was last in the line of the Holo interface and it was the only 4.x available for our phone, so I used it for fairly long and didn't switch to LP until MM came around. Along with Xcelerate it was really good: decent battery life, smooth experience and fast charging. But now that I've grown to like the Material interface as well, I've been using MM more often these few months, especially Slim6, which I feel gives the same feel I used to get on KK: stability and smoothness.
KK is still one of my more favourite ROMs, but given that KK is mostly dead by now and there are more developments and features in LP and MM, I think I'll just stick to Slim6.
1) I don't get this
2) I don't use Adoptive Storage, heard it screws with WiFi
3) I don't get this (it has been fixed recently)
4) Depends on ROM
5) GravityBox (for AOSP MM), or this guide (which also works on CM13)
6) Disable MPDecision. Strangely when I downgraded to CM11 I was still getting the bug.
7) Depends on ROM
The issues I had with CM11 were generally the use of Apollo and the HDR issue as stated in the post before mine. And the music bug after downgrading. Apart from those I was happy with it, and I wouldn't mind a single bit to change back to it. I just don't understand the hate regarding KK, especially in the MIUI 8 thread...
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Hate towards KK is only because most of the apps are working great in >LP than in KK. If MIUI with LP is given then it can be easily a great choice for armani. MIUI ram issues have sorted out but only thing is standby time(wifi on) is low.
NightRaven49 said:
I used to like KK as it was last in the line of the Holo interface and it was the only 4.x available for our phone, so I used it for fairly long and didn't switch to LP until MM came around. Along with Xcelerate it was really good: decent battery life, smooth experience and fast charging. But now that I've grown to like the Material interface as well, I've been using MM more often these few months, especially Slim6, which I feel gives the same feel I used to get on KK: stability and smoothness.
KK is still one of my more favourite ROMs, but given that KK is mostly dead by now and there are more developments and features in LP and MM, I think I'll just stick to Slim6.
1) I don't get this
2) I don't use Adoptive Storage, heard it screws with WiFi
3) I don't get this (it has been fixed recently)
4) Depends on ROM
5) GravityBox (for AOSP MM), or this guide (which also works on CM13)
6) Disable MPDecision. Strangely when I downgraded to CM11 I was still getting the bug.
7) Depends on ROM
The issues I had with CM11 were generally the use of Apollo and the HDR issue as stated in the post before mine. And the music bug after downgrading. Apart from those I was happy with it, and I wouldn't mind a single bit to change back to it. I just don't understand the hate regarding KK, especially in the MIUI 8 thread...
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The music bug persisting after the downgrade is what's keeping me back. I, too, don't use Adoptive storage for all the bugs it brings - even on AOSP. But this means I'm running out of space by the end of the month because of necessary evils like WhatsCrap.
The gravitybox mod is good to know, although I don't use xposed, but really is simply a hassle to effectively change your wallpaper - especially when I'm changing them every other week.
I've recently tried disabling MPDecision - the music seems to be playing fine but I can't help but notice sightly degraded performance all around.
slst said:
Hate towards KK is only because most of the apps are working great in >LP than in KK.
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Funny when there was a time when apps couldn't run properly on ART...
amangupta53 said:
I, too, don't use Adoptive storage for all the bugs it brings - even on AOSP. But this means I'm running out of space by the end of the month because of necessary evils like WhatsCrap.
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Adoptive Storage is a hassle to set up: you need to format your SD card (which meant I had to shift everything out before converting it), and TWRP has no way to read such encrypted storage, so I didn't use it after the first time I tried it. Also you could do with regular housekeeping of your phone's storage; usually I keep WhatsApp images for a year before deleting them (after keeping the important ones and archiving the rest).
amangupta53 said:
The gravitybox mod is good to know, although I don't use xposed, but really is simply a hassle to effectively change your wallpaper - especially when I'm changing them every other week.
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Xposed is very helpful, but if you don't want to use it then I won't force you.
Generally in those CM12/13 ROMs if I wanted to switch between lockscreen wallpapers I would leave a couple of those wallpapers in the /data/system/users/0 folder, just renamed to let me know which file is which wallpaper. Whenever I wanted to change them I just renamed them to the proper filename.
amangupta53 said:
I've recently tried disabling MPDecision - the music seems to be playing fine but I can't help but notice sightly degraded performance all around.
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You don't have to leave MPDecision off the whole time: just disable it when listening to music, and re-enable it afterward.
Thank you everyone for your valuable comments:good:. It seems I can finally move on to CM 13:fingers-crossed:.(mostly slim6 version)
Note: I don't have music stop bug in CM11 though( may be related to firmware version or kernel. don't know why different people have different bugs:silly
Dr. Joy Das said:
Thank you everyone for your valuable comments:good:. It seems I can finally move on to CM 13:fingers-crossed:.(mostly slim6 version)
Note: I don't have music stop bug in CM11 though( may be related to firmware version or kernel. don't know why different people have different bugs:silly
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What I think is that the KK firmware/modem we all flashed for CM13 builds has something to do with the music suspend bug. This is probably the reason why downgrading back to CM11/12.1 doesn't seem to fix this issue.
Anyway, seems like I'll just stick with CM13 for now.
NightRaven49 said:
Funny when there was a time when apps couldn't run properly on ART...
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Sorry my friend i think its past now.
amangupta53 said:
What I think is that the KK firmware/modem we all flashed for CM13 builds has something to do with the music suspend bug.
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Well not really, as the same v7.0.5.0 is used for CM11, 12 and early 13 builds. It's most likely a kernel issue, given that disabling MPDecision fixes it somewhat.
slst said:
Sorry my friend i think its past now.
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I totally didn't know that, like totally dude
/sarcasm
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At the moment there is no stable and reliable Android 4.4 ROM yet, but I hope this will soon change.
Perhaps we can compare the different ROMs here. Please note that I am not asking for best performance or lowest RAM requirement. These are secondary issues. The most critical issue is reliability.
The Google ROMs have always been the most stable and reliable. They were never perfect, but at least we could expect them to run for a week or longer without any significant error and without rebooting. In my experience, other ROMs, like the admirable CyanogenMod, came close, but never quite reached that same level of reliability. Given that the CyanogenMod crew works for free and in their free time, the quality they delivered has been astounding and admirable.
Nonetheless, reliability remains the biggest issue among the third-party ROMs.
So, if you install any of the Android 4.4 ROMs on your Galaxy Nexus, please report what you find. Please try to judge whether that ROM can be recommended for general use or whether the newbies had better stand back and wait for the next version.
Another question is: How user-friendly is the install procedure? Can you keep your apps and app data?
It is very unfortunate that the gnex community is not supported anymore due to 'hardware issues' or the 18 month timeframe. It is true that the ROMs made these days are not so 'reliable' and they may be buggy and cause force closes on certain applications. The new roms may never support cleanly and as stable as stock factory images by Google but its all the Gnex community can rely on from now. Personally, I feel the slimkat 4.4 ROM is acceptable considering it is only about less than a week old. They have been fixing bugs such as GPS tracking and such. I will be using it as my daily driver from now and just hope that the developers can make it as stable as the stock android ROM.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
a taste of kitkat perfect aosp leaked rom
i''ve installed yesterday a taste of kitkat with mpokang 1080p kernel.. some glitches when rotate screen but only one reboot using google now (i don't use gnow so it's not a problem for me) and i've a crash only on fifa14... battery good performance, no lags, no problems, trickstermod overclock to 1.4ghz no problems, facebook, whatsapp, viber, tango, hangout, 3G, Wifi, Bluetooth, GPS alla working without problems.. and now i'm testing battery..
Toro Plus
For us sprint (or Ting) users the 4.4 ROMs are not even installable. There have been two threads started and each one was locked after it became apparent that the developers did not have booting builds. I appreciate all the work devs do, but this keeps getting my hopes up. Hopefully, someone will get one working soon and we won't have any more false starts.
They are just alpha builds, experimental builds. Most of them have some glitches. They are not for daily use.
If you do not have necessary knowledge and do not have time to report bug, then I suggest you should back out on those alpha builds.
They're not even a week old. Give time and reap miracles afterwards
Sent from Samsung Galaxy Nexus @ CM10.2
It's a Nexus device. Things will improve over time.
I've been running the most recent SlimKat alpha build and it's been pretty solid. Phone feels rejuvenated. It is my work phone and worked flawlessly all day. The only restarts were Hangouts last night and when I was fiddling around with wallpaper settings after work, and forgivable graphics glitch during screen rotation. Otherwise, it has has felt like a new-ish phone today.
Thanks for the good information!
I think, when the builds go from alpha to beta and there are no obvious glitches any more, then would be the time to do some more thorough testing, particularly:
GPS, including track recording with My Tracks, Locus, or a similar app
Cameras with all their functions
Compass, gravity, and other sensors
Tethering via USB, Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth
Radio functions, particularly LTE and the general behavior with a weak or frequently interrupted signal
OTG with USB mass storage device, keyboard, etc.
I would recommend to report all defects not only here, but also to the maker of the ROM.
For now, they are pretty unstable, but I would keep an eye out for linaro's builds as well:
http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/11/06/android-4-4-kitkat-on-galaxy-nexus-rom-linaro-and-petition/
idk what you're talking about OP. i've run these custom roms more tha n week and they've been good. only reason the counter will reset is because I flash a new rom or flash an update or a mod.
These ROMs are very stable.
4.4 ROMs. give it some time. it's amazing that in less than 24 hours after the release of 4.4, we got a semi daily usable ROM from people that don't even work for Google.
I've been on SlimKat for a couple hours now. Clearly a ton of the SlimRom features are missing but considering that its an Alpha its not that bad.
Other than some graphical glitches here and there, which are very rare actually, there arent any other instabilities that I can see. Everything works fine. I dont know who is starting this rumor about 4.4 being unstable. Some ROMs may work better than others but thats due to different developers working at different paces. Bottom line is, 4.4 is perfectly fine for a daily driver. It just needs some ironing out.
Yeah, I'm running the SlimKat ROM, and its beautiful
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running the Forbidden Update using xda app-developers app
Running Shiny 4.4. Good taste of KitKat. Sounds crazy, but I'm using it to test stuff out before it goes on the N5.
Biggest glitch seems to be with graphics, in that overlays of menus and random black boxes over some text in gmail and Chrome, make things unreadable and useless. Not to mention the random reboots when you can tell something happened that the GNex doesn't like.
IMO, they are not ready for use on a primary device. As in, at the end of the day, when I'm home, I pop my simcard out of my MotoX and out it in my GNex/3.4 to tinker. No maps to crash at the wrong time, I have other devices at the low-ready to surf on and more time to tinker. My gf loves me for this routine I've made for myself
Definitely a good taste of KitKat. Considering today would mark 1 week since release, on an unsupported device - its actually pretty stable.
LCD Density
I'm on SlimKat and my old eyes can't deal w/ the tiny text - even when changing default system font to HUGE in the display settings. build.prop has a value of 240 but I can't edit in ES Explorer even though the file props say it's writable. Tried an app but it loops and doesn't make any changes. Any ideas?
xMoment said:
I'm on SlimKat and my old eyes can't deal w/ the tiny text - even when changing default system font to HUGE in the display settings. build.prop has a value of 240 but I can't edit in ES Explorer even though the file props say it's writable. Tried an app but it loops and doesn't make any changes. Any ideas?
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use rom toolbox, it worked for me
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xMoment said:
I'm on SlimKat and my old eyes can't deal w/ the tiny text - even when changing default system font to HUGE in the display settings. build.prop has a value of 240 but I can't edit in ES Explorer even though the file props say it's writable. Tried an app but it loops and doesn't make any changes. Any ideas?
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1.Root first using chainfire SuperSU v1.65
2.Install RE(Root Explorer)
3.Hit Mount R/W
4.Open build.prop and change density to 320.:highfive:
Thanks - I was rooted already and made sure root explorer was on. Tried to change permissions in terminal, didn't work. Booted into recovery and mounted system, rebooted and hung at the google logo...so flashed FML and the DPI is 320 so I'm fixed
joytsay said:
1.Root first using chainfire SuperSU v1.65
2.Install RE(Root Explorer)
3.Hit Mount R/W
4.Open build.prop and change density to 320.:highfive:
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hi all.
tried a few aosp roms. all great. just some annoying random reboots. im not a heavy customizer. i just like the feel of vanilla android. and also i like smaller dpi settings. currently running ptmr3's jedi rom. excellent rom, havent experienced any reboots. though its a nice rom, i like aosp roms. any out there without random reboots?
also with the kitkat update our note3 is getting, will future roms be more random reboots less or none at all? im suppose to meet someone this coming wednesday to trade my note3 for his nexus5. or should i wait til new roms are cooked up based on the kitkat update for better aosp roms?
also trying to figure out how to remove this damn widget on lockscreen. cant seem to get rid of it.
thanks all
simpl3lang said:
hi all.
tried a few aosp roms. all great. just some annoying random reboots. im not a heavy customizer. i just like the feel of vanilla android. and also i like smaller dpi settings. currently running ptmr3's jedi rom. excellent rom, havent experienced any reboots. though its a nice rom, i like aosp roms. any out there without random reboots?
also with the kitkat update our note3 is getting, will future roms be more random reboots less or none at all? im suppose to meet someone this coming wednesday to trade my note3 for his nexus5. or should i wait til new roms are cooked up based on the kitkat update for better aosp roms?
also trying to figure out how to remove this damn widget on lockscreen. cant seem to get rid of it.
thanks all
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I've been on the unified Note3 CM11 builds and have been enjoying them quite a bit. The only reboots (and lockups) I got were from tweaking my CPU settings...apparently the only parameter that was pissing my phone off was the conservative governor. Also clk_min won't stay at the floor...but aside from slightly compromised battery life CM11 has been near perfect. I'll take the very slight battery life reduction for AOSP...also, the ART runtime is wayyyyyy better than Dalvik. Worth it for that alone. I just enabled that "for good" today but I already expect enough battery life savings to make up the difference (which was admittedly small).
Performance is top notch (even when underclocked to 960mHz), the ART runtime seems to make scrolling, chrome, maps and all around navigation snappy as hell...and I don't have to deal with TWiz. To each their own, touchwiz ain't for me. All the important stuff appears to work (LTE, WiFi, Bluetooth, camera, 1080p video recording...I can't even remember the things I used to worry about...everything works fine, even the 'settings bug' is resolved now...)
YMMV, of course.
daneurysm said:
I've been on the unified Note3 CM11 builds and have been enjoying them quite a bit. The only reboots (and lockups) I got were from tweaking my CPU settings...apparently the only parameter that was pissing my phone off was the conservative governor. Also clk_min won't stay at the floor...but aside from slightly compromised battery life CM11 has been near perfect. I'll take the very slight battery life reduction for AOSP...also, the ART runtime is wayyyyyy better than Dalvik. Worth it for that alone. I just enabled that "for good" today but I already expect enough battery life savings to make up the difference (which was admittedly small).
Performance is top notch (even when underclocked to 960mHz), the ART runtime seems to make scrolling, chrome, maps and all around navigation snappy as hell...and I don't have to deal with TWiz. To each their own, touchwiz ain't for me. All the important stuff appears to work (LTE, WiFi, Bluetooth, camera, 1080p video recording...I can't even remember the things I used to worry about...everything works fine, even the 'settings bug' is resolved now...)
YMMV, of course.
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Thanks. I will try it out after i play around with gummy. Yah im not a fan of touchwiz either. How do i enable ART? i have never tinkered with that. Also regarding cpu tweaking. I dont really bother with that and i still get reboots and lock ups. Most times i just leave the kernel that came with the rom alone and not change it.
im a flashoholic. & i truley hate touchwiz roms. but ive been a week on AOSB v1.30 (longest ive ever stayed on one rom lol) its smooth & zippy, it has some amazing battery life. also vanir isnt a bad rom.
also switching runtimes is available in developer options under "apps"
r333xxh4v0k said:
im a flashoholic. & i truley hate touchwiz roms. but ive been a week on AOSB v1.30 (longest ive ever stayed on one rom lol) its smooth & zippy, it has some amazing battery life. also vanir isnt a bad rom.
also switching runtimes is available in developer options under "apps"
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thanks. i only had my tmo note3 for about two weeks now. the AOSB v1.30 is not on the TMOBILE NOTE 3 development threads (i did find it). are we allowed to use those roms for our tmo note3? is there anything special i need to do to install roms from there?
simpl3lang said:
thanks. i only had my tmo note3 for about two weeks now. the AOSB v1.30 is not on the TMOBILE NOTE 3 development threads (i did find it). are we allowed to use those roms for our tmo note3? is there anything special i need to do to install roms from there?
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The AOSB rom is a universal. Just flash rom + gApps & you're set to go!
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WOW. i think i just found me a stable rom to use. installed and been running this rom for more than an hour now with all my usual tweaks and apps installed. and so far no reboots. usually on other aosp rom, i would have had a few reboots already. this is awesooooome. well besides the fact that app settings (xposed) doesnt seem to work since temasek integrated his own lcd density changer on the settings menu. also he just announced yesterday that he is putting his development on hold (temporarily, hopefully). damn!
temasek's UNOFFICIAL CM11 BUILD
so far loving it. will update if any issues occur
peace
simpl3lang said:
WOW. i think i just found me a stable rom to use. installed and been running this rom for more than an hour now with all my usual tweaks and apps installed. and so far no reboots. usually on other aosp rom, i would have had a few reboots already. this is awesooooome. well besides the fact that app settings (xposed) doesnt seem to work since temasek integrated his own lcd density changer on the settings menu. also he just announced yesterday that he is putting his development on hold (temporarily, hopefully). damn!
temasek's UNOFFICIAL CM11 BUILD
so far loving it. will update if any issues occur
peace
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temesek is very nice work, glad to hear you found a rom!
...when it should be something like Hype, Compare, Choose.
I'm just posting this because it's crazy how we become kind of addicts to the cutting edge versions of Android, no matter how it really works on our device, it is just awesome because it works, on our beloved 3 years old nexus.
I'm the kind of guy who really search for smoothness, all around the system. I just can't stand a frame drop. It's kind of creepy. No, seriously, I look for details, and there's some things in KitKat I don't like. But all that said, and as I once read, if your eyes see at 15 fps it's not my fault lol. So, here they are:
- Notifications panel / Quick settings animation. Yes, guess what, the frame drop here is aweful. It stutters like hell. Just do it, expand the status bar and hit the tile many times, that's not smooth at all.
- RAM usage. They can say KK is optimized and bla bla, but real thing is that there's less free RAM than JB. It's a fact. You can go all the way of how Android manage memory and stuff, well, I rather more free RAM.
- Home button responsiveness. It just lags. Test it, open an app, something heavy e.g. Facebook app, and press home button. Now do the same but use back button. Give it a few tries if you didn't notice the difference at the first time.
- High battery drain.
There are some other things but you get the point. I felt less responsiveness in general, when multitasking, etc. So I decided to go back to Android 4.3.1 JB, CM 10.2.1 in my particular case. Oh yes, this feels awesome. Notifications panel / Quick settings animation is fully smooth, I've more free ram, Home button reaction is fast again, multitasking is great. I also realized that I missed the Vanilla ui. This is definitely where I'm staying.
So my conclusion is, you can follow the hype but don't stay just with the new things, make your own judgement, compare and choose what's your most suitable rom/android version out there
NOTES:
- I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos looking for this issues I've mentioned, so I discard problems with my Maguro in particular.
- I'm comparing both Android versions with the same apps (around 140 total apps), so there's no factory reset placebo effect.
- They're all present on different roms i.e CM, PA, and some others, so its KK related I guess.
- A particular thing about CM 10.2.1 is that it cames with a modified phase beam live wallpaper that slows down the launcher/system, don't get wrong this first bad impression , try another live wallpaper and you'll see how smooth is it. It runs great, using live or static wallpapers. What I did was delete the phasebeam.apk and push the stock 4.3 phasebeam.apk, that works good :good:.
- Hey! There's some good KK themes for old Theme Chooser if you want the KK look.
Anyway, here's another reason to not to ask what's the best rom for my GN.
This is just my personal opinion.
Hope you've enjoyed the post, and go try yourself!
Kustaa said:
...when it should be something like Hype, Compare, Choose.
I'm just posting this because it's crazy how we become kind of addicts to the cutting edge versions of Android, no matter how it really works on our device, it is just awesome because it works, on our beloved 3 years old nexus.
I'm the kind of guy who really search for smoothness, all around the system. I just can't stand a frame drop. It's kind of creepy. No, seriously, I look for details, and there's some things in KitKat I don't like. But all that said, and as I once read, if your eyes see at 15 fps it's not my fault lol. So, here they are:
- Notifications panel / Quick settings animation. Yes, guess what, the frame drop here is aweful. It stutters like hell. Just do it, expand the status bar and hit the tile many times, that's not smooth at all.
- RAM usage. They can say KK is optimized and bla bla, but real thing is that there's less free RAM than JB. It's a fact. You can go all the way of how Android manage memory and stuff, well, I rather more free RAM.
- Home button responsiveness. It just lags. Test it, open an app, something heavy e.g. Facebook app, and press home button. Now do the same but use back button. Give it a few tries if you didn't notice the difference at the first time.
- High battery drain.
There are some other things but you get the point. I felt less responsiveness in general, when multitasking, etc. So I decided to go back to Android 4.3.1 JB, CM 10.2.1 in my particular case. Oh yes, this feels awesome. Notifications panel / Quick settings animation is fully smooth, I've more free ram, Home button reaction is fast again, multitasking is great. I also realized that I missed the Vanilla ui. This is definitely where I'm staying.
So my conclusion is, you can follow the hype but don't stay just with the new things, make your own judgement, compare and choose what's your most suitable rom/android version out there
NOTES:
- I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos looking for this issues I've mentioned, so I discard problems with my Maguro in particular.
- I'm comparing both Android versions with the same apps (around 140 total apps), so there's no factory reset placebo effect.
- They're all present on different roms i.e CM, PA, and some others, so its KK related I guess.
- A particular thing about CM 10.2.1 is that it cames with a modified phase beam live wallpaper that slows down the launcher/system, don't get wrong this first bad impression , try another live wallpaper and you'll see how smooth is it. It runs great, using live or static wallpapers. What I did was delete the phasebeam.apk and push the stock 4.3 phasebeam.apk, that works good :good:.
- Hey! There's some good KK themes for old Theme Chooser if you want the KK look.
Anyway, here's another reason to not to ask what's the best rom for my GN.
This is just my personal opinion.
Hope you've enjoyed the post, and go try yourself!
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I agree with the problems you mentioned and i do want speed, stability and smoothness.
I noticed those things when i first upgraded to KK.
To overcome those challenges, i tried all the roms (CM Remix, Cm11, PA, Omni, Omni FML, geyers, AOKP, etc..) with stock kernels and then with DIRTY V and Fancy.
More ram is available with dirty v, fancy and stock PA kernel.
Afterall, i choose my personal set up which is smooth and stable for my device. i am satisfied with it now.
With Android you always have a choice of tweaking, upgrading or downgrading from JB > KK. so choose whats best for you :good:
Even I've been thinking of try CM 10 for a while but I just can't leave KitKat. For me, latest Android version is important but this lag makes me feel bad. So I try to manage the performance using better kernel and not using apps like Facebook but it isn't enough. There is still lag in some or the other screen.
I bought Galaxy Nexus in last 9 months only so I couldn't use Android 4.3 roms much and thus I don't have much info about them. What do you think, should I give it a try? Also, which rom would you recommend?
Thanks.
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Even I've been thinking of try CM 10 for a while but I just can't leave KitKat. For me, latest Android version is important but this lag makes me feel bad. So I try to manage the performance using better kernel and not using apps like Facebook but it isn't enough. There is still lag in some or the other screen.
I bought Galaxy Nexus in last 9 months only so I couldn't use Android 4.3 roms much and thus I don't have much info about them. What do you think, should I give it a try? Also, which rom would you recommend?
Thanks.
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As I said, you'll have to try my friend
If you want my opinion, CM 10.2.1 Stable is awesome. Rock solid. You should make a nandroid backup of your current rom and go try some 4.3 stuff! In worst scenario you'll be restoring the nandroid and that's it!
hemantv said:
Even I've been thinking of try CM 10 for a while but I just can't leave KitKat. For me, latest Android version is important but this lag makes me feel bad. So I try to manage the performance using better kernel and not using apps like Facebook but it isn't enough. There is still lag in some or the other screen.
I bought Galaxy Nexus in last 9 months only so I couldn't use Android 4.3 roms much and thus I don't have much info about them. What do you think, should I give it a try? Also, which rom would you recommend?
Thanks.
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try the paranoid 3.99 based on 4.3
I remember it was really smooth
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As I said, you'll have to try my friend
If you want my opinion, CM 10.2.1 Stable is awesome. Rock solid. You should make a nandroid backup of your current rom and go try some 4.3 stuff! In worst scenario you'll be restoring the nandroid and that's it!
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I agree with you on everything you said. I think I even went back to CM 10.X (not sure the exact one), but it was much better than anything I had before. I am on PA 4.44 and my data loses connection often and not sure why. The version of CM though, I would put it on airplane mode and my battery would still be drained the next day when other versions I didn't have that issue. That's one reason I went to another ROM, but it appears I am just going through ROMS like crazy trying to find the one I like most. To me...battery life is the most important.
decisions.
when i stopped using google framework with all those apps you dont have to use...
i found my battery lasting much longer
setting my kernel to lazy...while turning up voltage and over hertz. gives it enough speed...with enough "crash"
to stay up for 3 to 4 days, just sitting there
and 1 to 2 while in normal use.
and using up my data....well no one is going to get much up time like that
Hi friends!
I've been around the forums the past few days and noticed several Android 5.0 lollipop roms for our device. I've tried out a few of them and have been very impressed with how good they are. So I'd like to ask you guys, what are your experiences with any of these Lollipop Roms? Is there any you prefer? What are any bugs you've come across? Is there any advice you'd like to give on flashing or using these roms?
I think this could be a great way to gather our thoughts and keep track of how development is going.
Thanks!
I am eagerly waiting to make one of these roms my daily. Flash every nightly of the cm12 and play around for about an hour but then nandroid back. Not that many issues but still seem buggy and things that i use daily like the IR blaster dont work. I find it amazing how fast the devs were able to get us 5.0 roms so quick! And almost fully functional to! Maybe you can list the roms? To my knowledge the only 5.0 roms iv seen are 2 cm12s and a 5.0 pac.
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I am eagerly waiting to make one of these roms my daily. Flash every nightly of the cm12 and play around for about an hour but then nandroid back. Not that many issues but still seem buggy and things that i use daily like the IR blaster dont work. I find it amazing how fast the devs were able to get us 5.0 roms so quick! And almost fully functional to! Maybe you can list the roms? To my knowledge the only 5.0 roms iv seen are 2 cm12s and a 5.0 pac.
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I think all 3 builds are based on CM12. The 3 lollipop Roms I know of are:
Unofficial-cm12.0-ANDROID 5.0-beta by $droyd$
[Unofficial] PAC-ROM 4.4.4.RC-3 & 5.0 Alpha by Asianflavor
CyanogenMod 12.0 by Phantomphreak53
If anyone finds other 5.0 Roms please let us know here!
Thanks!
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I think all 3 builds are based on CM12. The 3 lollipop Roms I know of are:
Unofficial-cm12.0-ANDROID 5.0-beta by $droyd$
[Unofficial] PAC-ROM 4.4.4.RC-3 & 5.0 Alpha by Asianflavor
CyanogenMod 12.0 by Phantomphreak53
If anyone finds other 5.0 Roms please let us know here!
Thanks!
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So far I've found Phantomphreak53's CM rom to be the most stable. Only thing not working is video recording which is a common issue amongst all of the lollipop roms. All in all these builds hold up extremely well for Alphas.
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Hi friends!
I've been around the forums the past few days and noticed several Android 5.0 lollipop roms for our device. I've tried out a few of them and have been very impressed with how good they are. So I'd like to ask you guys, what are your experiences with any of these Lollipop Roms? Is there any you prefer? What are any bugs you've come across? Is there any advice you'd like to give on flashing or using these roms?
I think this could be a great way to gather our thoughts and keep track of how development is going.
Thanks!
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I am currently using the CM-12-Unofficial by PhantomPhreak53 and here are my thoughts so far:
I clean flashed the 11/21 build after formatting data (I know this is not required or necessary) and a wipe. With a clean slate, it worked very well with the exception of NFC, double tap to wake, video recording and the resolution was off. Double tap to wake was fixed by editing a file, resolution was fixed with build prop, and I didn't need NFC or video so it was fine.
I dirty flashed the 11/23 build and NFC has been fixed. The video recording still doesn't work and the error "can't connect to camera" pops up after you try. The 11/23 build also fixed double tap to wake, added privacy settings, and fixed the resolution. Some people have noticed battery drain, but I get just about the same I got with stock. I will get about 3-4 hours of SoT with roughly 12-15 hours off the charger. This is all LTE on T-Mobile. Overall, I think 11/23 is good enough for a daily and I am currently using these "nightlies" as my dailies. There are some reports of crashing, but I haven't had any so far.
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I am currently using the CM-12-Unofficial by PhantomPhreak53 and here are my thoughts so far:
I clean flashed the 11/21 build after formatting data (I know this is not required or necessary) and a wipe. With a clean slate, it worked very well with the exception of NFC, double tap to wake, video recording and the resolution was off. Double tap to wake was fixed by editing a file, resolution was fixed with build prop, and I didn't need NFC or video so it was fine.
I dirty flashed the 11/23 build and NFC has been fixed. The video recording still doesn't work and the error "can't connect to camera" pops up after you try. The 11/23 build also fixed double tap to wake, added privacy settings, and fixed the resolution. Some people have noticed battery drain, but I get just about the same I got with stock. I will get about 3-4 hours of SoT with roughly 12-15 hours off the charger. This is all LTE on T-Mobile. Overall, I think 11/23 is good enough for a daily and I am currently using these "nightlies" as my dailies. There are some reports of crashing, but I haven't had any so far.
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I was running the Pac Rom build for a few days, but it seems the developer has switched to a nexus 6 and stopped further development. Pac Rom worked extremely well for me, the only issue I ran into was Documents force closing. I switched to the CM12 (11/24) by Phantomphreak53 today. Hopefully it holds up as well as Pac. Phantomphreak53 has been doing an excellent job with updates almost everyday. I'll check in again after spending some more time with this rom. Thanks for the input everybody!
I tried CM12 11/19 and 11/22, but ended up going back to a 4.4.4 rom because of battery life issues (namely NFC service using up my battery), video issues (opening a video in snapchat caused the phone to crash), and some other various instabilities. Is the video issue fixed in 11/24?
TonyTheBean said:
I tried CM12 11/19 and 11/22, but ended up going back to a 4.4.4 rom because of battery life issues (namely NFC service using up my battery), video issues (opening a video in snapchat caused the phone to crash), and some other various instabilities. Is the video issue fixed in 11/24?
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It looks like they are working on the video issue, or they changed something because now I don't get a force close but the video freezes and you have to reboot.
As for battery, I would try clean flashing a new ROM, maybe even the 11/25, because I have no misc or NFC battery issues. NFC did show up on the 11/23 rom, but it was very low and I got about the same battery life as I got from CM-11 and stock. Let's see if 11/25 fixes it for good.
EDIT: Scratch that. Taking a video still causes the camera apps to crash. Nothing has changed there.
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It looks like they are working on the video issue, or they changed something because now I don't get a force close but the video freezes and you have to reboot.
As for battery, I would try clean flashing a new ROM, maybe even the 11/25, because I have no misc or NFC battery issues. NFC did show up on the 11/23 rom, but it was very low and I got about the same battery life as I got from CM-11 and stock. Let's see if 11/25 fixes it for good.
EDIT: Scratch that. Taking a video still causes the camera apps to crash. Nothing has changed there.
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I'd much rather have the app crash than have to reboot. I guess i'll have to check out 11/25.
TonyTheBean said:
I'd much rather have the app crash than have to reboot. I guess i'll have to check out 11/25.
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I must have done something to cause the reboot. Every time I have tried since it just crashes. I haven't had any reboot issues at all on any of the roms, and I am currently on 11/25. I apologize if my post was confusing.
DrDexterMorgan said:
I must have done something to cause the reboot. Every time I have tried since it just crashes. I haven't had any reboot issues at all on any of the roms, and I am currently on 11/25. I apologize if my post was confusing.
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Things get a bit funky with these roms sometimes. The other day I lost all audio playback on my phone for absolutely no reason. I kept rebooting, but still no sound. I suggest you get everything working as best as you can and make a recovery from it. That way if things get wacky you can just restore and have everything back to how it was.
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Things get a bit funky with these roms sometimes. The other day I lost all audio playback on my phone for absolutely no reason. I kept rebooting, but still no sound. I suggest you get everything working as best as you can and make a recovery from it. That way if things get wacky you can just restore and have everything back to how it was.
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That's probably a good idea. I have seen some inconsistencies between devices as well. Some people have weird battery drain while others don't, some have problems with AUX and others don't etc. I wonder how much is the ROM, how much was how it was flashed and how much was related to different apps and settings. So far I have had a great experience though, so no complaints here.
I'm guessing none of these lollipop roms have wifi calling?
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I'm guessing none of these lollipop roms have wifi calling?
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Go read any single one of the lollipop threads and that question will be answered for you. Literally, any single one of them.
Every other post asks that same question. Gets frustrating even going through the threads anymore. Every other post mentions the video not working too. It even states in the CM12 OP by phantom that the video doesn't work. It always helps to read the entire thread before even flashing the ROM. That way when you flash it and stuff doesn't work you really have no one to blame but yourself. If you use the video camera a lot, just don't flash the ROM. That way when you try and use the video camera and it crashes, you won't go straight back to the thread and complain or mention it doesn't work. The moderators are gonna start going through and clearing all the repeat posts. They shouldn't have to if you just do your research people. That is all.
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Go read any single one of the lollipop threads and that question will be answered for you. Literally, any single one of them.
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No rom not based on t-mobile stock will have wifi calling, it is baked in low level. However, if you have a Google voice number and you integrate it with hangouts you can make a call over data with hangouts, if you're on wifi then boom, wifi calling. Can't be done with your carrier number though.
I've tried all three. Was hesitant to try PhantonPhreak53's build but I finally did and haven't left. Updates have been consistent and this rom has been my daily for about a week now. Not really worried about the video recording. I take Photos on Snapchat majority of the time anyway so I can wait patiently for the video recording fix. I'm just glad to have a stable 5.0 lollipop build.
Looks great
Anyone using these roms with QI charging? Does it still work?
Knocked off my LG-D851
Finally flashed a 5.0 rom and have discovered that QI charging still works, though it feels like it takes longer to charge.
Knocked off my LG-D851
Have a question... What's the main benefict of using a stock based ROM? It will have all stocks apps, and have functional 4k recording and all those problems aosp suffer, or it's just because it's based on the stock ROM?
Like for example what does Cloudy ROM can have, that another ROM that isn't stock based can't.
Thanks in advance,
Hope you understand my question
Hgneto said:
Have a question... What's the main benefit of using a stock based ROM? It will have all stocks apps, and have functional 4k recording and all those problems aosp suffer, or it's just because it's based on the stock ROM?
Like for example what does Cloudy ROM can have, that another ROM that isn't stock based can't.
Thanks in advance,
Hope you understand my question
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The "gimp" depends on which variant you have. Like the D855 has great aosp ROMs while others are getting issues here and there cause the 5.0 source hasn't been released for them yet.
So if you're one of those other variants, you can expect things like bad (or not as good) camera, sound issues (mainly music), not as good battery life (not major though) and modem/radio connection issues. That being said, some devices aren't getting those issues.
Also, stock is Kitkat while AOSP is on Lollipop. You gotta ask yourself if the extra features you're getting off AOSP are worth the bad things.
P.S.: I personally prefer AOSP but am waiting on source to use it as my daily.
I'm on 855, but I was talking about the stuff that I can do on Stock vs stock based ROM vs aosp ROM. Like 4k recording for example and duo window screen...
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The "gimp" depends on which variant you have. Like the D855 has great aosp ROMs while others are getting issues here and there cause the 5.0 source hasn't been released for them yet.
So if you're one of those other variants, you can expect things like bad (or not as good) camera, sound issues (mainly music), not as good battery life (not major though) and modem/radio connection issues. That being said, some devices aren't getting those issues.
Also, stock is Kitkat while AOSP is on Lollipop. You gotta ask yourself if the extra features you're getting off AOSP are worth the bad things.
P.S.: I personally prefer AOSP but am waiting on source to use it as my daily.
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I'm on 855, see my previous post to see if you can understand what I'm asking.
Thanks in advance!
Hgneto said:
I'm on 855, see my previous post to see if you can understand what I'm asking.
Thanks in advance!
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First, a tiny bit for Lollipop defenders. Yes, i always did a full wipe, always installed same apps set up in the same way manually. I always updated cust, rpm and tz to relevant versions. And i always gave system 24h to make all needed background syncs.
Official 5.0 is bad, because of:
1) Lags. Animation is still choppy. Applications are slow to launch, etc.
2) Heat. Phone heats up way more than on KK.
3) Battery. SOT is noticeably worse.
Since LL came out not too long ago, all AOSP roms based on it are still in alpha phase. I believe that most issues will be sorted out later.
AOSP LL is bad because of:
1) Lags. There is way less lags than on official LL, but there are sudden and unpredictable slowdowns.
2) Battery. It is worser than official LL, which makes it almost unusable. 4h SOT (in the same conditions in which official LL lasted 6 and KK 8) is bad.
3) Everything proprietary is more or less broken. Worse (Or none at all?..) low light algorithms in camera software, no Qmemo, etc etc etc.
My advice? Stay on KK for now. LL still needs a lot more polishing...
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First, a tiny bit for Lollipop defenders. Yes, i always did a full wipe, always installed same apps set up in the same way manually. I always updated cust, rpm and tz to relevant versions. And i always gave system 24h to make all needed background syncs.
Official 5.0 is bad, because of:
1) Lags. Animation is still choppy. Applications are slow to launch, etc.
2) Heat. Phone heats up way more than on KK.
3) Battery. SOT is noticeably worse.
Since LL came out not too long ago, all AOSP roms based on it are still in alpha phase. I believe that most issues will be sorted out later.
AOSP LL is bad because of:
1) Lags. There is way less lags than on official LL, but there are sudden and unpredictable slowdowns.
2) Battery. It is worser than official LL, which makes it almost unusable. 4h SOT (in the same conditions in which official LL lasted 6 and KK 8) is bad.
3) Everything proprietary is more or less broken. Worse (Or none at all?..) low light algorithms in camera software, no Qmemo, etc etc etc.
My advice? Stay on KK for now. LL still needs a lot more polishing...
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Not deciding between lolipop or kitkat, just trying to decide either to go stock based ROM or aosp ROM...
Hgneto said:
Not deciding between lolipop or kitkat, just trying to decide either to go stock based ROM or aosp ROM...
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Then read the last part Stay on stock, customs aren't ready yet.
Hgneto said:
Not deciding between lolipop or kitkat, just trying to decide either to go stock based ROM or aosp ROM...
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Then read the last part Stay on stock, customs aren't ready yet.
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There are stock based (KK) custom ROMs that do just fine. I would definitely go with stock based atm. AOSP needs polishing.
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There are stock based (KK) custom ROMs that do just fine. I would definitely go with stock based atm. AOSP needs polishing.
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So basically you are all saying that for AOSP only on Kitkat and for lollipop I should stay on stock based ROM's for now?
Thanks!
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Hgneto said:
So basically you are all saying that for AOSP only on Kitkat and for lollipop I should stay on stock based ROM's for now?
Thanks!
Sent from my G3
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I believe that most if not all AOSP ROMs are on LL.
Idk about D855 LL stock based ROM but KK performs great. Imo, just test them and see which one your prefer.