Okay, here's the story. My Nexus 7 Gen 2 went into the water for half an instant. However, when I tried to turn it off immediately, it wouldn't turn off. I put it in a container of rice for a couple of days and eventually, it turned off - the battery died, I'm sure. Anyway, now, when I plug in the charger, I get the battery charging symbol, however, it will still not turn on. I've tried some of the button combos mentioned (hold power for 30 seconds, hold power and volume up for 3-5 seconds, hold power and volume down for 15 seconds, even hold power for 2 minutes), yet nothing seems to work. But as soon as I unplug it and plug it back in the charge symbol appears. Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Chris
Okay, read some more on here and got it into boot load mode. Pressing the up arrow puts the start arrow at the top of the screen pointing to the power button, the down arrow "restart bootloader", however, pressing the power button does nothing.
Info on screen:
Fastboot mode
Product name - flo
variant - flo 16g
hw version - rev_e
bootloader version - flo-04.06
carrier info - none
serial number - 0af16079
Signing - yes
secure boot - enabled
lock state - locked
tchudson said:
Okay, here's the story. My Nexus 7 Gen 2 went into the water for half an instant. However, when I tried to turn it off immediately, it wouldn't turn off. I put it in a container of rice for a couple of days and eventually, it turned off - the battery died, I'm sure. Anyway, now, when I plug in the charger, I get the battery charging symbol, however, it will still not turn on. I've tried some of the button combos mentioned (hold power for 30 seconds, hold power and volume up for 3-5 seconds, hold power and volume down for 15 seconds, even hold power for 2 minutes), yet nothing seems to work. But as soon as I unplug it and plug it back in the charge symbol appears. Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Chris
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If you put the tab in the rice container without removing the back, you don't know if all the moisture that seeped in has been removed. You need to disassemble the thing, dry each and every component inside with a blow dryer ( both sides of the electronic boards) to make sure of that. Thereafter, you can try again. Because even if you succeed in flashing the OS anew, you'll never know when the residual moisture will interfere or affect the components again.
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If you put the tab in the rice container without removing the back, you don't know if all the moisture that seeped in has been removed. You need to disassemble the thing, dry each and every component inside with a blow dryer ( both sides of the electronic boards) to make sure of that. Thereafter, you can try again. Because even if you succeed in flashing the OS anew, you'll never know when the residual moisture will interfere or affect the components again.
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I didn't use a blowdryer, but it sat out on a table with the back off for about 24 hours and I do live in southern Colorado in the high desert, so humidity isn't a huge factor. I may give that a try today, though. Thanks.
tchudson said:
I put it in a container of rice for a couple of days and eventually, it turned off - the battery died,
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I'm afraid some corrosion has set in already and it may not be reliable anymore.
Next time, you should immediately disassemble it and disconnect the battery, then use a hairdrier to remove the moisture ASAP.
k23m said:
I'm afraid some corrosion has set in already and it may not be reliable anymore.
Next time, you should immediately disassemble it and disconnect the battery, then use a hairdrier to remove the moisture ASAP.
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So, given that it will open into the reboot screen and the volumen buttons seem to work but the power button itself doesn't work, could it be possible to replace the power and volume buttons and get it to restart? Just wondering if I can manage to salvage this thing.
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So, given that it will open into the reboot screen and the volumen buttons seem to work but the power button itself doesn't work, could it be possible to replace the power and volume buttons and get it to restart? Just wondering if I can manage to salvage this thing.
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Yes, try to replace or test with multimeter the control buttons assembly first but if it does not help then remove the motherboard and its shields, and check it for any visible signs of corrosion. Scratching off a conductive corrosion layer may fix it.
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I have tried the following:
- Leaving the battery out for different lengths of time from 5 minutes to an hour
- Taking the battery out, plugging in to USB, putting the battery in, turning the phone on
The phone is rooted, unlocked and uses a custom ROM. I dropped it LITERALLY a foot and a half from a table onto a soft carpet, and didn't notice until a long time later that it wouldn't turn on. I don't know if the two were related as I didn't look at the phone after I dropped it.
I can only power the phone on if I use the method of taking the battery out, plugging in to the USB and putting the battery in, but whether I try the power button or any combination of volume up/down and power button, the phone stays on for a couple seconds then the screen turns off.
A few times the Google logo has come up and then disappeared and I've had some white scrambled/garbled display toward the bottom of the screen. As it sits plugged in to the PC now with the battery in, every so often it does the garbled lines on the bottom of the screen.
edit: Trying the Volume Down + Power for recovery flashes the screen with "Start" and the Android bot on it for a second, but then it turns right off again.
I'm thinking it's probably pretty screwed up but if anyone has some suggestions, I'm all ears. I'm worried about having to bring it in for repair (even though it's under warranty) because it's rooted/unlocked/custom ROM'd.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
After reading all this, my guess is your device is physically broken. Sorry man.
For those who experience the power button failure here's an easy fix that works for me.
Determine if it a power button issue
Pull battery wait 5 seconds
Put battery back if it automatically boots up then the button is stuck on
Disassemble your phone to the motherboard
Get some WD40 yes I said it LOL
Spray a little on a table surface
Use qtips and dab a little well alot on the power button
Now keep pressing it on and off about 20 times to get the oil running
Assemble and enjoy
mecha2012 said:
For those who experience the power button failure here's an easy fix that works for me.
Determine if it a power button issue
Pull battery wait 5 seconds
Put battery back if it automatically boots up then the button is stuck on
Disassemble your phone to the motherboard
Get some WD40 yes I said it LOL
Spray a little on a table surface
Use qtips and dab a little well alot on the power button
Now keep pressing it on and off about 20 times to get the oil running
Assemble and enjoy
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Your instructions are not very clear. And I tried turning my partially disassembled phone on without anything touching the internal power button and the problem persisted. Does that sound like I need to get it completely replaced?
btoad said:
Your instructions are not very clear. And I tried turning my partially disassembled phone on without anything touching the internal power button and the problem persisted. Does that sound like I need to get it completely replaced?
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If doing this and your problem still persist then yes completely replace it some of us are lucky that this alone was enoughvto fix it.
I did a soft shutdown and now it won't turn on. No response to Vol UP + Vol DOWN + Power. Nothing but black. Its connected to power and was at 80% when I shutdown. USB debugging was enabled. Any hints? Thanks, -RP
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I did a soft shutdown and now it won't turn on. No response to Vol UP + Vol DOWN + Power. Nothing but black. Its connected to power and was at 80% when I shutdown. USB debugging was enabled. Any hints? Thanks, -RP
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Ugh, I had to hold power button for 30 seconds. Its really excessive. Delete this please. Thanks.
funny thing is the old nexus 7 had the same issues
I received mine today and it wouldn't turn on at all. All I got was a flashing white light after holding the button to turn it on so knowing that the same thing was common on the previous generation N7 I tried the 30 second trick with no success so I figured I'd share my experience.
Turns out my battery was at 0% out of the box. It was so dead I had to do the following to actually get it to start charging unfortunately:
1. Open it, I followed the guide @ ifixit: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+7+2nd+Generation+Teardown/16072/1
Note: The plastic bezel surrounding the screen is incredibly soft plastic I just learned. Even using plastic pry tools I ended up leaving marks the plastic, despite being extremely careful.
2. Disconnect the battery (follow the guide above)
3. Press the power button and hold down for 10 seconds, but don't release yet.
4. Using the supplied AC adapter, apply the power and continue holding for another 10 seconds.
5. Reconnect the battery while the AC adapter is plugged inThis should get you to the point where you at least see the battery charge icon on the LCD. I waited another 30 minutes before moving on and powering the device on. I intend to leave it charging to 100% before I do anything else with it.
I remember on some older devices I've had when they got into 0% state, they didn't want to take a charge from a high power charger and I needed to switch to 500ma USB 1.1/2.0 slot on PC and let it sit a while before it would trickle in enough charge to get some life.
After that it would take charge from any source again.
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I received mine today and it wouldn't turn on at all. All I got was a flashing white light after holding the button to turn it on so knowing that the same thing was common on the previous generation N7 I tried the 30 second trick with no success so I figured I'd share my experience.
Turns out my battery was at 0% out of the box. It was so dead I had to do the following to actually get it to start charging unfortunately:
1. Open it, I followed the guide @ ifixit: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+7+2nd+Generation+Teardown/16072/1
Note: The plastic bezel surrounding the screen is incredibly soft plastic I just learned. Even using plastic pry tools I ended up leaving marks the plastic, despite being extremely careful.
2. Disconnect the battery (follow the guide above)
3. Press the power button and hold down for 10 seconds, but don't release yet.
4. Using the supplied AC adapter, apply the power and continue holding for another 10 seconds.
5. Reconnect the battery while the AC adapter is plugged inThis should get you to the point where you at least see the battery charge icon on the LCD. I waited another 30 minutes before moving on and powering the device on. I intend to leave it charging to 100% before I do anything else with it.
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mine was this dead too I just let it sit on charge for 2 hours and was up and running.
kpa2727 said:
mine was this dead too I just let it sit on charge for 2 hours and was up and running.
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lol - this happened to me too. Except double whammy - as soon as it was charged enough to turn on, it wanted to do the system update and wasn't charged enough to do that. Back to the USB it went!
Well I got my replacement for the one with the dead pixels, it started up fine and I even configured just to check it had no dead pixels. I had to step away for a few minutes and it was off, completely dead. Tried ever variation of tricks and I get nothing, no white LED, no charge indicator, nothing.
I think I'm sending both the replacement and the original back for a refund, this is just unacceptable at this point.
I bought one but returned it after 3-4 days. Mine was fully powered and I would go through the shutdown procedure. The device would power off. Then I tried to turn it back on. It would not work. I held it down for several variations of time: pushed it quickly, help the power button in for 10 sec, 15 sec, 30 sec... I found that when I connected the device to power through the usb the screen would show 100% charge right away. I would then hit the power button and it would turn on fine. I immediately unplugged the device and everything was fine. i powered it down again and repeated this process 2-3 more times before I said the heck with it. Anyone else know of this issue or did I just have some crazy unit?
So i went out on a night out and my battery went flat whilst i was out. I come to start it after charging it up and it just keeps popping up with the start up screen for a split second and then going off. It keeps doing this until i unplug the charger or take the battery out. I managed to get into the reboot screen and tried starting it from there to no avail. The battery is only a couple of months old so that should be good.
I took it to a phone repair shop and they said the board was gone and that there was nothing that could be done with it. Is this the case?
I don't generally turn it off just keep charging when it gets below 20% battery life. I did however install solitaire since i last powered it down if this might have any influence on the situation.
Check if you can get into the bootloader. Hold volume down and power.
Chromium_ said:
Check if you can get into the bootloader. Hold volume down and power.
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I have tried this but although it comes up with the bootloader screen it flashes off gain as with the boot up screen. It does not give you time to do anything in the bootloader.
mikeryan8878 said:
I have tried this but although it comes up with the bootloader screen it flashes off gain as with the boot up screen. It does not give you time to do anything in the bootloader.
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Are you sure the battery isnt completely dead? Did you drop the phone or do anything that may have caused this, or did it just suddenly occur?
Chromium_ said:
Are you sure the battery isnt completely dead? Did you drop the phone or do anything that may have caused this, or did it just suddenly occur?
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No i have charged and recharged it until the green light comes on. The chap at the shop tried another battery also and this had no effect on it.
I dont recall dropping it. It is in a substantial wallet holder so i would think that would take the brunt of the blow even if i had. But it worked fine all night until it powered down then it just started to play up.
Right while messing a bit further it seems to me that the on off button is constantly activating. If i just hold the return button it comes up with the reboot screen and allows me to choose the various options. If i hold the volume button the fastboot screen appears but disappears just as quickly. All of this happens with out me touching the on off button so it looks like it is constantly trying to start up. The button does not have any visible signs of damage. Is this a normal failure point for these phones?
If it charges completely while it's off, then the board should be fine. You can check the percentage in your recovery mode if you can get there.
If the board is fine, it either means that the button is stuck or you have some gunk short circuit in the button.
If it's gunk, you might get away with some rubbing alcohol, If it's in a spray can, even better. If it stuck, it should be opened and see what's keeping it pressed.
I hope this helps.
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So here's how it went:
I opened the phone, replaced the port (the small boardlike thing)
assembled my phone to try it.
The phone started
Then I put all the screws and sim card But I didnt get signal no matter how long I waited
So I dissassembled it again. I was a bit harsh and broke the "Power" button. (the rubber thing that makes it bounce fell off, and an small metallic circle that probably completes the circuit fell off as well.
(Google "galaxy note 2 charger port" for a picture, cant post external links @[email protected])
Checked everything was plugged properly and tried to start it with the tip of a paper clip to complete the circuit where the power button should be (that small round thing)
Nothing happened so I googled a method to start it without using the powerbutton:
youtube: Gre9qaJyCZw
Basically its to plug the charger, wait for the battery logo to show, unplug, take out the battery and put it back in quickly.
So I assembled the phone again to try that and when I connect it to charge it the screen flashes for half a second (no words no nothing, it just brightens up for a bit) And then the red led that means its charging turns on after a couple of seconds.
After doing the trick, the led turns on blue....then the phone vibrates a bit(seems its starting up, but with no sound or nothing in the screen)
And then the "menu" soft key blinks a couple of times and then back to nothing
So I just have no idea what to do @[email protected] I dont mind replacing the button but I would rather not spend on it if there's something else wrong with the phone...any ideas?
And I just bought this to replace another phone that broke ;_;
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I replaced the charger port for the old one and tried the starting trick. but to the same result: after doing the trick, the led turns on blue....then the phone vibrates a bit(seems its starting up, but with no sound or nothing in the screen)
And then the "menu" soft key blinks a couple of times and then back to nothing
Shmendrich said:
So here's how it went:
I opened the phone, replaced the port (the small boardlike thing)
assembled my phone to try it.
The phone started
Then I put all the screws and sim card But I didnt get signal no matter how long I waited
So I dissassembled it again. I was a bit harsh and broke the "Power" button. (the rubber thing that makes it bounce fell off, and an small metallic circle that probably completes the circuit fell off as well.
(Google "galaxy note 2 charger port" for a picture, cant post external links @[email protected])
Checked everything was plugged properly and tried to start it with the tip of a paper clip to complete the circuit where the power button should be (that small round thing)
Nothing happened so I googled a method to start it without using the powerbutton:
youtube: Gre9qaJyCZw
Basically its to plug the charger, wait for the battery logo to show, unplug, take out the battery and put it back in quickly.
So I assembled the phone again to try that and when I connect it to charge it the screen flashes for half a second (no words no nothing, it just brightens up for a bit) And then the red led that means its charging turns on after a couple of seconds.
After doing the trick, the led turns on blue....then the phone vibrates a bit(seems its starting up, but with no sound or nothing in the screen)
And then the "menu" soft key blinks a couple of times and then back to nothing
So I just have no idea what to do @[email protected] I dont mind replacing the button but I would rather not spend on it if there's something else wrong with the phone...any ideas?
And I just bought this to replace another phone that broke ;_;
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I replaced the charger port for the old one and tried the starting trick. What happened now is that after doing the trick, the led turns on blue....then the phone vibrates a bit(seems its starting up, but with no sound or nothing in the screen)
And then the "menu" soft key blinks a couple of times and then back to nothing
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you probably messed up the mainboard or some connections.
Try to power it on with microusb board disconnected.
Make sure every single connection to the main board is connected properly
yaro666 said:
you probably messed up the mainboard or some connections.
Try to power it on with microusb board disconnected.
Make sure every single connection to the main board is connected properly
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Any suggestion as to how I can start the phone with the power button broken and without the microusb board?
I already checked all the connections that you can see when replacing the microusb board (the back side of the motherboard) Is there connections worth checking in the front?
Do those symptoms sound familiar for any specific problems? (Like non working screen or motherboard)
- Charging takes a couple of seconds to turn on the red led when connected but shows nothing on the screen.
- Trying to start it with taking out the battery trick makes the led turn blue, then the phone vibrates a bit, then the menu soft key flashes a couple of times.
Update: I found 2 more symptoms
1° Kept restarting the phone with the battery trick, and a couple of times I could hear the music of the phone starting up, but it seems to be at random or due to some factor I have not spotted yet
2° If I connect it to the computer it detects the phone and lets me access the files. Kies detects it as well
If phone can be accessed through kies I think you have broken some connection between logic board.
Power button and volume + - buttons should have the same round metal part, which will work after swapping.
I think you should give up, maybe there is still hope for repair.
yaro666 said:
If phone can be accessed through kies I think you have broken some connection between logic board.
Power button and volume + - buttons should have the same round metal part, which will work after swapping.
I think you should give up, maybe there is still hope for repair.
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Thats the weird thing. if you take a look at that phone's board, the only things that are within "breakable" range when you open it with a plastic tool are:
power button
charger port
earphones port
volume buttons
And they all seem fine except for the power button. there's no other flexors or anything even remotely close to where the tool was used. (and where I got a bit rough)