Modder Coming To Samsung From Nexus Environment, Comfused By Differences - Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I used to have a Nexus 7 (2012) and was rooted with TWRP and loved it. I was familier with fastboot, and liked how "open" everything was in the Nexus environment. But it cracked and I upgraded to the Tab S 16GB (Verizon). I wasen't about to hack my new $600 device, so I waited a while and have been out of the loop. Well I have been considering rooting it so I can install all apps fully to the SD card due to lack of space. And also maybe get a custom ROM based on android M.
It looks like Samsung devices don't have fastboot, and i stead have download mode, and ODIN. Are they the same thing? One time I got this tablet stuck in download mode, and it was really hard to get out.
Also, I don't see the stock ROM for the Verizon version online. I can only get it OTA. Is the ROM the same as the sprint version, just with different bloastware? Both are CDMA. I don't understand what carriers work with what ROMs.
Could you please get me back in the loop on the Samsung (non-Nexus) side? I will probably have a lot of basic questions at first.

Go to the developer section of this forum. We'll find rooting instructions, TWRP recovery and a working a working marshmallow aosp ROM that will make your S1 feel like a Nexus. Double check that others have had success with your model including LTE. Good luck.
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If you got the Verizon device, it is fully locked down and you cannot flash ANYTHING or root it at all.

Ditto on the above comment. The CDMA/cellular versions of the Tab S have the least amount of support. They don't have the same processor as the wifi versions (snapdragon in cellular, exynos in wifi).
I also have a Nexus 7 (2012) that's TWRP'd with a custom MM rom. I also TWRP'd and ROM'd a Nexus 4 and 7 (2013). Doing the same to a Samsung device is just as easy, except for KNOX (if you care about warranty).

You're only hope of root for that device is Kingroot.

Nandr0idC0nsumer said:
If you got the Verizon device, it is fully locked down and you cannot flash ANYTHING or root it at all.
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What makes you think that? In what way is it locked that the WiFi version isn't? I don't care about tripping Knox. I remember hearing when I was researching which one to buy that the AT&T version was locked, but the verizon one wasn't. Which is why I bought it. But maybe they meant the SIM was unlocked, not the boot loader. Are any of the T807's really unlocked.
HKSpeed said:
Ditto on the above comment. The CDMA/cellular versions of the Tab S have the least amount of support. They don't have the same processor as the wifi versions (snapdragon in cellular, exynos in wifi).
I also have a Nexus 7 (2012) that's TWRP'd with a custom MM rom. I also TWRP'd and ROM'd a Nexus 4 and 7 (2013). Doing the same to a Samsung device is just as easy, except for KNOX (if you care about warranty).
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Yeah, mine has the snapdragon 800, but I thought the AT&T version had the Exynos. I am doing more research and I see there is now an unlocked LTE model that even has native voice support (T805). Did this one come out later? I wanted an LTE one in 2014, but I thought you had to buy a T807 through either Verizon, AT&t, T-Mobile, or Sprint. So I got the Verizon one
ashyx said:
You're only hope of root for that device is Kingroot.
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From what I understand, KingRoot, uses an exploit in the stock ROM to obtain root without tripping KNOX, or custom recovery. Correct?
Thank you everyone!

flyoffacliff said:
What makes you think that? In what way is it locked that the WiFi version isn't? I don't care about tripping Knox. I remember hearing when I was researching which one to buy that the AT&T version was locked, but the verizon one wasn't. Which is why I bought it. But maybe they meant the SIM was unlocked, not the boot loader. Are any of the T807's really unlocked.
Yeah, mine has the snapdragon 800, but I thought the AT&T version had the Exynos. I am doing more research and I see there is now an unlocked LTE model that even has native voice support (T805). Did this one come out later? I wanted an LTE one in 2014, but I thought you had to buy a T807 through either Verizon, AT&t, T-Mobile, or Sprint. So I got the Verizon one
From what I understand, KingRoot, uses an exploit in the stock ROM to obtain root without tripping KNOX, or custom recovery. Correct?
Thank you everyone!
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If you're on Lollipop, it's unrootable. Verizon locks the bootloader

Nandr0idC0nsumer said:
If you're on Lollipop, it's unrootable. Verizon locks the bootloader
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So when you say "locked", you mean ODIN will refuse to flash an unofficial ROM? Wouldn't that mean it's impossible to trip Knox then?

flyoffacliff said:
So when you say "locked", you mean ODIN will refuse to flash an unofficial ROM? Wouldn't that mean it's impossible to trip Knox then?
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Correct. ODIN only allows stock, signed images to be flashed. Everything else will give a
Code:
secure check fail: recovery
or
Code:
secure check fail: kernel
and halt writing.
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Personally I recommend you
1) Get a Wifi-only model and suck it up, or
2) Live with a fully locked device and no root

Nandr0idC0nsumer said:
Correct. ODIN only allows stock, signed images to be flashed. Everything else will give a
Code:
secure check fail: recovery
or
Code:
secure check fail: kernel
and halt writing.
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Personally I recommend you
1) Get a Wifi-only model and suck it up, or
2) Live with a fully locked device and no root
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T805 LTE(International) , T807T and T807P are all bootloader unlocked. There is also a T807R4, but you don't hear much of this device, so not sure if it's locked or not.
I think the T805 is the only truly unlocked device with no carrier restrictions and can make and receive calls and texts.

ashyx said:
T805 LTE(International) , T807T and T807P are all bootloader unlocked. There is also a T807R4, but you don't here much of this device, so not sure if it's locked or not.
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Yes they are but he has Verizon so...

Nandr0idC0nsumer said:
Yes they are but he has Verizon so...
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I know that I was just providing information.

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[Q] Note 3 User - Moving to LG G3 - Please Help?

Dear LG Friends,
Long time XDA member, coming from the Windows Phone days HTC, then to Android HTC, bunch of Samsungs, and am now thinking about the LG space. More specifically moving from the Note 3 (T-Mobile US) running on the AT&T US, to the LG G3.
Before I do, I need some help from you guys. Which variant should I go for? I know my primary choices will be the T-Mobile and the AT&T variants (I believe they are 851 and 850)? Based on what's important to me, below, can you guys advise which variant to get?:
1. Development Support - Which variant has the MOST amount of Custom ROM options, that is on-going and kept current? I am spoiled with the Note 3, which has a massive development support. I have never tried the LG OS/Skin (escaping me what it's called), but if it's anything like the TouchWiz on Samsungs, I think it will be important to have CM/AOSP/AOKP and etc support.
2. This is related to # 1 - But I heard that only T-Mobile has the unlocked Bootloader? However, doing some research, I believe the AT&T and the Verizon and Sprint variants can also be unlocked? Is this true? If so, are they anymore limited than the factory unlocked T-Mobile variant?
3. LTE bands - I will most likely be using the phone on AT&T US, but if development options/support are higher on other variants, I might consider buying those models, even if they are missing some AT&T bands. For the Note 3 - T-Mobile is a Pentaband phone, meaning it had all the bands needed, so it could easily work on AT&T LTE, all the time. The reverse was not true.
And basically that is it. Initial instinct says to go chase the T-Mobile variant, based on my needs above. But please educate me and help me out if I have missed something. Thank you so much in advance!
Any input guys?
ProFragger said:
Any input guys?
1. Development Support - Which variant has the MOST amount of Custom ROM options, that is on-going and kept current? I am spoiled with the Note 3, which has a massive development support. I have never tried the LG OS/Skin (escaping me what it's called), but if it's anything like the TouchWiz on Samsungs, I think it will be important to have CM/AOSP/AOKP and etc support.
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If you want OTA updates i suggest sticking with the AT&T variant since you have a valid AT&T sim. If you use a AT&T sim in a T-Mobile variant you wont ever get OTA updates and that means missing out on necessary fixes
1. All 3 US Variants are mostly the same, all have CM12 and all the random obscure AOSP roms as well
2. Well unlocked bootloader isnt that fancy it just means theres fastboot mode compared with the other editions where fastboot mode doesnt work properly even if you enable it. It essentially just makes installing TWRP easier since you dont have to root before installing it unlike other variants
Nevertheless Lollipop can be rooted on all US Variants right now really easily. But the only downside to it is that removing custom roms sometimes can be a pain since you have to use a way where it sometimes works and sometimes doesnt
itsbighead said:
If you want OTA updates i suggest sticking with the AT&T variant since you have a valid AT&T sim. If you use a AT&T sim in a T-Mobile variant you wont ever get OTA updates
1. All 3 US Variants are mostly the same, all have CM12 and all the random obscure AOSP roms as well
2. Well unlocked bootloader isnt that fancy it just means theres fastboot mode compared with the other editions where fastboot mode doesnt work properly even if you enable it
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Hi Friend,
Thanks for your response, this is very helpful!
No OTA is never a thing I consider. Everything that matters to me, is what I listed already.
So, is the development support (new ROMs, updates and etc) the same for all US variants or would you say one variant is particularly more popular?
As for the locked bootloader, I thought you needed an Unlocked bootloader to flash Custom ROMs, no? It seems like "Bump" fixes this for Verizon, Sprint, and AT&T and gets you TWRP on your phone, but do we need to do extra steps everything to the boot.img for non T-Mobile variants? Or is it a one time mod and then regular flashing and Backups with TWRP?
If it's the same for all variants after Bump, then you're right, I will likely stay with an AT&T variant, thanks to that Band 7 LTE.
Thank you again for your help, hopefully more can chime in !
ProFragger said:
Hi Friend,
Thanks for your response, this is very helpful!
No OTA is never a thing I consider. Everything that matters to me, is what I listed already.
So, is the development support (new ROMs, updates and etc) the same for all US variants or would you say one variant is particularly more popular?
As for the locked bootloader, I thought you needed an Unlocked bootloader to flash Custom ROMs, no? It seems like "Bump" fixes this for Verizon, Sprint, and AT&T and gets you TWRP on your phone, but do we need to do extra steps everything to the boot.img for non T-Mobile variants? Or is it a one time mod and then regular flashing and Backups with TWRP?
If it's the same for all variants after Bump, then you're right, I will likely stay with an AT&T variant, thanks to that Band 7 LTE.
Thank you again for your help, hopefully more can chime in !
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No need for any steps. Its just install TWRP and your on your way to installing whatever rom you want
Unlocked bootloader means that the system doesnt security (consistency) checks on system partitions
For LG G3, its because someone cracked the encryption for the kitkat android bootloader which means people can sign non stock boot.img without having to worry about unlocking the bootloader.
itsbighead said:
No need for any steps. Its just install TWRP and your on your way to installing whatever rom you want
Unlocked bootloader means that the system doesnt security (consistency) checks on system partitions
For LG G3, its because someone cracked the encryption for the kitkat android bootloader which means people can sign non stock boot.img without having to worry about unlocking the bootloader.
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Gotcha, thanks again mate! Another (hopefully last) question. If I buy G3, where someone had already OTA'd to 5.0+, will I still be able to root it, install TWRP and get KK ROMs, like CM11 or something?
And vice versa, if the phone comes with KK, do I need to patch with Bump and then I can install ROMs?
Thank you again!
ProFragger said:
Gotcha, thanks again mate! Another (hopefully last) question. If I buy G3, where someone had already OTA'd to 5.0+, will I still be able to root it, install TWRP and get KK ROMs, like CM11 or something?
And vice versa, if the phone comes with KK, do I need to patch with Bump and then I can install ROMs?
Thank you again!
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You can root it but i dont know if installing TWRP will work. I didnt want to try it incase it doesnt work and it runs the factory reset script instead. That happened to me once before
But i would say just to be sure, downgrade back to KitKat to do it
Yeah, if the phone comes with KitKat just root, install TWRP using root permissions and then your on your way
itsbighead said:
You can root it but i dont know if installing TWRP will work. I didnt want to try it incase it doesnt work and it runs the factory reset script instead. That happened to me once before
But i would say just to be sure, downgrade back to KitKat to do it
Yeah, if the phone comes with KitKat just root, install TWRP using root permissions and then your on your way
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This is helpful, once again bud. So how would I downgrade back to KK? Would I have to run a stock firmware of some sort? In Samsung, he Flash a .Tar file through their flashing tool called the Odin. Would that be similarly done here?

[RESOLVED] Bootloader Status with SGH i747 LTE Latest Firmware

Hello,
I'm relarively new to the Galaxy S3 realm, and after a brief experience with a defective SGH T999 that I returned for a refund (which I'm pretty sure shipped with an unlocked bootloader out of the box since T-Mobile is usually good with doing that with their devices), I'm thinking of getting an SGH i747 new and networked unlocked on Amazon for use with T-Mobile since the SGH i747 is the least expensive S3 variant out there with LTE capabilities. I don't want to actually make the purchase until I know these two things:
1) Can the bootloader be unlocked on the latest official firmware (which I believe is 4.3 according to my research)? If so, how?
2) If I can unlock the bootloader on the latest official firmware, what ROMs will I be able to use? I read somewhere that using a ROM designed for an different stock firmware can lead to problems (like how 4.0 firmware users can't use 4.1 firmware ROMs)
I'm hoping I can get this since it has great features for the money, but if I can't install ROMs on it, I'm going to have to look for a different device to purchase.
Thanks ahead of time!
EDIT: I found an article stating there was an All In One toolkit that would root, bootloader unlock, and install recovery for US variant galaxy S3's, and it linked to me to an XDA thread. However, after reading the XDA thread, it seems that it is only able to unlock bootloaders of Nexus devices. Can anyone confirm for me that this all in one toolkit can unlock the bootloader for the latest firmware of the ATT S3?
Link to the toolkit thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746682
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jasonmerc said:
Hello,
I'm relarively new to the Galaxy S3 realm, and after a brief experience with a defective SGH T999 that I returned for a refund (which I'm pretty sure shipped with an unlocked bootloader out of the box since T-Mobile is usually good with doing that with their devices), I'm thinking of getting an SGH i747 new and networked unlocked on Amazon for use with T-Mobile since the SGH i747 is the least expensive S3 variant out there with LTE capabilities. I don't want to actually make the purchase until I know these two things:
1) Can the bootloader be unlocked on the latest official firmware (which I believe is 4.3 according to my research)? If so, how?
2) If I can unlock the bootloader on the latest official firmware, what ROMs will I be able to use? I read somewhere that using a ROM designed for an different stock firmware can lead to problems (like how 4.0 firmware users can't use 4.1 firmware ROMs)
I'm hoping I can get this since it has great features for the money, but if I can't install ROMs on it, I'm going to have to look for a different device to purchase.
Thanks ahead of time!
EDIT: I found an article stating there was an All In One toolkit that would root, bootloader unlock, and install recovery for US variant galaxy S3's, and it linked to me to an XDA thread. However, after reading the XDA thread, it seems that it is only able to unlock bootloaders of Nexus devices. Can anyone confirm for me that this all in one toolkit can unlock the bootloader for the latest firmware of the ATT S3?
Link to the toolkit thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746682
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all s3i747 should already be bootloader unlocked. i bricked my first one trying to "unlock" the bootloader.lol. kind of.
as far as firmware i am assuming you mean bootloader/modem. once you are on NE4 and above firmware , trying to downgrade ,i.e. mj2 firmware will give you a nice looking paper weight.
custom ROMs ; flash away (after making a backup of course). i have never seen a custom ROM include the bootloader/firmware. although you need to always read the OP to make sure it is compatible with whatever your current firmware is.,i.e.(again) if its a ROM for nj2 your ne4 firmware may need to be upgraded to match. @audit13 or @dawgdoc can confirm/deny/provide more info i am sure.
hope this helps at least some.
good luck.
"all i can really do is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
mrrocketdog said:
all s3i747 should already be bootloader unlocked. i bricked my first one trying to "unlock" the bootloader.lol. kind of.
as far as firmware i am assuming you mean bootloader/modem. once you are on NE4 and above firmware , trying to downgrade ,i.e. mj2 firmware will give you a nice looking paper weight.
custom ROMs ; flash away (after making a backup of course). i have never seen a custom ROM include the bootloader/firmware. although you need to always read the OP to make sure it is compatible with whatever your current firmware is.,i.e.(again) if its a ROM for nj2 your ne4 firmware may need to be upgraded to match. @audit13 or @dawgdoc can confirm/deny/provide more info i am sure.
hope this helps at least some.
good luck.
"all i can really do is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
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Are you SURE they are all unlocked out of box, regardless of firmware? I have seen guides as to how to unlock the bootloader for the i747 on 4.1.1 firmware, which would lead me to believe they aren't unlocked out of the box.
jasonmerc said:
Are you SURE they are all unlocked out of box, regardless of firmware? I have seen guides as to how to unlock the bootloader for the i747 on 4.1.1 firmware, which would lead me to believe they aren't unlocked out of the box.
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OK. if you've read different then no , i'm not SURE. but i thought they all were.
"all i can really do is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
mrrocketdog said:
OK. if you've read different then no , i'm not SURE. but i thought they all were.
"all i can really do is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
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Well too late now, already ordered one...
jasonmerc said:
Well too late now, already ordered one...
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well i'll tell you the honest truth. nevermind bootloaders and whatnot. i gave my S3 away to upgrade to the htcm8. to do all over ; i would have kept it or ordered one like you , or off swappa ,etc. i miss it.
good luck
"all i can really do is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
Looking in the all in one toolkit, it gives the user the option to root, busybox, and install custom recovery on a 4.3 ATT S3. From my knowledge, one needs an unlocked bootloader to install custom recoveries. Unless this is some sort of special recovery, it seems to me that this is in fact unlocked. Perhaps another user can confirm this.
thats why i mentioned audit13 and dawgdoc earlier. both more knowledgeable than me and i was hoping they would chyme in. or @DocHoliday77.
"all i can really do is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
The bootoader is not locked. If you try to unlock it using software tools, you will brick it. I have never come across anyone on xda with an att s3 with a locked bootoader but I have come across a few that bricked their phone trying to unlock the bootoader.
Although att often locks the bootoader on their phones (e.g. note 3, s4, lg g2), they did not do this on the sgh-i747.
Once the phone is running the mjb or higher bootoader, you cannot flash an older bootoader.
Alright, thanks to both of you guys for the assistance. Just let out a huge breath of relief, I was scared my money went to waste. Can't wait for this to come in, and I'm eager to be a part of the i747 community on XDA!
Plus I got the red one
If you decide to flash anything to the phone, make sure you verify the bootloader version before flashing anything.
When you receive the phone, boot into download mode to confirm the model # as well.
audit13 said:
If you decide to flash anything to the phone, make sure you verify the bootloader version before flashing anything.
When you receive the phone, boot into download mode to confirm the model # as well.
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Yes, I do recall reading something about only being able to flash ROMs made for the specific bootloader of the phone. But if I were to flash a ROM for d2lte (designed to work with ALL Galaxy S3 models), I would assume it would work alright regardless of bootloader version?
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For stock ROMs, only flash for the d2att. For custom ROMs, only flash ROMs for the d2lte.
So no CM9 then eh?
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So no CM9 then eh?
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Well, d2lte and d2att roms.
There are a few quirks about particular roms, do not hesitate to ask more questions as they arise. Sometimes you will contradicting answers, or typos causing incorrect answers.
Just an update, the S3 arrived. Looks beautiful physically.
But beyond that...
(I happycried for a good 3 minutes after seeing this)
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jasonmerc said:
Just an update, the S3 arrived. Looks beautiful physically.
But beyond that...
(I happycried for a good 3 minutes after seeing this)
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That's a nice state to receive an i747. Before doing any updates to bootloader and modem or flashing any ROMs I would suggest doing the free sim unlock found in the forums. (Yes, even though the bootloader is unlocked the sim card does not come unlocked out of the box.) If you upgrade to the 4.3 bootloader or newer you will no longer be able to do the free sim unlock. Although there are always paid unlocks.
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That's a nice state to receive an i747. Before doing any updates to bootloader and modem or flashing any ROMs I would suggest doing the free sim unlock found in the forums. (Yes, even though the bootloader is unlocked the sim card does not come unlocked out of the box.) If you upgrade to the 4.3 bootloader or newer you will no longer be able to do the free sim unlock. Although there are always paid unlocks.
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Already flashed a ROM. Despite the seller claiming it was unlocked out of the box, it was not. I'll be flashing back to 4.1.1 stock to do so.
EDIT: This is the firmware I'll be flashing, I assume it's correct
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2161667
man 'o man. 4.1.1. heck yeah !! happy for you (and envious). enjoy. :sly: @audit13 & @dawgdoc :thumbup:
(IF you were thinking about hitting the "thanks button" for this post ; please do not). this is for you guys. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
"all i can really do is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
As long as you didn't flash 4.3 or newer bootloaders you should be good.

AT&T Galaxy Note 4 N910A 5.1.1 Root for CM?

Hey,
Still a bit of a noob to the whole rooting process and navigating XDA forums, so I'm having trouble finding the information *I think* I should be looking for. Basically, my phone's just begun crashing periodically, multiple times a day: anything from Camera, Process System, Touchwiz Home Launcher, or Samsung Apps have "stopped working" / "not responding" before. Of course, my phone's warranty has expired, but my contract isn't up so an AT&T Store wont re-image it for me :crying:
Even I can tell, at this point, that it's either my OS that's failing, or it's my hardware. I figured the easiest way to test this would be to put some stable CyanogenMod on it.
The information I'm looking for is: "is this possible?"
AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4
SM N910A UCU2DOI2
Currently @ 5.1.1
Thanks for reading,
~Vita.
No it is NOT possible to use any form of custom firmware or to root this device. It has a locked bootloader that has yet to be cracked open and the future of that happening os very bleak to non existant.
As for reimaging the device go to the note 4 at&t general section on the forum and read up on using odin and the 5.1.1 image posted there it will wipe the phone and format yhe system and data partitions and reinstall it like a new phone just like at&t would do or the manufacturer if you sent it to them.
Good luck
Thanks for the response.
Sorry for the dumb question, but isn't Odin able to flash any firmware onto a device? The "locked bootloader" means that only the stock OS may be reinstalled? Why is this...
Also, it seems unlock progress is being made on the N910V. Maybe hope?
Thanks for mentioning Odin, I'll try re-imaging the phone.
~Vita.
Ricovita said:
Thanks for the response.
Sorry for the dumb question, but isn't Odin able to flash any firmware onto a device? The "locked bootloader" means that only the stock OS may be reinstalled? Why is this...
Also, it seems unlock progress is being made on the N910V. Maybe hope?
Thanks for mentioning Odin, I'll try re-imaging the phone.
~Vita.
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Well the problem is the kernel the bootloader prevents the devs from using an unsecure kernel (one not created and signed by at&t) on the phone if one is used the phone stops boot and says it is an unsecure non at&t kernel and to take thenphone to at&t store.
Odin can only write the firmware versiom that is currently on this phone in this case it is 5.1.1 if you flash any other note 4 versoin such as 4.2.2 it will brick.
Sm-910a flash example
Update ver Official at&t 5.1.1 / currently on phone 5.0.1 or 5.1.1 = good
Update ver (downgrade)oficcial at&t 4.2.2 / currently on phone 5.0.1 or 5.1.1 = brick not good or odin fail
Update from another carrier such as tmobile or verizon for 910t 910v 910g = fail (do not attempt)
Until oir boot loader is unlocked there is nothing we can do to mod or use custom firmware on this phone any attempt leads to a brick requiring using odin to re-flash the latest firmware (5.1.1 at this time) in order to make the phone functional again.
giga8547 said:
Until oir boot loader is unlocked there is nothing we can do to mod or use custom firmware on this phone any attempt leads to a brick requiring using odin to re-flash the latest firmware (5.1.1 at this time) in order to make the phone functional again.
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So from what I understand, I could use Odin to flash the 4 files which correspond to the specific AT&T 5.1.1 SM-901A version of my phone (which is exactly what I have) to re-image the device and make it functional again. The problem is, I cannot find these devices on sammobile D:
Could someone direct me to these files? Or are they not out because AT&T sucks? Or, what.
~Vita.
Ricovita said:
So from what I understand, I could use Odin to flash the 4 files which correspond to the specific AT&T 5.1.1 SM-901A version of my phone (which is exactly what I have) to re-image the device and make it functional again. The problem is, I cannot find these devices on sammobile D:
Could someone direct me to these files? Or are they not out because AT&T sucks? Or, what.
~Vita.
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Look in odin files in progress thread.
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Is it possible to downdraft from 5.1.1 to 5.0.1
firebird7880 said:
Is it possible to downdraft from 5.1.1 to 5.0.1
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I think so, I don't know for sure but we've been able to Odin from various 5.0 Lollipop releases back to KitKat so should be fine.
downgrading from 5.1.1 or 5.0.1 to kitkat is possible but with many many problem but form 5.1.1 to 5.0.1 i don't know maybe phone will stuck or boot loop
thanks finitetime for your reply
other question are there any news about root for 5.1.1 n910a
help
my att note 4 is unlocked and it still won't let me install custom rom's
mouseman1 said:
my att note 4 is unlocked and it still won't let me install custom rom's
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I am sure that you are referring to a sim unlock. A sim unlock and unlocked bootloader are two completely different entities. To flash a custom rom you will need to have your bootloader unlocked, which is something that a few of us are currently working on. Until then, no custom roms can be flashed on the att variant Note 4s. Take care
the boot loader says Qualcom secure boot : disabled ?
in the boot loader screen ?
mouseman1 said:
my att note 4 is unlocked and it still won't let me install custom rom's
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Your phone is SIM UNLOCKED which has NOTHING to do with root, bootloader, or custom roms.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk
mouseman1 said:
the boot loader says Qualcom secure boot : disabled ?
in the boot loader screen ?
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Sorry, was off the forum for the weekend. Spexwood was correct, that is sim unlock. Qualcom is for the sim IE network. Take care.
Root is possible btw
Root is possible if youre willing to dedicate 10-30 hours of repititive root fails
How?
Press Buttons said:
Root is possible if youre willing to dedicate 10-30 hours of repititive root fails
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How is root possible? What's the process ?

Install stock SM-N910W8 on SM-910V

Hi, just bought an unlocked Note 4 from USA, it's the Verizon version.
I looked on your forum to find an answer, but I can't.
I'm from Canada, and I'd like to install a stock rom of the canadian version (n910w8), to have less Verizon/Amazon bloatware, and the french language available.
Considering that the N910W8 phone is pretty identical(from what I can see..), same CPU, would I brick my phone from installing this very rom "N910W8VLU1BOE2_N910W8OYA1BOE2_N910W8VLU1BOE2_HOME.tar.md5"?
And if so, why? And what are my alternatives?
see rooting and now you can unlock bootloader too first head to this post
then after that whatever your stock rom you can uninstall the blotware
here are another post for the blot which is safe to remove
and you can use that thing
I am using Indian sim and it is working great
'and you can use that thing'
That thing? The .md5 i mentionned?
When you boot the phone it says 'custom' and has a lock/unlock symbol?
You purchased it unlocked?
Futtermax said:
When you boot the phone it says 'custom' and has a lock/unlock symbol?
You purchased it unlocked?
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I purchased it unlocked, but it has a Verizon logo whenever I boot it. So, would I be able to install the n910w8 without any trouble? Or is there a way to "install it" and during the process if it is not compatible it will tell it to me?
xDanny1992x said:
I purchased it unlocked, but it has a Verizon logo whenever I boot it. So, would I be able to install the n910w8 without any trouble? Or is there a way to "install it" and during the process if it is not compatible it will tell it to me?
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He's trying to make sure that "unlocked" means that your bootloader is unlocked. It's a critical point, especially if your "unlocked" is referring to being open to all carriers.
If your bootloader is unlocked, you'll see an open padlock on the first boot screen. If the bootloader isn't unlocked, you won't be able to flash any ROMs until you unlock it.
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He's trying to make sure that "unlocked" means that your bootloader is unlocked. It's a critical point, especially if your "unlocked" is referring to being open to all carriers.
If your bootloader is unlocked, you'll see an open padlock on the first boot screen. If the bootloader isn't unlocked, you won't be able to flash any ROMs until you unlock it.
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Now, after a few more research I understand what you guys were trying to make me understand haha
I'm unlocking my bootloader, but my main topic question remain unanswered.
Will my phone be able to take the n910w8 rom even if I have a n910v? (once my bootloader will be unlocked and everything..)
xDanny1992x said:
Now, after a few more research I understand what you guys were trying to make me understand haha
I'm unlocking my bootloader, but my main topic question remain unanswered.
Will my phone be able to take the n910w8 rom even if I have a n910v? (once my bootloader will be unlocked and everything..)
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The ROM, maybe. Will it work? Not without some serious help.
Since the Verizon variant of this phone isn't getting much developer love... it was locked until recently and true Developer Editions were rare and in smartphone terms, it's old... people are looking at the Snapdragon development.
The biggest headache will be getting the phone and data to work. The W8 is a GSM phone while Verizon uses CDMA.
douger1957 said:
The ROM, maybe. Will it work? Not without some serious help.
Since the Verizon variant of this phone isn't getting much developer love... it was locked until recently and true Developer Editions were rare and in smartphone terms, it's old... people are looking at the Snapdragon development.
The biggest headache will be getting the phone and data to work. The W8 is a GSM phone while Verizon uses CDMA.
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Ok, I guess I could say I'm a superhero, my name, SuperStupid -_-
I finally got the padlock logo, rooted my phone, installed TWRP, tried to flash n910w8 rom, it didnt work, so I told myself, why not wipe everything, so I did.
Now I have a phone without OS, but! I kept the padlock and TWRP...
A new successful achievment for SuperStupid...
I'm currently downloading (with my superFast 1mb/s connection) the full firmware of N910V, which I didnt think prior to wipe everything, to keep a copy...
And I hope that I'll only have to put the file on my SD card, and then flash it...
I'll stay with my Verizon bloatware, as soon as I get it back, I won't try again soon to do this ****!!!
xDanny1992x said:
Ok, I guess I could say I'm a superhero, my name, SuperStupid -_-
I finally got the padlock logo, rooted my phone, installed TWRP, tried to flash n910w8 rom, it didnt work, so I told myself, why not wipe everything, so I did.
Now I have a phone without OS, but! I kept the padlock and TWRP...
A new successful achievment for SuperStupid...
I'm currently downloading (with my superFast 1mb/s connection) the full firmware of N910V, which I didnt think prior to wipe everything, to keep a copy...
And I hope that I'll only have to put the file on my SD card, and then flash it...
I'll stay with my Verizon bloatware, as soon as I get it back, I won't try again soon to do this ****!!!
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You'll have to root again, ya know...
I have a Verizon Note 4 arriving today for use in Canada. The seller indicated that it is unlocked which I'm sure refers to the carrier and not the bootloader.
I've owned the Notes 1,2 and 3 and my most stable and satisfying experience was with the 3, not because it was the latest and greatest but because it was the only one I did not root and play around with. I'm getting older and I'm starting to value stability over features. I actually like stock touchwizz and enjoy the built in productivity of the spen. Carrier bloatware really is a minor inconvenience for me.
I've enjoyed the Note line but the Note 4 will be my last as the SD card and removable battery are very important to me. As long as this Verizon Note 4 gives me LTE coverage in the Greater Toronto area (which my research indicates it will) I'll keep it stock. A bonus would be if it shows up with Android 5.1.1 or is upgradeable via OTA or Kies. I don't really see any North American varient receiving Marshmallow and certainly not this Verizon one.
Can you flash N910W8 firmware/rom onto a N910V?
xDanny1992x said:
Hi, just bought an unlocked Note 4 from USA, it's the Verizon version.
I looked on your forum to find an answer, but I can't.
I'm from Canada, and I'd like to install a stock rom of the canadian version (n910w8), to have less Verizon/Amazon bloatware, and the french language available.
Considering that the N910W8 phone is pretty identical(from what I can see..), same CPU, would I brick my phone from installing this very rom "N910W8VLU1BOE2_N910W8OYA1BOE2_N910W8VLU1BOE2_HOME.tar.md5"?
And if so, why? And what are my alternatives?
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Same here with a N910V wanting to know if N910W8 can flash ok to it. (but already unlocked mine with custom N910V roms on it) Been running LineageOS roms OK for a while but just too many bugs for something dependable.
Runs nice until you really need it not freezing on you lol.
Did try a custom W8 rom that was only flashable after installing TWRPCAN 3.0.2 in place of TWRP 3.2.3 and it did startup but phone ran really hot and broken WiFi so ended up going back.

Just bought a phone. The model #'s are different, and it appears to be rooted.

Just bought a note 4 off the net. It is in excellent condition and is running on 5.0.1. The model #is sm-n910v, verizon. I have not yet put the sim in it- waiting on an adapter because the sim is a nano. I wanted to root it and unlock the bootloader to upgrade the ROM. While researching a procedure for this I have installed Phone Info☆Samsung☆ app and eMMc Brick Bug. In the Info app the device type is (trltvzw). In the Brick Bug app it is (trltexx). Curious. I installed RootChecker and it says the phone is rooted. Don't know what trltexx is. Should I try to unlock the bootloader or has that been done already too. Don't know what to do. I want to put a custom ROM in.
Trltexx is the international version. Trltevzw is the Verizon Variant. I rooted my note 4, but i just got a note 8. I'm new to all of this but i believe that with those not matching you will have trouble provisioning that phone on the Verizon network . Maybe someone who knows more will chime in.
Get the Samsung info app in the play store and post a screen shot if your able.
wookiefinger said:
Just bought a note 4 off the net. It is in excellent condition and is running on 5.0.1. The model #is sm-n910v, verizon. I have not yet put the sim in it- waiting on an adapter because the sim is a nano. I wanted to root it and unlock the bootloader to upgrade the ROM. While researching a procedure for this I have installed Phone Info☆Samsung☆ app and eMMc Brick Bug. In the Info app the device type is (trltvzw). In the Brick Bug app it is (trltexx). Curious. I installed RootChecker and it says the phone is rooted. Don't know what trltexx is. Should I try to unlock the bootloader or has that been done already too. Don't know what to do. I want to put a custom ROM in.
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ok so your on a really old bootloader and trltexx is just the international models id and thats ok if your rooted its most likely with supersu so try installing it launching it should try to update its binary. I dont know anything about that bootloader though man all the development centers around 5.1.1 (bpa1) which is depreciated current development is 6.0.1 so .....not sure what good root does you at 5.0.1 . You will have to unlock at 5.1.1 and then again at 6.0.1 to keep it so root isnt relevant making my supersu suggestion kind of dumb . Sorry about that
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stevehb7note said:
Trltexx is the international version. Trltevzw is the Verizon Variant. I rooted my note 4, but i just got a note 8. I'm new to all of this but i believe that with those not matching you will have trouble provisioning that phone on the Verizon network . Maybe someone who knows more will chime in.
Get the Samsung info app in the play store and post a screen shot if your able.
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Hes not on that varient the stupid root checker ap[ just thinks so ....it did it to me too
Okay, with the help of this forum what I did was wipe and install 5.1.1. Temp root (Kingoroot), unlock bootloader. Install TWRP and flash 5.1.1 with 6.0.1 bootchain. Temp root same as before and unlock again. Re-install TWRP and flashed MODEST ROM with new partial firmware. It is working great. Thanks everybody, this forum is awesome and loaded with good information. Cheers!

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