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Getting android pay to work while rooted

Ive searched and found 2 solutions, first being use rootcloak, second being disable supersu in supersu settings. Unfourtunatly none of those work for me and i still get the "unable to verify android verson" error. Anyone have any success with another method? Im running viper 3.5.0

TheAtheistOtaku said:
Ive searched and found 2 solutions, first being use rootcloak, second being disable supersu in supersu settings. Unfourtunatly none of those works for me and i still get the "unable to verify android verson" error. Anyone have any success with another method? Im running viper 3.5.0
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I was able to temp unroot using SuperSU and then add cards to the app.

dratsablive said:
I was able to temp unroot using SuperSU and then add cards to the app.
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as said in my original post, that didnt work

TheAtheistOtaku said:
as said in my original post, that didnt work
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You might not be able to use Android Pay with a custom ROM.

I think that's the deal. I do use it , before google wallet work just fine .
@dratsablive is your phone on a custom ROM??

TheAtheistOtaku said:
as said in my original post, that didnt work
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That's not true , after taking root off , then the app worked , after it work , enable root again and still work , both the root and the Android pay,
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dratsablive said:
I was able to temp unroot using SuperSU and then add cards to the app.
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It did work for me too, is annoying now , now the phone has to have a lock screen set up. Google Wallet had better . It does look better to the eye though

For now, there is no guaranteed way to maintain both root & use Android Pay. XDA featured an explanation on the portal that was offered by one of Google's security engineers. It's fairly straightforward, if disappointing for anyone who wants both.

Mine stop working after a day ,
I just uninstall it , I was happy cuz it was annoying having the screen lock with a pin or pattern

lateral18 said:
I think that's the deal. I do use it , before google wallet work just fine .
@dratsablive is your phone on a custom ROM??
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I am on the Developer Edition, no custom ROM.

dratsablive said:
I am on the Developer Edition, no custom ROM.
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Yes , for now the phone is on ARHD. I've read an article the apps looks for the build number , and cloak doesn't work at all. Not even with xpose,
I do use it too . Ohh well
I like the new UI looked way more polished than wallet lol

no info/answer on this i have not tried android pay before but good to know all issues for when needed.

has anyone tried dirty flashing a stock rom setting up android pay then dirty flashing back to the wanted rom?

Hello
any 6.0 versions out there with integreated Android PAY ?

I get it to add cards by:
chmod 751 /su/bin
then
renaming xbin_bind folder
As far as working haven't tried it yet

what do you rename to the xbin_bind folder to? doesn't seem to be working for me

Adebayo88 said:
what do you rename to the xbin_bind folder to? doesn't seem to be working for me
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Anything but xbin_bind.

I'm wondering about this too. I guess in the meantime I could always get a contactless credit card and superglue it to the back of the phone. To emulate the NFC effect, I could just turn on the torch.

Systemless Root & Android Pay

So I'd like to know how I can use Chainfire's new systemless root to then still use Android Pay. I downloaded the Android binaries from Google for the 5X and proceeded like so:
(I was already rooted with the normal method that modifies the /system parition)
1. Run flash-all.bat to flash all partitions and go back to stock.
2. Install the modified boot.img from Chainfire
3. Install the latest TWRP 2.8.7.2
4. Reboot into TWRP
5. Install using adb sideload from TWRP the beta SuperSU
6. Reboot into phone and set it up... restore Titanium Backups...
The problem is that Android Pay still won't let me add a card to it....
Did I do something wrong in this process here?
Would love it if someone who has done this could help me out here..
Thanks!

chickentech said:
So I'd like to know how I can use Chainfire's new systemless root to then still use Android Pay. I downloaded the Android binaries from Google for the 5X and proceeded like so:
(I was already rooted with the normal method that modifies the /system parition)
1. Run flash-all.bat to flash all partitions and go back to stock.
2. Install the modified boot.img from Chainfire
3. Install the latest TWRP 2.8.7.2
4. Reboot into TWRP
5. Install using adb sideload from TWRP the beta SuperSU
6. Reboot into phone and set it up... restore Titanium Backups...
The problem is that Android Pay still won't let me add a card to it....
Did I do something wrong in this process here?
Would love it if someone who has done this could help me out here..
Thanks!
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Did you hide/disable/uninstall supersu and reboot before opening the Android pay app?
If not, do that, and clear app data for Android pay. Then try to set it up.

Android pay and root don't work. If you want Android Pay to work, you need to disable root anytime you want to use it and even then it may not work.

buru898 said:
Did you hide/disable/uninstall supersu and reboot before opening the Android pay app?
If not, do that, and clear app data for Android pay. Then try to set it up.
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metpage said:
Android pay and root don't work. If you want Android Pay to work, you need to disable root anytime you want to use it and even then it may not work.
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Systemless root does work with Android Pay when root is on. At the very least, you should be able to add cards. Which means you should be able to use pay in general. Safetynet checks in Pay are not that strict.
Did you flash TWRP and boot into recovery or did you boot it from fastboot USB?
Have you tried simply putting the zip on the device and flashing it from there?
Did you let TWRP install SU/Root in the prompt before rebooting? (The answer should be no)

formula91 said:
Systemless root does work with Android Pay when root is on. At the very least, you should be able to add cards. Which means you should be able to use pay in general. Safetynet checks in Pay are not that strict.
Did you flash TWRP and boot into recovery or did you boot it from fastboot USB?
Have you tried simply putting the zip on the device and flashing it from there?
Did you let TWRP install SU/Root in the prompt before rebooting? (The answer should be no)
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To answer,
You can read exactly what I did above. I did not let TWRP install SU for me, and rebooted using the power button I believe after installing the Beta SU from TWRP's ADB sideload..
I'll try again tonight as I KNOW Android Pay DOES work with the new Systemless Root, I just haven't gotten it right on my first try here.
Thanks.

chickentech said:
To answer,
You can read exactly what I did above. I did not let TWRP install SU for me, and rebooted using the power button I believe after installing the Beta SU from TWRP's ADB sideload..
I'll try again tonight as I KNOW Android Pay DOES work with the new Systemless Root, I just haven't gotten it right on my first try here.
Thanks.
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Have you tried doing Android Pay before restoring stuff from Titanium Backups? There is a slim possibility that it may be altering something from system, making it fail the safetynet checks.
I would try flashing the zip from TWRP instead of sideloading as well. Just in case.

chickentech said:
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I'll try again tonight as I KNOW Android Pay DOES work with the new Systemless Root, I just haven't gotten it right on my first try here.
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Uh... how exactly can you know something "DOES" work if your one and only attempt at making it work was a complete failure and no one else has been able to get it to work?
Not saying Android Pay can't work with systemless route in one form or another. But to make a statement as if something is of fact when you've proven nothing to support that fact is a bit idiotic.
But hey, people said Einstein and Tesla had idiotic ideas. So here's to hoping.

sn0warmy said:
Uh... how exactly can you know something "DOES" work if your one and only attempt at making it work was a complete failure and no one else has been able to get it to work?
Not saying Android Pay can't work with systemless route in one form or another. But to make a statement as if something is of fact when you've proven nothing to support that fact is a bit idiotic.
But hey, people said Einstein and Tesla had idiotic ideas. So here's to hoping.
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The same could be said for not doing your own research. This is a section for helping others
Right at the bottom: http://www.xda-developers.com/chainfire-releases-root-for-android-6-0-without-modifying-system/
Update: Reddit user MajorNoodles has informed that Android Pay works on his Nexus 5. Chainfire, on his Google+ post, does mention that the working of Android Pay is by accident and not by design. He expects Android Pay to be updated in the future to counteract this.
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Unless that hole has been patched already, it should still work, but we won't know for how long.
@chickentech I'm not in much of a position to help, given my location, but this might help you debug whether it is Pay being weird or if SafetyNet is tripped: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cigital.safetynetplayground

nvm

PhoenixTank said:
The same could be said for not doing your own research. This is a section for helping others
Right at the bottom: http://www.xda-developers.com/chainfire-releases-root-for-android-6-0-without-modifying-system/
Unless that hole has been patched already, it should still work, but we won't know for how long.
@chickentech I'm not in much of a position to help, given my location, but this might help you debug whether it is Pay being weird or if SafetyNet is tripped: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cigital.safetynetplayground
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Thanks...
I said I knew because I actually READ.. As you have.
Probably something to do with the order I'm doing things in.. Or as mentioned, the Titanium backup could definitely do it..
You know, I wouldn't even Root if there was a good way to block ads without - but most of what I've seen isn't quite there for me.
Again, thank you @PhoenixTank

chickentech said:
Thanks...
I said I knew because I actually READ.. As you have.
Probably something to do with the order I'm doing things in.. Or as mentioned, the Titanium backup could definitely do it..
You know, I wouldn't even Root if there was a good way to block ads without - but most of what I've seen isn't quite there for me.
Again, thank you @PhoenixTank
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If you're rooting to modify the hosts file to block ads.... that changes system, and will trip Android Pay's SafetyNet checks. The best adblocking I can get without changing System is Adblock Plus for Android. (Root on ABP seems to only allow some sort of localhost proxy network rerouting instead)
FYI Safetynet Playground trips for me, but Android Pay works just fine.
UPDATE: Weird, now I pass, must be because I recently re-encrypted my phone.
So now it's confirmed, I can use Android Pay and not trip SafetyNet API. Neato.

Thanks! That hosts file was it.. A fresh install and I'm gold with Safetynet Many thanks all around!

You're very welcome!
Right now I'm using adblock plus + a "patcher" that's pretty "lucky" heh.

Hi there everyone !!
I gone a long way till now...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/help/req-help-to-unbrick-t3251740
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/help/how-to-enable-oem-unlocking-bricked-t3249003
And now I'm trying to get full Stock phone with Encryption, Locked oem and systemless Root without No warnings. = S E L R N
As far as I went was S R N when i tried to encrypt it got stucked on colorful bubbles screen.
Anyone got idea how to reach this ?
Did somone checked is AdAway after changing location of host file and symlinking it, stops Google Pay/Makes additional warning while booting ?

What are the chances of eventually being able to use Android Pay on custom ROM?

Losing Android Pay is really the only thing keeping me on the stock ROM. Is this something that devs are even looking into or has everyone just resigned themselves to not using it if you want a custom ROM?

goodtimes50 said:
Losing Android Pay is really the only thing keeping me on the stock ROM. Is this something that devs are even looking into or has everyone just resigned themselves to not using it if you want a custom ROM?
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Easy enough to achieve, depends on how the developer implements root in their ROM.

I am on LeeDroids ROM and Android pay works.

chazall1 said:
I am on LeeDroids ROM and Android pay works.
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Really?! Have you actually added a card and used it to make payments via NFC?

chazall1 said:
I am on LeeDroids ROM and Android pay works.
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I don't believe you.

I checked the LeeDroid thread and multiple people have reported it working. I'd just be paranoid with every AP update that it will no longer work.

Speaking off android pay, can you hide the annoying NFC icon from statusbar without root? I use my mobile banking app a lot and my bank app won't work with rooted phones (found that out on my M8). I am aware that I need the NFC on for Android Pay to work but I wish it could just turn itself on when needed

Rotten Ross said:
Speaking off android pay, can you hide the annoying NFC icon from statusbar without root? I use my mobile banking app a lot and my bank app won't work with rooted phones (found that out on my M8). I am aware that I need the NFC on for Android Pay to work but I wish it could just turn itself on when needed
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No, unfortunately you're stuck with the icon without root.

Android Pay also works on Badboyz Sprint ROM. I used it yesterday at Walgreens.....

I have been making payments for a week now. Can add delete cards
Give it a try

Great news! Thanks guys!

failedjedi said:
I don't believe you.
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You can believe what you want, Unlocked, Rooted, S-offed on BadBoyz ROM and Android Pay works.

chazall1 said:
I have been making payments for a week now. Can add delete cards
Give it a try
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Hi. Noob, kinda, here...
I'm on LeeDrOid r110, systemless xposed and SuperSu, but have yet to get Android Pay to work. I've even tried disabling Xposed and SuperSu, which only crashes as I try to add a credit card, specifically, once I press the "+" icon, my screen goes black, then it crashes and I get the Android Pay white loading screen. How do you have it set up?
Oh, I'm on 1.80.xxxx, S-Off...

k_l_o said:
Hi. Noob, kinda, here...
I'm on LeeDrOid r110, systemless xposed and SuperSu, but have yet to get Android Pay to work. I've even tried disabling Xposed and SuperSu, which only crashes as I try to add a credit card, specifically, once I press the "+" icon, my screen goes black, then it crashes and I get the Android Pay white loading screen. How do you have it set up?
Oh, I'm on 1.80.xxxx, S-Off...
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Xposed breaks android pay as it modifies the system. How are you "disabling" it? Did you flash the removal .zip in recovery? If not I would try that first and see if you can get Android Pay working. If you have done that and android pay is still not working I would flash the appropriate RUU to get back to stock, unrooted, then go through the steps to root (systemless) and flash your rom, but do not install xposed. It SHOULD work after that.

BladeRunner said:
Xposed breaks android pay as it modifies the system. How are you "disabling" it? Did you flash the removal .zip in recovery? If not I would try that first and see if you can get Android Pay working. If you have done that and android pay is still not working I would flash the appropriate RUU to get back to stock, unrooted, then go through the steps to root (systemless) and flash your rom, but do not install xposed. It SHOULD work after that.
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Hi Bladerunner.
Thanks for replying. Didn't realize how old this thread was until after posting.
I'm using the Systemless Xposed v85.7 from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-systemless-xposed-t3388268
There's a "Disable Xposed" toggle, I guess similar to SuperSu also has a toggle. I want Xposed more than I want Android Pay. Maybe these people that are Unlocked, Rooted, S-Off, and running LeeDrOid don't have Xposed install and that's why their Android Pay is working.
Anyway, I'm just a bit OCD or unrealistic in thinking I can have it all.
And I would "Thank" you, but reached my quota today. Will make up tomorrow.
Cheers...

Android Pay works without issue on a systemless rooted stock ROM even... Just don't modify system and you're good. For now anyway.

schmeggy929 said:
You can believe what you want, Unlocked, Rooted, S-offed on BadBoyz ROM and Android Pay works.
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Hi schmeggy.
Any chance you don't have Xposed installed? I don't see it listed in your signature. I think that's the true culprit. Beside being on different ROM, I'm on LeeDrOid which is systemless, Xposed is the only difference with your setup.
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EtherealRemnant said:
Android Pay works without issue on a systemless rooted stock ROM even... Just don't modify system and you're good. For now anyway.
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Thank you for your feedback.
I've tried to maintain systemless, but still no joy. There are posts that state Android Pay works for them and my HTC 10 would be complete if I can solve this issue.

FYI...
Since I love picking at scabs, can't leave well enough alone, and have a severe case of update-itus, last one is a whole different can of worms, I followed my hunch and hope this will help anyone else curioused/interested.
I dirtied flashed my ROM, LeeDrOid, which delete/wrote-over, idk because they're the geniuses, not me, the Xposed Framework, I was able to verify via SafetyNet Helper and being able to add a credit card in Android Pay, that YES, Xposed Framework bunks Android Pay. I will try to make a purchase during lunch today and will update.

k_l_o said:
Hi schmeggy.
Any chance you don't have Xposed installed? I don't see it listed in your signature. I think that's the true culprit. Beside being on different ROM, I'm on LeeDrOid which is systemless, Xposed is the only difference with your setup.
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I see you found the issue, No I do not use Xposed.

k_l_o said:
FYI...
Since I love picking at scabs, can't leave well enough alone, and have a severe case of update-itus, last one is a whole different can of worms, I followed my hunch and hope this will help anyone else curioused/interested.
I dirtied flashed my ROM, LeeDrOid, which delete/wrote-over, idk because they're the geniuses, not me, the Xposed Framework, I was able to verify via SafetyNet Helper and being able to add a credit card in Android Pay, that YES, Xposed Framework bunks Android Pay. I will try to make a purchase during lunch today and will update.
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Too bad we havent been able to figure out a xposed app that tricks safetynet api into thinking its all good, then we could have it all
yea, even with systemless xposed, you still need to disable xposed via the toggle switch, and then reboot to get android pay to work. I managed to get my 2gb of free verizon data for making 3 soda purchases at work. Although, on a semi related note, android pay doesnt like one of my CC's with SE chip, it likes my other 2 just fine.

Is it worth rooting OP3?

So my One Plus 3 arrives today.. I am still considering whether to root or not?
I used to avidly root every phone i had but since using Android Pay I am not so sure.
What are you guys going to do? and whats your main reason for rooting?

Root is good if you want adblock, kernel app for adjustments(OC,UC etc), xposed modules etc. I personally root within few days, unlock bL and flash twrp. You can even find browser with built in adblock, no root needed, i suggest that to my friend who wants to keep warranty. It's up to you to decide. Cheers
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Cheers, yeah i used to love xposed for background youtube etc and no adverts but then i found out about adguard and also firetube app!

If u unlocked bootloader warranty is gone?

johnnyman25 said:
If u unlocked bootloader warranty is gone?
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"The technical process of rooting or unlocking the bootloader does not void the warranty of the OnePlus device. However, we strongly suggest for you to only root or unlock the bootloader of the OnePlus device if you are confident that you understand the risks involved. By accessing resources regularly unavailable to software, the process may damage your hardware during or after the procedure, which is not covered under warranty. In warranty handling, we will need to verify that any faulty behavior is unrelated to rooting / unlocking first." - Oneplus Support
So you do not lose your warrenty.

Interesting update guys.. i decided to root.
Used the supersu systemless forced beta from the thread on here and android pay is still working, and my banking fingerprint works etc :s but adaway and titanium works too..
Im now confused.. not gonna flash xposed because that would ruin it right lol

Yes, that is correct, an enabled xposed will disable Android Pay.

Where can you find the correct Xposed for the OP3 anyway?

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Where can you find the correct Xposed for the OP3 anyway?
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Flash the latest V85 sdk23 ARM64

If you bought this phone and don't intend to root, what is the point??? This phone is a tweakers paradise. And what is the big deal about Android Pay? Seriously....just use your card.

I unlocked bootloader and root the phone on the first day. It is worth it at first for Adblocker and the build.prob tweak for Ram-Managment. Better Battery Stats... At the Moment i don't use Xposed. I used it for xprivacy, but the Android 6 has proper right management. If i can find a way to get YouTube Adfree without Xposed, i won't use it.

Haven't found a strong enough reason yet. Got tired of all the flashing, only thing I miss is an adblocker.

You buy such a phone for root, changing roms and so on.. So do it yes

First use
i would first use it with stock rom just to try it.

I flashed SuperSU without breaking the underlying SafetyNet infrastructure and Android Pay works as well. Just using a few more apps like Adaway and Titanium.
I always root my phones, but with the original recovery and boot not being out for this phone, I feel a bit uneasy as there is no way of going back for now.

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I always root my phones, but with the original recovery and boot not being out for this phone, I feel a bit uneasy as there is no way of going back for now.
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Exactly, thats the point I'll wait with further adjustments besides systemless root.
But when it's finally out ... happy flashing. I mean, it's an OP device.

Guitarfreak26 said:
Interesting update guys.. i decided to root.
Used the supersu systemless forced beta from the thread on here and android pay is still working, and my banking fingerprint works etc :s but adaway and titanium works too..
Im now confused.. not gonna flash xposed because that would ruin it right lol
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You can flash Systemless xposed.
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I flashed SuperSU without breaking the underlying SafetyNet infrastructure and Android Pay works as well. Just using a few more apps like Adaway and Titanium.
I always root my phones, but with the original recovery and boot not being out for this phone, I feel a bit uneasy as there is no way of going back for now.
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Boot is there. Only recovery is an issue and believe me, recovery isn't ever needed. You can do everything from twrp. But, recovery should come soon with oneplus 3 on downloads.oneplus.net (when it comes)
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Boot is there. Only recovery is an issue and believe me, recovery isn't ever needed. You can do everything from twrp. But, recovery should come soon with oneplus 3 on downloads.oneplus.net (when it comes)
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Wow thats awesome, thanks man ill give it a whirll!
Incidentally I also own an S7 Edge, can i use the same beta supersu you posted in your thread along with the systemless xposed? Sorry for going off topic in the OP3 forum just thought you would be the man to ask

Guitarfreak26 said:
Wow thats awesome, thanks man ill give it a whirll!
Incidentally I also own an S7 Edge, can i use the same beta supersu you posted in your thread along with the systemless xposed? Sorry for going off topic in the OP3 forum just thought you would be the man to ask
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Systemless Xposed works almost everywhere where normal xposed works. So, if normal xposed works on your phone, Systemless also should. And yes, the systemless supersu might also work. Nothing guaranteed
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Quick question guys,
Im currently waiting for phone to get delivered today. Had a question, If I install xposed first but then remove it would that allow android pay to work again? Or once I install it it can't be undone properly for Pay to work?

does Google Pay work with root ?

been using my phone as locked bootloader for a while now. thinking of rooting again but convenience of google pay is something i do not want to lose. does google pay work with unlocked bootloader?
thanks.

Yes - This guide is still working for me.

gnomish said:
Yes - This guide is still working for me.
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Or specifically this post if you are using Magisk module