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So the rumor is no SD card slot on this baby? I'm wondering how much it will matter? I am not too worried about room. I will just buy the biggest one available in terms of internal storage and be covered there. I'm more worried about development. I have rooted and installed custom Roms on my current Samsung Continuum, thanks to the good folks on this forum, and every method involves flashing the rom from the SD card. How will this be different without one? Is installing custom roms/themes, etc more difficult? I've never owned a Nexus S or any other phone that didn't have the SD card, so I am not sure how that works. T
Its not a rumor. And flashing from internal memory should not be a problem.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
pukemon said:
Its not a rumor. And flashing from internal memory should not be a problem.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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Yeah they do it from the touchpad for cyanogen.
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It matters to some people. Doesn't matter to me. Never filled up my 16gb. NAND memory is way faster than sd cards.
It won't matter to flashing roms.
It will shipped partitioned like the Nexus S. Nexus S has no issues with it at all.
The internal memory is partitioned I have the nexus s on the box it says 16gb( I know with all my hard drives on all OS that you never get full capacity)
They partition it off and whats left over is then made to look like the SD card for android's storage purposes. You will not miss a thing when it comes to flashing roms and such, since the storage part still mounts the same way.
I rarely need the storage but those one the fence dontgforget about google music(and other services) that will backup your music to teh marvelous cloud and let you stream and even download for offline play to your phone
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I rarely need the storage but those one the fence dontgforget about google music(and other services) that will backup your music to teh marvelous cloud and let you stream and even download for offline play to your phone
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That's exactly the error i made when purchased the old Nexus S
I was also a PRO preacher of cloud storage (combined i have aprox 70+ GB of free cloud storage among different services), until reality hit me in the back
all those space was useless the moment you lose reception with 3G or WiFi
basically if you are in a subway, or your work place is several walls away, don't expect to get a new batch of streaming music or whatever important file you needed to pull from the cloud.
the 14 GB space you get in the phone is no where near enough for anything, after install apps, and few good games, and couple of nandroid backups.
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the 14 GB space you get in the phone is no where near enough for anything, after install apps, and few good games, and couple of nandroid backups.
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The sgs2 has 11.5gb free space so im sure the gs will have the same, and your right this isn't enough especially with backups.
There will be a 32GB model, so there shouldn't be an issue.
I was really looking forward to this phone but the lack of sd card support just ruined it for me. It's not just the principle of it (charge 50-100 bucks more for a bigger ram chip that cost maybe $5) but I for one take advantage of having a swappable sd card.
It can especially come in handy on a phone that is soft-bricked.
I'm OK without one. I had two different SDcards from different manufacturers fail on me, causing me to loose my files.
I have not run into that issue using the internal memory in my phone.
My tablet does not have an SDcard, so I've adjusted quite well without one.
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I don't understand why people say having no sdcard is a deal breaker. It's the same damn thing. Big deal you can't swap out cards, all you have to do is mount usb mass storage then ZOMG you can change your data. People will complain about anything no matter what device comes out.
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I don't understand why people say having no sdcard is a deal breaker. It's the same damn thing. Big deal you can't swap out cards, all you have to do is mount usb mass storage then ZOMG you can change your data. People will complain about anything no matter what device comes out.
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I agree. I think it may still sell well without one. The iPhone doesn't have one, and they sell that phone by the millions.
As long as I can use a file manager, store any type of file type on it, and install custom ROMs if i so choose, then I'm good.
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i can understand how it can be a deal breaker. people who flash daily would rather use an expendable sd card whose write cycles are limited. and some people do have to move data frequently but i'm sure those have figured out how to do it wirelessly. and then you have your secret agents where being discrete with the passing of information is crucial. kinda serious with that. and then you have the peeps who just have to have their entire collection of music on them because the phones these days do more than double duty. i need to go through my phone again, but right now i'm using about 16gigs of data. approximately 10 gigs is music. then some books. a couple of backups. sync'ed data. maybe 1 gig of pictures. and videos can require lots of data and having a 32gig or 64gig sd can be a tremendous help.
why no Micro SD?
yeah, I'm sure other have posted this, so what. anyway, why would they not put one in to the Nexus phones? removable memory is an excellent feature to have, and can't be that expensive to add a reader if EVERY phone but the iPhone and Nexus has them. it's a total dealbreaker for me and many others.
the real problem is, if Google just made a little more effort to make the Nexus phones competitive by giving it this basic feature, more people would get them, and then there would be more pressure for OEMs to stop filling phones with bloat and their crappy unstable hacks (Sense, touchwiz etc.) that are dragging Google's platform down with fragmentation.
This question has been asked many times and I guess we'll never know for sure but it is Google who's ideology is to keep people online as much as they can. It makes sense to limit local storage and push people towards using cloud storage, particularly with the launch of Google Music where you can store all your music with Google anyway (which would free up a lot of space). Its a great idea, too bad 90% of us have capped data plans and streaming is not possible (unless carriers make it unmetered)
Keep in mind. We have a 32gb model available. With everything going to the cloud, I know that I rely much less on physical storage. Especially with Google Music. (I keep about 1k of my 4.5k songs locally on my phone)
The only thing I would need storage for would be apps, pictures, and a few movies. More than enough.
May be they rely on the USB Host mass storage feature.
developer.android.com/guide/topics/usb/index.html
Hopefully, the Galaxy Nexus will support the USB devices listed on this page:
developer.android.com/reference/android/hardware/usb/UsbConstants.html
I think it has to do with memory speed and performance. Removable memory is great, but personally in a smartphone I don't see the need. Once I activate a phone I never remove the SD card. If I need to xfer a bunch of files to or from my PC, I'll hook it up via USB.
How many of you remove your card on a regular basis to put in a different device? I guess its those people that would benefit from a removable card.
The rest of us should be happy with the extra speed and performance from using onboard memory.
Oh and 32gb is the limit on the microSD cards anyway so I don't see the problem of "limited" space on one's device.
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I'm annoyed there isnt any microSD slot! But I have been surviving with an 8gb microsd for years now and only use 2-3gb max..so I'll survive without it I guess.
Good thing is that the built in storage will be much quicker to save on!
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I'm annoyed there isnt any microSD slot! But I have been surviving with an 8gb microsd for years now and only use 2-3gb max..so I'll survive without it I guess.
Good thing is that the built in storage will be much quicker to save on!
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Same here, my 8GB microSD has 2-3GB free and a fair chunk of it is for backups from messing with ROMS and Titanium backups, in addition to the usual app data, music, photos and videos.
Given it looks like for some odd reason we may only be getting the 16GB version in the UK, I think I'll be fine with the 16GB version.
Like the title says, I'm curious to see how many people actually wanted this function. I was a bit disappointed when I heard about the lack of removable memory, but I lust after this phone. I do have a 16GB card that's near capacity. I haven't cleaned it out in a while, so I'll do that first. Hopefully 16GB will be enough for me. But I digress, this isn't a rant about how the Galaxy Nexus doesn't have removable memory. This thread is more about seeing the percentage of people who did want this function.
I did want it, just like I wanted it on the NS. But I understand that I don't NEED removable storage and will be buying the GN the first chance I get. And given the choice, I'll probably go with a 16GB version, because I still have about 4GB of free space on my NS.
I really wanted an sdcard slot on it. I will have to import the phone as the 32GB versions as there seems to be no current plans to sell that version in Sweden according to Samsung themselves. 32GB is minimum for me. I had hoped to be able to get a 32 GB version and then plug in my 32 GB microsd for even more storage.
Wanted it, but mostly because i got a 32GB MicroSD card already
All of my storage is wasted on nandroids anyway.
The lack of the card slot (which even my Nexus One has) is a real shame - it would only have cost a few pence to include a card slot unless there is something I have missed. The slot would have been preferred to the barometer by the vast majority of people - if we had to choose one or the other.
If they were releasing the 32GB in the UK i wouldn't have wanted an SD slot as that would be enough for me. But as we're only getting the 16GB for whatever reason i would want an SD.
As they're not doing either i'll have to stay with my GS2.
i know i'm having issues with my card slot and/or SD card on my Fascinate. It'll say my SD card is ejected when it's not. I'm starting to think the omission of a card slot isn't so bad.. less moving parts = less things to break? lol
Not too bothered about it at all, never take my card out of the current phone.
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less moving parts = less things to break
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Exactly!
I was a little upset about no SD at first, but then realized that I haven't taken the card out of my N1 since I first got the phone and used it to transfer stuff to the new phone...easy enough to do with a USB and 5 minutes.
Only thing that bums me out is I basically can't get the 16GB because if I run out of space I'm hosed.
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Only thing that bums me out is I basically can't get the 16GB because if I run out of space I'm hosed.
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Use the cloud... everyones doing it heh.
Besides stuff that needs to be on the phone, almost everything (music, docs, photos) are in the cloud for me.
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Exactly!
I was a little upset about no SD at first, but then realized that I haven't taken the card out of my N1 since I first got the phone and used it to transfer stuff to the new phone...easy enough to do with a USB and 5 minutes.
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You are totally missing the point of the sdcard slot. The biggest advantage is being able to upgrade the amount of storage if you need it. The fact that it costs next to nothing now makes it even better. Also, a less used upside is the ability to read it even if your phone stops turning on at all.
To me, the best solution would be to have lots of internal storage but still have the option of an sdcard for extra storage for movies, lossless audio and other big files if the user wanted. I would be totally fine with it being used entirely for user storage. Any form of cache files that are currently stored on the sdcard probably belongs on the internal memory.
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You are totally missing the point of the sdcard slot. The biggest advantage is being able to upgrade the amount of storage if you need it. The fact that it costs next to nothing now makes it even better. Also, a less used upside is the ability to read it even if your phone stops turning on at all.
To me, the best solution would be to have lots of internal storage but still have the option of an sdcard for extra storage for movies, lossless audio and other big files if the user wanted. I would be totally fine with it being used entirely for user storage. Any form of cache files that are currently stored on the sdcard probably belongs on the internal memory.
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Well you got a small screen so movies shouldnt be large in size and phones probably aren't the best devices to playback lossless audio to make a difference audibly.
I'm pro SD card though but really you just slap a large one in there and forget about it. I do use it as a quick medium to transfer custom roms and kernels to my buddies... pictures to my gf... etc. Seemed transfers were faster directly using the SD card vs going through the phone... but with the cloud and wireless transfer methods, its a mute point.
Most stuff can be in the cloud such as pictures and music and even nandroid backups (only need a few locally). I keep games/apps/wallpapers locally but those could even go to the cloud. As long as I can download them when I need them. And you don't need to have a whole movie collection on you at all times. Just a few throwbacks for travels.
My collection spans since my nexus one and its maybe 4-5gb minus music
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
i got a good collection of 32GB that i parked since i got stuck with Nexus S, i was really hoping GN would have the SD slot
and just purchased a 64GB microSD, with no where to use it on the GN
what am I going to do with my class 10 MicroSD?
I did want it. But I guess its cool that they're selling a 32gb version, just hope it's not an outrageous price. But I've never modded a phone without removable storage before. Either way, I'm buying on launch day.ill be importing from the UK since T-Mobile hasn't said a peep about it and I don't feel like waiting another month or two or three
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still hope
Ummm my xoom has usb host with honeycomb , I'm guessing its in ics as well?.. just POP that micro sd into a usb adapter when needed if true
i dont care about SD suport.
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Ummm my xoom has usb host with honeycomb , I'm guessing its in ics as well?.. just POP that micro sd into a usb adapter when needed if true
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USB host in ICS is confirmed by google and many review on the net
After 10+ years with Sprint, I'm thinking about jumping ship to Straight Talk and dumping my Epic 4G Touch (Galaxy SII) for a Galaxy Nexus when my contract expires. I have a 32GB Class 10 card almost filled up with tunes, pictures, and a few ROMs and backups. The 64GB cards are coming down in price and I was thinking about getting one.
However, I see that the Nexus doesn't have a card slot. How are you guys coping with the lack of extra storage? Obviously you are, but it seems like a big step down for me to lose that capability. There must be enough positives about this phone to overcome the lack of a card slot. I'd like to hear what they are.
My Sprint contract doesn't run out for a few months, so I have time to explore other options. Maybe there will even be a new Nexus with a card slot by then.
I, personally, have the TORO.
32 gig.
But only have half of it filled anyway.
I stream my music...
And have multiple nandroids on my phone (that I really don't need more than one of).
It hasn't bugged me at all.
i dont mind it at all. i dont have to worry about moving apps to the SD card to get space on the phone partition. it works out better i think
It is probably a bigger deal to someone looking to get a 64GB card to go down to 16GB but it isn't the worst. I stream videos from my computer using apps and stream my music with Spotify and after those two large space takers are out of the way 16 GB is pretty big haha
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It was a big deal to me at first. I have found other ways to cope. Putting important photo albums on Picasa helped a lot, as does Google Music.
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The only reason is for flashing new roms, but I think that doesn't flash certain directories, like the sdcard directory, so would that be the same, to store stuff there?
I do sort of miss it. I miss that fact that i could just pop in my sd card into my laptop and drag a ROM to flash if i couldnt get my epic to boot. It definetly came usefull when i had to test my themes... when one wouldnt work i could find the fix just load it on the sd card and try that. However i think with the nexus.. booting into the bootloader you can just adb push things right? Anyways, i put all the music i had in my music folder which is about 2.3gigs on Google Music.. stream that when i want to. Use cloud storage for most my other things such as .apk's ive themed and tools for apk themeing . But for the most part ive only filled about 2 gigs so far... on the sprint 32gb. I guess it all depends on preference and circumstances. But im sure you could find an alternative for storage.
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It is probably a bigger deal to someone looking to get a 64GB card to go down to 16GB but it isn't the worst. I stream videos from my computer using apps and stream my music with Spotify and after those two large space takers are out of the way 16 GB is pretty big haha
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What he said.
Streaming music/video + having google drive/picasa makes me only use the storage for some photos anyway.
My old phone, Defy+, had about 8GB so the Nexus is an improvement.
However I select my music I carry with me and I don't even watch videos. If I had 64GB or more I would put alot more music onto it, but I don't miss it. Just nice to have, but there is no point of "oh gawd, what should I delete...".
OTG + USB-Stick is also an option, if you want to watch a movie at a friends house or something.
I do miss it a little...
I do think it's interesting that The phone manufacturers seems to be pushing us to use the cloud more, resulting in more bandwidth being used, and the carriers are pushing people off of unlimited data plans unto tiered plans... Something has to give...
I miss it because I like having all manner of videos, music, etc on tap for entertainment. I've learned to deal with it by streaming music and uploading videos and pictures rather than storing them all on the card.
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OTG + USB-Stick is also an option, if you want to watch a movie at a friends house or something.
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Thanks for that! USB OTG doesn't work on my E4GT, but I see that there are Nexus kernels with it working. Guess I can carry a cable and a card reader for whenever I need to access the extra storage.
Not really. I have about 5GB of music, and then I stream from YouTube and Netflix for all my video needs. I have about a 1GB of various game ROMs, and I still have about 7GB free.
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my photos--on picasa
my music--on google music
my videos--on phone
my personal data--on clouds
the only problem is that i play a lot with phone,and after installing 3\4 hd games,my storage is always full..apart that,i don't need extra space,but the lack of not have a microsd i miss a bit.not for only storage,but for the of change the sd from my phone,and put it on my tablet.with gnex i can't.i usually use airdroid to transfer from pc,but i miss a wireless method to do that from tablet to phone (fon't know if there are others methods...)and with an microsd it'll become more friendly to do..
miss a bit an scard slot (i have the 16gb version,in my country gnex 32gb it doesn't exist.if i have a 32 gb version,i don't think i've miss the microsd.
I'd just gotten mine and the lack of micro sd isn't a deal breaker, plus like some said you could get an otg cable and flash drive. Personally i got this as my keychain, it's gotten expendable memory and has both a regular and micro usb side to it a bit pricey though.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-b...s_Adapters&hash=item2570b1850e#ht_2522wt_1035
I thought I would miss it, but I've gotten over it.
Its taught me to be a bit more selective on the crap I hoard. Can't be a bad thing really. Has made me realize, after being selective, all my HTC desire had on it was junk and I can easily cope with 16GB
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I would love a case, which connects with the USB-port and has a microSD-slot inside.
However I think that the case won't be that slim then
Do you miss having a microSD card?
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not really, for larger data (video or other) a take a usb stick and my otg-Adapter
I actually like the fact that there's no SD card. Coming from an EVO, it was a pain to move apps to SD. Here, everything is in one place and it just works. With Picasa a, Google Music and Google Drive, I have plenty!
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I know Apps2SD application doesnt support our phone but is there really no other way aside from rooting?
Why did Samsung even removed this function. Is it Samsung's intention?
I have 64GB Micro SD and I cant even maximize its use. I only got about 3GB left in my phone storage.
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I know Apps2SD application doesnt support our phone but is there really no other way aside from rooting?
Why did Samsung even removed this function. Is it Samsung's intention?
I have 64GB Micro SD and I cant even maximize its use. I only got about 3GB left in my phone storage.
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I hadn't owened my Note II more than 10 days before I ran out of memory! I finally had a phone capable of playing graphic intense games only to find that I would have to delete one to install another. Madness. I have heard people mention that it has to do with multi-user security but I don't buy that. My complaints, assumptions and opinions seem to have fallen onto deaf ears. Few seem to care surprisingly. They probably use their phone to call people
I have suggested in other post that we start a campaign to force Samsung/Google to change this but like I said. Few seem to care.
What worries me most is that this may scare off game developers. Something that will seriously harm android.
I have a theory that Google have a console in the making and are worried that it's sales will suffer if powerful pkones like ours are upgraded in two years and then used as consoles and media devices in the games room.
There was an article that was posted a while back stating why this was done, and while I can't find the exact article at the moment if memory serves correctly it basically it had to do with the user becoming confused with how the phone would handle storage.
For example, there was a time when you'd have let's say 8 GB of storage being marketed, with 2 GB of it being partitioned for apps and the rest partitioned for user data (pictures, videos, music, and so forth). However, this divide in the way that storage space was handled wasn't really unveiled to the user unless they knew where to look, so many people would wind up quickly filling the 2 GB of storage that was designated specifically for apps and then wonder why the heck they were out of space.
So with newer devices (I believe this started with the Galaxy Nexus?), the partitioning scheme allows for apps to use the entire available memory space (that hasn't been claimed by the system or what not, for example a 16 GB device will usually have ~10.5-12 GB of usable space that the user can access). However, devices such as the Galaxy S III and the Note II map the internal memory as if it were an SD card (hence why it's mounted at /sdcard, and the external SD card is now at /extSDcard).
There are solutions that you can use, for example Directory Bind is one of them (search for it on the forums), however it does require root. I really don't think there are any other ways around this at the moment for those who are running stock & unrooted.
Hmm. I'm not really familiar with rooting. I haven't done it before. I think I can follow procedures as I used to do that on my BB long time before I moved to android.
Are there any drawbacks in rooting? I read one time that S-pen functionality will be gone?
S-pen will still work, along with wi-fi calling snd everything else. The only functionality you lose is OTA (over-the-air) updates.
You should check out the "How to root T889 +Counter reset +Unroot+ Stock firmware" thread on the forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1955423
I successfully rooted my phone. You can still use the stock rom if you're hesitant about custom ones.
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I'm finally getting to the point where I'm tired of not having root and might bite the bullet and spend the couple hundred to early upgrade to another device and I'm kinda out of the loop on what's what now. Maybe you guys have some input? I used to only use the upper-end Samsung phones, but since I'm on Verizon now it's not looking so good (at least with the Note 4). What top-end phone is out there for Verizon that can be rooted and has an external card slot?
Can't speak to if it can be rooted or not but this is what I am going with.
I went with the Nexus 5x. Good price, quick updates, unlocked bootloader, compatible with every US carrier, and more available pocket space. It's a step down in some aspects, but as a hypochondriac, I really shouldn't have access to a pulse oximeter in the first place lol.
well not willing to spend $500+ for a Verizon bloat boat phone, I'm looking at the nexus 5x, nexus 6p, Moto x pure and OnePlus2. All of them will settle my flashing addiction. 6P is a little pricey so I may go with one plus 2. $389 for 64GB version. The only beef I have is it isnt AMOLED.
Ive been looking at getting a nexus 6p, because i really like the screen size of my note 4. Sucks it cannot accept sd cards, and the battery cannot be removed, but with an option of 128mb built in, and how well the internal battery performs on it, it throws those issues out the window for me.
Looks like the Nexus 6P in 128gb would be the most interesting out of those mentioned. It just sucks that with the improvement of the technology, there has to be compromise. Maybe the external memory option is getting dropped because it's getting unused from all the online/cloud services now? I just can't imagine not having ample storage space for NAND backups, app backups, alternate ROMs, etc... And then moving things back and forth to memory. Sure wireless ac is nice, but what about some damn USB 3.0? *sigh*
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Looks like the Nexus 6P in 128gb would be the most interesting out of those mentioned. It just sucks that with the improvement of the technology, there has to be compromise. Maybe the external memory option is getting dropped because it's getting unused from all the online/cloud services now? I just can't imagine not having ample storage space for NAND backups, app backups, alternate ROMs, etc... And then moving things back and forth to memory. Sure wireless ac is nice, but what about some damn USB 3.0? *sigh*
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Well I think a big reason is for the deletion of microSD is room in the phone. They strive for thinner phones with more features. With the online\ cloud space really why do you need a micro sd? You can store the important things on the internal memory and things you don't need to access all the time on the cloud. SD cards are only another thing to go wrong with the phone.
Check out the Elephone phone. It has a SDcard slot. Down side is it has a MediaTek CPU which may hinder custom ROMs.
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Well I think a big reason is for the deletion of microSD is room in the phone. They strive for thinner phones with more features. With the online\ cloud space really why do you need a micro sd? You can store the important things on the internal memory and things you don't need to access all the time on the cloud. SD cards are only another thing to go wrong with the phone.
Check out the Elephone phone. It has a SDcard slot. Down side is it has a MediaTek CPU which may hinder custom ROMs.
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I agree, it is another thing that can go wrong with the phone, and I've had plenty of issues with them. It might just be more of an issue of want versus need and what I'm comfortable with. My downtime isn't always places with a good connection to the internet, so the storage space is a lifesaver. I do have one of those thumb drives that has a micro usb port on it, so that might just live in my pocket or something instead.
moto x pure is pretty sweet. keeping my note as a backup though.
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I just ordered a 6P. I'll be keeping this as a backup for sure. I really love this hardware, but I'm getting tired of the issues 5.0.1 carries.
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