Hello, I have a OnePlus 3 and have Sprint. Not realizing the device only supports GSM out of the box i found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
Here one person was able to enable band 20 on a OnePlus One. I was wondering if it is at all possible to enable bands 10 or 1 for Sprint 3G. Or better yet bands 25, 26, 41.
I was also wondering, if I were to attempt this is there a risk of ruining the phone?
I recall band 20 was unable to be activated on the OPO as the device simply was not provisioned with a radio for that band.
Modding will not overcome hardware deficiencies.
Is Sprint a CDMA carrier? OnePlus do not support CDMA at all as the US is the only significant country using that outdated technology.
r25txe said:
I recall band 20 was unable to be activated on the OPO as the device simply was not provisioned with a radio for that band.
Modding will not overcome hardware deficiencies.
Is Sprint a CDMA carrier? OnePlus do not support CDMA at all as the US is the only significant country using that outdated technology.
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would there be any way to enable wcdma 3g through sprint or should I sell the phone.
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would there be any way to enable wcdma 3g through sprint or should I sell the phone.
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I do not think so.
First, I am assuming you have the international OPO. Go to willmyphonework.net and see for yourself; your phone is totally incompatible with Sprint. Even 2G bands are not available under its standard configuration.
At this stage you have two choices, return the phone for exchange/sell it or try and edit the hardware settings to make more bands available.
If you bought it new I would just return it rather than modifying the hardware setup.
If you want to tinker with it, you need to start here and also here and see will they unlock the bands you need.
Basically, follow the guides exactly and tick every radio band that appears in the programme and hopefully the bands for Sprint is among those available for your hardware.
I think I tried to activate band 20 4G and it did not seem to work. I have the international OPO.
The OP in the first link is a Chinese model, but the steps are the same.
To quote from the 2nd link I posted:
It will theoretically unlock:
GSM: DCS-1800/P-GSM/E-GSM/GSM-850/Railways-900/PCS-1900
WCDMA: Band I to XI
LTE: Band 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 19, 20, 21
PS: Even if they're theoretically enabled, some band cannot be used because of hardware limitation...
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Even though all the above seem to be available to activate, some work, and some do not. [band 20 has a strikethrough, for example]
r25txe said:
I do not think so.
First, I am assuming you have the international OPO. Go to willmyphonework.net and see for yourself; your phone is totally incompatible with Sprint. Even 2G bands are not available under its standard configuration.
At this stage you have two choices, return the phone for exchange/sell it or try and edit the hardware settings to make more bands available.
If you bought it new I would just return it rather than modifying the hardware setup.
If you want to tinker with it, you need to start here and also here and see will they unlock the bands you need.
Basically, follow the guides exactly and tick every radio band that appears in the programme and hopefully the bands for Sprint is among those available for your hardware.
I think I tried to activate band 20 4G and it did not seem to work. I have the international OPO.
The OP in the first link is a Chinese model, but the steps are the same.
To quote from the 2nd link I posted:
Even though all the above seem to be available to activate, some work, and some do not. [band 20 has a strikethrough, for example]
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I believe you need the right. Qcn from the model phone with the supported bands you want for this guide. With respect to the oneplus 3.
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How to know which LTE band?
Hi!
I know that this has been talked before, but I could not find anything that works.
I have bought a HTC M8 dual sim in switzerland. Back in Argentina, I tried to make 4G work, and, of course, it doesn't.
I have read that there is some chance to change the band, by the qualcomm.
so.. how do I know which band(S) does my phone have?
Thanks in advance!
I use "LTE Discovery" App. Available on the Play Store.
xxopiumxx said:
Hi!
I know that this has been talked before, but I could not find anything that works.
I have bought a HTC M8 dual sim in switzerland. Back in Argentina, I tried to make 4G work, and, of course, it doesn't.
I have read that there is some chance to change the band, by the qualcomm.
so.. how do I know which band(S) does my phone have?
Thanks in advance!
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According to this webpage, it supports LTE bands 3, 7, 8 and 20. And according to list of LTE bands by country on Wiki, Argentina uses LTE band 4. So it makes sense that you don't have LTE.
While radios are typically interchangeable among "regular" GSM M8 versions (s-off required to flash radios); this is not true for the Dual SIM. So while you are correct that band support is software based on the Snapdragon 801, the normal method to change bands is to flash another carrier version's radio. I don't think you have another version's radio to flash. Some folks have modified the the NV values on the CDMA M8 to change band support. But to my knowledge, nobody has gotten this to work on non-CDMA versions of the M8 (the changes just revert themselves after reboot).
I suspect you are out of luck. This is really something you should have researched before buying the phone.
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According to this webpage, it supports LTE bands 3, 7, 8 and 20. And according to list of LTE bands by country on Wiki, Argentina uses LTE band 4. So it makes sense that you don't have LTE.
While radios are typically interchangeable among "regular" GSM M8 versions (s-off required to flash radios); this is not true for the Dual SIM. So while you are correct that band support is software based on the Snapdragon 801, the normal method to change bands is to flash another carrier version's radio. I don't think you have another version's radio to flash. Some folks have modified the the NV values on the CDMA M8 to change band support. But to my knowledge, nobody has gotten this to work on non-CDMA versions of the M8 (the changes just revert themselves after reboot).
I suspect you are out of luck. This is really something you should have researched before buying the phone.
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I kind of did. This is an fantastic mobile, besides the LTE detail; and by buying it in europe I've spent less than half of its price in Arg. pitifully.. I need the dual SIM. So, still a win win.
I will try to modify the NV values with QXDM... maybe i still have some luck left.
thanks =D
Hi
Quick question from a newbie. I am currently in the uk and would love to preorder the 10 but I can only get the UK version but I would like the US version. Are there any significant drawbacks? Would most likely use it on TMobile once I relocate to the US. I have seen earlier posts on frequencies and bands but I was hoping on a plain English response? Mostly interested in LTE of course. Thanks!
Gotta find out if the UK version of the phone supports US network bands/frequencies to see if it'll work properly with the network you're interested in. Software wise should be the same. The HTC UK site lists #WL SKU(America) under supported networks but it also says, "Network bands in regions may be different, depending on the mobile operator and your location."
I'm sure someone in here knows whether you only get support for one region based on where you order from or if you get support for all regions listed on the spec page. Unclear to me. US page only lists US bands though.
I dont think the EU/ASIA models have the US LTE bands.
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Yes the main difference is the LTE bands. The US version has different bands to the UK version. Generally the UK uses band 8 for LTE, which the US version does not have. You would still be able to use the phone for texts, calls and even 3G access, but, you would not get LTE. Let us know, what service provider you are with, we can then see if the phone is comparable or not for you.
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I don't have the phone yet obviously. I am on three UK now but once we relocate to the US I will most likely be signing up to TMobile. I thought some of the frequencies are the same? Different bands but frequency seems the same in the UK and US?
But to be honest after looking into it might be best to pick it up in the us for the warranty and the Uh Oh insurance.
Thanks for the replies. Hope this question helps someone else.
From what I can see, Three supports band 3 for LTE. Looking at the US speck phone it says the following: 4G LTE (up to 450Mbps), FDD: Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 20, 28, 29, 30, Support Cat 9 LTE, download up to 450 Mbps, upload up to 50 Mbps, so in theory it should work for you both here and in the US. I would double check with Three that their network is definitely band 3.
Thanks Stephen
At the same time of posting here I had also emailed HTC support and they came back to me with a brief statement that it will work as the phone supports 'multiple frequencies'. This was not a highly technical reply but at least now I have it writing!
Your answer certainly puts my mind at ease and I have gone ahead and preordered!
Strangely I had no option to choose 32 or 64GB storage though and they took payment immediately rather than wait till shipping time. Does this mean it's on the way already?
Thanks again. Will revisit this post in three months time I suppose and jet you guys know!
I've been wondering about this, too, and I think the UK HTC 10 is not fully compatible with AT&T or T-Mobile networks in the US. From Droid-Life, the bands needed are:
AT&T LTE bands 2, 4, 12, 17
T-Mobile LTE bands 2, 4, 12
From Clove, the bands supported are:
FDD B1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 12, 20, 28, 32; TDD B38, 40, 41
As you can see, the UK version is missing bands 2 and 4, which are used by both US GSM carriers, and also 17, which is used by AT&T.
I've been looking at this because the UK HTC 10 is about the same price as the US one, but it comes with HD earbuds. Unfortunately, it looks like it's incompatible.
EDIT:
I also found HTC's international HTC 10 page, and it spells it out pretty clearly in the Network specs that the EMEA version of the HTC 10 is missing many bands from the American version If anyone has information to the contrary that would be great...
I have the International HTC 10 (m10H) and its working on AT&T LTE band 17. I haven't seen it connected to band 2 or 4 yet.
I'm using a UK version on Tmobile and it works fine the network.
My signal stays on 4g and I've only dropped to HSPA once, which is fine with me. Aside from that, text, calls, etc all work without issue.
If you're after the headphones, they're pretty nice though they're a bit bass heavy for my taste. They sound good though and the noise isolation is surprisingly good.
Hi
probably you can use con T-mo, but you can not use in AT/T. The asian version doesn´t work in any 4G in the US
I'm considering buying a Note 7 through Verizon.
Verizon claims that they do not "lock" their devices so they cannot "unlock" them.
here are the LTE bands that their Note 7 supports: LTE Band 2,4,5,13 LTE Roaming 3,7,8, 18,19,20GSM/UMTS QuadTD-SCDMA 34, 39TDD LTE 38, 39, 40, 41.
No band 12 (T-Mo), no band 17 (AT&T) no band 25 9print). same situation with AT&T, no band 13, no band 12, no band 25.
Question: is Samsung building the Note 7 specifically for the individual carrier and no matter what, if I want 4g LTE on another carrier I'll be SOL? will rooting the device solve this problem?
is this restriction controlled by software, firmware or bios? thank you in advance for any insights.
I am also wondering the same thing. If I got the Sprint Note 7 would I be able to bring it over to AT&T and/or T-Mobile and use all there bands fine later on?
My GUESS (notice the all caps...) is that it is software controlled.... Pretty sure they are shipping the same hardware to every carrier in the US. That being said... it may not be easy (if possible at all) to make it do what you want... Locked bootloader and all....
Im sure root will be had at some point, but most of us may no longer own the device by then....
Why dont you just buy the international model which is unlocked?
It's usually controlled via qcn config which can be modified with the proper tools (QPST). I don't think this one will be any different.
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toastido said:
It's usually controlled via qcn config which can be modified with the proper tools (QPST). I don't think this one will be any different.
Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk
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this might be of some assistance:
http://willmyphonework.net/
** Edit, aslo this: https://www.frequencycheck.com/
what got me here in the first place is that frequency check lists one thing and the Verizon/AT&T/T-mo websites have something else. Frequency check thinks that the SM-N930V (VZW phone) has bands 12 and 17 in it. VZW website has other info.
I believe that the VZW and AT&T websites are correct and Samsung builds the phones carrier specific; therefore they don't have to "lock" or "unlock" them because the LTE side of the phone won't work on another carrier anyway. the more expensive the phone gets the longer I keep it and if it is carrier specific, then the more airtime I buy from that carrier.
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Why dont you just buy the international model which is unlocked?
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1) I would buy a "US unlocked" version if there was such a thing. If anything goes wrong with the actual hardware in the first 6 months, no one wants to be responsible for an international version.
2) I would like to have both GSM and CDMA on same device. i don't want to use "phone", how much actual phone calling gets done on a Note 7? it's more of a data device than a phone. I'd trade unlim calls and unlim text down to 1.500 min and 1,200 texts for 5 more Gb of data. how about you?
Greenmule said:
1) I would buy a "US unlocked" version if there was such a thing. If anything goes wrong with the actual hardware in the first 6 months, no one wants to be responsible for an international version.
2) I would like to have both GSM and CDMA on same device. i don't want to use "phone", how much actual phone calling gets done on a Note 7? it's more of a data device than a phone. I'd trade unlim calls and unlim text down to 1.500 min and 1,200 texts for 5 more Gb of data. how about you?
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I got t-mobile so I have unlimited everything. Dual sim cause I got multi phone lines cause additional lines are so cheap (5 dollar). I dont and wont use CDMA ever so its useless to me. Most of the world I travel to has gsm anyway. For warranty sure that's bad just get square trade and you should be fine.
I have a PM edition that has been cross flashed to a ULM. Someone pointed out that the ULM version doesn't officially have certain US bands like 12, which are very important for T-mobile/AT&T here. But the original PM version does have those.
I went into the service menu (*#546368#*710#) and found the bands listed under the field test mode and went and disabled everything other than B12. At first there was no service, but after a quick toggle of airplane mode, I'm connected to Band 12 (according to signal spy at least). I even did a speed test to make sure it was sending / receiving data. I was previously connected to Band 2 before doing this.
I'm not sure what this proves- is B12 only available because my hardware is the PM version? Or are the bands controlled by software? I have to admit, the service menu seems to offer all the possible bands this SoC is capable of, including B71 . That's interesting because I thought B71 is only on the T-mobile version and not available on the ULM or PM versions. Does fiddling with the service menu essentially let you enable whatever band you want on any edition of this handset?
I have a real ULM and connect to LTE 12 without issue. IIRC, your PM crossflashed to ULM will work on all T-Mobile LTE bands except 71. If you feel like experimenting, there were rumors that AWM firmware may enable band 71 although I don't know recall anyone specifically testing it.
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I have a real ULM and connect to LTE 12 without issue. IIRC, your PM crossflashed to ULM will work on all T-Mobile LTE bands except 71. If you feel like experimenting, there were rumors that AWM firmware may enable band 71 although I don't know recall anyone specifically testing it.
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I'm thoroughly confused now, I swapped to another "ULM" (also crossflashed from Sprint- the first had a physical defect that I returned and swapped for another), and didn't do anything to the service menu and STILL connected to the same bands according to software reporting. Bands that according to online resources, the ULM isn't supposed to support. Yet it does, and you say your real ULM does too. So obviously the spec sheets online are wrong and I have no idea what bands any of these handsets actually support or if doing anything in the service menu makes any difference at all.
Someone said another edition of this handset (european maybe?) had his menu showing a different set of bands available to select than mine, so I wonder if this is controlled via the firmware or the hardware (NVRAM values or whatever?). The service menu appears to just serve as a way to isolate bands available to test if certain ones work where you are. And on my PM turned ULM, band 71 is listed. I don't have 71 around me so I have no idea if this is real or not.
Wish there was more (accurate) information about there about how this works.
I'm on T-Mobile and usually connect to LTE 2, 12 or 66. Of those I'd say most of time 66. I've never seen a connection to 71, which I always figured meant that its not supported by the phone. If you are interested in trying to get 71, flash AWM and see what happens.
So it follows the firmware or it follows the hardware (nvram values)?
ALL g7's other than the g7+ are capable of the same bands. They are software enabled or disabled or even hidden.
If you can access ##data# from dialer and input the msl code to get to band priority then you can connect whichever you want.
If not the secret menu is needed to access the ones you need.
If the firmware did not include the band in secret menu then it has been disabled. At that point you need to access via a nvdata application like cdma workshop to enable them forcefully, but it will clear out after each restart since cdma workshops adds the band temporarily.
Well why do the bands on ulm stop at 40
Dishe said:
I have a PM edition that has been cross flashed to a ULM. Someone pointed out that the ULM version doesn't officially have certain US bands like 12, which are very important for T-mobile/AT&T here. But the original PM version does have those.
I went into the service menu (*#546368#*710#) and found the bands listed under the field test mode and went and disabled everything other than B12. At first there was no service, but after a quick toggle of airplane mode, I'm connected to Band 12 (according to signal spy at least). I even did a speed test to make sure it was sending / receiving data. I was previously connected to Band 2 before doing this.
I'm not sure what this proves- is B12 only available because my hardware is the PM version? Or are the bands controlled by software? I have to admit, the service menu seems to offer all the possible bands this SoC is capable of, including B71 . That's interesting because I thought B71 is only on the T-mobile version and not available on the ULM or PM versions. Does fiddling with the service menu essentially let you enable whatever band you want on any edition of this handset?
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The ULM version definitely does have Band 12.
How do I know? I followed this guide: https://mt-tech.fi/en/how-to-get-4g-supported-ca-combinations-from-your-android-phone/#LG_devices
I extracted the qmdl log and followed the steps to extract the actual supported bands as well as carrier aggregation combos right from the actual modem logs (which are 100% accurate, since LTE devices need to report this to the network every time they connect to it)
LG G7 ThinQ (US) (G710ULM) | 4G/5G Bands & Combos
4G & 5G Bands, Carrier Aggregation and Dual Connectivity Combinations for LG G7 ThinQ (US) (G710ULM)
cacombos.com
Here it is for the LG G7 ULM. Not only does it support Band 12, it also gets Band 17 and a wide variety of CA combos in that band.
Hi,
I have problems finding "facts" about the G8 and the LTE bands different models support.
On some pages, like
https://www.getdroidtips.com/lg-g8-...lm-g820um-g820n-g820ua-g820v-g820tm-and-more/
they claim that if you go for the G820QM or G820QM7 you will have maximum coverage.
But either I'm doing things wrong , or , the truth is more complicated.
The bands I really NEED in Sweden are 3,7,8 & 20 , but since I travel a bit I would like as many bands as possible open.
My phone was from the beginning an AT&T bloatware LMG820UM (A9), but now I think it's more like a LMG820QM (A12).
(And unfortunately Band 8 doesn't work. )
Does anyone have a good link to a page that tells the truth or a good way to open up bands ?
Thanks!
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Hi,
I have problems finding "facts" about the G8 and the LTE bands different models support.
On some pages, like
https://www.getdroidtips.com/lg-g8-...lm-g820um-g820n-g820ua-g820v-g820tm-and-more/
they claim that if you go for the G820QM or G820QM7 you will have maximum coverage.
But either I'm doing things wrong , or , the truth is more complicated.
The bands I really NEED in Sweden are 3,7,8 & 20 , but since I travel a bit I would like as many bands as possible open.
My phone was from the beginning an AT&T bloatware LMG820UM (A9), but now I think it's more like a LMG820QM (A12).
(And unfortunately Band 8 doesn't work. )
Does anyone have a good link to a page that tells the truth or a good way to open up bands ?
Thanks!
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Probably the most trust worthy I've seen would be GsmAreana. If you follow this link it's for the G8, and it indicates the us Open version supports band 8.
'Open up bands'? Doesn't exist, to my knowledge. Some think the 'hidden system menu' has an option to 'select bands', but in my experience all that menu does is allow you to 'test' for certain bands, to see if they connect. It doesn't 'make it available', as some wish. For the most part, if it's not listed as being a band the rom supports, it's probably not going to connect to it.
LG G8 ThinQ - Full phone specifications
www.gsmarena.com
Now I have tried a few different "QM" versions on my phone (that once was an AT&T with "UM").
Right now I flashed it "T-mobile" with a pink start up-screen.
None of those crossflashed firmwares seem to make my phone to connect to LTE band 8.
(My old G7 connects to band8 very often, with good signal).
I'm starting to think that crossflashing doesn't change the frequency bands at all..
If I go in to the service menu, and ONLY pick band 8, it will connect and use only that.
If I select 3,7,8 & 20 it will never connect to 8.
I'm a bit lost with this.. I wonder if my phone still, deep inside, believes it is an UM and shouldn't use band 8.
Maybe time to Ebay it..
Lakritssmurfen said:
Now I have tried a few different "QM" versions on my phone (that once was an AT&T with "UM").
Right now I flashed it "T-mobile" with a pink start up-screen.
None of those crossflashed firmwares seem to make my phone to connect to LTE band 8.
(My old G7 connects to band8 very often, with good signal).
I'm starting to think that crossflashing doesn't change the frequency bands at all..
If I go in to the service menu, and ONLY pick band 8, it will connect and use only that.
If I select 3,7,8 & 20 it will never connect to 8.
I'm a bit lost with this.. I wonder if my phone still, deep inside, believes it is an UM and shouldn't use band 8.
Maybe time to Ebay it..
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So it does connect to 8? As you say. Well that means the other bands have a stronger signal, and that's why they are being chosen and not 8. Your other phone that gets 8 well, does it have the ability to connect to the other bands on other phone? Maybe that's why that one always chooses 8?
And yes, I guarantee you, a different rom will have different bands enabled. Just the way it is.
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So it does connect to 8? As you say. Well that means the other bands have a stronger signal, and that's why they are being chosen and not 8. Your other phone that gets 8 well, does it have the ability to connect to the other bands on other phone? Maybe that's why that one always chooses 8?
And yes, I guarantee you, a different rom will have different bands enabled. Just the way it is.
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Thanks for your reply.
Yes, my other phone, the LG G7, connects to all bands needed (3,7,8,20) when I travel to work without any problems.
I'll give the G8 some more tries.. but we don't understand each other
Lakritssmurfen said:
Thanks for your reply.
Yes, my other phone, the LG G7, connects to all bands needed (3,7,8,20) when I travel to work without any problems.
I'll give the G8 some more tries.. but we don't understand each other
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You can pull the carrier policy with QPST,and it will show you bands that are supported for the particular firmware you're using and find out.
Surgemanxx said:
You can pull the carrier policy with QPST,and it will show you bands that are supported for the particular firmware you're using and find out.
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Thank you for that suggestion! I didn't know, but now I will try to read out that "carrier policy" next time I have some "play"- time .
(Sorry about the very slow reply, I was on a vacation)
Thanks!