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So, title self explain. I have G3 and want to ask to someone who made the upgrade from G3 to G4. Is the battery about the same as G3 or is better?
i had G3 and recently i bought G4 not much difference but lets say the G4 win with alittle bit but from my opinion i didnt see abig difference
advice :Stay away from G4--- this device has too many hardware issues
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So, title self explain. I have G3 and want to ask to someone who made the upgrade from G3 to G4. Is the battery about the same as G3 or is better?
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Tell us how much sot/run time you get from the G3 ?
and which variant is it ? 2GB or 3GB RAM.
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dork997 said:
advice :Stay away from G4--- this device has too many hardware issues
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Advice based on WHAT ?
your experience of the G4 for a grand total of 2 days
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Advice based on WHAT ?
your experience of the G4 for a grand total of 2 days
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Don't feed the troll :good:
i was planning to buy the G4, so i looked at some reviews. GSMArena said that the battery life on the G4 is a downgrade from the G3.
The Endurance rating worked out to 54 hours, 9 hours less than the G3. The issue was with the high standby power draw, which puts a strain on the battery even when you're not using the phone. The other disappointment was the talk time, which couldn't reach 17 hours - an 8 hour drop from the G3.
We reran the tests several times and kept getting the same results.
Anyway, the web browsing time was pretty good - nothing spectacular, but good. It also marks the only improvement since the G3 as the video playback is below average for the flagship class.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g4-review-1254p3.php
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i was planning to buy the G4, so i looked at some reviews. GSMArena said that the battery life on the G4 is a downgrade from the G3.
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Watch this
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMFjo9qWAng
That is a 'real life' review. Not some synthetic test.
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Watch this
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMFjo9qWAng
That is a 'real life' review. Not some synthetic test.
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ok. where does it make a direct comparison to the G3. the video is kind of hard to follow. Unless he has both phones in the same video and do a same battery test, you can't really compare the g4 to g3 with this video. the OP just has to decide which source he deems more reliable.
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ok. where does it make a direct comparison to the G3. the video is kind of hard to follow. Unless he has both phones in the same video and do a same battery test, you can't really compare the g4 to g3 with this video. the OP just has to decide which source he deems more reliable.
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yes because this is a difficult subject so keep a note when he talks of the sot's under different conditions.
Had to watch it a couple of times but i got it in the end. See the comments too.
What is your expectation of sot/runtime ? How much do you get with your curent device ? what is your current device.
There is no difference between G3 and G4 for battery life max i can get 4 and half hours for battery life and minimum only almost 3 hours SOT. Maybe if next LG device is like this battery life i need to change to another brand
Yeah my experience in two days....Touchscreen issues untill i updated to V10C which fixes the touchscreen issue but decreases battery life to the extent where u can literally notice it drop before your eyes. The power saving used to work fine before v10c now even tho i turn it on immediately it wont kick in untill battery reaches 15% ( u will know when its on because the statusbar will change its color to red)...... And yes the back buttons are loose and feel wobbly. There is a pink shade in my front camera when there is sunlight in the background....ummm what else......i am damn sure even the cheap chinese phones coming out will be better than this piece of junk. I shud never have bought it
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Yeah my experience in two days....
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How long have you had the G4 ?
Touchscreen issues untill i updated to V10C which fixes the touchscreen issue but decreases battery life to the extent where u can literally notice it drop before your eyes. The power saving used to work fine before v10c now even tho i turn it on immediately it wont kick in untill battery reaches 15% ( u will know when its on because the statusbar will change its color to red)......
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Really ? how many people are affected ? just one i saw in this thread. So the update did not cause battery problems. v10c is for euro h815.
How much sot & runtime did you get before the update ?
How much sot & runtime did you get after the update ?
figures.
And yes the back buttons are loose and feel wobbly.
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Go to the service centre and replace them.
There is a pink shade in my front camera when there is sunlight in the background....
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ummm what else......i am damn sure even the cheap chinese phones coming out will be better than this piece of junk. I shud never have bought it
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lol, i can find this kind of comment for any phone on this board
many times its because people are interested in some other phone that came out after.
Dont expect anything crash hot from the battery performance. It is nothing like what i expected. If you want good battery life go with samsung s6 or even better the sony xperia phones. Xperia has best battery life. So G4 wont do you any good with battery life
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Dont expect anything crash hot from the battery performance. It is nothing like what i expected.
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heh we're still trying to get you to tell us what your issue is. Any wants to follow the fun discussion see here.
If you want good battery life go with samsung s6 or even better the sony xperia phones. Xperia has best battery life.
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Those phones have other issues. So you trade one set of pros for another set of cons
There is no perfect device. You learn to manage what you got.
So G4 wont do you any good with battery life
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3h sot, lots of complaining, 4h+Sot less complaining or it goes silent. Seen this a few times now. That is what surprised me. Until you realise that people find 8h run time too short but once it gets into 12-14h+ its ok. Its the standby time that is more important.
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Don't feed the troll :good:
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The motives are interesting. want to know what dork is upto, he just smashed his phone :silly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/help-urgent-t3224403
a firmware downgrade gone wrong and no service centre available.
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What is your expectation of sot/runtime ? How much do you get with your curent device ? what is your current device.
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I currently have the nexus 4 and i think the most screen on-time i can get before my phone dies is 3 hours, but usually it's in the low to mid 2 hour range before i have to run to the charger. But the phone never last more than like 12 hour of usage (or a 8 hour workshift+ work traffic) as i constantly surf the web, music, and always checking my phone.
I want something like xperia z3 compact or note 4 battery life, but those phones have some things i don't really like. With the G4, i do plan on buying those high capacity battery (like mugen, hyperion, etc..) if the phone does fall below my expectation.
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I currently have the nexus 4 and i think the most screen on-time i can get before my phone dies is 3 hours, but usually it's in the low to mid 2 hour range. But the phone never last more than like 12 hour of usage (or a 8 hour workshift+ work traffic) as i constantly surf the web, music, and always checking my phone.
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Mostly wifi ? or is there also same amount of data ? how strong or not that cell data signal is and for how long you are on it will take a toll with any phone.
I want something like xperia z3 compact or note 4 battery life, but those phones have some things i don't really like. With the G4, i do plan on buying those high capacity battery (like mugen, hyperion, etc..) if the phone does fall below my expectation.
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How bright do you like your screen. if you can manage with less brightness ie 30-50% you can add an hour of sot.
for reference, 3-4h SOT on data and 4-5h sot on wifi only with 65-70 brightness. mixed use means somewhere in between, 4h sot. high brightness means low to mid 3h, less brightness 4-5h.
sot/run times you can expect 3h /9h, 4h/12h, 5h/14+h is normal with stock.
Are these figures you can live with ? xperias & note 4 will give you an extra hour sot on top. that extra hour means 2-4h longer run time.
you dont need to carry those bulky batteries unless your phone absolutely needs to be on, just swap the battery out in a couple of minutes.. Not hot swap, have to power down.
How important is bootloader unlock and roms for you ? some people are forced to stick with original and forego firmware updates to preserve bootloader unlock. this means if any improvements are made in subsequent updates they can't use them and are stuck with whatever bugs are there in the older firmware. Stuck with bugs and waiting for roms can be frustrating.
For some one used to nexus 4 being able to flash anything and everything, G4 might seem a bit boring for you, Nexus 5x ? you dont care for replaceable battery or sd card. just get the biggest onboard memory possible
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Mostly wifi ? or is there also same amount of data ? how strong or not that cell data signal is and for how long you are on it will take a toll with any phone.
How bright do you like your screen. if you can manage with less brightness ie 30-50% you can add an hour of sot.
for reference, 3-4h SOT on data and 4-5h sot on wifi only with 65-70 brightness. mixed use means somewhere in between, 4h sot. high brightness means low to mid 3h, less brightness 4-5h.
sot/run times you can expect 3h /9h, 4h/12h, 5h/14+h is normal with stock.
Are these figures you can live with ? xperias & note 4 will give you an extra hour sot on top.
you dont need to carry those bulky batteries unless your phone absolutely needs to be on, just swap the battery out in a couple of minutes.. Not hot swap, have to power down.
How important is bootloader unlock and roms for you ? some people are forced to stick with original and forego firmware updates to preserve bootloader unlock. this means if any improvements are made in subsequent updates they can't use them and are stuck with whatever bugs are there in the older firmware. Stuck with bugs and waiting for roms can be frustrating.
For some one used to nexus 4 being able to flash anything and everything, G4 might seem a bit boring for you, Nexus 5x ? you dont care for replaceable battery or sd card. just get the biggest onboard memory possible
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Yep all wifi, don't have a data plan . wifi signal varies to maximum signal to no signal at all lol. But i do turn on airplane mode when i'm on the train for example. My brightness is set to adaptive brightnes on @ 50%ish
I'm actually avoiding the nexus line in the future lol since i really want sd card slot and removable battery (and good/excellent battery life), usb OTG (particularly usb audio out), and a device that can officially unlock bootloader like the g4 H815. and to be honest, stock android ui is sometimes boring and it never has features u see on like xperia, htc, or samsung devices. And I can just do all my flashing needs on my Nexus 4 when the habit kicks in lol. Overall, on my next phone, i just want options and upgrade/replacement possibility
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Yep all wifi, don't have a data plan . wifi signal varies to maximum signal to no signal at all lol. But i do turn on airplane mode when i'm on the train for example. My brightness is set to adaptive brightnes on @ 50%ish
I'm actually avoiding the nexus line in the future lol since i really want sd card slot and removable battery (and good/excellent battery life), usb OTG (particularly usb audio out), and a device that can officially unlock bootloader like the g4 H815. and to be honest, stock android ui is sometimes boring and it never has features u see on like xperia, htc, or samsung devices. And I can just do all my flashing needs on my Nexus 4 when the habit kicks in lol. Overall, on my next phone, i just want options and upgrade/replacement possibility
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Then you can expect a 4-5h sot/12-14h run time with normal use. Good enough ?
web browsing won't eat up much battery, its push notifications and constant syncs over weak signal that do it faster.
IMO the g3 was garbage...i had 2 that had emmc failures and all 3 i had overheating issues...battery sucked...only pro was there was a good bit of development...i love my g4...only device i miss over my g4 is my g2...battery life is great with minimal tweaks and greenify...my last run was 5 h 2m sot and 47.5 standby...h81110n
Been using this phone for over a month now and always has bad battery life as compared to what others are getting.. about 4 hours sot with over 20 hours on battery and it used to reach 10% battery level ?.. yeah it's bad... So I unlocked, rooted and installed greenify and amplify and amplify showed the cause... Take a look at this.. so the only way to fix this is to flash a custom stock based ROM right ?
I'm worried about that rijl wake lock.. radio issues ? I always keep my phone on 2g to get even batter battery life but sad situation for me here folks
thinking 4-5 is bad because you got 10 once. Hm...
I don't think anyone has been able to get 10 hours screen on time on a single charge on any phone.......
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I don't think anyone has been able to get 10 hours screen on time on a single charge on any phone.......
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Sure! Easy, just depends on what you do...
Just remove all the Google Apps, especially Google Now. It's wakelocking the phone like crazy, because it's recording your location for example.
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Sure! Easy, just depends on what you do...
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I don't think anyone has been able to get 10 hours screen on time on a single charge on any phone.......
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thinking 4-5 is bad because you got 10 once. Hm...
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oh man i am so sorry the way i framed my sentence.. i meant 10% battery life lol my apologies. and when i mean others, they usually get 5h sot or more
RILJ is caused by Google Play Services, not by OP3 itself.
Get rid off GApps or just deal with it.
Just wanted to start a central thread for people to share SoT's and other battery-life-related info for the new OOS 5 build, and the other Oreo builds that may eventually follow, OnePlus willing.
I'm just waiting to see how battery life turns out, and how stable the build is, before upgrading. I figured many others would be too, so any of you brave first responders who want to fill us in would be very appreciated!
Useful info to include:
*Screen-on time (ideally with a screenshot of app usage)
*Average standby drain per hour
*Rough difference between standby drain when on WiFi/LTE (signal quality is the biggest decider here, so if you have an idea how good of a signal you may have been getting, please include that too)
Thanks to anyone who takes the time to let us know! (Remember to click the thanks button for those who help us out!)
So far so good. Pretty much the same as nougat.
i lost 40 % in around 1 hour SOT. that's very bad...
Very good, better than nougat
Hi, maybe a survey can be usefull ? Like "better than nougat" or not
After selecting location mode to GPS only, my idle drain with Oreo open beta is really low. I usually have 80% battery left when I go to bed. The other day I somehow disabled wifi and still had 80% left, so cellular battery usage is minimal.
Way better battery life than nougat.
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Way better battery life than nougat.
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But How? I get half from Nougat usage. in Nougat I got nearly 5 hrs SOT but same usage in Oreo gets like 3.5 hrs SOT.
Well look like I'm not only one https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/cell-standby-battery-usage-after-oreo-update.685408/page-2
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But How? I get half from Nougat usage. in Nougat I got nearly 5 hrs SOT but same usage in Oreo gets like 3.5 hrs SOT.
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Dont know. I am using FreedomOS with bluspark kernel, clean flashed. Awesome battery life out of the box
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Dont know. I am using FreedomOS with bluspark kernel, clean flashed. Awesome battery life out of the box
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Can you tell me which Blue_Spark kernel you tried?
They haven't released for OOS 5.0 yet right?
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Can you tell me which Blue_Spark kernel you tried?
They haven't released for OOS 5.0 yet right?
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Latest (206 i think). But i am using latest open beta anyway. But should be pretty much the same as OOS5.
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Hi, maybe a survey can be usefull ? Like "better than nougat" or not
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Great idea, thank you!
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Way better battery life than nougat.
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6h SoT is great! What was your standby time? Apologies if it says, I'm terrible with other languages.
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Great idea, thank you!
6h SoT is great! What was your standby time? Apologies if it says, I'm terrible with other languages.
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I dont remember sry. Can tell when battery gets low again next time
Pretty bad ,hope they fix this
I'm facing a alot of wakelocks can anyone please suggest any solutions? Screenshot attached.
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I'm facing a alot of wakelocks can anyone please suggest any solutions? Screenshot attached.
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There isn't a lot you can do about google play services and android system wakelocks, that's just Google spying on you and selling information about you. Limiting those almost always breaks something, they build their internal services confusingly on purpose because spying on you and selling that information is their core business model. You just have to do trial and error and see what works in your use case.
So I bought this phon about 3 weeks ago.
One of the primary reasons was the battery life since I'm not usually near a power supply.
But I've been struggling to get past 5 hours of screen on time on light to medium use.
Standby time is great though. No battery drain, but the moment I start using it, it starts tanking and like 1% every 3mins or so. I struggle to get a full day of use.
I'm running the May uodate, I updated while it was new so I don't know the performance before the update.
I've already reset once and wiped cache. Even in safe mode battery is still weak.
I need help fixing this.
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Is your mobile signal good? I assumed you use mobile data not wifi
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Is your mobile signal good? I assumed you use mobile data not wifi
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It's decent 3G. Usually 3 bars when I'm at home, 4G at work but I use wi-fi there.
I wake up around 5am and by the time I leave at around 7 I'll be at around 80%. After just reading articles and scheming through social media
Right now I've been browsing Reddit and Tapatalk for the past 30mins and I'm already down 7% brightness is at minimum and I'm on 3G
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I have still 75% after 6 hours and downloading 10 updates, taking some pictures and chatting
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I have still 75% after 6 hours and downloading 10 updates, taking some pictures and chatting
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66% some web browsing and texting for around 3hrs
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I have now after 9 hours where I played the last 2,5 hours music and now 55%. Screen on time is 2 hours
yes battery life is not good for 4000 mah .for exemple redmi note 7 with same 4000 mah get way more battery life than a50 . for me i get 7 to 8 hours sot mixed wifi and 3g in one day ( 18 hours to be exact) .it drain 10 % in 9 hours when screen off .samsung need to improve battery life in future updates
Here's a quick tip
Samsung devices tend to drain a lot of battery because of app background usage
try to put apps to sleep ( apps that you need them only when you open them)
Also activate medium power saving if you need more battery
With normal use am getting around 9-10 and sometimes 11 SOT
With games and heavy use i get 6-7 SOT
all of this without any power saving option .
I debloted and now getting almost 9 hours of sot on normal usage on 4g always and dual sim on.. I mainly use for watching videos on youtube. Chatting telegram and whatsapp and calls 1 hour per day
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jijoejoe123 said:
I debloted and now getting almost 9 hours of sot on normal usage on 4g always and dual sim on.. I mainly use for watching videos on youtube. Chatting telegram and whatsapp and calls 1 hour per day
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Which packages did you disable on debloat
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Which packages did you disable on debloat
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There is a deblot list here in the forum.. Check that post...
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Which packages did you disable on debloat
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much worse battery drain when the phone go to sleep on the new indian update debloated .
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much worse battery drain when the phone go to sleep on the new indian update debloated .
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use naptime.. I am not facing any drain
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use naptime.. I am not facing any drain
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on what updated you are ?
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on what updated you are ?
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Latest July patch
jijoejoe123 said:
I debloted and now getting almost 9 hours of sot on normal usage on 4g always and dual sim on.. I mainly use for watching videos on youtube. Chatting telegram and whatsapp and calls 1 hour per day
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How was the battery life before debloat. My phone didn't come with that much bloatware. It's not the Indian version and still on May update and there's virtually no stand by drain. Battery is significantly worse when using 3G
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66% some web browsing and texting for around 3hrs
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Battery drainage issue for the last july update pls solve and fixin next update
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How was the battery life before debloat. My phone didn't come with that much bloatware. It's not the Indian version and still on May update and there's virtually no stand by drain. Battery is significantly worse when using 3G
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After deblot i have seen battery backup increased.. I also use grenify and naptime..
after july update phone drains much more battery
My Mate 20 X AL00 updated successfully to EMUI 11 (close to 3 GB) and the initial impressions are good.
November 2020 security patch.
New animation for charging, icons, windows closing-opening, etc.
UI is smoother and fluidic than previous.
Loud Speaker output almost similar to Stock EMUI 9
Battery backup similar to previous.
Petal Search is awesome.
MeeTime
Will post more after using for few days.
Cheers!
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My Mate 20 X AL00 updated successfully to EMUI 11 (close to 3 GB) and the initial impressions are good.
November 2020 security patch.
New animation for charging, icons, windows closing-opening, etc.
UI is smoother and fluidic than previous.
Loud Speaker output almost similar to Stock EMUI 9
Battery backup similar to previous.
Petal Search is awesome.
MeeTime
Will post more after using for few days.
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Did anyone else get this update? Cannot find it through VPN :/ Also are you still forced to use stock launcher ?
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Did anyone else get this update? Cannot find it through VPN :/ Also are you still forced to use stock launcher ?
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Yes I am using stock launcher and I am happy with it.
Yep I got it on my AL00 using it in US on T-Mobile and ATT but was on my home wifi used Support app to do update. Still no way to set 3rd party launchers as default.
hey guys, received the update notification for 11.0.0.125 yesterday here in Singapore. Sporting a chinese EVR-AL00 8/256 GB model and was on EMUI 10.1.0.167 previously. Here the details:
So far so good, some of the settings are re-arranged and look different, new animations and vibration patterns, Security Patch got updated, as well as the Kernel version (didnt check previous Baseband but im assuming that got also updated). Lets see how battery life is!
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hey guys, received the update notification for 11.0.0.125 yesterday here in Singapore. Sporting a chinese EVR-AL00 8/256 GB model and was on EMUI 10.1.0.167 previously. Here the details:
So far so good, some of the settings are re-arranged and look different, new animations and vibration patterns, Security Patch got updated, as well as the Kernel version (didnt check previous Baseband but im assuming that got also updated). Lets see how battery life is!
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Hows the battery life on it so far?
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Hows the battery life on it so far?
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pretty sweet, averaging 17h15m SOT as per AccuBattery can highly recommend using DuckDuckGo browser and Hibernator Pro to save on data and energy consumption!
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pretty sweet, averaging 17h15m SOT as per AccuBattery can highly recommend using DuckDuckGo browser and Hibernator Pro to save on data and energy consumption!
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Hi jbmc,
No offense but I cannot believe you get 17 hours SOT. Not calling you a liar. Probably accubattery is not reading your phone correctly.
I have the L29 from singapore - although I live in USA with both singapore and USA sim cards. Do you know when my phone will get the 11 update?
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Hi jbmc,
No offense but I cannot believe you get 17 hours SOT. Not calling you a liar. Probably accubattery is not reading your phone correctly.
I have the L29 from singapore - although I live in USA with both singapore and USA sim cards. Do you know when my phone will get the 11 update?
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haha i get it, I also had to check my actual usage and the screen active time shown in the settings under battery, it actually pans out! after roughly 8.5 hours SOT i was at around 50% battery left.
as for the EMUI 11 rollout, really no idea my friend. it seems the timings of the regional specific rollouts are all over the place. only thing i can say is that it will surely come in general tho, chinese models usually get served first before the international counterparts-
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haha i get it, I also had to check my actual usage and the screen active time shown in the settings under battery, it actually pans out! after roughly 8.5 hours SOT
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Exactly. No one gets past 10 -12 hours SOT on the 20x. Cheers
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Exactly. No one gets past 10 -12 hours SOT on the 20x. Cheers
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read again, it checks out
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read again, it checks out
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The hell are you talking about
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The hell are you talking about
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dunno what to tell u man *lol*
but im serious, ive always been one to optimize the heck out of the system to maximize SOT
i.e. settings permissions for ALL apps depending on how i use them, restricting background data as much as possible, using wifi wherever available, tuning in min usable screen brightness, setting battery optimization for all apps, switching off all sensors whenever i dont actively use them (i.e. NFC, BT, GPS, etc.), using apps like Hibernator Pro or Greenify to hibernate all unused apps, using privacy focused browser like DuckDuckGo to save on unnecessary data, using 3G instead of 4G/LTE to minimize energy consumption....
every little bit helps and then u end up with awesome SOT
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dunno what to tell u man *lol*
but im serious, ive always been one to optimize the heck out of the system to maximize SOT
i.e. settings permissions for ALL apps depending on how i use them, restricting background data as much as possible, using wifi wherever available, tuning in min usable screen brightness, setting battery optimization for all apps, switching off all sensors whenever i dont actively use them (i.e. NFC, BT, GPS, etc.), using apps like Hibernator Pro or Greenify to hibernate all unused apps, using privacy focused browser like DuckDuckGo to save on unnecessary data, using 3G instead of 4G/LTE to minimize energy consumption....
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Ok youre confusing because before you agreed with me that it was not possible to get sot of 17 hours on android 11. Now youre saying it is possible but only by turning off unneeded background data, wifi, apps etc., not through android 11 alone. You also didnt confirm that you had android 11 installed.
Even if you took all of the steps you mentioned you cannot go from 8 - 9 SOT and double it to 17. Thats impossible.
Deanro said:
Ok youre confusing because before you agreed with me that it was not possible to get sot of 17 hours on android 11. Now youre saying it is possible but only by turning off unneeded background data, wifi, apps etc., not through android 11 alone. You also didnt confirm that you had android 11 installed.
Even if you took all of the steps you mentioned you cannot go from 8 - 9 SOT and double it to 17. Thats impossible.
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ah no, u misunderstood mate, i was agreeing with you that it initially seemed too good to be true, but after checking SOT via different sources i was able to confirm those runtimes
I have EMUI 11 / Android 10 installed, Android 11 is not available on the Mate 20 series.
I was never down to 8-9 hours SOT to begin with...unless maybe at max screen brightness and using Maps with High perf. GPS on 4G mobile data all day long haha.
Before on EMUI 10.1 with Greenify and CM Browser I was at around 12-14h SOT, now im more in the range of 16-18h on EMUI 11 with Hibernator Pro and DuckDuckGo Browser.
Hope that clears things up!
jbmc83 said:
ah no, u misunderstood mate, i was agreeing with you that it initially seemed too good to be true, but after checking SOT via different sources i was able to confirm those runtimes
I have EMUI 11 / Android 10 installed, Android 11 is not available on the Mate 20 series.
I was never down to 8-9 hours SOT to begin with...unless maybe at max screen brightness and using Maps with High perf. GPS on 4G mobile data all day long haha.
Before on EMUI 10.1 with Greenify and CM Browser I was at around 12-14h SOT, now im more in the range of 16-18h on EMUI 11 with Hibernator Pro and DuckDuckGo Browser.
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Hi there,
I have android 10/emui 10.1 on my mate 20x. But you say you have emui 11 but that android 11 isnt available for the mate series. I think you made a typo.
You said you had greenify on 10.1. But how can that be if you cant root the 20x on that version?
With hibernator pro what apps and system services did you freeze? I will do the same with mine.
Its just not possible to get double the SOT on the 20x when max SOT is 10 hours. Hope youre not trolling. Something isnt right here.
Deanro said:
Hi there,
I have android 10/emui 10.1 on my mate 20x. But you say you have emui 11 but that android 11 isnt available for the mate series. I think you made a typo.
You said you had greenify on 10.1. But how can that be if you cant root the 20x on that version?
With hibernator pro what apps and system services did you freeze? I will do the same with mine.
Its just not possible to get double the SOT on the 20x when max SOT is 10 hours. Hope youre not trolling. Something isnt right here.
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Not a typo. EMUI is NOT equal to Android. EMUI 11 for the Mate 20 series is based on Android 10, NOT 11.
You can use Greenify in non-root mode, no problem.
I can provide a list of apps and services on freeze for Hibernator Pro, just give me a bit of time.
Not trolling. Who says max SOT is 10 hours? my current values are in the range of 14-18 hours depending on usage and averaging roughly 15-16.
Edit: I attached a screenshot of Battery usage for the past 7 days as shown in Accubattery. At 5.4%/h for screen on, you would get a total of 100/5.4 = 18.5h of SOT. But of course, that is only if you use a whole battery charge with screen on. So you need to add in the energy consumption during screen off: 300% screen on + 45% screen off = 345 % total.
55h55m total SOT divided by 345% = 16.2h SOT per 100% charge on average.
Btw, when I compare the SOT times measured in Accubattery with the values shown under settings / Battery, they check out, both show the same values (at worst only a few minutes apart).
Also attached preference files for Hibernator Pro, hope this helps!
jbmc83 said:
Not a typo. EMUI is NOT equal to Android. EMUI 11 for the Mate 20 series is based on Android 10, NOT 11.
Not trolling. Who says max SOT is 10 hours? my current values are in the range of 14-18 hours depending on usage and averaging roughly 15-16.
Edit: I attached a screenshot of Battery usage for the past 7 days as shown in Accubattery. At 5.4%/h for screen on, you would get a total of 100/5.4 = 18.5h of SOT. But of course, that is only if you use a whole battery charge with screen on. So you need to add in the energy consumption during screen off: 300% screen on + 45% screen off = 345 % total.
55h55m total SOT divided by 345% = 16.2h SOT per 100% charge on average.
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Hi there,
I dont know if you have emui 11 so I cant confirm if you do or not. If you do indeed have emui 11 theres no way in hell huawei figured out how to double SOT on it since they werent able to before in 10.
Average SOT on 20x is 9 - 11 hours. Not double that. I've been reading this forum on the 20x for a year. I've never come across anyone claiming SOT greater than 12 hours. Never.
Is it possible to install your prefs into my Hibernator Pro?
If Hibernator Pro does that same job as greenify why use greenify at all? Which apps did you freeze in greenify?
Deanro said:
Hi there,
I dont know if you have emui 11 so I cant confirm if you do or not. If you do indeed have emui 11 theres no way in hell huawei figured out how to double SOT on it since they werent able to before in 10.
Average SOT on 20x is 9 - 11 hours. Not double that. I've been reading this forum on the 20x for a year. I've never come across anyone claiming SOT greater than 12 hours. Never.
Is it possible to install your prefs into my Hibernator Pro?
If Hibernator Pro does that same job as greenify why use greenify at all? Which apps did you freeze in greenify?
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yes i have EMUI 11 installed. never said they "doubled" SOT. as mentioned before, on EMUI 10.1 i was at roughly 12-14h SOT, now its about 2-4h more depending on usage. thats not double
tbh, i never fell down to 9-11h SOT unless in crazy circumstances (i.e. 100% screen brightness the whole time). so not sure how others are using their phone...
in any case, i cant do more than show u proof via screenshots. if you dont believe me, thats fine, not forcing anyone to do anything here. just providing info
should be possible by importing the preferences via settings i uploaded in Hibernator Pro. just double check the exception and hibernation lists afterwards, since i probably have different user apps installed than you. system apps should be almost identical though.
I had been using Greenify for years now, mostly on rooted phones. Since im not rooted on the 20x i used it in non-rooted mode. i wasnt aware of hibernator pro until just recently, so i just gave it a try and it works like a charm!
jbmc83 said:
yes i have EMUI 11 installed. never said they "doubled" SOT. as mentioned before, on EMUI 10.1 i was at roughly 12-14h SOT, now its about 2-4h more depending on usage. thats not double
tbh, i never fell down to 9-11h SOT unless in crazy circumstances (i.e. 100% screen brightness the whole time). so not sure how others are using their phone...
in any case, i cant do more than show u proof via screenshots. if you dont believe me, thats fine, not forcing anyone to do anything here. just providing info
should be possible by importing the preferences via settings i uploaded in Hibernator Pro. just double check the exception and hibernation lists afterwards, since i probably have different user apps installed than you. system apps should be almost identical though.
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Ok I'm confused again by your statement. You cannot get 12 - 14h SOT when everyone gets an average of 8 - 10h SOT. Your claim of 17h SOT is roughly double what everyone gets. So in essence you did say "doubling."
Then you outlandishly claim that android 11 isnt available for the mate series which is NOT true. Why do you say that when websites say it will be available for the 20x? Wish you would explain this with proof.
Its not that we dont want to believe you its that we cant believe you because your claims clearly fall far outside the norm. Post as many pics as you want as proof but those are not impossible to alter.